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Cash, the mere fact that you think one does it better than the other shows clearly that you still think they exist.

There is no democrat and there is no republican. Fox news is EXACTLY the same as cnn, msnbc, cnbc, etc...

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Actually FOX News is NOT...EXACTLY the same as MSNBC. You have two different ideologies being pushed on these networks.


What you need to know is that it doesnt matter at the very tip top. They are all the same and one. Its like a hydra. However, they are different as a culture and are run as such.

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Trump: Undocumented immigrants 'have to go'
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Trump talks to the media after arriving by helicopter to the Iowa State Fair. (Photo: Charlie Riedel/AP)


Donald Trump says he would send in U.S. ground troops to fight Islamic State militants, “police” the Iran nuclear agreement, ask potential Supreme Court nominees their thoughts on abortion, rescind President Barack Obama’s DREAM Act and deport all undocumented immigrants if he were elected president.


“The executive order gets rescinded,” Trump said in a wide-ranging interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet The Press” on Sunday. “We’re going to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

On the subject of IS, the Republican frontrunner said he would combat the terror group by taking away their oil — and use profits from the sale of that oil to help wounded U.S. soldiers.

Trump trashed the Iran nuclear deal — calling Secretary of State John Kerry “incompetent” for negotiating an agreement that’s “going to lead to nuclear holocaust” — but said he would not rip it up on the first day of his theoretical administration.

“I will police that deal,” the real estate mogul said. “You know, I’ve taken over some bad contracts. I buy contracts where people screwed up and they have bad contracts. But I’m really good at looking at a contract and finding things within a contract that even if they’re bad. I would police that contract so tough that they don’t have a chance. As bad as the contract is, I will be so tough on that contract.”

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Donald Trump Just Released An Actual Policy Plan

by Emily Atkin Aug 16, 2015 2:51

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures during a campaign stop at Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.H., Friday, Aug. 14, 2015.


“This is not a reality show,” billionaire Donald Trump said of his presidential candidacy on Sunday. “This is the real deal.”

He’s apparently not kidding. Within minutes of his comments on Meet the Press, Trump released a comprehensive policy plan for immigration reform — something many other Republican candidates have yet to do.

In it, Trump lays out what he plans to do about both border security and the 12 million undocumented immigrants who already live in the United States. Most notably, the plan promises widespread deportation, including the “mandatory return of all criminal aliens,” or undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes.

“We’re going to keep the families together, but they have to go,” he said on Meet the Press. Neither in his interview nor in the plan, however, did Trump say how this would be accomplished.

Trump’s plan said that he would end what’s known as birthright citizenship, which guarantees citizenship to almost all people born within U.S. borders, regardless of the legal status of their parents. That right is guaranteed under the 14th Amendment. A number of other Republican candidates have also expressed support for this idea, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Lindsey Graham.

As for border security, Trump doubled down on his pledge to have Mexico build and pay for an enormous wall across the border. Under the Trump administration, the U.S. would impose various penalties on the Mexican government and its officials until it agreed to build and pay for the wall.

“Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards — of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options].”

Under Trump’s plan, businesses would be required to hire “American workers first”; monetary penalties would be increased for people who overstay their visas; and the J-1 visa jobs program, which allows kids from other countries to participate in things like summer exchange programs, would be terminated. Trump’s plan also calls for tripling the number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, which are in charge of enforcing immigration laws.

The plan may be difficult to implement. Many of the initiatives, such as tripling the number of ICE officers, would require huge increases in federal funding — increases that would most likely have to be approved by Congress.

Interestingly, the most frequent source Trump cites to back up the ideas in his plan is the right-wing news site Breitbart News. At least six of the conservative site’s articles are linked to in Trump’s plan, far more than any other source. Trump has done numerous exclusive interviews with the site, which on Sunday reported that his immigration plan would “get Americans back to work.”

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Ray, I think that sounds like a fair proposal for immigration reform. Do you think so?

