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Originally Posted By Relentless:
Right, because Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Bammy have done a damn fine job of keeping it nice and peaceful over there...
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I not going to disagree with that, but he is nuttier than even that George one.

Why would you ever want to allow someone like him to have access to Nukes?

So since other Presidents got us in Wars, it's again okay to send our troops in Harms Way, that's a reason?

Don't we have enough bills etc. to have learned our lesson for awhile?

There is no doubt in my mind by what he has said, that he will get us in deep in the Middle East Crap. He will do this to show up the other Presidents and Middle East leaders how important he is.

I don't care how much I liked anyone running for President, if I feel they are going to get us involved in War again, it better be for good reason not just because he can.

This dude is a real piece of work, that could care less about a good reason to do anything.

I don't know if I have ever disliked anyone running for office as much as Trump.

Maybe because I have seen him to much over the years, and maybe because i don't care for arrogent people, i am not impressed by his money, lots of people are.

There is noting new about people like him, I have been around many like him, who just like to hear themselves talk and hope someone will listen.

He definally got his wish. It's like he lost his first tooth and his wish came true... lots of attention

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OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
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Originally posted By Relentless:

OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
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Don't have any tangible reasons, really. How long a list do you need.

All anyone has to do to turn his talk into bs, is start looking in his past, that started with the article i posted.

Here is a guy talking about sending illegals back to their countries, but if he is so against them, he should start with all the businesses he owns and not employ any.

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New poll Trump up higher


• Donald Trump, 32%
• Ben Carson, 19%
• Jeb Bush, 9%
• Ted Cruz, 7%
• Mike Huckabee, 5%
• Scott Walker, 5%
• Carly Fiorina, 3%
• Rand Paul, 3%
• Marco Rubio, 3%
• Chris Christie, 2%
• John Kasich, 2%

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quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Originally posted By Relentless:

OK, so you don't like Trump and you don't really have a tangible reason. Duly noted.
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Don't have any tangible reasons, really. How long a list do you need.

All anyone has to do to turn his talk into bs, is start looking in his past, that started with the article i posted.

Here is a guy talking about sending illegals back to their countries, but if he is so against them, he should start with all the businesses he owns and not employ any.

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Did you post an article showing proof that he employs illegal immigrants?
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http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/07/hypocritical-trump-employs -illegals-to-build-d-c-hotels-3029028.html

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LOOOOOOOL!!!

You have to do better than before it's news. A well known shill site.

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He's already stated that it is possible that some of his subcontractors could have employed illegals.

Being in construction myself I can tell you I have little if any control over who they employ and no ability to verify any of it.

Please try again.

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Are you really that naive Relentless, i didn't even want to waste the time looking this up, i did it just for you.

With as many businesses as he has had, do you really think that none of them hire illegals. I forgot if they have a green card there legal.

What employer is going to admit he hires illegals?

I have worked for companies over the years that use illegals, it doesn't mean they paid them that bad.

Sorry, they were legal because they had a green card, problem was the green card might change over a period of a few years, same guy different last name, he must have gotten married.

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You're not making any sense, pal.

It's fairly clear that you did not read the article... He has stated that it is possible that some of his SUBCONTRACTORS might have employed illegals.

I deal with subcontractors all the time and can tell you I have very little control over who they hire and even less ability to verify it. I can, through contractual language, mandate that any sub bidding on work utilize e-verify. I have no ability to actually make sure they do it.

Reading the headline of a story sure is fun, but reading the actual story might be a tad more informative.

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We will go your way with it.

If i am making a hugh stand against our present policy concerning illegals, and i am running for president, i sure as hell would not be stating that my company is subbing out work that uses illegals and somehow that is okay.

I would be saying to my company and the public, i will not tolarate any company of mine subbing out jobs that uses illegals, your employees will GET the point

Like i said, i have not known any employer that says, i employ illegals, someone else hired them without my knowledge.

For some reason they have layed off of Trump so far as Raybond has stated, not sure why, maybe there just letting him put his foot way down his mouth before unleashing, we will see.

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Here is a doozie for you


https://instagram.com/p/7YV_u_mhWB/

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good=by walker you really stunk. The Donald got rid of you

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Ray I hear the gov of cali Brown has been pondering a run. Would you vote for him?

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who is cali brown and I don't vote for a gov

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quote:
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good=by walker you really stunk. The Donald got rid of you

Good riddance...How that freakin idiot ever got to the position he is in now is beyond me...Walker is a complete azz hole...

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Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:

Ray I hear the gov of cali Brown has been pondering a run. Would you vote for him?

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Hopefully he is running out of the state to some other state.

He and his dad are a real pair, much like the second Bush.

