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Posted by raybond on :
 
Another day, another Donald Trump doozie.

The presidential candidate, who’s soared to No. 1 among Republican presidential candidates in the latest Fox News poll, attacked opponent Rick Perry’s intelligence on Twitter Thursday.

“.@GovernorPerry just gave a pollster quote on me. He doesn’t understand what the word demagoguery means,” Trump tweeted.


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He followed up with a proposal: “.@GovernorPerry failed on the border. He should be forced to take an IQ test before being allowed to enter the GOP debate.”

Trump’s tirade against the former Texas governor came after Perry tweeted: .@realDonaldTrump-ism not conservatism but a toxic mix of demagoguery and nonsense.”

Trump also tweeted his ire at Senator John McCain, who was the Republican nominee for president in 2008.


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“The thousands of people that showed up for me in Phoenix were amazing Americans. @SenJohnMcCain called them “crazies” — must apologize!” he tweeted.

Trump then insulted McCain’s intelligence: “.@SenJohnMcCain should be defeated in the primaries. Graduated last in his class at Annapolis — dummy!”
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Not seeing what is wrong?

He calls the guy who couldn't remember what the EPA is in a debate, a moron.. Fair

He calls McCain a psycho.. Even fairer..

Tell me, Ray, what did Trump do wrong?
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Relentless, its because Trump is on the Republican ticket, thats all it ever is. He never really gets articulate with any of his views.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
nothing is wright or nothing is wrong it is just what trump did what do you think about what trump said. I find it very interesting and I hope trump holds his lead so he can be in the gop. debate.

What is the matter can't take it? I am very entertained by the whole mess. Maybe that little gutter snipe with the face of a 13 year old Rubio can run on the gop ticket. Just think if he wins we can have bring your Rubio to work day.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the media doesn't want people to know the real truth about illegal immigration. Note this article from over FIVE years ago published by Latina Magazine;

"Phoenix is now the "kidnapping capital" of the United States only affirms what many residents already believe.

Now, a new method of marking territory has crossed over into the United States. "Rape trees" are popping up in Southern Arizona and their significance is horrific. These "rape trees" are places where cartel members and coyotes rape female border crossers and hang their clothes, specifically undergarments, to mark their conquest."

http://www.npr.org/2014/03/23/293449153/the-rarely-told-stories-of-sexual-assaul t-against-female-migrants


sure Trump said it without proper qualifiers because this is happening in almost every human smuggling route, but when NPR covers it? It's PC, rights?

The Rarely Told Stories Of Sexual Assault Against Female Migrants
March 23, 2014 5:00 PM ET
Steve Inskeep 2010
Steve Inskeep
Twitter
Listen to the Story

All Things Considered
8:04

Arun Rath talks with Steve Inskeep about his road trip along the U.S.-Mexico border. Sexual assault has become more common for women who make the perilous trip across the desert into the U.S.

http://www.npr.org/2014/03/23/293449153/the-rarely-told-stories-of-sexual-assaul t-against-female-migrants

the story gets even worse when you go to Africans immigrating illeglay into Europe...

pick on Trump and his delviery of the truth all you want, but there's real serious problem here and Trump at least took the time to point out the reality of the situation.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By Relentless:

Not seeing what is wrong?

He calls the guy who couldn't remember what the EPA is in a debate, a moron.. Fair

He calls McCain a psycho.. Even fairer..

Tell me, Ray, what did Trump do wrong?
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That's the problem, not enough people see the problem with this!

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Posted by raybond on :
 
Iwish , all I did was post what MR. Trump said why are you trying to make it more than that? I think Mr. Trump has the right to say any thing he wants.

I think you are fishing for my motivation for this post. That is fine with me as long as you are not trying to paint it a different color. Anything that causes this much controversy in the news is worth following to me. As for Mr. MCcain I do feel for him like I felt for Kerry being dishonored. However this is an internal republican fight. I do agree with the Donald about Perry he is a retard And McCain I just don't like his politics.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
I am not sure what your talking about Raybond?

I saw what you posted, an article about Trump that's it.

But, if you don't see what's wrong about Trumps Crap then maybe you have become to use to it, like so many others.

Your right he is not much different than the other ones that run, to bad they don't run any more on their ability to do the job.

Then again maybe their ability to run their mouth is their only ability to do the job.

Seems like so many people are excepting the idea that putting down other people is okay, yet when it happens to their kids or themselves it not okay?

Here is Trumps latest one, this one should fry him:

"Trump ignited a firestorm of criticism on Saturday after he said at the Iowa Family Leadership Summit that McCain, a former Navy pilot who was held for more than five years in Vietnam after his plane was shot down in 1967, qualifies as a war hero only "because he was captured," and that he likes people who weren't captured


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Posted by glassman on :
 
To be honest? I think Trump is making fun of the whole country.
Do i think he'd make good president? nope. But the more people pay attention to what he's saying? The higher his count goes.sorta like rush limbugger and glen bek

I dunno the circumstance behind Mccain getting captured, but the qustion is more about what makes a war hero a war hero. Is it body count? Cuz that led to ear necklaces remember? marine recon and others had to prove they got their numbers right.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
After his now-famous comments deriding the war record of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) last weekend, Donald Trump was supposed to be toast.

NBC’s First Read asked if this was a “tipping point.”

“Trump GOP Candidacy Blows Up” blared a Weekly Standard headline. “DON VOYAGE: Trump is toast after insult,” proclaimed the front page of the New York Post. “Trump is toast,” the conservative magazine Commentary put it simply.

He’s “not running a real campaign,” according to Rick Wilson, and in fact, “the Donald Trump candidacy is almost over.” The Huffington Post famously recategorized Trump news into their entertainment section.

“Trump will continue to be loud and defiant,” ABC’s Rick Klein said, “but he will cease being relevant long before votes are cast.” Mitt Romney tweeted, “The difference between Sen. John McCain and Donald Trump: Trump shot himself down.”

“It’s still a great question how this Republican nomination race will sort out once this Trump nonsense ends,” wrote National Journal’s Charlie Cook. The establishment reaction to Trump’s McCain comments “will probably mark the moment when Trump’s candidacy went from boom to bust,” according to the New York Times.

Yet Trump continues to surge in the polls, with a CNN-ORC poll finding he continues to lead the field nationwide at 18 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 15 percent and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker at 10 percent. The rest of the field was in single digits. Beyond the 18 percent giving him their support, well over half of white evangelicals, conservatives, and tea party supporters want him to remain in the race. Trump has now led five out of the last five national polls.

One NBC News-Marist poll found that Trump led the GOP field in New Hampshire with 21 percent support — Bush followed with 14 percent and Walker at 12 percent. The other 14 candidates were in the single digits.

Another poll in Iowa showed Trump almost tied with Walker’s lead position there — 17 percent for Trump and 19 for Walker. Bush trailed at 12 percent and the rest of the field in single digits. The Iowa poll was conducted before and after Trump’s comments about McCain — in New Hampshire his support and favorability rating dropped after the comments while in Iowa they actually increased.

This success has impact beyond poll numbers, as it causes other GOP candidates, some of whom have governed states or passed significant legislation, to miss the first primary debate.

A survey of early-state GOP “insiders” conducted by Politico last week found that three-quarters of respondents thought Trump had peaked.

Some candidates have lashed out at Trump, while others have taken a “well if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” approach. Former Gov. Mike Huckabee recently said Trump was “fascinating” and “sort of unfiltered in a way that’s refreshing.” In fact, Huckabee said, perhaps Huckabee was Trump before Trump was Trump. “I’ll be honest with you, a lot of the things that he’s saying, those are things that, in many ways, I’ve been saying those for eight years.”

For his part, Trump explains his surge as being larger than himself.

“This is more than me,” he said on CNN. “This is a movement going on. People are tired of these incompetent politicians in Washington who can’t get anything done.”

The real conclusion to be drawn from the last week? Pundits should pause prior to making pronouncements, and would do better to let events play out as they may. Political outcomes are unpredictable.
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Here are some facts..

McCain is a tool
Clinton is a tool
Perry...a tool
Romney is a tool
Rubio...tool
Obama is a tool
and...every other candidate either REP or DEM are TOOLS!

The "Donald" is also a tool, but what sets him apart from the rest of the above mentioned morons, s that Trump isn't bought and paid for,and because of that,he has the ability to speak the truth...
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Oh and one more fact...

ANYONE who believes that ANY of the establishment's candidates(Republican or Democratic)are going to "look out for you"
are TOOLS!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
maybe it would be safe to say that Trump is the sharpest tool in the drawer right now.

still my favorite tool - Schism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhjG47gtMCo
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buckstalker:
Here are some facts..

McCain is a tool
Clinton is a tool
Perry...a tool
Romney is a tool
Rubio...tool
Obama is a tool
and...every other candidate either REP or DEM are TOOLS!

The "Donald" is also a tool, but what sets him apart from the rest of the above mentioned morons, s that Trump isn't bought and paid for,and because of that,he has the ability to speak the truth...

you left out Bernie Sanders. I kinda like him but today i saw a meme that claims he wants to ban all guns "not for hunting" and that means he hasn't really understood the 2nd at all... he seems pretty decent on most other stuff (IMO)
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally posted By Glassman:

To be honest? I think Trump is making fun of the whole country.
Do i think he'd make good president? nope. But the more people pay attention to what he's saying? The higher his count goes.sorta like rush limbugger and glen bek

I dunno the circumstance behind Mccain getting captured, but the qustion is more about what makes a war hero a war hero. Is it body count? Cuz that led to ear necklaces remember? marine recon and others had to prove they got their numbers right.
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I would agree, i am not sure what would classify a war hero in this case, but many consider him that, which is fine.

Anyone that can survive what he went through has my respect and to do so and still be living at his age after that, is amazing.

No one has any clue what he and others had to do to survive that long of an ordeal, only those captured know for sure, we the public will never know.

I am sure he has had some tuff nights through his entire life after the Hanoi Hilton and i am sure he doesn't lose much sleep over Trump

Trump was doing his best to disrespect him for serving and surviving a horrible capture.

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Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted by Buckstalker:

Here are some facts..

McCain is a tool
Clinton is a tool
Perry...a tool
Romney is a tool
Rubio...tool
Obama is a tool
and...every other candidate either REP or DEM are TOOLS!

The "Donald" is also a tool, but what sets him apart from the rest of the above mentioned morons, s that Trump isn't bought and paid for,and because of that,he has the ability to speak the truth
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I was rather surprised by your answer after reading Trumps crap.

Ability to speak the truth?

I thought for sure you would have seen through Trump.

I guess if you like him you have your presidental choice, but i don't think he will make it that far, he has no clue when to shut his mouth or what comes out of it.

Not that there are any great choices.

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Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Originally Posted by Buckstalker:

Here are some facts..

McCain is a tool
Clinton is a tool
Perry...a tool
Romney is a tool
Rubio...tool
Obama is a tool
and...every other candidate either REP or DEM are TOOLS!

The "Donald" is also a tool, but what sets him apart from the rest of the above mentioned morons, s that Trump isn't bought and paid for,and because of that,he has the ability to speak the truth
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I was rather surprised by your answer after reading Trumps crap.

Ability to speak the truth?

I thought for sure you would have seen through Trump.

I guess if you like him you have your presidental choice, but i don't think he will make it that far, he has no clue when to shut his mouth or what comes out of it.

Not that there are any great choices.

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Iwish...I never said I liked him nor did I say he was my "choice"...I merely stated that he isn't afraid to say what's on his mind because he isn't "owned" like the rest of the tools on the list.

I quit voting many moons ago because I figured out that presidential elections are a rigged game created by the establishment to lead you to believe that you have a choice (you do NOT by the way), and I refuse to participate in the LIE...
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by buckstalker:
Here are some facts..

McCain is a tool
Clinton is a tool
Perry...a tool
Romney is a tool
Rubio...tool
Obama is a tool
and...every other candidate either REP or DEM are TOOLS!

The "Donald" is also a tool, but what sets him apart from the rest of the above mentioned morons, s that Trump isn't bought and paid for,and because of that,he has the ability to speak the truth...

you left out Bernie Sanders. I kinda like him but today i saw a meme that claims he wants to ban all guns "not for hunting" and that means he hasn't really understood the 2nd at all... he seems pretty decent on most other stuff (IMO)
Sanders stance on a lot of issues are right in line with mine but if what you say about his stance on guns is true...well then he is a tool too
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i just saw a new meme today saying Sanders would overturn Citizens United...

i din't bother trying to 'splain that a SCOTUS decision cannot be "overturned' by a President or the Congress...

so i will wait 'n see what Bernie says from his own mouth..

i get to vote in one primary or the other in MS. Trump or Sanders? i dunno yet. have to wait 'n see who i am voting against as much as hwo i'm voting for... Jeb or Hillary? neither one
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
I wouldnt waste a minute of my life voting for either of the establishments picks... in fact until big money is taken out of politics, I wont participate in the scam
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Lol, any prez that tries to ban all guns except hunting rifles will start a civil war.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Election
Trump Says Female Moderator Who Confronted Him About Sexism Was On Her Period

by Judd Legum Aug 7, 2015 9:52pm


Donald Trump, who leads the polls for the Republican presidential nomination by a wide margin, received a series of tough questions during the Fox News debate on Thursday. Notably, Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly confronted Trump about his history of insults about women. Over the years, Trump has referred to women as “fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals,” Kelly noted.