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Cash, this is my opinion so far. I agree that something has to be done and has to be done soon. I have never been a wall person. However it may work I just have to run it through my mind first. I can see Trumps plan it is a wall that is part of a massive plan that is using economic pressure and trade also. I have always said that prosecuting employers of illegals is the way to go but now the situation has gotten two big and out of hand for that to be effective by itself. I do know that if anybody can do the job and not be afraid of who he offends Trump would be the man.


One more thing the figure of 12 million illegals in this country is an old figure. The figure that is more closer to reality is 24 million .

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Trump is citing 42 million as the current figure. No idea if that's right but I wouldn't doubt it.

I've read his proposed plan and I can't imagine anything better.

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The President nor congress can just arbitrarily change the 14th. it will require an amendment to teh Constitution. The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.

I for one don't want to see a Constitutional Convention because of the way they will trade our CURRENT freedoms around. You can bet that the second will be on the table and maybe even parts of the Fourth (illegal search and seizures) because so many practices being used today violate the spirit of the 4th, even if the SCOTUS "finds" them acceptable... Some of them have yet to be fully tested.The Constituion provides the Feds absolutely no control over drugs or food, yet they chave taken control of them. You can bet a convention would try to address that too...

A convention should make everyon who loves freedom pretty nervous.

The 14th was needed when it was written because slaves had no cosntitutionally granted rights and they were in no-mans-land leglly. The 14th cut thru that mess, but it is outdated today IMO. Primarily because travel is so much easier today then it was 150 years ago... Chinese people nd other foreigners come here just to have thei babies so they can take US citizneship if they wish to in the future. It's loophole that needs to be closed, but like i said, not thru a Convention....

The fact is that illegal immigrants are jumping the line. We should stop accepting applications from the illegals inside this country. Period. It only fair to teh people who are actually trying to come here legally and legitimately, we do want those people.


The USA allows the most legal immigration of all countries in the world. We are a welcoming nation.

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wright you are Glass once you start to change or eliminate amendments to our constitution , I have a feeling that there would be no limit to what could happen to our document. Its sort of funny but Canada has the same law that we do so I have heard.

I do know this , That pregnant women fro Mexico make sure they land here in this country just before they give birth so they can have a baby born on U.S. soil this is the anchor that they talk about. I personally know state doctors that run clinics for the poor and some of these women from Mexico are in such bad shape it takes eighty to ninety thousand dollars worth of medical attention to give birth to there baby.. Thank you American tax payer. And this is just the beginning.

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This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

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quote:
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This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.

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the good old days never weren't so good.

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quote:
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Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.

Well sure you could put it that way, and you could also look at ideas in the past that didnt work. I guess since women couldnt vote, but now can...that means a progressive $15 wage for someone starting out at McDonalds makes perfect sense then! Maybe bump the min to $9-10 in the next year, but 15?
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By Sarah N. Lynch


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump blasted hedge fund managers on Sunday as mere "paper pushers" who he said were "getting away with murder" by not paying their fair share of taxes.

In a telephone interview on CBS's "Face the Nation," Trump vowed to reform the tax laws if elected and said the current system was harming middle class Americans who currently faced higher tax rates than traders on Wall Street.

"The hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky," Trump said.

"They are energetic. They are very smart. But a lot of them - they are paper-pushers. They make a fortune. They pay no tax. It's ridiculous, ok?"

Trump's comments were referring to the so-called "carried interest loophole" - a provision in the tax code which allows private equity and hedge fund managers pay taxes at the capital gains rate instead of the ordinary income rate.

Many fund managers are in the top income bracket, but the capital gains tax bracket is only 20 percent.

While these individuals are also required to pay an additional 3.8 percent surtax on their net investment income, this total rate is still far lower than the 39.6 percent rate that top wage earners must pay on their ordinary income.

"Some of them are friends of mine. Some of them, I couldn't care less about," Trump said.

"It is the wrong thing. These guys are getting away with murder. I want to lower the rates for the middle class."

Trump did not offer any specific detail on how he would like to reform the tax code, but he is not the only presidential candidate to take aim at the "carried interest" loophole.

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has also previously called for reforms, saying it was wrong that hedge fund managers "pay lower taxes than nurses" or truck drivers. [ID: nL2N0XB31K]

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, another Democratic presidential candidate whose progressive agenda has been drawing large crowds of supporters, has also been a vocal critic of the tax loophole.

