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I've lived all over the Eastern half of the country. What Cruz is trying to say, while not saying it, is there is a difference between big city political leanings and rural less cramped areas.

His comment was aimed at taking Trump down a notch while avoiding offending all major cities voters.

As far as I can tell, his comment backfired on him. But we'll see in a few days when the primary results are in.

If Cruz can't stop Trump in Iowa, then it's over.

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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
I've lived all over the Eastern half of the country. What Cruz is trying to say, while not saying it, is there is a difference between big city political leanings and rural less cramped areas.

His comment was aimed at taking Trump down a notch while avoiding offending all major cities voters.

As far as I can tell, his comment backfired on him. But we'll see in a few days when the primary results are in.

If Cruz can't stop Trump in Iowa, then it's over.

Well ive always said that about two months ago I came to the acceptance that Trump will win, and the rest is just theater. I think Trump pulls higher numbers, Cruz is second, but lower turnout. NH is and will be done before its over from what it looks like. Trump smashes the polls there. Plus Cruz is going to have a hard time attracting northeast voters. Trump can get a lot of Democrats.

Trump has the black vote, and the hispanic vote. Hillary has no chance, she is in some deep trouble. Sanders doesnt have the numbers, but he has the momentum to beat Hillary.

Also, I really dont have much of a preference on trump, cruz, or rubio. I kind of like Rubio. Id vote for either three of them over hillary or sanders.

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DES MOINES, Iowa — Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton lead in the final Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll released before the Iowa caucuses. The poll released by the Des Moines Register Saturday shows Trump at 28 percent, while rival Ted Cruz has slid to 23 percent on the Republican side. In terms of the Democrats, Clinton is the top pick for 45 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers, while Sanders stands at 42 percent. ...
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I Cant wait for the results to come in and for Iowa to be over. They say Jeb Bush and John Kasich already left Iowa to get to New Hampshire. Doubt Jeb wants to stick around a state that he is doing horrible in. Trump wins Iowa, sweeps NH, and we will see how SC goes.

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Trump: Jeb Bush 'had to bring in mommy to take a slap at me'
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In a battle that hasn't exactly been marked by its civility, the Donald Trump-Jeb Bush rivalry is taking on a whole new dimension in the closing days of the New Hampshire primary campaign. Bush, who needs a strong finish in the Granite State to revive his 2016 hopes, enlisted the help of his mother, Barbara Bush, late this week, as she hit the trail in New Hampshire with her son. While out campaigning, the 90-year-old former first lady weighed in on the New York billionaire, who leads New Hampshire polls, in an interview with CNN. Trump, not surprisingly, took to Twitter Saturday morning, calling Jeb Bush's campaign "a total disaster." He then added that Bush "had to bring in mommy to take a slap at me. ...

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Trump Threatens Independent Run If RNC Doesn’t Condemn Cruz’s Attacks

by Emily Atkin Feb 15, 2016 3:10 pm


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds his pledge during a news conference, at Trump Tower in New York, Thursday, Sept. 3, 2015. Trump ruled out the prospect of a third-party White House bid and vowed to support the Republican Party's nominee, whoever it may be.


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Donald Trump is again hinting at a possible independent run for president if the Republican National Committee (RNC) doesn’t condemn Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his recent barrage of political attacks against the billionaire.

On Monday, Trump said that the RNC would be “in default of their pledge to me” if they don’t rebuke Cruz for his attacks, which include a recent ad stating Trump would appoint Supreme Court justices who would erase the Second Amendment. Watch:


Cruz has also recently accused Trump of “pretending to be a Republican;” of being in favor of Obamacare; and of being in favor of abortion.

“Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign,” Trump said on Tuesday.

Now, Trump says the RNC must denounce Cruz’s attacks, or be in violation of the loyalty pledge he signed in September. Under that pledge, Trump promised the RNC that he would not run for president as an independent if he doesn’t win the party’s nomination. In return, the RNC apparently promised Trump that they would treat him “fairly.”

“The RNC is in default,” Trump said during a press conference on Tuesday. “When somebody’s in default, that means the other side can do what they have to do. … We’ve warned them twice, and they don’t listen.”

“The bottom line is, the RNC is controlled by the establishment,” he added. “That’s why the Republican party for president has lost so much for so long.”

If Trump does decide to back out of the pledge, there would likely be no legal repercussions. As University of Virginia Center for Politics political analyst Kyle Kondik explained to ThinkProgress back in September, the pledge was not a legally enforceable contract. “It’s like the sort of pledge you get your kids to sign that they will do their homework, make their beds and eat their vegetables before they can play with your iPhone,” the Washington Post wrote at the time. “It’s a statement of intention, but not a binding one.”

The text of Trump’s full statement on Tuesday is pasted below (emphasis added):


Ted Cruz is a totally unstable individual. He is the single biggest liar I’ve ever come across, in politics or otherwise, and I have seen some of the best of them. His statements are totally untrue and completely outrageous. It is hard to believe a person who proclaims to be a Christian could be so dishonest and lie so much.