Appearing on CNN Friday night, Trump suggested that Kelly asked him “ridiculous questions” because she was on her period. Specifically, Trump said she had “blood coming out of her whatever.”

On Thursday night Trump dismissed concerns that he was a misogynist, saying he didn’t “have time for total political correctness.” “[W]hat I say is fun, it’s kidding, we have a good time,” Trump added

[Good Luck]
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Megyn Kelly, Bret Baier, Chris Wallace...tools
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
I have no problem voting for Trump.

I think the fact that everybody wants him to stop speaking what's actually on his minds tells us all we need to know about the State of our Union. The nannies are going to go stark raving mad before this is all over.

I for one am tired of people pretending everything is OK when it is not, and that's where i think this Trump fiasco is headed.
as Buckstalker keeps saying, they are all tools, Trump has many fewer "handlers" or masters to answer to.

i don't agree with Trumps mental attitude, but hte fact is that when i live in VA i was surrounded by people who make Trump seem politically correct and they were just your average military type...MS has a very differnt demographic more of a good ole boy and it's even worse here...
to my way of thinking there is something refreshing about hearing his actual opinions and people being able to say hey that's just wrong. without a big shunning process. That's what the media wants to do, shun him, but it ain't working.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
I try to keep my opinion off of this post for many reasons. I will say one thing I find Trumps mouth very refreshing. He tells it like it is and not to many people like that, especially the lap dogs. Almost everybody knows that money buys our leaders been that way from the beginning founding fathers and all. Nobody talks about it, until Trump came along and said he did it and he gives us examples. I think he is just what the doctor ordered so I say go Trump.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Ray!
That is the first thing you've ever said that made sense.

Holy crap! Hell hath frozen the f over!
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Despite a critically shaky debate performance and a fresh round of controversy, real-estate magnate Donald Trump still leads the Republican presidential field, according to several new polls.

A new poll from NBC and SurveyMonkey showed Trump's popularity among GOP primary voters mostly unchanged. According to the new poll, 23% of Republican-primary voters said Trump would be their first choice for president if the election were held today. That's up from 22% last week though well within the poll's 3.4% margin of error.

On Monday, polling firm Morning Consult released a poll that showed Trump's support increasing to 32% from 25% last week.

Public Policy Polling also released a poll that showed Trump leading among Republican primary voters in Iowa, with 19%, 7% ahead of the next candidate, Dr. Ben Carson.

“Donald Trump’s public fight with Fox News might hurt him in the long run,” Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling, said in a press release. “But for the time being he continues to lead the pack.”
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Fox News...the biggest right wing propaganda machine in existence, yet their tactics are so childish and easy to see through it becomes comedic at best

I watched Gutfeld's show last night for about 5 minutes...he had 4 black children on who were supposedly from a debate team to express their views on who they thought won and lost the debate...miraculously all of them concluded that either Trump or Paul were the clear losers and that Rubio, Carson and Kasich were the victors...

It was the most pathetic attempt to sway public opinion that I have ever seen!!!
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Buckstalker


FOX NEWS: leans right


LEANS LEFT:

MSNBC
NBC
CBS
ABC
CNN
New York Times

and the list goes on and on


You sit here and bark about FOX News like they control the media. Do you need help understanding how biased everyone BESIDES fox is? You want fox to be like CNN so not one outlet has a different opinion? Good grief.


Just the ratings should tell everyone that the majority of america is not liberal or left leaning. It is still center right.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
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Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
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That's your best and most accurate post yet.
Nicely done.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
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That's your best and most accurate post yet.
Nicely done.

A fascinating response of an error posting by the relentless.
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Buckstalker


FOX NEWS: leans right


LEANS LEFT:

MSNBC
NBC
CBS
ABC
CNN
New York Times

and the list goes on and on


You sit here and bark about FOX News like they control the media. Do you need help understanding how biased everyone BESIDES fox is? You want fox to be like CNN so not one outlet has a different opinion? Good grief.


Just the ratings should tell everyone that the majority of america is not liberal or left leaning. It is still center right.

NO...I don't need help understanding how biased everyone INCLUDING Fox is...nor did I EVER state that I want Fox to be like CNN
Here's a newsflash for you cow....they are ALL the same. They are ALL propaganda machines...not news outlets.
If you continue to believe that the "right" is looking out for you, or that Fox News is telling you the truth, it proves to me that you are simply one of the ignorant masses...
I am 100% positive that no one in Washington or in the media is looking out for me...Ruff...Ruff
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
One more thing Cash, and I am not trying to be mean or funny, but are you just plain dense? The ONLY reason that propaganda outlets like CNN and Fox continue to exist is because simpletons like yourself continue to not only watch them, but you continue to "believe" that they are telling you the facts...

Ruff
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buckstalker:
One more thing Cash, and I am not trying to be mean or funny, but are you just plain dense? The ONLY reason that propaganda outlets like CNN and Fox continue to exist is because simpletons like yourself continue to not only watch them, but you continue to "believe" that they are telling you the facts...

Ruff

Good grief you are making your own image of me to fit your argument. I know what they are and who they serve. One just does it better than the rest.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Cash, the mere fact that you think one does it better than the other shows clearly that you still think they exist.

There is no democrat and there is no republican. Fox news is EXACTLY the same as cnn, msnbc, cnbc, etc...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Actually FOX News is NOT...EXACTLY the same as MSNBC. You have two different ideologies being pushed on these networks.


What you need to know is that it doesnt matter at the very tip top. They are all the same and one. Its like a hydra. However, they are different as a culture and are run as such.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Trump: Undocumented immigrants 'have to go'
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Donald Trump says he would send in U.S. ground troops to fight Islamic State militants, “police” the Iran nuclear agreement, ask potential Supreme Court nominees their thoughts on abortion, rescind President Barack Obama’s DREAM Act and deport all undocumented immigrants if he were elected president.


“The executive order gets rescinded,” Trump said in a wide-ranging interview that aired on NBC’s “Meet The Press” on Sunday. “We’re going to keep the families together, but they have to go.”

On the subject of IS, the Republican frontrunner said he would combat the terror group by taking away their oil — and use profits from the sale of that oil to help wounded U.S. soldiers.

Trump trashed the Iran nuclear deal — calling Secretary of State John Kerry “incompetent” for negotiating an agreement that’s “going to lead to nuclear holocaust” — but said he would not rip it up on the first day of his theoretical administration.

“I will police that deal,” the real estate mogul said. “You know, I’ve taken over some bad contracts. I buy contracts where people screwed up and they have bad contracts. But I’m really good at looking at a contract and finding things within a contract that even if they’re bad. I would police that contract so tough that they don’t have a chance. As bad as the contract is, I will be so tough on that contract.”
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Donald Trump Just Released An Actual Policy Plan

by Emily Atkin Aug 16, 2015 2:51

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures during a campaign stop at Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.H., Friday, Aug. 14, 2015.


“This is not a reality show,” billionaire Donald Trump said of his presidential candidacy on Sunday. “This is the real deal.”

He’s apparently not kidding. Within minutes of his comments on Meet the Press, Trump released a comprehensive policy plan for immigration reform — something many other Republican candidates have yet to do.

In it, Trump lays out what he plans to do about both border security and the 12 million undocumented immigrants who already live in the United States. Most notably, the plan promises widespread deportation, including the “mandatory return of all criminal aliens,” or undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes.

“We’re going to keep the families together, but they have to go,” he said on Meet the Press. Neither in his interview nor in the plan, however, did Trump say how this would be accomplished.

Trump’s plan said that he would end what’s known as birthright citizenship, which guarantees citizenship to almost all people born within U.S. borders, regardless of the legal status of their parents. That right is guaranteed under the 14th Amendment. A number of other Republican candidates have also expressed support for this idea, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Rand Paul, and Sen. Lindsey Graham.

As for border security, Trump doubled down on his pledge to have Mexico build and pay for an enormous wall across the border. Under the Trump administration, the U.S. would impose various penalties on the Mexican government and its officials until it agreed to build and pay for the wall.

“Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards — of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options].”

Under Trump’s plan, businesses would be required to hire “American workers first”; monetary penalties would be increased for people who overstay their visas; and the J-1 visa jobs program, which allows kids from other countries to participate in things like summer exchange programs, would be terminated. Trump’s plan also calls for tripling the number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, which are in charge of enforcing immigration laws.

The plan may be difficult to implement. Many of the initiatives, such as tripling the number of ICE officers, would require huge increases in federal funding — increases that would most likely have to be approved by Congress.

Interestingly, the most frequent source Trump cites to back up the ideas in his plan is the right-wing news site Breitbart News. At least six of the conservative site’s articles are linked to in Trump’s plan, far more than any other source. Trump has done numerous exclusive interviews with the site, which on Sunday reported that his immigration plan would “get Americans back to work.”
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Ray, I think that sounds like a fair proposal for immigration reform. Do you think so?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Cash, this is my opinion so far. I agree that something has to be done and has to be done soon. I have never been a wall person. However it may work I just have to run it through my mind first. I can see Trumps plan it is a wall that is part of a massive plan that is using economic pressure and trade also. I have always said that prosecuting employers of illegals is the way to go but now the situation has gotten two big and out of hand for that to be effective by itself. I do know that if anybody can do the job and not be afraid of who he offends Trump would be the man.


One more thing the figure of 12 million illegals in this country is an old figure. The figure that is more closer to reality is 24 million .
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Trump is citing 42 million as the current figure. No idea if that's right but I wouldn't doubt it.

I've read his proposed plan and I can't imagine anything better.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
The President nor congress can just arbitrarily change the 14th. it will require an amendment to teh Constitution. The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.

I for one don't want to see a Constitutional Convention because of the way they will trade our CURRENT freedoms around. You can bet that the second will be on the table and maybe even parts of the Fourth (illegal search and seizures) because so many practices being used today violate the spirit of the 4th, even if the SCOTUS "finds" them acceptable... Some of them have yet to be fully tested.The Constituion provides the Feds absolutely no control over drugs or food, yet they chave taken control of them. You can bet a convention would try to address that too...

A convention should make everyon who loves freedom pretty nervous.

The 14th was needed when it was written because slaves had no cosntitutionally granted rights and they were in no-mans-land leglly. The 14th cut thru that mess, but it is outdated today IMO. Primarily because travel is so much easier today then it was 150 years ago... Chinese people nd other foreigners come here just to have thei babies so they can take US citizneship if they wish to in the future. It's loophole that needs to be closed, but like i said, not thru a Convention....

The fact is that illegal immigrants are jumping the line. We should stop accepting applications from the illegals inside this country. Period. It only fair to teh people who are actually trying to come here legally and legitimately, we do want those people.


The USA allows the most legal immigration of all countries in the world. We are a welcoming nation.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
wright you are Glass once you start to change or eliminate amendments to our constitution , I have a feeling that there would be no limit to what could happen to our document. Its sort of funny but Canada has the same law that we do so I have heard.

I do know this , That pregnant women fro Mexico make sure they land here in this country just before they give birth so they can have a baby born on U.S. soil this is the anchor that they talk about. I personally know state doctors that run clinics for the poor and some of these women from Mexico are in such bad shape it takes eighty to ninety thousand dollars worth of medical attention to give birth to there baby.. Thank you American tax payer. And this is just the beginning.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
the good old days never weren't so good.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.

Well sure you could put it that way, and you could also look at ideas in the past that didnt work. I guess since women couldnt vote, but now can...that means a progressive $15 wage for someone starting out at McDonalds makes perfect sense then! Maybe bump the min to $9-10 in the next year, but 15?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
By Sarah N. Lynch


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump blasted hedge fund managers on Sunday as mere "paper pushers" who he said were "getting away with murder" by not paying their fair share of taxes.

In a telephone interview on CBS's "Face the Nation," Trump vowed to reform the tax laws if elected and said the current system was harming middle class Americans who currently faced higher tax rates than traders on Wall Street.

"The hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky," Trump said.

"They are energetic. They are very smart. But a lot of them - they are paper-pushers. They make a fortune. They pay no tax. It's ridiculous, ok?"

Trump's comments were referring to the so-called "carried interest loophole" - a provision in the tax code which allows private equity and hedge fund managers pay taxes at the capital gains rate instead of the ordinary income rate.

Many fund managers are in the top income bracket, but the capital gains tax bracket is only 20 percent.

While these individuals are also required to pay an additional 3.8 percent surtax on their net investment income, this total rate is still far lower than the 39.6 percent rate that top wage earners must pay on their ordinary income.

"Some of them are friends of mine. Some of them, I couldn't care less about," Trump said.

"It is the wrong thing. These guys are getting away with murder. I want to lower the rates for the middle class."

Trump did not offer any specific detail on how he would like to reform the tax code, but he is not the only presidential candidate to take aim at the "carried interest" loophole.

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has also previously called for reforms, saying it was wrong that hedge fund managers "pay lower taxes than nurses" or truck drivers. [ID: nL2N0XB31K]

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, another Democratic presidential candidate whose progressive agenda has been drawing large crowds of supporters, has also been a vocal critic of the tax loophole.