Among Republicans, Trump has continued to dominate the field of presidential candidates.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll on Friday showed Trump with 32 percent of the support of Republicans, followed by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush with 16 percent, and Ben Carson with 8 percent.

(Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Gareth Jones)

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WOW, Trump is being honest, what will the rest of the political machine do? LOL


i just messaged trumps campaign to creat an app to help on social media, let's see if they go with it?

" I was thinking about campaign ideas on social media and it occurred to me that you should create an app that allows people to put their own face over yours in a "combover" picture. Politically it is usually expedient to go straight at jokes like that instead of discouraging it. It makes you more real."

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quote:
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Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.

Well sure you could put it that way, and you could also look at ideas in the past that didnt work. I guess since women couldnt vote, but now can...that means a progressive $15 wage for someone starting out at McDonalds makes perfect sense then! Maybe bump the min to $9-10 in the next year, but 15?
tell me caschcow, do you eat at Mcdonalds enough to actualy care what they get paid? cuz i don't. I shop where i want to so can you WTF do you really care about how much a burger flipper gets paid and why?

When i have hamburgers now? I use lamb and beef, it's awesome and a bigmac doesn't look like food to me any more...

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I dont eat that junk anymore either. A home made patty enriched with flavoring spices is hands down far better than any big mac.

My burgers usually have a little heat in them. Toasted buns, grilled onions, home made sweet potato fries, etc.

Food that comes through your car window is not really food in my opinion. Taco Bell is another one I am not into. Id probably get sick right now if I went to Burger King right now and chomped down a whopper with soggy fries and a sugary soda...blah.


As for why I care what a burger flipper gets paid...I dont a whole lot. Its all good anyway as these people will end up shooting themselves in the foot. Whats next anyway after $15 an hour? A housing allowance too?


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Here's the deal cashcow, the Government has been giving billions, no hundreds of billions to the banks and the banks have been buying stock and loaning it out for stuff. The EXACT same end result (and maybe even better) would have happened if the govt gave the money to poor people, or just everybody..

you see cashcow, poor people are poor cuz they don't manage money well... so it ssoon ends up in the hands of people who do manage it well and provide whatever other people want for decent prices...

trickle up or trickle down... it don't matter. I would be fine if we had only precious metals for money then inflation would be non-existent, but the govt can't borrow against precious metals and pay it back with cheaper money cuz infaltion wouldn't happen with precious metals...

and so it goes.... Capitalism sux (cuz of inflation mostly) but its still the best thing we got...

minimum wages are the same thing- i don;t like them, but without them, people end up working AND poor... we end up paying their bills one way or another no matter what cuz we ain't going to holocaust them. We pay the're medical, we pay their rent we pay for food stamps... yes for working people it's true.. most welfare peopel work. they have to pay daycare too and that ain't cheap we subsidise that too...

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quote:
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Here's the deal cashcow, the Government has been giving billions, no hundreds of billions to the banks and the banks have been buying stock and loaning it out for stuff. The EXACT same end result (and maybe even better) would have happened if the govt gave the money to poor people, or just everybody..

you see cashcow, poor people are poor cuz they don't manage money well... so it ssoon ends up in the hands of people who do manage it well and provide whatever other people want for decent prices...

trickle up or trickle down... it don't matter. I would be fine if we had only precious metals for money then inflation would be non-existent, but the govt can't borrow against precious metals and pay it back with cheaper money cuz infaltion wouldn't happen with precious metals...

and so it goes.... Capitalism sux (cuz of inflation mostly) but its still the best thing we got...

minimum wages are the same thing- i don;t like them, but without them, people end up working AND poor... we end up paying their bills one way or another no matter what cuz we ain't going to holocaust them. We pay the're medical, we pay their rent we pay for food stamps... yes for working people it's true.. most welfare peopel work. they have to pay daycare too and that ain't cheap we subsidise that too...

And I would agree with that.
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Originally posted By CashCowMoo:

I dont eat that junk anymore either. A home made patty enriched with flavoring spices is hands down far better than any big mac.