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sorry cash I just can't make up my mind they are al so good maybe you can help me.
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quote:
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who is cali brown and I don't vote for a gov

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.

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Looks like things are starting to tip in a negative direction for trump. I don't think he can halt the trend. It had to change for him sometime maybe this is it.

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posted by cash

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.

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I don't know where you are getting your info from but Jerry Brown has said he is not running this time.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
posted by cash

The GOVERNOR of cali....cali is short for California.

The governor is pondering running for President. His name is Jerry Brown.

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I don't know where you are getting your info from but Jerry Brown has said he is not running this time.

2016 will be GOP only. The writing is on the wall and has been predicted a ways out. Democrats will not win 2016.

The big fight right now is somehow defeating Trump so idiot effn Jeb can get in.

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gee ish kabibble your such a genius.
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quote:
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gee ish kabibble your such a genius.

You're a moron
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Is little ish kabibble getting upset. Did your bag of salt go down in price
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what are you babbling about?
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what is the matter ish kabibble, don't worry your partner cash [aka kichi koo ] to help you out and give toy support.
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new poll numbers


Here's a full look at where the candidates stand:
•Trump: 23%
•Carson: 13%
•Fiorina: 13%
•Rubio: 9%
•Bush: 8%
•Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): 6%
•Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky): 2%
• Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 1%

NOW WATCH: Everything you need to know about the guy who went toe-to-toe with Trump last night

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Trump Rally Turns Violent As His Supporters Push And Spit On Immigrant Advocates

by Esther Yu-Hsi Lee Oct 15, 2015 11:18am


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Donald Trump supporters are not just passionate about his anti-immigrant rhetoric; they’re also living out his outrage in real-time.

A man spat in an immigrant activist’s face during a campaign rally for the Republican presidential candidate in Richmond, Virginia on Wednesday night. The incident occurred soon after immigrant activists briefly interrupted the Republican presidential candidate as Trump launched into an anti-immigrant tirade about giving “free stuff” to “illegal immigrants.”

During his speech, Trump referenced this week’s Democratic presidential debate, when candidates like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders discussed their positions on providing services to undocumented immigrants. “They just couldn’t give away things fast enough,” Trump said. “They want heath care for illegal immigrants. They want drivers licenses for illegal immigrants. They want, listen to this, Social Security for illegal immigrants.”

At that point, progressive activists began loudly protesting, but a small group of Trump supporters drowned them out. Local CBS reporter Garrett Haake recorded an encounter in which a blue-shirted Trump supporter repeatedly shouted “**** you” to the activists and spat in the face of one man before walking away.


Since June, when Trump first launched his campaign by suggesting that Mexican immigrants are rapists, criminals, or drug dealers, he has consistently generated the most applause from broadly condemning the immigrant community. But his charged political rhetoric is having real-life consequences.

By now, incidents like this at Trump rallies are becoming routine. In fact, his supporters have spit on immigrant activists in the past.

Trump supporters have told immigrant activists to “clean my hotel room, *****;” shouted “if it ain’t white, it ain’t right” while ripping up posters; told Latino U.S. citizens to “go home” while grabbing their hair and spitting on them; told prominent journalist and U.S. citizen Jorge Ramos to “get out of my country;” joked “you can shoot all the people you want that cross illegally;” and beat up and urinated on the homeless. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg of incidents against Latinos.

There’s some evidence to back up this phenomenon. A slew of behavioral psychology studies have found that xenophobic rhetoric can and will embolden supporters to normalize racism.

A 1980 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that when participants were given favorable and unfavorable information about in-group and out-group members, they were more likely to remember the unfavorable information about the out-group members. A 2001 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that when people consider others as part of a general group, rather than as individuals, they may have greater feelings of fear and lower levels of trust in their interactions with them. And a 2004 Journal of Personality and Social Psychology study found that exposure to “disparagement humor” that denigrates, belittles, or maligns an individual or social group “increases tolerance of discriminatory events for people high in prejudice toward the disparaged group.” The study also found that it “expands the bounds of appropriate conduct, creating a norm of tolerance of discrimination.”

And even if science hasn’t done enough to prove that xenophobic rhetoric can change attitudes about immigrants, there’s always historical evidence. It happened when right-wing extremism emerged in eastern Germany. It happened when Japan failed to acknowledge its role in the genocide and forced prostitution that took place during World War II. And now it appears that Trump’s rhetoric is making it acceptable for supporters to feel justified in treating immigrant advocates with vehemence.

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Official October Electoral Map: gloom for Dems, joy for TRUMP

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Based on an average of the RCP polling data from all the states and all the “head to head” matchups between Donald Trump (by far the winner of the GOP) and Hillary Clinton (The winner of the Democratic Party) shows bad news for the Democrats.