Among Republicans, Trump has continued to dominate the field of presidential candidates.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll on Friday showed Trump with 32 percent of the support of Republicans, followed by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush with 16 percent, and Ben Carson with 8 percent.

(Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Gareth Jones)
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
WOW, Trump is being honest, what will the rest of the political machine do? LOL


i just messaged trumps campaign to creat an app to help on social media, let's see if they go with it?

" I was thinking about campaign ideas on social media and it occurred to me that you should create an app that allows people to put their own face over yours in a "combover" picture. Politically it is usually expedient to go straight at jokes like that instead of discouraging it. It makes you more real."
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
This is what progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster.

the fact is cashcow that before "progressiveness" came itno being, we were already on an unssutainable disaster course. 12 year old kids worked 80 hour weeks and diesd very young from breathing the dust from any of a hundred types like coal or grains or cotton fibers. factory workers and miners lived and died in the same town where the4y paid high rent and groecery prices at the company stores. They worked their whole lives and died in debt to their employer. You are progressive trust me, you don't know how not to be.

fact is you would not like to live without the progress we have already made.

all human endeavor goes astray, don't use broad term labels- when you say "progressive looks like. An unsustainable disaster." you are telling your Mom and your sisters that they shouldn't be voting. think about it.

Well sure you could put it that way, and you could also look at ideas in the past that didnt work. I guess since women couldnt vote, but now can...that means a progressive $15 wage for someone starting out at McDonalds makes perfect sense then! Maybe bump the min to $9-10 in the next year, but 15?
tell me caschcow, do you eat at Mcdonalds enough to actualy care what they get paid? cuz i don't. I shop where i want to so can you WTF do you really care about how much a burger flipper gets paid and why?

When i have hamburgers now? I use lamb and beef, it's awesome and a bigmac doesn't look like food to me any more...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I dont eat that junk anymore either. A home made patty enriched with flavoring spices is hands down far better than any big mac.

My burgers usually have a little heat in them. Toasted buns, grilled onions, home made sweet potato fries, etc.

Food that comes through your car window is not really food in my opinion. Taco Bell is another one I am not into. Id probably get sick right now if I went to Burger King right now and chomped down a whopper with soggy fries and a sugary soda...blah.


As for why I care what a burger flipper gets paid...I dont a whole lot. Its all good anyway as these people will end up shooting themselves in the foot. Whats next anyway after $15 an hour? A housing allowance too?


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Posted by glassman on :
 
Here's the deal cashcow, the Government has been giving billions, no hundreds of billions to the banks and the banks have been buying stock and loaning it out for stuff. The EXACT same end result (and maybe even better) would have happened if the govt gave the money to poor people, or just everybody..

you see cashcow, poor people are poor cuz they don't manage money well... so it ssoon ends up in the hands of people who do manage it well and provide whatever other people want for decent prices...

trickle up or trickle down... it don't matter. I would be fine if we had only precious metals for money then inflation would be non-existent, but the govt can't borrow against precious metals and pay it back with cheaper money cuz infaltion wouldn't happen with precious metals...

and so it goes.... Capitalism sux (cuz of inflation mostly) but its still the best thing we got...

minimum wages are the same thing- i don;t like them, but without them, people end up working AND poor... we end up paying their bills one way or another no matter what cuz we ain't going to holocaust them. We pay the're medical, we pay their rent we pay for food stamps... yes for working people it's true.. most welfare peopel work. they have to pay daycare too and that ain't cheap we subsidise that too...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Here's the deal cashcow, the Government has been giving billions, no hundreds of billions to the banks and the banks have been buying stock and loaning it out for stuff. The EXACT same end result (and maybe even better) would have happened if the govt gave the money to poor people, or just everybody..

you see cashcow, poor people are poor cuz they don't manage money well... so it ssoon ends up in the hands of people who do manage it well and provide whatever other people want for decent prices...

trickle up or trickle down... it don't matter. I would be fine if we had only precious metals for money then inflation would be non-existent, but the govt can't borrow against precious metals and pay it back with cheaper money cuz infaltion wouldn't happen with precious metals...

and so it goes.... Capitalism sux (cuz of inflation mostly) but its still the best thing we got...

minimum wages are the same thing- i don;t like them, but without them, people end up working AND poor... we end up paying their bills one way or another no matter what cuz we ain't going to holocaust them. We pay the're medical, we pay their rent we pay for food stamps... yes for working people it's true.. most welfare peopel work. they have to pay daycare too and that ain't cheap we subsidise that too...

And I would agree with that.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally posted By CashCowMoo:

I dont eat that junk anymore either. A home made patty enriched with flavoring spices is hands down far better than any big mac.

My burgers usually have a little heat in them. Toasted buns, grilled onions, home made sweet potato fries, etc.

Food that comes through your car window is not really food in my opinion. Taco Bell is another one I am not into. Id probably get sick right now if I went to Burger King right now and chomped down a whopper with soggy fries and a sugary soda...blah.


As for why I care what a burger flipper gets paid...I dont a whole lot. Its all good anyway as these people will end up shooting themselves in the foot. Whats next anyway after $15 an hour? A housing allowance too?
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You have to eat there once in awhile, everyone's stomach needs this, most kids love there food.

Nothing like a hamburger patty that shatters when it hits the ground, an american tradition, actually a world wide one now days.

I do care about what is happening as far as the minium wage. We are forcing the small guy out, if they have many employees and this will force the bigger guy to automate more.

These types of jobs were not created to make a living and support families, there isn't enough profit margin to do so.

To me they were created to make some money for the business and give young people the chance to work and learn how to work.

It used to be that you had to know a little math to work at these places, now that is not even a requirement.

As we keep forcing more and more small businesses out of business, because of all the costs they have to absorb, we have more people sitting at home figuring ways to spend their time, not a good thing.

Where do a young people get job experience these days? It is becoming much harder as we keep forcing more of these types of businesses out with high costs and so many regulations.


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Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Now lets talk about the Trumpster. All he does is talk through both ends of his rear end!

It is sad that our nation has to turn to someone like him because they are so frustrated about all the issues hurting this nation.

Doesn't mean he will do anything about them, just wants the limelight puting down everything and everybody.

Hopefully our young people understand this is not proper behavior, because if they follow his lead, they will find out the hard way.

He just doesn't know when to shut his mouth, it's horrible what we have to chose from for our president!

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Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Now lets talk about the Trumpster. All he does is talk through both ends of his rear end!

It is sad that our nation has to turn to someone like him because they are so frustrated about all the issues hurting this nation.

Doesn't mean he will do anything about them, just wants the limelight puting down everything and everybody.

Hopefully our young people understand this is not proper behavior, because if they follow his lead, they will find out the hard way.

He just doesn't know when to shut his mouth, it's horrible what we have to chose from for our president!

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Everyone swore hillary was in the bag for 2016 and everyone a while back said trump would not be around long. Well, the tables have flipped. Its weird, but fun to watch.

Trump is funny though. I like his jokes about people who go to the Jeb Bush rallies...they sleep at them. Jeb Bush is very boring and hard to listen to sometimes.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Donald Trump, a billionaire you can trust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_8WURBGnM
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
really a classy post cash the but plugs with trumps picture on them are the work of a 12year old. I am not a republican and I would not post anything like that.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
That was at the end for a very short minute. You are such a crying baby sometimes ray.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
The GOP frontrunner is A-OK if his tax policy increases his own tax bill.

A day after a confrontation with Univision reporter Jorge Ramos at a press conference in Dubuque, Iowa, GOP-frontrunner Donald Trump turned his attention to a decidedly less sensational topic: tax code.

In an interview with Bloomberg on Wednesday, Trump said he would change and simplify the tax code. He took particular aim at hedge fund profits and said he would be fine if his policy increased his own tax obligation.

Bloomberg reporter John Heilemann asked Trump specifically about carried interest—tax fund managers’ cut of investment profits that’s currently taxed as capital gain, with a 20% rate, versus ordinary income, the top bracket of which is taxed at nearly 40%. “So you would want to tax carried interest in the same way that ordinary income is taxed?” Heilemann said.





“I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think it’s outrageous,” Trump said. “I want to lower taxes for the middle class.”

Such a change would not just affect hedge fund folks, but would also impact people in limited real estate partnerships, which is particularly notable because Trump holds a stake in at least ten real estate limited partnerships.

Trump said he’s “ready” and “willing” to raise taxes on himself. “I’m ok with it.”

(Trump’s answer comes two days after his campaign dodged a similar question from Fortune.)

“You see my statements, I do very well,” Trump told Bloomberg. “I don’t mind paying some taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:

Donald Trump, a billionaire you can trust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG_8WURBGnM

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My point from and earlier post was demonstrated here with Trump's remark about fat people and Rosey.

I don't like her but his remark is what we keep trying to tell our young people not to allow, bullying.

If someone/someones in school use this to continually put another kid down, the parent of that kid would be pissed.

This is the possible President of the US saying this is okay and the crowd thinks it's funny...sad

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Posted by raybond on :
 
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Donald Trump says he's going to make a decision once and for all about whether he'll mount a third party bid if he loses the Republican nomination for president.

Trump told reporters following a speech in Nashville Saturday that he's going to make a decision "very soon."

He says he thinks the decision will make a lot of people "very happy."

Trump has so far refused to pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee. He says it gives him leverage.

But his hands are largely tied: He'll have to sign a pledge to do so if he wants to appear on the ballot in South Carolina and potentially several other states.

Trump was courting tea party voters at a conference hosted by the National Federation of Republican Assemblies
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Kristol is the editor of the Weekly Standard, which published an article on July 18 entitled “Trump GOP Candidacy Blows Up.” At the time the article was published, Trump was tied for the lead in the national polls with Jeb Bush. He currently leads by 13 points.

The assumption in Kristol’s tweet is that Republican voters want cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Most Republican politicans act this way. Major cuts to Medicare and Social Security have been included in Republican budgets, drafted by Paul Ryan. The “serious” Republican candidates — Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Marco Rubio — all support cuts. It is also a policy favored Republican donors.

But it is not a policy supported by Republican voters.

A Pew poll conducted in 2013 found that just 21% of Republicans favored cuts in Medicare. A higher percentage (24%) favored an increase in Medicare spending. The findings for Social Security were even more dramatic. Just 17% of Republicans favored Social Security spending cuts while 35% favored an increase.

Even among very conservative voters, support for entitlement spending is high. A 2014 Pew poll found that among “consistently conservative” Americans, 59% wanted to maintain current Social Security benefits. Only 38% favored reductions.

Support for any kind of reduction in Social Security benefit is not much higher among very conservative people (38%) than liberals (32%), according to the Pew poll.

Trump clearly understands that. Bill Kristol and Republican elites do not.

Part of Trump’s appeal comes from showmanship, bombast and a willingness to appeal to the darker elements of the Republican electorate. But Trump also benefits from actually supporting policies favored by rank-and-file Republican voters.

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Posted by raybond on :
 
Donald Trump Forms Presidential Exploratory Committee Because He's the "Only One" Who Can "Make America Great"
by Wochit 0:46 mins


It looks like Donald Trump is seriously considering taking political office. The business mogul announced that he is officially forming a presidential exploratory committee to determine whether or not he should run for president. That's right, you could be potentially referring to the Celebrity Apprentice boss as President Trump. His decision, he says, stems from his belief that the United States of America are in terrible shape. "I have a great love for our country, but it is a country that is in serious trouble. We have lost the respect of the entire world. Americans deserve better than what they get from their politicians --- who are all talk and no action!" he said in a press release
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Photos show Donald Trump in military uniform, with athletic teams before dodging the Vietnam draft with ‘bull---t’ injury


Seth Poppel/Yearbook Library
Trump received four college draft deferments over a four-year span during the Vietnam War from 1964 through 1968.
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After earning medals during his time at the prestigous military academy, Trump (c.) got a medical deferment after college for a bone spur in his foot.
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Donald Trump — once a smiling teenage cadet at a military academy — dodged the Vietnam War with student deferments and a boo-boo on his foot, records show.

Trump, a gifted athlete and decorated cadet at New York Military Academy in upstate Cornwall in the 1960s, sidestepped the draft with four deferments and a medical disqualification for bone spurs in his foot.

One Trump expert said he believes the GOP candidate “skated.”

“I doubt it was a serious medical issue,” Trump biographer Wayne Barrett, author of “Trump: The Deals and the Downfall,” told the Daily News Monday.

TRUMP'S VILE SLAP AT MCCAIN INSULTS ALL THE VETERANS


Seth Poppel/Yearbook Library
Donald Trump, shown here in 1964 with a woman, was a student at the New York Military Academy before getting four draft deferments.



“Up to that time, he was an active athlete. It was bulls--t,” Barrett told The News. “I never heard of any foot problem other than them being well-placed in his mouth,” the biographer said.

Barrett said Trump likely got special treatment as a young man with money and influential family connections.

“It appears he was actively looking for some justification to evade it,” Barrett said of the draft.

“There’s no question it fit a pattern of avoidance that was commonplace in his generation. You cut a corner, maybe got somebody to write a letter or interpret results of an Army physical in a way that was beneficial to you,” he said.