My burgers usually have a little heat in them. Toasted buns, grilled onions, home made sweet potato fries, etc.

Food that comes through your car window is not really food in my opinion. Taco Bell is another one I am not into. Id probably get sick right now if I went to Burger King right now and chomped down a whopper with soggy fries and a sugary soda...blah.


As for why I care what a burger flipper gets paid...I dont a whole lot. Its all good anyway as these people will end up shooting themselves in the foot. Whats next anyway after $15 an hour? A housing allowance too?
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You have to eat there once in awhile, everyone's stomach needs this, most kids love there food.

Nothing like a hamburger patty that shatters when it hits the ground, an american tradition, actually a world wide one now days.

I do care about what is happening as far as the minium wage. We are forcing the small guy out, if they have many employees and this will force the bigger guy to automate more.

These types of jobs were not created to make a living and support families, there isn't enough profit margin to do so.

To me they were created to make some money for the business and give young people the chance to work and learn how to work.

It used to be that you had to know a little math to work at these places, now that is not even a requirement.

As we keep forcing more and more small businesses out of business, because of all the costs they have to absorb, we have more people sitting at home figuring ways to spend their time, not a good thing.

Where do a young people get job experience these days? It is becoming much harder as we keep forcing more of these types of businesses out with high costs and so many regulations.


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Now lets talk about the Trumpster. All he does is talk through both ends of his rear end!

It is sad that our nation has to turn to someone like him because they are so frustrated about all the issues hurting this nation.

Doesn't mean he will do anything about them, just wants the limelight puting down everything and everybody.

Hopefully our young people understand this is not proper behavior, because if they follow his lead, they will find out the hard way.

He just doesn't know when to shut his mouth, it's horrible what we have to chose from for our president!

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quote:
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Now lets talk about the Trumpster. All he does is talk through both ends of his rear end!

It is sad that our nation has to turn to someone like him because they are so frustrated about all the issues hurting this nation.

Doesn't mean he will do anything about them, just wants the limelight puting down everything and everybody.

Hopefully our young people understand this is not proper behavior, because if they follow his lead, they will find out the hard way.

He just doesn't know when to shut his mouth, it's horrible what we have to chose from for our president!

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Everyone swore hillary was in the bag for 2016 and everyone a while back said trump would not be around long. Well, the tables have flipped. Its weird, but fun to watch.

Trump is funny though. I like his jokes about people who go to the Jeb Bush rallies...they sleep at them. Jeb Bush is very boring and hard to listen to sometimes.

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Donald Trump, a billionaire you can trust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_8WURBGnM

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really a classy post cash the but plugs with trumps picture on them are the work of a 12year old. I am not a republican and I would not post anything like that.
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That was at the end for a very short minute. You are such a crying baby sometimes ray.

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The GOP frontrunner is A-OK if his tax policy increases his own tax bill.

A day after a confrontation with Univision reporter Jorge Ramos at a press conference in Dubuque, Iowa, GOP-frontrunner Donald Trump turned his attention to a decidedly less sensational topic: tax code.

In an interview with Bloomberg on Wednesday, Trump said he would change and simplify the tax code. He took particular aim at hedge fund profits and said he would be fine if his policy increased his own tax obligation.

Bloomberg reporter John Heilemann asked Trump specifically about carried interest—tax fund managers’ cut of investment profits that’s currently taxed as capital gain, with a 20% rate, versus ordinary income, the top bracket of which is taxed at nearly 40%. “So you would want to tax carried interest in the same way that ordinary income is taxed?” Heilemann said.





“I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think it’s outrageous,” Trump said. “I want to lower taxes for the middle class.”

Such a change would not just affect hedge fund folks, but would also impact people in limited real estate partnerships, which is particularly notable because Trump holds a stake in at least ten real estate limited partnerships.

Trump said he’s “ready” and “willing” to raise taxes on himself. “I’m ok with it.”

(Trump’s answer comes two days after his campaign dodged a similar question from Fortune.)

