quote:Posted by: Purl Gurl In reply to: None Date:5/26/2005 11:03:33 AM Post #of 632
Successful Demand For Settlement - Correct NASD Phone
I talked with a specialist at Etrade this morning, twice, once by my call and a nice return call from Kevin who is a specialist. Note, Kevin is not customer service, he is a specialist.
Kevin successfully placed a demand for settlement for my account.
I also explained to Kevin with market makers at brokers actively trading GVRP, presumably for profit, this does create an appearance brokers are increasing corporate profits by trading while denying customers an ability to trade. Otherwords, brokers are cornering the market. He did not know if this is unlawful.
What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
Some are calling Jennifer Coragela at NASD. She is nice and willing to offer all she knows, which is not much. Jennifer provided a telephone for the "correct" NASD department to call to voice your concerns about GVRP stock.
1 800 925 8156 which is NASD regulations department.
Again, Jennifer is very nice but she simply has no information from higher up the chain of command. Her department is not the correct one for phone calls.
I will urge you to call your broker and insist a demand for settlement be placed. I was successful in doing this, perhaps you will be as well.
I also urge you to call NASD regulations and voice your concerns.
Please, do not call Jennifer; she is not the right person.
In keeping with my past postings, I will again urge readers to make contact by phone and email to express your concerns. Traders must apply constant pressure to motivate the "system" to resolve issues promptly.
Some have ridiculed me for urging others to take actions. That is their right. However, I will not allow ridicule by others to stand in my way, to prevent me from doing all I can to turn a profit. My only interest is making money. I have no interest in becoming a mindless minion obeying what the popular people on message boards dictate.
Take action or stay out of my way.
Please join me in applying pressure. If you do nothing, you can expect nothing to be done.
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Oh, I think this could turn into a scandal.....AmTrade will be the one getting the bad press. If you look again at that article, from last night, the focus was on Amtrade, I don't think other brokers were even mentioned if I remember correctly.
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quote:Originally posted by cruz: my pending request to withdrawal funds still stands at this moment. if i get the $$$$, i am not paying it back.
Why would you need to pay it back? It's your money. You made a trade and made alot of money. When you make a trade and lose your @$$, you lose and they sure do take it out of your account quickly. They need to get on the ball here, regulators, whoever. This is BS. Due bills are now over due. I was owed my post split shares by midnight LAST NIGHT. I want them.
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If they reverse the split then they will buy back all the shares for what we paid for them? I bought at 1.55 last week and it is only PPS of .0001 this week because of the screwup.
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Cruz my withrawal went though this morning at 7:30 and at 11:30 it was cancelled
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quote:Originally posted by Raptorsrule: Just got off the phone with an Ameritrade broker. I told him i wanted to place a demand for settlement on my account per SEC rules. He said ahh yes...I've heard of this stock plenty this week. He asked me to hold so he could check with the higher ups. He came back and confirmed to me that the SEC was indeed investigating this and until they got word back from them they could not do anyhting. I said so even though the rules state I can place the demand you won't do it....He said the SEC has advised them to take no action of any kind regarding this stock until they get back with them.
The hunt is on...and IMHO they can't change the rules now to cover some poor schmuck co. who screwed up or there will truly be chaos.
This $hit is good!...LOL
Matter of time now IMHO folks...we are gonna make BANK!
Bump.
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quote:Posted by: Purl Gurl In reply to: Luckyd0g who wrote msg# 605 Date: 5/26/2005 11:40:33 AM Post #
RE: I bought last week, by Lucky Dog
There is a joke about a three legged dog named Lucky,
Lucky Dog asks,
"So If I bought last week 5/19...."
Yes, you are entitled to forward split shares. The "deadline" for buying was before or on Friday, May 20, 2005, last Friday.
Bill Due date was yesterday, May 25, 2005, Wednesday.
Your forward split shares are now officially overdue. Per SEC regulations, you are entitled to place a demand for settlement, sometimes called a "demand buyin" which places you on record as having "demanded" all brokers involved in your transaction are to settle, otherwords provide you with your forward split shares.
A company, GLUV, releasing news to not trade shares, a company making a mistake, does not preempt SEC rules. Companies, brokers, Wall Street in general, cannot elect to follow or not follow SEC rules at whim and wish. They rarely follow rules, but that does not nullify rules.
Regulations require settlement within three days for all transactions, which includes providing shares and providing funds, both for either buy or sell. Note, those are three business days, not calendar days.
One or more brokers are currently in violation of SEC rules with their not having provided your forward split shares. I urge you to contact your broker and insist a demand for settlement be placed for your account.
Doing so is your right and in keeping with SEC regulations.
Do so, or resign to allowing Wall Street to screw you.
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They all wait until Thursday before a 3 day weekend to get the ball rolling on this. This could be a loooonnnngggg weekend folks.
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This is starting to click....Why shouldn't Ameritrade allow us to selll. especially when NITE is standing there with open arms to scoop them up. Ameritrade is trying to cover by buying the shares from their own clients.....MUHHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....
well here's what i say to that. PLBBBBBBBBB! (sticks tongue out!)
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i think i am going to reset my pending withdrawal to come out tomorrow. today would be the third day settlement. tomorrow should be fine - legally.
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AMTD stock up .22.............hmmm, they don't need any bad press, I am sure they are wanting to clear this thing up as soon as possible.
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quote:Originally posted by cruz: i think i am going to reset my pending withdrawal to come out tomorrow. today would be the third day settlement. tomorrow should be fine - legally.