TRUMP SAYS HE DOES NOT OWE JOHN MCCAIN AN APOLOGY FOR SAYING 'HE'S NOT A WAR HERO'

Trump’s draft avoidance is back on the front lines after the bloviating billionaire dissed Arizona Sen. John McCain on Saturday, saying there was nothing heroic about the Navy pilot spending time in a North Vietnamese POW camp.

While McCain was nearly killed serving his country, Trump once got a medal as a cadet for being neat and orderly.

On Sunday, Trump said on ABC’s “This Week” that he’d opposed the Vietnam War — and declined to apologize to McCain.


New York Daily News

Trump's campaign defended his military time Monday, saying in a statement he had "a minor medical deferment for bone spurs on both heels of his feet."

The deferment was supposed to be short-term, so Trump entered a draft and got the number 356 out of 365, the campaign said. His high number never got picked.

"Although he was not a fan of the Vietnam War, yet another disaster for our country, had his draft number been selected he would have proudly served and he is tremendously grateful to all those who did," the campaign said.

Trump topped the GOP field in a new Washington Post-ABC News national poll released Monday, grabbing 24% of likely Republican voters compared with 13% for Scott Walker and 12% for Jeb Bush.

In high school photos obtained by The News, Trump is seen with medals pinned to his uniform and posing as a star athlete on several teams, seemingly a hero in the making.

Ironically, the draft dodger performed so well in the military environment — with its early morning reveille, daily inspections, drills and taps — he was ranked third among his fellow cadets, a former classmate told The News.

“He was quite mature and driven,” classmate George Beuttell said Monday. “He was elected ladies’ man his senior year.”

Beuttell recalled playing on the football team with Trump and how the future real estate mogul had an elite air, even then.

“He didn’t mingle with the rest of the corps who were not as high ranked. He lived in a different set of barracks,” Beuttell told The News.

EDITORIAL: TRUMP'S COMMENTS ON MCCAIN'S MILITARY SERVICE PERFECTLY DISPLAY TRUE COLORS OF AN EGOMANIACAL BULLY

Another classmate said Trump was a physical powerhouse.

“He could have played on a farm team for a professional team, but he chose to go to business school instead,” Bruce Barberi, 68, said.

Despite his commanding high school career, Trump wasn’t maneuvering for real military service.


After graduating, he went on to receive draft deferments — in July 1964, January 1966, December 1966 and January 1968 — while studying at Fordham University and the University of Pennsylvania.

After leaving the University of Pennsylvania in 1968, he was quickly reclassified as 1-A, available for service in July 1968, and went for a physical that September.

He was “disqualified” at some point after the physical and got a medical deferment in October 1968, the records show.

Over the weekend, Trump said the medical problem involved bone spurs in his feet. Asked which foot had the problem, the candidate said: “Go look it up in the records. It’s in the record.”


Seth Poppel/Yearbook Library
Trump (c.) was part of a handful of athletic teams during his time at the military school, including intramural basketball.



Unless Trump steps up to voluntarily provide the records, the world may never know for sure.

A spokesman for the Selective Service System told The News on Monday that the detailed medical records related to draft deferments have been destroyed.

“The information no longer exists,” Richard Flahavan told The News.

Flahavan said when the draft office was closing around 1976, millions of records, including test results and chest X-rays, were dumped. The archivist in charge decided to keep only classification histories and registration cards, he said.

“We have no way of knowing if his personal doctor was involved at all. If he claimed a pre-existing problem, he could have had his doctor give paperwork for the physical exam. But the fact is, the military doctor did disqualify him for service,” Flahavan said.

Trump, 69, ended up at the New York Military Academy at age 13 after his dad plucked him out of the private Kew-Forest School in Forest Hills, Queens, believing he needed “more discipline,” Barrett said.

Known as “D.T.” at his strict new school, Trump played varsity football, baseball and soccer and was on the intramural basketball team.

He was on the cadet council for two years, the honor roll for four years and won the Neatness and Order Medal in 1960 and 1961.


Seth Poppel/Yearbook Library
Trump (l.), here with another member of the military school’s bowling team, was ‘disqualified’ after a physical in 1968, leading one Trump expert to believe he had ‘skated’ past the draft.



While at Fordham, he was “hardly a star student” and then switched to the University of Pennsylvania, where he took undergraduate classes at the Wharton School of Finance and “stayed far away from the tumult” of anti-war protesting, Barrett said.

He graduated in 1968, though he had no senior photo in the yearbook and was not listed as a member of any sports, the author said.

When he registered to vote for the first time in 1969, he joined the Republican Party.

It was ironic because “no one opposed to war would have registered as Republican,” Barrett said Monday.

Trump shocked supporters on Saturday when he took his shot at McCain.

“He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in his stunning statement in Iowa. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

McCain took the highroad Monday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

The former presidential candidate said he wanted “to put all that behind me” and refused to “look back in anger.”

“I’m not a hero,” the 78-year-old senator said, declining to demand an apology from Trump.

“But those who were my senior ranking officers ... those that inspired us to do things we otherwise wouldn’t be capable of doing, those are the people I think he owes an apology to,” he said.


Trump doubled down Monday on NBC’s “Today” show, again blaming the media and critics for misrepresenting his views.

He then attacked McCain — who serves as the chairman of the Armed Services Committee and is a member of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee — as a legislator.

“I do have a problem with what he’s doing on the border — he’s terrible,” Trump continued. “And I do have a problem with the fact, with the illegal immigration, is a disaster, and he’s doing a horrible job for the vets.”

Later, Trump appeared to be angling for a truce.

“I have respect for Sen. McCain,” Trump said on Fox News’ “O’Reilly Factor.” “I used to like him a lot. I supported him. I raised a lot of money for him in his campaign against President Obama, and certainly if there was a misunderstanding I would totally take that back.”

In Trump’s hometown, Mayor de Blasio added his name to the growing list of lawmakers condemning Trump’s remarks, calling them “unacceptable.”


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When asked which foot he had the injnury in which kept him from serving in the Vietnam War, Trump told reporters over the weekend ‘Go look it up in the records. It's in the record.’



Still, the city probably can’t yank Trump's contracts, the mayor said Monday.

“Unless there has been some breaking of a contract or something that gives us a legal opportunity to act, I'm not sure we have a specific course of action,” de Blasio said.

“But we’re certainly not looking to do any business with him going forward,” he told reporters.

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who considers both Trump and McCain friends, said he thought the controversy would blow over.

“I believe that what Donald said about him was wrong, but Donald says it was misinterpreted,” Giuliani said. “So I take Donald at his word, that it was misinterpreted.”

New York podiatrist Dr. Rock Positano said Monday that the real pain from bone spurs on a patient’s heel comes from irritation and inflammation in the adjacent tissue. It can be treated with over-the-counter pain medicine.

“If it’s in both feet and makes walking and standing difficult, there’s a good possibility it could prevent a person from being an effective soldier,” Positano said. “But most of us have had this. In a mild case, it’s not debilitating.”

Trump's vile slap at McCain insults all veterans .
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
There is no doubt that Trumps past does not portray the Trump of the present. Why is it taking so long to come out is my only question. Maybe it will after he ruins about 5 more potential more republican hopefuls.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
I'm not sure what can come out about Trump's past? He's been in the public eye for quite a while without the luxury of being an ever-protected politician.

I know for absolute sure that both Clinton and Bush alike are desperate to find something.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Why would Trump even bring up McCain's military career with his past?

Either he is jealous, not to bright as far as common sense, or just so arrogant he doesn't care.

I think its all three.

It's strange he would be that involved in a military academy then get out of the draft, it's funny what war does to people, playing it is fine.


What scares me the most about him if he were to become president, is what kind of big time mess will he create in the Middle East for us?

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Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Right, because Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Bammy have done a damn fine job of keeping it nice and peaceful over there...

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Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By Relentless:
Right, because Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Bammy have done a damn fine job of keeping it nice and peaceful over there...
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I not going to disagree with that, but he is nuttier than even that George one.

Why would you ever want to allow someone like him to have access to Nukes?

So since other Presidents got us in Wars, it's again okay to send our troops in Harms Way, that's a reason?

Don't we have enough bills etc. to have learned our lesson for awhile?

There is no doubt in my mind by what he has said, that he will get us in deep in the Middle East Crap. He will do this to show up the other Presidents and Middle East leaders how important he is.

I don't care how much I liked anyone running for President, if I feel they are going to get us involved in War again, it better be for good reason not just because he can.

This dude is a real piece of work, that could care less about a good reason to do anything.

I don't know if I have ever disliked anyone running for office as much as Trump.

Maybe because I have seen him to much over the years, and maybe because i don't care for arrogent people, i am not impressed by his money, lots of people are.

There is noting new about people like him, I have been around many like him, who just like to hear themselves talk and hope someone will listen.

He definally got his wish. It's like he lost his first tooth and his wish came true... lots of attention

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Posted by Relentless. on :
 
OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally posted By Relentless:

OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
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Don't have any tangible reasons, really. How long a list do you need.

All anyone has to do to turn his talk into bs, is start looking in his past, that started with the article i posted.

Here is a guy talking about sending illegals back to their countries, but if he is so against them, he should start with all the businesses he owns and not employ any.

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Posted by raybond on :
 
New poll Trump up higher


• Donald Trump, 32%
• Ben Carson, 19%
• Jeb Bush, 9%
• Ted Cruz, 7%
• Mike Huckabee, 5%
• Scott Walker, 5%
• Carly Fiorina, 3%
• Rand Paul, 3%
• Marco Rubio, 3%
• Chris Christie, 2%
• John Kasich, 2%
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Originally posted By Relentless:

OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
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Don't have any tangible reasons, really. How long a list do you need.

All anyone has to do to turn his talk into bs, is start looking in his past, that started with the article i posted.

Here is a guy talking about sending illegals back to their countries, but if he is so against them, he should start with all the businesses he owns and not employ any.

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Did you post an article showing proof that he employs illegal immigrants?
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/07/hypocritical-trump-employs -illegals-to-build-d-c-hotels-3029028.html

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Posted by Relentless. on :
 
LOOOOOOOL!!!

You have to do better than before it's news. A well known shill site.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
He's already stated that it is possible that some of his subcontractors could have employed illegals.

Being in construction myself I can tell you I have little if any control over who they employ and no ability to verify any of it.

Please try again.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Are you really that naive Relentless, i didn't even want to waste the time looking this up, i did it just for you.

With as many businesses as he has had, do you really think that none of them hire illegals. I forgot if they have a green card there legal.

What employer is going to admit he hires illegals?

I have worked for companies over the years that use illegals, it doesn't mean they paid them that bad.

Sorry, they were legal because they had a green card, problem was the green card might change over a period of a few years, same guy different last name, he must have gotten married.

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Posted by Relentless. on :
 
You're not making any sense, pal.

It's fairly clear that you did not read the article... He has stated that it is possible that some of his SUBCONTRACTORS might have employed illegals.

I deal with subcontractors all the time and can tell you I have very little control over who they hire and even less ability to verify it. I can, through contractual language, mandate that any sub bidding on work utilize e-verify. I have no ability to actually make sure they do it.

Reading the headline of a story sure is fun, but reading the actual story might be a tad more informative.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
We will go your way with it.

If i am making a hugh stand against our present policy concerning illegals, and i am running for president, i sure as hell would not be stating that my company is subbing out work that uses illegals and somehow that is okay.

I would be saying to my company and the public, i will not tolarate any company of mine subbing out jobs that uses illegals, your employees will GET the point

Like i said, i have not known any employer that says, i employ illegals, someone else hired them without my knowledge.

For some reason they have layed off of Trump so far as Raybond has stated, not sure why, maybe there just letting him put his foot way down his mouth before unleashing, we will see.

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Posted by raybond on :
 
Here is a doozie for you


https://instagram.com/p/7YV_u_mhWB/
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
good=by walker you really stunk. The Donald got rid of you
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Ray I hear the gov of cali Brown has been pondering a run. Would you vote for him?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
who is cali brown and I don't vote for a gov
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
good=by walker you really stunk. The Donald got rid of you

Good riddance...How that freakin idiot ever got to the position he is in now is beyond me...Walker is a complete azz hole...
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:

Ray I hear the gov of cali Brown has been pondering a run. Would you vote for him?

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Hopefully he is running out of the state to some other state.

He and his dad are a real pair, much like the second Bush.

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Posted by raybond on :
 
sorry cash I just can't make up my mind they are al so good maybe you can help me.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
who is cali brown and I don't vote for a gov

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Looks like things are starting to tip in a negative direction for trump. I don't think he can halt the trend. It had to change for him sometime maybe this is it.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
posted by cash

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.

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I don't know where you are getting your info from but Jerry Brown has said he is not running this time.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
posted by cash

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.

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I don't know where you are getting your info from but Jerry Brown has said he is not running this time.

2016 will be GOP only. The writing is on the wall and has been predicted a ways out. Democrats will not win 2016.

The big fight right now is somehow defeating Trump so idiot effn Jeb can get in.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
gee ish kabibble your such a genius.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
gee ish kabibble your such a genius.