“You see my statements, I do very well,” Trump told Bloomberg. “I don’t mind paying some taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country

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Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:

Donald Trump, a billionaire you can trust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_8WURBGnM

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My point from and earlier post was demonstrated here with Trump's remark about fat people and Rosey.

I don't like her but his remark is what we keep trying to tell our young people not to allow, bullying.

If someone/someones in school use this to continually put another kid down, the parent of that kid would be pissed.

This is the possible President of the US saying this is okay and the crowd thinks it's funny...sad

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Donald Trump says he's going to make a decision once and for all about whether he'll mount a third party bid if he loses the Republican nomination for president.

Trump told reporters following a speech in Nashville Saturday that he's going to make a decision "very soon."

He says he thinks the decision will make a lot of people "very happy."

Trump has so far refused to pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee. He says it gives him leverage.

But his hands are largely tied: He'll have to sign a pledge to do so if he wants to appear on the ballot in South Carolina and potentially several other states.

Trump was courting tea party voters at a conference hosted by the National Federation of Republican Assemblies

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Kristol is the editor of the Weekly Standard, which published an article on July 18 entitled “Trump GOP Candidacy Blows Up.” At the time the article was published, Trump was tied for the lead in the national polls with Jeb Bush. He currently leads by 13 points.

The assumption in Kristol’s tweet is that Republican voters want cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Most Republican politicans act this way. Major cuts to Medicare and Social Security have been included in Republican budgets, drafted by Paul Ryan. The “serious” Republican candidates — Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Marco Rubio — all support cuts. It is also a policy favored Republican donors.

But it is not a policy supported by Republican voters.

A Pew poll conducted in 2013 found that just 21% of Republicans favored cuts in Medicare. A higher percentage (24%) favored an increase in Medicare spending. The findings for Social Security were even more dramatic. Just 17% of Republicans favored Social Security spending cuts while 35% favored an increase.

Even among very conservative voters, support for entitlement spending is high. A 2014 Pew poll found that among “consistently conservative” Americans, 59% wanted to maintain current Social Security benefits. Only 38% favored reductions.

Support for any kind of reduction in Social Security benefit is not much higher among very conservative people (38%) than liberals (32%), according to the Pew poll.

Trump clearly understands that. Bill Kristol and Republican elites do not.

Part of Trump’s appeal comes from showmanship, bombast and a willingness to appeal to the darker elements of the Republican electorate. But Trump also benefits from actually supporting policies favored by rank-and-file Republican voters.

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Donald Trump Forms Presidential Exploratory Committee Because He's the "Only One" Who Can "Make America Great"
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It looks like Donald Trump is seriously considering taking political office. The business mogul announced that he is officially forming a presidential exploratory committee to determine whether or not he should run for president. That's right, you could be potentially referring to the Celebrity Apprentice boss as President Trump. His decision, he says, stems from his belief that the United States of America are in terrible shape. "I have a great love for our country, but it is a country that is in serious trouble. We have lost the respect of the entire world. Americans deserve better than what they get from their politicians --- who are all talk and no action!" he said in a press release

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Photos show Donald Trump in military uniform, with athletic teams before dodging the Vietnam draft with ‘bull---t’ injury


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Trump received four college draft deferments over a four-year span during the Vietnam War from 1964 through 1968.
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After earning medals during his time at the prestigous military academy, Trump (c.) got a medical deferment after college for a bone spur in his foot.
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Donald Trump — once a smiling teenage cadet at a military academy — dodged the Vietnam War with student deferments and a boo-boo on his foot, records show.

Trump, a gifted athlete and decorated cadet at New York Military Academy in upstate Cornwall in the 1960s, sidestepped the draft with four deferments and a medical disqualification for bone spurs in his foot.

One Trump expert said he believes the GOP candidate “skated.”

“I doubt it was a serious medical issue,” Trump biographer Wayne Barrett, author of “Trump: The Deals and the Downfall,” told the Daily News Monday.

TRUMP'S VILE SLAP AT MCCAIN INSULTS ALL THE VETERANS


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Donald Trump, shown here in 1964 with a woman, was a student at the New York Military Academy before getting four draft deferments.