Clinton is losing handily in all the swing states, and is even losing Democrat strongholds of Maryland, Connecticut, and Oregon.



According to many polls, and the averages, Clinton cannot even hold on to California and New York without a major fight. On the bright side for the Democrat party, they make gains in the south as Obama is now off the ticket.



Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton by 5 percentage points nationwide: getting 52% and Clinton gathering 47%


http://prntly.com/blog/2015/10/15/official-october-electoral-map-gloom-for-dems- joy-for-trump/

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Yes I believe Trump is ahead in the polls. There is so much pent up anger in our country about nothing getting done and along comes a very successful man who says that he has a track record for doing things successfully.


I was even thinking of voting for trump and I still may. The only thing that is stopping me now is things keep popping up that make a pattern of other historical events in the past.
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Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) ratcheted up his criticism of real-estate magnate Donald Trump in a new interview released Friday.

Romney, the Republican 2012 presidential nominee, discussed Trump during a wide-ranging interview with David Axelrod, who, as President Barack Obama's top campaign adviser, helped defeat Romney three years ago.

"I think Donald Trump has said a number of things which are hurtful — and he has said that they were 'childish' in some respects — and I think [they] will be potentially problematic either in the primary or a general election," Romney said.

"And they relate to things he's said about women, and things he's said about members of the news media, things he's said about Hispanics," he added. "I think he'll have some challenges if he proceeds to the next stage."

As a Republican presidential candidate in 2012, Romney went out of his way to secure Trump's endorsement. But as Trump has risen to become the Republican 2016 front-runner, Romney has let it be known that he shares the GOP's establishment's disdain for Trump's candidacy.

Last month, Romney predicted that Trump won't win the Republican nomination because the business mogul isn't a "mainstream conservative ... who has a foundation in foreign policy that gives people confidence that they can guide the ship of state in troubled waters."

Speaking with Axelrod, Romney further predicted that Trump's heated remarks about illegal immigration could create obstacles for whomever their party nominates next year. Trump frequently accuses the Mexican government of sending "rapists" and other criminals across the US border.

"Donald Trump has a big megaphone, and I think that some of the things he's said, particularly about Hispanics, will be problematic — certainly for him if he were to go to the next stage — but for whoever our nominee is," Romney said.

However, Romney suggested that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R), who has a Mexican-American wife and speaks Spanish, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Florida), a Cuban-American who is also fluent in Spanish, could deflect those concerns among Hispanic voters in the general election.

"Now, if our nominee happened to be someone like Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush, who have strong Hispanic roots themselves and connections themselves, that might not be as big an issue. But if it were someone else who didn't have those connections, why, it could probably remain as a shadow over their campaign," he said.

For his part, Trump frequently blasts Romney on Twitter for losing the election to Obama

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middleweight …

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump likes to boast about his enormous wealth and how he doesn't need anyone else's money to pay for his presidential campaign. That hasn't stopped tens of thousands of people from chipping in with checks as small as $10 to let the Republican candidate know they're behind him.


Trump has taken in 73,942 contributions, a total that surpasses several of GOP rivals, despite the billionaire businessman's early pledge to finance his own campaign. Financial reports filed last week also show that more than 70 percent of the $3.9 million he raised from July through September came from people giving $200 or less. That rate of small-donor contributions is second only to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who's in the Democratic race.

The average Trump contribution was $50.46, his campaign said.

The contributors are in small towns, suburbs and big cities. He's raised money from hundreds of retirees, ranchers, dentists, physicians, real estate executives and financial consultants.

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For Ansley Pascoli, 64, a retiree in Sandy Springs, Georgia, the money is intended as a symbol of support. She gave the Trump campaign $25 and bought several hats and T-shirts, one of which she was wearing Friday.

"One of my reasons for wanting to support him is that even though I know that he does have a lot of money, I don't feel that it's right for him to have to bear the burden," she said in a telephone interview when asked why she was giving money to someone who has bragged about not needing campaign cash.

"And even though my contribution was small, I want him to have the feeling that there are other people that are behind him," she said.


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It was a sentiment expressed by many of those who appear on Trump's contributor list and is evidence of the passion he has elicited from voters angry over the country's direction and craving a political outsider.

Pascoli said she was drawn to Trump because of his hard-line stance on immigration, his business background and the fact he's not a product of the political system.

"I really think we are in a pivotal time for the country and we need somebody who has the type of skill set that he has," she said.

Stephan Robinson, a commercial real estate broker in Pearland, Texas, said he contributed $250 because he felt an obligation to help.

"If you support a candidate, it shouldn't matter how much money he's got," Robinson said. "He shouldn't have to spend all his money."