You're a moron
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Is little ish kabibble getting upset. Did your bag of salt go down in price
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
what are you babbling about?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
what is the matter ish kabibble, don't worry your partner cash [aka kichi koo ] to help you out and give toy support.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
new poll numbers


Here's a full look at where the candidates stand:
•Trump: 23%
•Carson: 13%
•Fiorina: 13%
•Rubio: 9%
•Bush: 8%
•Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): 6%
•Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky): 2%
• Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 1%

NOW WATCH: Everything you need to know about the guy who went toe-to-toe with Trump last night
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Trump Rally Turns Violent As His Supporters Push And Spit On Immigrant Advocates

by Esther Yu-Hsi Lee Oct 15, 2015 11:18am


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Donald Trump supporters are not just passionate about his anti-immigrant rhetoric; they’re also living out his outrage in real-time.

A man spat in an immigrant activist’s face during a campaign rally for the Republican presidential candidate in Richmond, Virginia on Wednesday night. The incident occurred soon after immigrant activists briefly interrupted the Republican presidential candidate as Trump launched into an anti-immigrant tirade about giving “free stuff” to “illegal immigrants.”

During his speech, Trump referenced this week’s Democratic presidential debate, when candidates like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders discussed their positions on providing services to undocumented immigrants. “They just couldn’t give away things fast enough,” Trump said. “They want heath care for illegal immigrants. They want drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. They want, listen to this, Social Security for illegal immigrants.”

At that point, progressive activists began loudly protesting, but a small group of Trump supporters drowned them out. Local CBS reporter Garrett Haake recorded an encounter in which a blue-shirted Trump supporter repeatedly shouted “**** you” to the activists and spat in the face of one man before walking away.


Since June, when Trump first launched his campaign by suggesting that Mexican immigrants are rapists, criminals, or drug dealers, he has consistently generated the most applause from broadly condemning the immigrant community. But his charged political rhetoric is having real-life consequences.

By now, incidents like this at Trump rallies are becoming routine. In fact, his supporters have spit on immigrant activists in the past.

Trump supporters have told immigrant activists to “clean my hotel room, *****;” shouted “if it ain’t white, it ain’t right” while ripping up posters; told Latino U.S. citizens to “go home” while grabbing their hair and spitting on them; told prominent journalist and U.S. citizen Jorge Ramos to “get out of my country;” joked “you can shoot all the people you want that cross illegally;” and beat up and urinated on the homeless. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg of incidents against Latinos.

There’s some evidence to back up this phenomenon. A slew of behavioral psychology studies have found that xenophobic rhetoric can and will embolden supporters to normalize racism.

A 1980 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that when participants were given favorable and unfavorable information about in-group and out-group members, they were more likely to remember the unfavorable information about the out-group members. A 2001 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that when people consider others as part of a general group, rather than as individuals, they may have greater feelings of fear and lower levels of trust in their interactions with them. And a 2004 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that exposure to “disparagement humor” that denigrates, belittles, or maligns an individual or social group “increases tolerance of discriminatory events for people high in prejudice toward the disparaged group.” The study also found that it “expands the bounds of appropriate conduct, creating a norm of tolerance of discrimination.”

And even if science hasn’t done enough to prove that xenophobic rhetoric can change attitudes about immigrants, there’s always historical evidence. It happened when right-wing extremism emerged in eastern Germany. It happened when Japan failed to acknowledge its role in the genocide and forced prostitution that took place during World War II. And now it appears that Trump’s rhetoric is making it acceptable for supporters to feel justified in treating immigrant advocates with vehemence.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Official October Electoral Map: gloom for Dems, joy for TRUMP

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Based on an average of the RCP polling data from all the states and all the “head to head” matchups between Donald Trump (by far the winner of the GOP) and Hillary Clinton (The winner of the Democratic Party) shows bad news for the Democrats.

Clinton is losing handily in all the swing states, and is even losing Democrat strongholds of Maryland, Connecticut, and Oregon.



According to many polls, and the averages, Clinton cannot even hold on to California and New York without a major fight. On the bright side for the Democrat party, they make gains in the south as Obama is now off the ticket.



Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton by 5 percentage points nationwide: getting 52% and Clinton gathering 47%


http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/15/official-october-electoral-map-gloom-for-dems- joy-for-trump/
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Yes I believe Trump is ahead in the polls. There is so much pent up anger in our country about nothing getting done and along comes a very successful man who says that he has a track record for doing things successfully.


I was even thinking of voting for trump and I still may. The only thing that is stopping me now is things keep popping up that make a pattern of other historical events in the past.
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Posted by raybond on :
 
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) ratcheted up his criticism of real-estate magnate Donald Trump in a new interview released Friday.

Romney, the Republican 2012 presidential nominee, discussed Trump during a wide-ranging interview with David Axelrod, who, as President Barack Obama's top campaign adviser, helped defeat Romney three years ago.

"I think Donald Trump has said a number of things which are hurtful — and he has said that they were 'childish' in some respects — and I think [they] will be potentially problematic either in the primary or a general election," Romney said.

"And they relate to things he's said about women, and things he's said about members of the news media, things he's said about Hispanics," he added. "I think he'll have some challenges if he proceeds to the next stage."

As a Republican presidential candidate in 2012, Romney went out of his way to secure Trump's endorsement. But as Trump has risen to become the Republican 2016 front-runner, Romney has let it be known that he shares the GOP's establishment's disdain for Trump's candidacy.

Last month, Romney predicted that Trump won't win the Republican nomination because the business mogul isn't a "mainstream conservative ... who has a foundation in foreign policy that gives people confidence that they can guide the ship of state in troubled waters."

Speaking with Axelrod, Romney further predicted that Trump's heated remarks about illegal immigration could create obstacles for whomever their party nominates next year. Trump frequently accuses the Mexican government of sending "rapists" and other criminals across the US border.

"Donald Trump has a big megaphone, and I think that some of the things he's said, particularly about Hispanics, will be problematic — certainly for him if he were to go to the next stage — but for whoever our nominee is," Romney said.

However, Romney suggested that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), who has a Mexican-American wife and speaks Spanish, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida), a Cuban-American who is also fluent in Spanish, could deflect those concerns among Hispanic voters in the general election.

"Now, if our nominee happened to be someone like Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush, who have strong Hispanic roots themselves and connections themselves, that might not be as big an issue. But if it were someone else who didn't have those connections, why, it could probably remain as a shadow over their campaign," he said.

For his part, Trump frequently blasts Romney on Twitter for losing the election to Obama
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
middleweight …

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump likes to boast about his enormous wealth and how he doesn't need anyone else's money to pay for his presidential campaign. That hasn't stopped tens of thousands of people from chipping in with checks as small as $10 to let the Republican candidate know they're behind him.


Trump has taken in 73,942 contributions, a total that surpasses several of GOP rivals, despite the billionaire businessman's early pledge to finance his own campaign. Financial reports filed last week also show that more than 70 percent of the $3.9 million he raised from July through September came from people giving $200 or less. That rate of small-donor contributions is second only to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who's in the Democratic race.

The average Trump contribution was $50.46, his campaign said.

The contributors are in small towns, suburbs and big cities. He's raised money from hundreds of retirees, ranchers, dentists, physicians, real estate executives and financial consultants.

SLIDESHOW: Donald Trump through the years >>

For Ansley Pascoli, 64, a retiree in Sandy Springs, Georgia, the money is intended as a symbol of support. She gave the Trump campaign $25 and bought several hats and T-shirts, one of which she was wearing Friday.

"One of my reasons for wanting to support him is that even though I know that he does have a lot of money, I don't feel that it's right for him to have to bear the burden," she said in a telephone interview when asked why she was giving money to someone who has bragged about not needing campaign cash.

"And even though my contribution was small, I want him to have the feeling that there are other people that are behind him," she said.


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It was a sentiment expressed by many of those who appear on Trump's contributor list and is evidence of the passion he has elicited from voters angry over the country's direction and craving a political outsider.

Pascoli said she was drawn to Trump because of his hard-line stance on immigration, his business background and the fact he's not a product of the political system.

"I really think we are in a pivotal time for the country and we need somebody who has the type of skill set that he has," she said.

Stephan Robinson, a commercial real estate broker in Pearland, Texas, said he contributed $250 because he felt an obligation to help.

"If you support a candidate, it shouldn't matter how much money he's got," Robinson said. "He shouldn't have to spend all his money."

Robinson went on: "I know he doesn't need my money and the little bit of money I've sent, it's not going to make a big difference. But I just feel in good conscience, that if you support somebody, you should contribute to help offset some of his costs." Robinson also offered to volunteer and provide office space if the campaign wants to come to town. He's given money to another Republican in the race — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

Illinois retiree Beverly Perlson, who's from a military family, said she was immediately drawn to Trump because of his attention to veterans' issues and his promise to overhaul the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The first time she heard him speak about the issue, she said, "I absolutely fell in love with Donald Trump at that moment."

Her recent $100 contribution was intended to say thank you. "My heart rejoiced because he's honestly the first person who stood up for our troops, our veterans," she said.

While Trump originally denounced the idea of contributions, he appeared to warm to the idea over the summer. His campaign now makes it easy to give, with a prominent "Donate" Button" on his website. The site also offers an online store full of campaign gear, such as $30 hats with Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan and $50 sweatshirts.

The latest filings show that the vast majority of Trump's campaign expenses in the last quarter were financed by contributions, not by Trump himself.

Trump's campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said in August that the campaign had received tens of thousands in small-dollar donations, but contributions would remain "a very small portion" of the campaign's funds. He did not respond to questions Friday about the extent to which the campaign's calculus had changed.

Many of the logged contributions reflect purchases from the website. Elle Koch, a semiretired business owner from Cincinnati, Ohio, made a hooded sweatshirt and bumper sticker purchase.

Koch, a frequent phone-banker, would like an eventual role with the campaign. She said she wasn't surprised by the large number of contributions.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
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By Steve Benen


For three months, we’ve all heard all kinds of assumptions about Donald Trump’s Republican presidential campaign. He’d peaked. His act had worn thin. His lead was simply unsustainable.








The Rachel Maddow Show, 10/19/15, 10:43 PM ET

Donald Trump solidifies Republican primary lead in latest polls


And yet, the latest polling continues to speak for itself. Consider the results of the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey, released last night.


1. Donald Trump: 25% (up four points from September)

2. Ben Carson: 22% (up two points)

3. Marco Rubio: 13% (up two points)

4. Ted Cruz: 9% (up four points)

5. Jeb Bush: 8% (up one point)

6. Carly Fiorina: 7% (down four points)



The remaining candidates are at 3% or lower, including Chris Christie, who has seen his support steadily drop in recent months, falling to just 1% in this poll. Trump’s 25% showing, meanwhile, represents the strongest support any GOP candidate has in any NBC/WSJ poll this year.



A new CNN poll offers similar results:



1. Donald Trump: 27% (up three points from September)

2. Ben Carson: 22% (up eight points)

3. Jeb Bush: 8% (down one point)

3. Marco Rubio: 8% (down three points)



The remaining candidates are at 5% or lower. Fiorina, in particular, has seen her standing collapse, dropping from 15% to 4% in the CNN poll just over the course of one month.



Regardless, the burning question in Republican circles is starting to shift from “When will Trump falter?” to “What if he doesn’t?”




As Rachel noted on the show last night, National Review published a striking piece yesterday noting that the GOP establishment, long confident that Trump’s backing would be fleeting, is starting to reevaluate its assumptions.


It began as whispers in hushed corners: Could it ever happen? And now, just three months from the Iowa caucuses, members of the Republican establishment are starting to give voice to an increasingly common belief that Donald Trump, once dismissed as joke, a carnival barker, and a circus freak, might very well win the nomination.



“Trump is a serious player for the nomination at this time,” says Ed Rollins, who served as the national campaign director for Reagan’s 1984 reelection and as campaign chairman for Mike Huckabee in 2008.

The same piece quoted Steve Schmidt, an MSNBC political analyst who managed John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, saying, “Trump has sustained a lead for longer than there are days left” before voting begins in Iowa.



This isn’t to say Trump is necessarily the likely nominee; plenty of candidates who were ahead in the October before the primaries have seen those leads evaporate.



But ask yourself this: if you removed the names from the poll results and look solely at the numbers, how quick would you be to dismiss the one candidate who’s stood atop every poll for the last three months?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush shouldn't be running the country if he can't even run his own campaign.

Trump was in Jacksonville on Saturday, the day after the Bush campaign announced staff trims and 40 percent pay cuts for those who remain. He said Bush, the son and brother of former presidents, is embarrassing his family.

Trump said he's only spent a couple of million dollars on his campaign and is leading in the polls. He said spending less and getting more is what the country should be doing.

Thousands of raucous supporters cheered Trump in Bush's home state during a riverfront rally. Trump also made fun of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, saying he's out of money and "sweating like a dog."
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Trump is getting better and better. What a perfect reply for Jeb running out of money.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
It seems the idiot establishment is choosing Rubio.

Understandable. Rubio (what I've seen of him) seems to be a forceful speaker. He has "presence ".

He is also a bought and paid for shill/soldier of the establishment... as are all the others... Except maybe Trump?

In the coming months watch as Carson is sidelined and Rubio advances...

Remember my prediction that the next Prez will be seen as a strong foreign policy/strong leader type much like the Clinton/Bush transition..
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson passed real-estate tycoon Donald Trump in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll published Monday evening.