“Up to that time, he was an active athlete. It was bulls--t,” Barrett told The News. “I never heard of any foot problem other than them being well-placed in his mouth,” the biographer said.

Barrett said Trump likely got special treatment as a young man with money and influential family connections.

“It appears he was actively looking for some justification to evade it,” Barrett said of the draft.

“There’s no question it fit a pattern of avoidance that was commonplace in his generation. You cut a corner, maybe got somebody to write a letter or interpret results of an Army physical in a way that was beneficial to you,” he said.

TRUMP SAYS HE DOES NOT OWE JOHN MCCAIN AN APOLOGY FOR SAYING 'HE'S NOT A WAR HERO'

Trump’s draft avoidance is back on the front lines after the bloviating billionaire dissed Arizona Sen. John McCain on Saturday, saying there was nothing heroic about the Navy pilot spending time in a North Vietnamese POW camp.

While McCain was nearly killed serving his country, Trump once got a medal as a cadet for being neat and orderly.

On Sunday, Trump said on ABC’s “This Week” that he’d opposed the Vietnam War — and declined to apologize to McCain.


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Trump's campaign defended his military time Monday, saying in a statement he had "a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet."

The deferment was supposed to be short-term, so Trump entered a draft and got the number 356 out of 365, the campaign said. His high number never got picked.

"Although he was not a fan of the Vietnam War, yet another disaster for our country, had his draft number been selected he would have proudly served and he is tremendously grateful to all those who did," the campaign said.

Trump topped the GOP field in a new Washington Post-ABC News national poll released Monday, grabbing 24% of likely Republican voters compared with 13% for Scott Walker and 12% for Jeb Bush.

In high school photos obtained by The News, Trump is seen with medals pinned to his uniform and posing as a star athlete on several teams, seemingly a hero in the making.

Ironically, the draft dodger performed so well in the military environment — with its early morning reveille, daily inspections, drills and taps — he was ranked third among his fellow cadets, a former classmate told The News.

“He was quite mature and driven,” classmate George Beuttell said Monday. “He was elected ladies’ man his senior year.”

Beuttell recalled playing on the football team with Trump and how the future real estate mogul had an elite air, even then.

“He didn’t mingle with the rest of the corps who were not as high ranked. He lived in a different set of barracks,” Beuttell told The News.

EDITORIAL: TRUMP'S COMMENTS ON MCCAIN'S MILITARY SERVICE PERFECTLY DISPLAY TRUE COLORS OF AN EGOMANIACAL BULLY

Another classmate said Trump was a physical powerhouse.

“He could have played on a farm team for a professional team, but he chose to go to business school instead,” Bruce Barberi, 68, said.

Despite his commanding high school career, Trump wasn’t maneuvering for real military service.


After graduating, he went on to receive draft deferments — in July 1964, January 1966, December 1966 and January 1968 — while studying at Fordham University and the University of Pennsylvania.

After leaving the University of Pennsylvania in 1968, he was quickly reclassified as 1-A, available for service in July 1968, and went for a physical that September.

He was “disqualified” at some point after the physical and got a medical deferment in October 1968, the records show.

Over the weekend, Trump said the medical problem involved bone spurs in his feet. Asked which foot had the problem, the candidate said: “Go look it up in the records. It’s in the record.”


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Trump (c.) was part of a handful of athletic teams during his time at the military school, including intramural basketball.



Unless Trump steps up to voluntarily provide the records, the world may never know for sure.

A spokesman for the Selective Service System told The News on Monday that the detailed medical records related to draft deferments have been destroyed.

“The information no longer exists,” Richard Flahavan told The News.

Flahavan said when the draft office was closing around 1976, millions of records, including test results and chest X-rays, were dumped. The archivist in charge decided to keep only classification histories and registration cards, he said.

“We have no way of knowing if his personal doctor was involved at all. If he claimed a pre-existing problem, he could have had his doctor give paperwork for the physical exam. But the fact is, the military doctor did disqualify him for service,” Flahavan said.

Trump, 69, ended up at the New York Military Academy at age 13 after his dad plucked him out of the private Kew-Forest School in Forest Hills, Queens, believing he needed “more discipline,” Barrett said.