Robinson went on: "I know he doesn't need my money and the little bit of money I've sent, it's not going to make a big difference. But I just feel in good conscience, that if you support somebody, you should contribute to help offset some of his costs." Robinson also offered to volunteer and provide office space if the campaign wants to come to town. He's given money to another Republican in the race — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

Illinois retiree Beverly Perlson, who's from a military family, said she was immediately drawn to Trump because of his attention to veterans' issues and his promise to overhaul the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The first time she heard him speak about the issue, she said, "I absolutely fell in love with Donald Trump at that moment."

Her recent $100 contribution was intended to say thank you. "My heart rejoiced because he's honestly the first person who stood up for our troops, our veterans," she said.

While Trump originally denounced the idea of contributions, he appeared to warm to the idea over the summer. His campaign now makes it easy to give, with a prominent "Donate" Button" on his website. The site also offers an online store full of campaign gear, such as $30 hats with Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan and $50 sweatshirts.

The latest filings show that the vast majority of Trump's campaign expenses in the last quarter were financed by contributions, not by Trump himself.

Trump's campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said in August that the campaign had received tens of thousands in small-dollar donations, but contributions would remain "a very small portion" of the campaign's funds. He did not respond to questions Friday about the extent to which the campaign's calculus had changed.

Many of the logged contributions reflect purchases from the website. Elle Koch, a semiretired business owner from Cincinnati, Ohio, made a hooded sweatshirt and bumper sticker purchase.

Koch, a frequent phone-banker, would like an eventual role with the campaign. She said she wasn't surprised by the large number of contributions.

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By Steve Benen


For three months, we’ve all heard all kinds of assumptions about Donald Trump’s Republican presidential campaign. He’d peaked. His act had worn thin. His lead was simply unsustainable.








The Rachel Maddow Show, 10/19/15, 10:43 PM ET

Donald Trump solidifies Republican primary lead in latest polls


And yet, the latest polling continues to speak for itself. Consider the results of the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey, released last night.


1. Donald Trump: 25% (up four points from September)

2. Ben Carson: 22% (up two points)

3. Marco Rubio: 13% (up two points)

4. Ted Cruz: 9% (up four points)

5. Jeb Bush: 8% (up one point)

6. Carly Fiorina: 7% (down four points)



The remaining candidates are at 3% or lower, including Chris Christie, who has seen his support steadily drop in recent months, falling to just 1% in this poll. Trump’s 25% showing, meanwhile, represents the strongest support any GOP candidate has in any NBC/WSJ poll this year.



A new CNN poll offers similar results:



1. Donald Trump: 27% (up three points from September)

2. Ben Carson: 22% (up eight points)

3. Jeb Bush: 8% (down one point)

3. Marco Rubio: 8% (down three points)



The remaining candidates are at 5% or lower. Fiorina, in particular, has seen her standing collapse, dropping from 15% to 4% in the CNN poll just over the course of one month.



Regardless, the burning question in Republican circles is starting to shift from “When will Trump falter?” to “What if he doesn’t?”




As Rachel noted on the show last night, National Review published a striking piece yesterday noting that the GOP establishment, long confident that Trump’s backing would be fleeting, is starting to reevaluate its assumptions.


It began as whispers in hushed corners: Could it ever happen? And now, just three months from the Iowa caucuses, members of the Republican establishment are starting to give voice to an increasingly common belief that Donald Trump, once dismissed as joke, a carnival barker, and a circus freak, might very well win the nomination.



“Trump is a serious player for the nomination at this time,” says Ed Rollins, who served as the national campaign director for Reagan’s 1984 reelection and as campaign chairman for Mike Huckabee in 2008.

The same piece quoted Steve Schmidt, an MSNBC political analyst who managed John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, saying, “Trump has sustained a lead for longer than there are days left” before voting begins in Iowa.



This isn’t to say Trump is necessarily the likely nominee; plenty of candidates who were ahead in the October before the primaries have seen those leads evaporate.



But ask yourself this: if you removed the names from the poll results and look solely at the numbers, how quick would you be to dismiss the one candidate who’s stood atop every poll for the last three months?

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush shouldn't be running the country if he can't even run his own campaign.

Trump was in Jacksonville on Saturday, the day after the Bush campaign announced staff trims and 40 percent pay cuts for those who remain. He said Bush, the son and brother of former presidents, is embarrassing his family.

Trump said he's only spent a couple of million dollars on his campaign and is leading in the polls. He said spending less and getting more is what the country should be doing.

Thousands of raucous supporters cheered Trump in Bush's home state during a riverfront rally. Trump also made fun of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, saying he's out of money and "sweating like a dog."

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