In the survey of Republican presidential primary voters, Carson grabbed 29% while Trump got 23%.

The results followed last week's CBS News/New York Times poll that found Carson ahead, which broke Trump's months-long winning streak in national surveys.

The Times reported that Carson's position in the NBC/WSJ poll on Monday "is the highest any Republican candidate has reached in that survey."

However, pollster Fred Yang, whose firm conducted the poll, struck a cautious note. Yang said that Carson "has broad support, but we don't know yet the depth and commitment of that support."

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) got third place in the poll, with 11%, followed by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), with 10%, and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), with 8%. No other candidate had more than 3%.

For his part, Carson celebrated the results on Facebook.

"We the People continue to surge!" Carson wrote next to an image blaring: "BEN'S ON TOP!"
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Donald Trump has fired off one of his most furious tweetstorms to date.

The real-estate magnate's target on Thursday night: Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, a Republican presidential rival.

Politico reported earlier in the evening that a pro-Kasich super PAC was planning to unload $2.5 million or more to take down Trump, the Republican front-runner, in New Hampshire.

This prompted a dozen-tweet barrage by Trump against Kasich, ripping the PAC's attack as "pathetic" and calling the governor a "dud" over the report, among many other things.

"I want to do negative ads on John Kasich, but he is so irrelevant to the race that I don’t want to waste my money," Trump said.

"Watch Kasich squirm --- if he is not truthful in his negative ads I will sue him just for fun!" he continued.

The billionaire apparently took his threat beyond Twitter. The super PAC, New Day for America, published a letter from The Trump Organization's lawyer warning that Trump would promptly seek "legal action" against the committee if its ads lied about Trump.

"It has come to my attention that you plan on producing and disseminating certain radio, television, and newspaper advertisements directly and personally attacking my client," Trump's lawyer, Alan Garten, wrote in the letter, which was also addressed to the Kasich campaign.

"Please be advised that in the event your ads contain any false, misleading, defamatory or otherwise tortious statements or representations concerning Mr. Trump's business or his brand, we will not hesitate to seek immediate legal action," it continued.

The letter concluded: "Please be guided accordingly."

The letter was similar in nature to a September cease-in-desist letter The Trump Organization sent to a conservative group, the Club for Growth, that ran attack ads against Trump in Iowa. Some eyebrows were raised because the letter was sent from Trump's corporation rather than from his campaign.

Matt David, New Day for America's chief strategist, responded to Trump's letter in a statement late Thursday.

"Mr. Trump's been successful in suing his way to financial gain," David said. "Unfortunately, you can't sue your way to the Oval Office."

"Trump can hire every trial lawyer in the country, but voters will ultimately decide this election," he continued. "You can't sue ISIS away. Suing Vladimir Putin won't evict Russia from the Ukraine. The role of commander-in-chief requires leadership, not lawyers."

Business Insider reached out to The Trump Organization for comment.

For his part, Kasich went on his own rival tweetstorm and issued a fund-raising message to supporters on Trump's "epic Twitter rant."
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
Funny because the last 4 elections have been decided by Diebold, not voters.

Can't wait.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Real-estate magnate Donald Trump is the "undisputed leader" of the Republican presidential field, and his lead has grown over the past month while retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has plummeted.

Trump is the first choice of 27% of Republican primary voters nationally, according to a new survey from Quinnipiac University out Wednesday. It's his best showing in the poll since August and a 3-point increase from last month.

Carson, who was 1 point behind Trump last month, has seen his standing plunge to 16%. That puts him in a tie for third place with Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.

Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, who along with Cruz has surged recently, found himself in second place in the poll with 17% support. Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida rounds out the top five, garnering 5% in the survey.

"It doesn't seem to matter what he says or who he offends, whether the facts are contested or the 'political correctness' is challenged, Donald Trump seems to be wearing Kevlar," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University poll.

"Dr. Ben Carson, moving to center stage just one month ago, now needs some CPR. The Doctor sinks. The Donald soars. The GOP, 11 months from the election, has to be thinking, 'This could be the guy.'"

Indeed, Republican leaders seem to be increasingly bracing for the possibility that Trump could be the party's standard bearer next year. The New York Times reported Tuesday that the party was starting to become concerned that Trump as the nominee would negatively affect the GOP's down-ballot candidates.

"It would be an utter, complete and total disaster," Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a presidential rival who has repeatedly tangled with Trump, told The Times. "If you're a xenophobic, race-baiting, religious bigot, you're going to have a hard time being president of the United States, and you're going to do irreparable damage to the party."

Carson, meanwhile, has seen his standing tumble as he has faced a slew of negative publicity in recent weeks. Most recently, questions about his foreign-policy knowledge placed him under days of scrutiny.

The poll found, however, that the race is still highly volatile two months away from the Iowa caucuses. Just 32% of Republican primary voters said their minds were "made up" about their voting choice, while 65% said they could change their mind.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Over a third of registered Republican and Republican-leaning voters would vote for Donald Trump -- a wide margin over the rest of the GOP field, according to a new poll released Friday.



The CNN/ORC survey shows Trump's campaign muscle: He has 36 percent of support among poll respondents, 20 points ahead of his nearest competitor. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, in second place, trails Trump with 16 percent of those surveyed favoring him. Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson comes in at 14 percent, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12 percent. No other candidate breaks a 5 percent threshold.

Since the last CNN/ORC poll in October, some candidates have seen a steep decline in national support. Carson lost 8 points from the previous survey, when he had registered in second place. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is down 5 points to 3 percent, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is down 4 points to 1 percent of support.

The real estate mogul also dominates when it comes to issues voters identify as most important to them. Survey respondents said Trump was best qualified to handle the economy at an overwhelming 55 percent (Cruz is next with 9 percent), along with illegal immigration, ISIS threats, foreign policy, and the federal budget.

A majority of Republican voters (52 percent) also point to Trump as the GOP hopeful with the best chances to win November's general election. Fifteen percent believe that of Rubio, 11 percent for Cruz, and 10 percent for Carson.

The poll was taken before Wednesday's San Bernardino shooting, from November 27 - December 1, 2015. The margin of error is 3 percentage points.
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Posted by Happy Valley on :
 
Trump/Cruz will be the GOP ticket...JMO
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Happy Valley:
Trump/Cruz will be the GOP ticket...JMO

Id definitely take that over Hillary Clinton. After 8 years of crap load after crap load...Trump and Cruz would get some things done. Im not on the trump train by any means, because I worry about what he would do for executive actions. He gave a good interview on Alex Jones. Worth the watch if you have time. Cruz is extremely intelligent. A much better student of law than what we have.


The country is a mess right now.
 
Posted by Happy Valley on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:
Originally posted by Happy Valley:
Trump/Cruz will be the GOP ticket...JMO

Id definitely take that over Hillary Clinton. After 8 years of crap load after crap load...Trump and Cruz would get some things done. Im not on the trump train by any means, because I worry about what he would do for executive actions. He gave a good interview on Alex Jones. Worth the watch if you have time. Cruz is extremely intelligent. A much better student of law than what we have.


The country is a mess right now.

I agree and like yourself, I'm not a Trump fan boy by any means. I share some of your concerns regarding executive actions but I think he is smart enough to surround himself with people that will compensate for whatever shortcomings he may or may not have. I think you can say that about every candidate, on both sides. They all have areas they excel at and areas they may not be as polished. Trump didn't get to where he is by himself, successful people generally understand the necessity of surrounding themselves with people that are equally as successful in their area of expertise.

As for Cruz, I've always liked him. Very intelligent and extremely quick on his feet. Rarely does anybody take shots at Cruz on the debate stage, I don't think they they want to get in a battle of wits with him. More importantly, he defends the Constitution and the 2A in particular. Love watching him destroy liberal fools like Dianne Feinsten and talking head media members over the true meaning of the 2A.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
The country definitely needs repaired. All this gun phobia is out of control...actually its called hoplophobia, the fear of guns. Notice Obama doesnt ever talk about really solving the problems when it comes to violence. The riots, the protests, all the black lives matter bull**** going on. Marching and beating drums chanting they want dead cops in cities across the country. A slimy attorney general, most likely worse than Eric Holder. They got the New York Times running articles about turning in guns for the greater good.

You get people like ray or jordan who foam at the mouth for these kinds of Democrats to be in power over them. No transparency, no following the law, no over-watch. Things need to change, and I am LOVING the fact that establishment Republicans are freaking out over Trump. Im so sick of them too. You know, the Karl Rove types.

And back to Cruz, he is the REAL Harvard law. Not some slick snake oil salesman like Obama is. Id love to see Cruz debate Hillary Clinton.
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
The one thing that we can be sure of is that a lot of Americans are tired of what has been going on for quite some time.

It appears neither major party can change our minds and have made some major mistakes in underestimating the American public.

Of course we will see if they can figure a way to sidestep major issues before election time, which so far has not happened.

To bad we need such an extreme way to try and wake up our elected, so called representatives.

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Posted by raybond on :
 
You get people like ray or jordan who foam at the mouth for these kinds of Democrats to be in power over them. No transparency, no following the law, no over-watch. Things need to change, and I am LOVING the fact that establishment Republicans are freaking out over Trump. Im so sick of them too. You know, the Karl Rove types.

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again a total fabrication on your part
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
You get people like ray or jordan who foam at the mouth for these kinds of Democrats to be in power over them. No transparency, no following the law, no over-watch. Things need to change, and I am LOVING the fact that establishment Republicans are freaking out over Trump. Im so sick of them too. You know, the Karl Rove types.

posted by cash

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again a total fabrication on your part

Really?

Then where is the foam coming from... Nevermind. I don't want to know.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Real-estate mogul Donald Trump has opened up his lead among Republican primary voters to nearly 20 points, according to a New York Times/CBS poll out Thursday.
Trump garnered the support of 35% of Republican voters nationally, a 13-point increase from the previous New York Times/CBS survey. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, at 16%, and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, at 13%, were his closest competitors. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida was in fourth place, at 9%.

The Times noted that it was Trump’s “strongest position yet” in the survey.

The poll was mostly conducted before Trump’s statement on Monday pledging to temporarily bar Muslims from entering the US. Those comments have caused a firestorm both within and outside the Republican Party.

Other polls, however, have already signaled that Trump may benefit from his proposal. A Bloomberg Politics survey released Wednesday found that nearly two-thirds of Republican primary voters backed his plan. And a Fox News poll of South Carolina Republicans found Trump gaining support in the days after announcing the proposal.

In the previous Times/CBS survey, taken in late October, Trump trailed Carson 26% to 22%. Cruz has nearly tripled his support from October, while Rubio’s support remained flat.

All other Republican candidates in Thursday’s poll received 4% or less support. On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had a 20-point lead over her closest rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont).
 
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Honey Badger
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
I said on this board that the delegates might not let Trump to be nominated. Now there is talk of that.


Republican leaders don’t want to make America great again.

Leading Republicans, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus met Monday to discuss how the party could “lay the groundwork for a floor fight in which the GOP’s mainstream wing could coalesce around an alternative,” according to the Washington Post’s Robert Costa and Tom Hamburger. With many candidates still in the race, and Trump commanding a strong plurality — but nowhere near a majority — in the polls, it’s easy to imagine a scenario where Trump wins more primary votes than any other candidate but still lacks enough delegates to lock up the nomination. Indeed, the delegate math seems to favor the establishment.

The Party’s Rules

The GOP uses an arcane and multi-faceted method to allocate delegates to each state. Each state receives 10 at-large delegates, plus three delegates for each of the state’s congressional districts. A set number of delegates are also allocated to regions like the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. And three party leaders from each jurisdiction are also designated as delegates.

The party’s rules then award a significant number of bonus delegates to states that supported the Republican Party’s nominee in the previous presidential election, as well as smaller bonuses to states with Republican governors, senators, House delegations and state legislative majorities. As a result, deep red states can rack up bonuses that give them delegate counts out of proportion to their population. The red state of Mississippi, a state with less than 3 million people, will send 40 delegates to the Republican National Convention. Meanwhile, the swing state of Colorado, which has nearly 5.4 million people, will only send 37 delegates to the party’s convention.

In total, 2,472 delegates will meet in Cleveland to select the party’s nominee. That means that a candidate needs 1,237 delegates (50 percent +1) in order to capture the nomination.

Trump’s biggest asset is winner-take-all states. So long as he captures a plurality of the vote in these states, he wins every delegate that is up for grabs in the state. Although the GOP’s rules require states that wish to hold a winner-take-all contest to schedule their primary or caucus no sooner than March 15, eleven states and territories will have such a contest. Additionally, a handful of states allocate some portion of their delegates to the winner of the state as a whole. In total, Trump could win about 500 delegates in states that award a bloc of delegates to the candidate who wins a plurality of the vote.

Even if Trump captures every single one of these delegates, however, he would still need to capture over 700 of the nearly 2,000 remaining delegates in order to emerge as the nominee, and here is where the math gets much more difficult for him. Even if he captures every single delegate awarded to candidates who win a plurality of the votes in a state, he would still need to win approximately 37 percent of the remaining delegates to capture the nomination — under the various and often complex rules that each state uses to allocate these delegates. Currently, the Real Clear Politics polling average shows Trump leading the GOP field with about 30 percent of the vote, so his current polls likely do not give him enough support to capture the nomination outright.