Known as “D.T.” at his strict new school, Trump played varsity football, baseball and soccer and was on the intramural basketball team.

He was on the cadet council for two years, the honor roll for four years and won the Neatness and Order Medal in 1960 and 1961.


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Trump (l.), here with another member of the military school’s bowling team, was ‘disqualified’ after a physical in 1968, leading one Trump expert to believe he had ‘skated’ past the draft.



While at Fordham, he was “hardly a star student” and then switched to the University of Pennsylvania, where he took undergraduate classes at the Wharton School of Finance and “stayed far away from the tumult” of anti-war protesting, Barrett said.

He graduated in 1968, though he had no senior photo in the yearbook and was not listed as a member of any sports, the author said.

When he registered to vote for the first time in 1969, he joined the Republican Party.

It was ironic because “no one opposed to war would have registered as Republican,” Barrett said Monday.

Trump shocked supporters on Saturday when he took his shot at McCain.

“He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in his stunning statement in Iowa. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

McCain took the highroad Monday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

The former presidential candidate said he wanted “to put all that behind me” and refused to “look back in anger.”

“I’m not a hero,” the 78-year-old senator said, declining to demand an apology from Trump.

“But those who were my senior ranking officers ... those that inspired us to do things we otherwise wouldn’t be capable of doing, those are the people I think he owes an apology to,” he said.


Trump doubled down Monday on NBC’s “Today” show, again blaming the media and critics for misrepresenting his views.

He then attacked McCain — who serves as the chairman of the Armed Services Committee and is a member of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee — as a legislator.

“I do have a problem with what he’s doing on the border — he’s terrible,” Trump continued. “And I do have a problem with the fact, with the illegal immigration, is a disaster, and he’s doing a horrible job for the vets.”

Later, Trump appeared to be angling for a truce.

“I have respect for Sen. McCain,” Trump said on Fox News’ “O’Reilly Factor.” “I used to like him a lot. I supported him. I raised a lot of money for him in his campaign against President Obama, and certainly if there was a misunderstanding I would totally take that back.”

In Trump’s hometown, Mayor de Blasio added his name to the growing list of lawmakers condemning Trump’s remarks, calling them “unacceptable.”


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When asked which foot he had the injnury in which kept him from serving in the Vietnam War, Trump told reporters over the weekend ‘Go look it up in the records. It's in the record.’



Still, the city probably can’t yank Trump's contracts, the mayor said Monday.

“Unless there has been some breaking of a contract or something that gives us a legal opportunity to act, I'm not sure we have a specific course of action,” de Blasio said.

“But we’re certainly not looking to do any business with him going forward,” he told reporters.

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who considers both Trump and McCain friends, said he thought the controversy would blow over.

“I believe that what Donald said about him was wrong, but Donald says it was misinterpreted,” Giuliani said. “So I take Donald at his word, that it was misinterpreted.”

New York podiatrist Dr. Rock Positano said Monday that the real pain from bone spurs on a patient’s heel comes from irritation and inflammation in the adjacent tissue. It can be treated with over-the-counter pain medicine.

“If it’s in both feet and makes walking and standing difficult, there’s a good possibility it could prevent a person from being an effective soldier,” Positano said. “But most of us have had this. In a mild case, it’s not debilitating.”

Trump's vile slap at McCain insults all veterans .

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There is no doubt that Trumps past does not portray the Trump of the present. Why is it taking so long to come out is my only question. Maybe it will after he ruins about 5 more potential more republican hopefuls.
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I'm not sure what can come out about Trump's past? He's been in the public eye for quite a while without the luxury of being an ever-protected politician.

I know for absolute sure that both Clinton and Bush alike are desperate to find something.

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Why would Trump even bring up McCain's military career with his past?

Either he is jealous, not to bright as far as common sense, or just so arrogant he doesn't care.

I think its all three.

It's strange he would be that involved in a military academy then get out of the draft, it's funny what war does to people, playing it is fine.


What scares me the most about him if he were to become president, is what kind of big time mess will he create in the Middle East for us?

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Right, because Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Bammy have done a damn fine job of keeping it nice and peaceful over there...

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