You still won't get it. AMTD is freezing all funds from trades of GVRP until it's resolved by the regulators.
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They all wait until Thursday before a 3 day weekend to get the ball rolling on this. This could be a loooonnnngggg weekend folks.
Trader: But at least maybe we can have 3 days of peace and quiet....maybe even get a little sleep. LOL
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just talked to scotstrae broker tried to place demand for settelment he said never heared of it so hes going to contact their legal dept. he also said that dtc has it under investagation so do nothing till they clear the shares
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OK, now at least we know the game is on. Took 4 trading days for everyone to get their head out of their @$$ and start working on this. This could now take a long time to resolve. We will all probably just end up with whatever we put in this stock in the first place, in my case its $530. Or maybe even get nothing.
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quote:Originally posted by JHenry: That's one thing that has been on my mind, Scottrade account shows .0002 right now with a market value of .03 with my 150 shares. How can they split the price and not the shares? Who is the one that controls the price of the stock. If the shares have not been approved or released from the DTC how can they split the price. The system just seems to be really screwed up. I can't understand the logic. It would seem like they would have to both at the same time and if there is a problem then trading should be halted until both can be done at the same time. I just don't understand this - they do one but not the other. It drives me crazy when I think about it.
exactly.. the price refelects the split screwup. So if they reverse the split they can not take back the shares bought this week after the split. The PPS should go back to where it was (6.50) and the shares bought this week could be gold.....
ok, need help here, my first reaction is the opposite. If you buy 3mm for $300, then wash back to Friday, you've got 1 share = $6.50 for a loss of 300 - 6.50 = 293.50 no?
Trader: Then why are they continuing to let it trade at all? It should have been halted wouldn't you say?
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Should have been, but they probably blew it off until now. Now they are all in deeper water. The govt works slowly until it realizes that it's something important. Probably took them 4 days to understand that this really is MAJOR.
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quote:Originally posted by rrttd: just talked to scotstrae broker tried to place demand for settelment he said never heared of it so hes going to contact their legal dept. he also said that dtc has it under investagation so do nothing till they clear the shares
this sounds a lot like what several people have been suggesting.....
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quote:Originally posted by Trader88: Should have been, but they probably blew it off until now. Now they are all in deeper water. The govt works slowly until it realizes that it's something important. Probably took them 4 days to understand that this really is MAJOR.
And it probably will take them 4 months to resolve it, or 4 years, lol.
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Posted by: chisox pat In reply to: coinstarz who wrote msg# 54788 Date:5/26/2005 12:16:38 PM Post #of 54880
Latest, and once again different story from Atrade.
They did not receive the shares from the DTC, but issued them assuming they would. Told me if the split was rescinded I may hold a short position (I told them to review NASD inadvertant short regs). Also confirmed that DTC and SEC are involved at this point. This was from the reorg dept.
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I've been wondering about that: seems like their language in those first messages never actually said we HAVE the shares, it was more like "delivered per agreement with DTC"...slight hair-splitting, but different...
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broker just called back said legal has no such thing as a demand settelment and they wont credit accounts do to the fact dtc has not given them out so their protecting their clients by doing it this way he said i could put in a sell of the shares i have at a big loss i dont have stupid printed across my forhead
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Is it just me or are trades starting to gothrough again Im trying to remember how many shares traded today?? just peaking in at work. Im addicted to gvrp 86 hours and still going
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quote:Posted by: SpillWay In reply to: None Date:5/26/2005 12:57:11 PM Post #of 54884
I'm not holding any shares of this stock, but it seems to me that eventually the holders of the forward-split shares will have to have their shares delivered and cleared for selling and actually having the proceeds of that sell to use as they wish, or everyone involved has acted in a manner that has brought discredit to the NASDAQ.
Ameritrade, DTCC, and everyone else can dance around this and investigate and try to figure out what to do, but eventually that's what has got to happen or the NASDAQ will start looking like Ken Lay.
It's done. The card has been layed and played. Sorry they screwed up on the forward split ex-dates, but it's a done deal and now someone has got to cover the shares awarded in the dividend.
But can you just imagine the behind-the-scenes scrambling going on right now? Good grief, I'll bet there are some people at NASD that stayed there all night.
quote:Posted by: SpillWay In reply to: None Date:5/26/2005 1:02:05 PM Post #of 54884
One more thought. I'm sure Ameritrade and everyone else involved is wanting to make DARN SURE that the actions they eventually take are not something that will eventually come back and bite them in the arse.
They're saying, "Here's what we'er faced with, what is the proper, legal, and correct thing to do?"
And a bunch of suits are shrugging their shoulders and saying, "I don't know yet, but don't give away the farm until we figure it out."
Just give them the dividend shares, let them sell them, and proceed to the next problem, eh?
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yes the double/triple will help the churn...
if they are gonna buy back....that's how i expected they would make this go away, it's just gonna take longer..... i think i posted that strategy last saturday or sunday
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If it all started because someone some how made a bad investment last week I do not see how they can stop it. They do not step in when I make a bad investment.
The trouble started because someone put shares into the market last week. Not because amtrade got the F/S shares on Friday night.
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rapt I think it would double their money, but I think everyone knows about it and therefore their plan is not working too much. besides who wants to buy at 0.0002 if they cant sell unless someone just looks at the price and jumps in without DD, thinking they will double up easy in future. Very hard
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