Additionally, it’s worth noting that not every delegate is “bound” to support the candidate they pledged to support prior to the convention, and the three party leaders from each state are especially likely to have the freedom to back a candidate of their own choosing. These leaders may be the most likely delegates to support an establishment coup seeking to dislodge Trump.

Wild Cards

So the math for Trump is rough, although there are a few wild cards that work in his favor. The first is that, although the GOP gives bonus delegates to states with a record of supporting Republicans, other features of the party’s nominating process give an unexpected advantage to Republicans who live in blue areas of the country.

As David Wasserman explains at Five Thirty Eight, the fact that each congressional district receives three delegates regardless of how red or blue the district may be gives a boost to Republican primary voters living in blue states that select delegates at the district level. “Three delegates are up for grabs in New York’s heavily Latino, Bronx-based 15th District,” Wasserman explains, “which cast just 5,315 votes for Romney in 2012.” Meanwhile, “there are also three delegates at stake in Alabama’s 6th District, which covers Birmingham’s whitest suburbs and gave Romney 233,803 votes.” As a result, “a GOP primary vote cast in the bluest part of the Bronx could be worth 43 times more than a vote cast in the reddest part of Alabama.”

Wasserman argues that this phenomenon puts Trump at a disadvantage, because it inflates the importance of votes cast by primary voters in more moderate regions of the country. But even if it is true that a Republican in the Bronx is more likely to hold moderate views than a Republican in Alabama, it’s not at all clear that this factor cuts against Trump. To the contrary, multiple polls have shown Trump polling strongest among self-identified moderate and liberal Republicans. A recent Quinnipiac poll, for example, showed Trump earning only 25 percent of “very conservative” Republicans, a showing that placed him four points behind conservative stalwart Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) among these unusually conservative voters. The same poll showed Trump earning 31 percent of “moderate” or “liberal” Republicans. So if the GOP delegate selection process gives extra say to self-described moderates, that appears to place Trump at an advantage.

And then there’s the biggest wildcard of all — rebellion. On Friday morning, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson offered a sharp response to Republican leaders who hope to deny Trump the nomination at the convention. “If this was the beginning of a plan to subvert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite,” Carson said in a statement, “I assure you that Donald Trump will not be the only one leaving the party.” Meanwhile, Trump himself recently tweeted a message that’s hard to read as anything other than a threat to undercut the GOP presidential candidate in 2016 in the exact same way that Ralph Nader helped put George W. Bush in the White House in 2000:
 
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Brokered convention


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In United States politics, a brokered convention is a situation in which no single candidate has secured a pre-existing majority of delegates (whether those selected by primary elections and caucuses, or superdelegates) prior to the first official vote for a political party's presidential candidate at its nominating convention.

Once the first ballot, or vote, has occurred, and no candidate has a majority of the delegates' votes, the convention is then considered brokered; thereafter, the nomination is decided through a process of alternating political horse-trading, and additional re-votes.[1][2][3][4] In this circumstance, all regular delegates (who, previously, may have been pledged to a particular candidate according to rules which vary from state to state) are "released," and are able to switch their allegiance to a different candidate before the next round of balloting. It is hoped that this 'freedom' will result in a re-vote resulting in a clear majority of delegates for one candidate.

Superdelegate votes are counted on the first ballot. Although the term "brokered convention" is sometimes used to refer to a convention where the outcome is decided by superdelegate votes rather than pledged delegates alone, this is not the original sense of the term. Like a brokered convention, the potentially decisive role played by superdelegates can often go against the popular vote from the primaries and caucuses


still looking for fair play anybody
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the delegates might not let Trump to be nominated. Now there is talk of that.

that's how China does it.

i have only one response to the idea of a brokered convention by either party. esp. if the cnadidates are BOTH internally picked by the party (the Clinton's have already decided who the Democrats will pick). It doesn't seem to matter much to most people anymore that we are becoming mor elike China than they are becoming more like US.

last one out be sure to turn off the lights (if they are still working that is)

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Honey Badger

That video is hilarious...thanks for the laugh RD
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/videos/10153764899572464/?theater
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Politics

Donald Trump just jumped to his highest point yet in a new poll
Colin Campbell,Business Insider 2 hours 22 minutes ago .


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Donald Trump.
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump's campaign isn't slowing down, at least when it comes to national polling.

In a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll published Thursday, Trump reached his highest number yet in that survey.

The poll found that Trump was the top choice of 33% of Republican primary voters.

That gave him a 13-point lead over the No. 2. Republican, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who had 20% support.

NBC News reported that Trump's margin over Cruz sharply increased since last month, when the same poll found five points separating the two candidates.

In the survey released Thursday, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida) was the first choice of 13% of primary voters, followed by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson's 12%. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) both had 5%, while no other candidate had more than 3%.

Although Trump is dominant in national polls, the first state to weigh in on the primary, Iowa, is not as friendly turf for the real-estate mogul. Cruz has placed first in a number of recent surveys of likely Iowa caucus-goers, who cast their votes on February 1.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
This is what lost the Trump the Christian vote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EIgHsGZAmk
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
This is what lost the Trump the Christian vote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EIgHsGZAmk

Oh that was so hard to watch. Very hard. Two Corinthians? Then the Sarah Palin endorsement speech...again hard to watch.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Hahahaha. Did she sabotage that, or what?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Sarah Plain what a ditz, I listen to that idiot and I am glad that she is a republican. She belongs in a laundromat holding a republican rally.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Sarah Plain what a ditz, I listen to that idiot and I am glad that she is a republican. She belongs in a laundromat holding a republican rally.

I wasn't sure if it was Sarah or Howard Dean? lol What a joke.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
The screeching voice is enough to melt asphalt.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
MOINES (Reuters) - Republican front-runner candidate Donald Trump has a big lead in the race for the 2016 presidential nomination nationally, swamping his opponents with a 40.6 percent share of those surveyed, a Reuters-Ipsos tracking poll found on Friday.

The survey of 582 respondents found Trump with a higher percentage of the vote than his next four challengers combined, with Texas Senator Ted Cruz drawing 10.5 percent, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson with 9.7 percent, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush at 9.2 percent and Florida Senator Marco Rubio with 7.2 percent.

In a hypothetical matchup between Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton and Trump, Clinton holds a statistically insignificant lead of 41.4 percent to 40.8 percent.

Trump has been leading national polls of Republican voters for months. He also holds a lead in some polls in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire with the Iowa caucuses just days away on Feb. 1.

A separate Reuters-Ipsos poll on Friday found the U.S. economy re-emerging as a major concern for voters. Economic concerns had taken a back seat to fears of terrorism after last year's Islamic State attacks in Paris.

The survey of 1,614 respondents found terrorism a top concern at 20.3 percent, but the U.S. economy close behind at 18.2 percent.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Hahahaha. Did she sabotage that, or what?

I watched most of the speech. Saw Trump with the fakest grin I have seen on him I think. He wouldnt have that doing a presentation in his boardroom. Why would he for President? He must really want to get the evangelical vote, and as much away from cruz as he can. There is a split among conservatives right now. Beck, Palin, Levin, Limbaugh, National Review and everyone behind that article. Its all boiling down to Cruz and Trump. Everyone else is done, and after Iowa I would HOPE some finally get out.

Who in their right mind would donate 6 or 7 figures to the Jeb Bush campaign? Carson too.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I agree. No matter who is elected, Ben Carson has Surgeon General locked up, and Trey Gowdy has AG locked up.
I want Cruz to win, main reason is that about 4 Supreme Court Justice seats are coming up for this next president. It worries me to think what that would mean if Trump were elected to office.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
WASHINGTON – Donald Trump is thumping Ted Cruz by double digits in a new Iowa poll, while Bernie Sanders has grabbed a significant lead from Hillary Clinton among Democrats likely to caucus in the state.

Trump, who has been neck-and-neck with Cruz in recent Iowa GOP surveys, now leads the Texas senator 37 percent to 26 percent, with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at with 14 percent, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Thursday.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Cruz has been very critical of New York morality, meaning the south is the moral bastion of the country. Here is a brief of what like would be like if the south had a firm dominant position over the country.


The association of North with modernity and South with regression is so prominent, so visible, so all-encompassing that its familiarity has made it invisible. Here are the facts—with important exceptions in every category. The great research universities are in the blue states. So are the great medical schools, the great hospitals, and the great law schools. The great art and history museums are in the blue part of the country.


The most important popular and “high” art is produced by blue people, in blue places. Even the best comedians—with the exception of Stephen Colbert—are, you might say, from free as opposed to slave states.


By contrast, the South leads in all the negative trends. The South has the highest infant mortality rate. It has the most traffic deaths. It leads the country in gun deaths. It has the greatest number of obese people. It has the highest rate of diabetes. It has the largest number of people dying from stroke—a broad swath of the southeastern United States is known as the “stroke belt.” The South has the highest rates of cognitive decline.


Interestingly, though the South is home to the major tobacco companies and to carcinogenic Coca-Cola, the highest incidence of many types of cancer happens to be in the North. Which just proves that the stress of living alongside the Confederacy is now seriously affecting our health.


And the country’s great, recent Southern presidents? Jimmy Carter did more damage to the liberal agenda, which had been heroically advanced by that arch-fiend Richard Nixon, than any other modern president. In 1993, Arkansan Bill Clinton proposed a budget nearly devoid of social investment and almost identical to Reagan’s years earlier. Even when they find themselves in the vanguard of mainstream American politics, Southern politicians heed their atavistic instincts—and their gift for nimble expedience—and turn, like flowers straining toward the setting sun, back to the 19th century.


As for the great numbers of enlightened men and women in the South, let me cut through all the nuances of history and polemic and invite them all to flee northward. To paraphrase Swift, I am opposed to the Southern tribe as a voting, obstructing, retarding whole, but not to the countless individuals who make up the tribe, some of whom of course are exemplars of decency, humanity, wit, sophistication, and charm. Let them come north, and enrich us with their grace and charm. (And maybe if CNN moved their headquarters to New York or Philadelphia or Boston, the network could save its plummeting ratings simply by changing its employees’ diets.)
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
I live in that South ray. It's all true as far as i can tell. Fleeing is not a solution though. I've lived in alot of places now,they all have unusual problems. I urge people to come down to the south. Sell your 500,000 house and buy one even better for 250,000 here, and help fix this mess.
I feel kinda like a sailor who's boat sprang a leak, but i have to bail with a teacup when a five gallon bucket is required...
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
No insult intended glass . I have worked with people from the south and have had neighbors from the south and they were very good people. As for my own opinion we should spend the money and up lift the deep south to the same standards as the rest of the country it would take a few generations to see the results but it would be worth it.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
I've lived all over the Eastern half of the country. What Cruz is trying to say, while not saying it, is there is a difference between big city political leanings and rural less cramped areas.

His comment was aimed at taking Trump down a notch while avoiding offending all major cities voters.

As far as I can tell, his comment backfired on him. But we'll see in a few days when the primary results are in.

If Cruz can't stop Trump in Iowa, then it's over.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
I've lived all over the Eastern half of the country. What Cruz is trying to say, while not saying it, is there is a difference between big city political leanings and rural less cramped areas.

His comment was aimed at taking Trump down a notch while avoiding offending all major cities voters.

As far as I can tell, his comment backfired on him. But we'll see in a few days when the primary results are in.

If Cruz can't stop Trump in Iowa, then it's over.

Well ive always said that about two months ago I came to the acceptance that Trump will win, and the rest is just theater. I think Trump pulls higher numbers, Cruz is second, but lower turnout. NH is and will be done before its over from what it looks like. Trump smashes the polls there. Plus Cruz is going to have a hard time attracting northeast voters. Trump can get a lot of Democrats.

Trump has the black vote, and the hispanic vote. Hillary has no chance, she is in some deep trouble. Sanders doesnt have the numbers, but he has the momentum to beat Hillary.

Also, I really dont have much of a preference on trump, cruz, or rubio. I kind of like Rubio. Id vote for either three of them over hillary or sanders.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
DES MOINES, Iowa — Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton lead in the final Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll released before the Iowa caucuses. The poll released by the Des Moines Register Saturday shows Trump at 28 percent, while rival Ted Cruz has slid to 23 percent on the Republican side. In terms of the Democrats, Clinton is the top pick for 45 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers, while Sanders stands at 42 percent. ...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
I Cant wait for the results to come in and for Iowa to be over. They say Jeb Bush and John Kasich already left Iowa to get to New Hampshire. Doubt Jeb wants to stick around a state that he is doing horrible in. Trump wins Iowa, sweeps NH, and we will see how SC goes.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
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Trump: Jeb Bush 'had to bring in mommy to take a slap at me'
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In a battle that hasn't exactly been marked by its civility, the Donald Trump-Jeb Bush rivalry is taking on a whole new dimension in the closing days of the New Hampshire primary campaign. Bush, who needs a strong finish in the Granite State to revive his 2016 hopes, enlisted the help of his mother, Barbara Bush, late this week, as she hit the trail in New Hampshire with her son. While out campaigning, the 90-year-old former first lady weighed in on the New York billionaire, who leads New Hampshire polls, in an interview with CNN. Trump, not surprisingly, took to Twitter Saturday morning, calling Jeb Bush's campaign "a total disaster." He then added that Bush "had to bring in mommy to take a slap at me. ...
 
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Trump Threatens Independent Run If RNC Doesn’t Condemn Cruz’s Attacks

by Emily Atkin Feb 15, 2016 3:10 pm


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds his pledge during a news conference, at Trump Tower in New York, Thursday, Sept. 3, 2015. Trump ruled out the prospect of a third-party White House bid and vowed to support the Republican Party's nominee, whoever it may be.


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Donald Trump is again hinting at a possible independent run for president if the Republican National Committee (RNC) doesn’t condemn Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his recent barrage of political attacks against the billionaire.

On Monday, Trump said that the RNC would be “in default of their pledge to me” if they don’t rebuke Cruz for his attacks, which include a recent ad stating Trump would appoint Supreme Court justices who would erase the Second Amendment. Watch:


Cruz has also recently accused Trump of “pretending to be a Republican;” of being in favor of Obamacare; and of being in favor of abortion.

“Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign,” Trump said on Tuesday.

Now, Trump says the RNC must denounce Cruz’s attacks, or be in violation of the loyalty pledge he signed in September. Under that pledge, Trump promised the RNC that he would not run for president as an independent if he doesn’t win the party’s nomination. In return, the RNC apparently promised Trump that they would treat him “fairly.”

“The RNC is in default,” Trump said during a press conference on Tuesday. “When somebody’s in default, that means the other side can do what they have to do. … We’ve warned them twice, and they don’t listen.”

“The bottom line is, the RNC is controlled by the establishment,” he added. “That’s why the Republican party for president has lost so much for so long.”

If Trump does decide to back out of the pledge, there would likely be no legal repercussions. As University of Virginia Center for Politics political analyst Kyle Kondik explained to ThinkProgress back in September, the pledge was not a legally enforceable contract. “It’s like the sort of pledge you get your kids to sign that they will do their homework, make their beds and eat their vegetables before they can play with your iPhone,” the Washington Post wrote at the time. “It’s a statement of intention, but not a binding one.”

The text of Trump’s full statement on Tuesday is pasted below (emphasis added):


Ted Cruz is a totally unstable individual. He is the single biggest liar I’ve ever come across, in politics or otherwise, and I have seen some of the best of them. His statements are totally untrue and completely outrageous. It is hard to believe a person who proclaims to be a Christian could be so dishonest and lie so much.

Cruz said I would be appointing a liberal judge when in fact I will appoint a great conservative and I am the only candidate who has gone so far, at the debate, as to suggest two individuals I feel would best represent the conservative values we need to protect: William “Bill” Pryor Jr. and Diane Sykes.

Cruz says I am pro-choice, when in fact I am staunchly pro-life and have been for a long time. Like Ronald Reagan, on many issues, I have evolved.

Cruz says I am in favor of ObamaCare, when in fact I have spoken about repealing and replacing this disaster of a system at every speech throughout my campaign and since it’s inception. Meanwhile, Cruz was responsible for getting Bush to put in the judge that failed to vote against ObamaCare twice.

Cruz says I will try to take away your second amendment rights, when I am one of the strongest proponents of the right to bear arms and I say so in every speech that I have made for years. I am a proud member of the NRA and so are my sons.

Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign.

In Iowa, Cruz told thousands of Ben Carson voters that Dr. Carson had left the race and to instead vote for Ted Cruz. He apologized when the race was over. Likewise, his fraudulent voter violation form sent to Iowa voters. If Ted is going to continue to lie with such desperation, I have no choice but to fight back.

One of the ways I can fight back is to bring a lawsuit against him relative to the fact that he was born in Canada and therefore cannot be President. If he doesn’t take down his false ads and retract his lies, I will do so immediately. Additionally, the RNC should intervene and if they don’t they are in default of their pledge to me.

I am the strongest on the borders and I will build a wall, and it will be a real wall. I am strongest on illegal immigration, strongest on ISIS, strongest on the military and I will take care of our Vets. I will end common core and preserve the second amendment. I will renegotiate our trade deals and bring our jobs back to our country. I am the only person who will Make America Great Again.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
This weekend will tell us a lot, Ray.

There will be lots of momentum gained, or lost.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I believe that Trump may have lost the nomination, with his performance at the SC debate.

Get ready for a Trump Independent ticket, imo.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
This is a big doozie. I guess Trump shouldn't have dropped Icahn's name just yet:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-warns-may-cut-icahn-192838440.html
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
Trump leading in 8 of the 13 next primaries. Looks like he is going to be it. I thought he would a few months ago.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Well, it's all over but the crying.

I for one am happy. I beleive you will now see a very different Trump. Unfortunately, the press will still attempt to make him look like something he is not, and he will make mistakes in his speaking that allow them to do that because he is not a professional politician.

BTW, a Rassmussen poll showed Trump can in fact beat Hillary in the national poll.

Trump got quite a few votes here at allstocks long before the media pros took him seriously. Which i noticed this morning has still not happened yet on the liberal channels.

hopefully trump modernize Conservatism into something NOT the T-Party- that was a failed experiment as proven by Cruz's running away from it to try to win the presidential nod. he couldn't run hard or fast enough to get the stink off.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
oh well trump made it . it is totally amazing the number of people he knocked off, and all of them experienced elected office holders. This has been a really good lesson in sociology.

actually his last doozie remark against the last two in the race in the republican primary, is that one was a liar with big ears and the other one eats like a slob. looks like people loved it.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Donald Trump's poll numbers are plummeting — and even the presumptive Republican nominee has acknowledged it.

In the latest RealClearPolitics average of several polls, Trump trails Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, by 5.8 points. It's a 6-point reversal from a month ago.

The fall in fortune comes after he trailed Clinton by 12 points in a Bloomberg poll released earlier this week. Polls from Reuters and CBS News showed Trump behind by 9 points and 6 points.

Trump has fallen behind Clinton in 12 consecutive polls posted to RealClearPolitics.

Less than a month ago, Trump's future was looking brighter against Clinton in their general-election matchup.

As recently as May 25, Trump led Clinton in the RCP polling average by one-fifth of a point — the first instance of the Manhattan businessman leaping ahead of Clinton in the coveted polling average.

But as Trump has taken hits for his attacks on a federal judge over his Mexican heritage and a controversial response to last weekend's terrorist attack in Orlando, Florida, his poll numbers have taken a nosedive. At 38.3%, Trump's average support in a one-on-one matchup against Clinton is the lowest it has been since August 15 — just two months after he launched his campaign.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
Companies Bow Out Of Convention And Delegates Try To Change Party Rules To Dump Trump

by Casey Quinlan Jun 18, 2016 4:21 pm


CREDIT: David J. Phillip, AP

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a rally Friday, June 17, 2016, in The Woodlands, Texas.

Even while Donald Trump moves forward as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, establishment figures in both politics and business have stepped away from the candidate. Some delegates are withdrawing support from Trump and major corporations have decided to bow out in their sponsorship or offer less to the convention this year.

A small but reportedly increasing coalition of delegates say there may be enough Republicans to unite against Trump and make changes to party rules. If they change those rules, then delegates have the ability to vote for anyone at the convention. They would be allowed to vote for someone besides Trump if it violates their moral or religious beliefs. On Thursday, at least 30 delegates from 15 states participated in a conference call on the subject, the Washington Post reported. The convention’s rules committee meets July 14 and 15. Even if the rules committee supported the proposal, a majority of convention delegates would still have to agree, the Post added. The effort is being led by a Colorado delegate who supported Ted Cruz and is a member of the party rules committee, Kendal Unruh.

At a rally in Las Vegas on Saturday, Trump acknowledged the news about delegates organizing against him and said, “So now I hear after beating them fair and square … So how would you like to have someone who wins not only 37 states and no one else was remotely close … sets an all-time record gets 14 million votes over period of nine months and gets 37 states … How would you like to be in a party where Trump wins? Where Trump keeps winning? Where Trump gets the highest ratings in history of television?” Trump commented.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
posted by cashcow

Trump has the black vote, and the hispanic vote. Hillary has no chance, she is in some deep trouble. Sanders doesnt have the numbers, but he has the momentum to beat Hillary.

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Well I like trump most likely for different reasons than most due on this board. But as things go I have never seen such a goofy summation as this post.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Nice to see that you still need me to splain thangs. Bernie's done lost the nomination, but he's affected the platform and moved it left. Not far enough, for sure. But effectively.

Trump is just straight up crazy: NOBODY can offer a good theory about his being a stoopid candidate to help Hillary.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Please remove the double post.

:-)
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
thanks for posting tex maybe cash cow will tell us how he came to his insight
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Bernie moved the talking points over, but he didn't change Hillary.

Hillary still faces the issue of lying under oath and to the American people.

I really expected Trump to change mode. I'm not seeing that. Maybe he's still waiting to be annointed.

What really shocks me is how many liberals really seem to beleive that Hillarys email thing is political.

Those who have been involved in handling any classified info are aghast. I realise that's less than 1/2 of a tenth of a percent of people, but waht she did was crime, and anyone who has ever been read in knows it, and knows that they'da been thumped hard for it.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
nice to hear from you glass. I hope you are all moved in.

I am starting to feel the same way about my choices. Trump is acting worse than ever and Hillary is a felon. Don't leave a person with much of a choice.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Considering who Donald was running against, i thought his primary run was heroic.

Hillary? in most cases, it's the coverup, but in her case, she tried hard to cover it up because she knew she needed to.

Somehow the press has convincd the average Dem. voter that using your crackberry in hostile territory is not a security breach of the highest order.

There's this thing called a stingray which law enfrocement uses to mimica cell phone tower that can open up whateever you have your cell phone linked to, like your email accounts. Guess what when her crackberry logged in to her email server, the cell phone towers she used and or the mimics she was looging inot overseas caputured her passwords keystroke for keystroke,

it's not a question of IF anybody hacked her whole mess, it's really a question of who didn't.
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:




What really shocks me is how many liberals really seem to beleive that Hillarys email thing is political.


I think Hillarys email thing WAS political...not in the sense that most dems believe that it was a witch hunt against poor misunderstood Hillary...but for the fact that the justice department let her walk.

She should be in serious legal trouble right now, yet she has been allowed to continue to run for the highest office in this country...

That my friend IS political...and the powers to be that let her off should also be charged
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
we agree buck.


something as simple as telling somebody our next port of call when i was in the Navy was actionable. i'm sure it sill is...
everybody knew that even in peacetime.....
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
What disturbs me more than the crimes that she committed is that they let her go unscathed...it just solidifies that, in reality, there is only one political party in this country and the only ones they are looking out for are themselves and their corporate handlers...

We the people should be demanding charges be brought against her...

I guess we got the government we deserve!!!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
it's not over yet. check this very old NYT article out-
Trump merely needs to begin acting like he is not a loose cannon, and he can waltz into the WH.

That's why I've become a bit alarmed at his failure to stop tweeting whatever pops into his head for instance....

(b) White House officials had not consulted any Central Intelligence Agency officials about whether to issue the pardon, and C.I.A. officials found out about it only after it was reported on television the morning of Jan. 20, just before President Bush's inauguration, the official said.

President Clinton's pardon of Mr. Deutch came as the former intelligence chief was in the midst of negotiating a plea agreement with prosecutors on charges stemming from accusations that he had mishandled classified material while director.

The Deutch pardon has not generated nearly the controversy surrounding Mr. Clinton's decision to grant clemency to the fugitive financier Marc Rich, but some members of Congress have now begun to question the decision. The chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence have sent a letter to the C.I.A. asking if officials there were consulted on the decision.

United States intelligence officials said the Deutch pardon caught them by surprise because they were expecting a possible last-minute pardon of the convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. In 1998, when Israeli leaders were pressing Mr. Clinton to grant clemency to Mr. Pollard, Mr. Tenet objected and told the president he would resign if he agreed to the Israeli demands. Mr. Clinton never did pardon Mr. Pollard.

Since Mr. Deutch's pardon, Mr. Tenet has formally revoked the former director's security clearances, officials added. Mr. Tenet had suspended the clearances in August 1999, after an investigation by the C.I.A's inspector general into Mr. Deutch's handling of classified material. (/b)

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/17/us/clinton-did-not-consult-cia-chief-on-pardon -official-says.html

it gets even better the more i dug.

Eric Holder is the one who apparently walked his pardon thru---

The problem i have with the GOP's in power right now who refuse to get behind Trump is that they may want Hillary in the oval office to campaign against-
think about it, if she gets in, they can impeach her and get all kinds of support for doing that- politics suxz....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
One other thing to consider- Hillary may not be able to work with any agency that considers it's communications confidential or above.

sure, she will be officially allowed to have access, BUT true security professionals are very skilled at dissembling- a polite way of saying they are good liars. that's part of the job description- alwys has been always will be. She'll be be hamstrung by them.
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
my opinion after a life of seeing what money does in our society and what it buys you . I say Hilary walks with a slap on the wrist.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
you man like Bill did?
 
Posted by raybond on :
 
I could be wrong but yes like Bill did. And if I was a gambler that's how I would put my money.
 


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