Cruz said I would be appointing a liberal judge when in fact I will appoint a great conservative and I am the only candidate who has gone so far, at the debate, as to suggest two individuals I feel would best represent the conservative values we need to protect: William “Bill” Pryor Jr. and Diane Sykes.

Cruz says I am pro-choice, when in fact I am staunchly pro-life and have been for a long time. Like Ronald Reagan, on many issues, I have evolved.

Cruz says I am in favor of ObamaCare, when in fact I have spoken about repealing and replacing this disaster of a system at every speech throughout my campaign and since it’s inception. Meanwhile, Cruz was responsible for getting Bush to put in the judge that failed to vote against ObamaCare twice.

Cruz says I will try to take away your second amendment rights, when I am one of the strongest proponents of the right to bear arms and I say so in every speech that I have made for years. I am a proud member of the NRA and so are my sons.

Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign.

In Iowa, Cruz told thousands of Ben Carson voters that Dr. Carson had left the race and to instead vote for Ted Cruz. He apologized when the race was over. Likewise, his fraudulent voter violation form sent to Iowa voters. If Ted is going to continue to lie with such desperation, I have no choice but to fight back.

One of the ways I can fight back is to bring a lawsuit against him relative to the fact that he was born in Canada and therefore cannot be President. If he doesn’t take down his false ads and retract his lies, I will do so immediately. Additionally, the RNC should intervene and if they don’t they are in default of their pledge to me.

I am the strongest on the borders and I will build a wall, and it will be a real wall. I am strongest on illegal immigration, strongest on ISIS, strongest on the military and I will take care of our Vets. I will end common core and preserve the second amendment. I will renegotiate our trade deals and bring our jobs back to our country. I am the only person who will Make America Great Again.

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This weekend will tell us a lot, Ray.

There will be lots of momentum gained, or lost.

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I believe that Trump may have lost the nomination, with his performance at the SC debate.

Get ready for a Trump Independent ticket, imo.

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This is a big doozie. I guess Trump shouldn't have dropped Icahn's name just yet:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/p-warns-may-cut-icahn-192838440.html

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Trump leading in 8 of the 13 next primaries. Looks like he is going to be it. I thought he would a few months ago.

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Well, it's all over but the crying.

I for one am happy. I beleive you will now see a very different Trump. Unfortunately, the press will still attempt to make him look like something he is not, and he will make mistakes in his speaking that allow them to do that because he is not a professional politician.

BTW, a Rassmussen poll showed Trump can in fact beat Hillary in the national poll.

Trump got quite a few votes here at allstocks long before the media pros took him seriously. Which i noticed this morning has still not happened yet on the liberal channels.

hopefully trump modernize Conservatism into something NOT the T-Party- that was a failed experiment as proven by Cruz's running away from it to try to win the presidential nod. he couldn't run hard or fast enough to get the stink off.

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oh well trump made it . it is totally amazing the number of people he knocked off, and all of them experienced elected office holders. This has been a really good lesson in sociology.

actually his last doozie remark against the last two in the race in the republican primary, is that one was a liar with big ears and the other one eats like a slob. looks like people loved it.

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Donald Trump's poll numbers are plummeting — and even the presumptive Republican nominee has acknowledged it.

In the latest RealClearPolitics average of several polls, Trump trails Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, by 5.8 points. It's a 6-point reversal from a month ago.

The fall in fortune comes after he trailed Clinton by 12 points in a Bloomberg poll released earlier this week. Polls from Reuters and CBS News showed Trump behind by 9 points and 6 points.

Trump has fallen behind Clinton in 12 consecutive polls posted to RealClearPolitics.

Less than a month ago, Trump's future was looking brighter against Clinton in their general-election matchup.

As recently as May 25, Trump led Clinton in the RCP polling average by one-fifth of a point — the first instance of the Manhattan businessman leaping ahead of Clinton in the coveted polling average.

But as Trump has taken hits for his attacks on a federal judge over his Mexican heritage and a controversial response to last weekend's terrorist attack in Orlando, Florida, his poll numbers have taken a nosedive. At 38.3%, Trump's average support in a one-on-one matchup against Clinton is the lowest it has been since August 15 — just two months after he launched his campaign.

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Companies Bow Out Of Convention And Delegates Try To Change Party Rules To Dump Trump

by Casey Quinlan Jun 18, 2016 4:21 pm


CREDIT: David J. Phillip, AP

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a rally Friday, June 17, 2016, in The Woodlands, Texas.

Even while Donald Trump moves forward as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, establishment figures in both politics and business have stepped away from the candidate. Some delegates are withdrawing support from Trump and major corporations have decided to bow out in their sponsorship or offer less to the convention this year.

A small but reportedly increasing coalition of delegates say there may be enough Republicans to unite against Trump and make changes to party rules. If they change those rules, then delegates have the ability to vote for anyone at the convention. They would be allowed to vote for someone besides Trump if it violates their moral or religious beliefs. On Thursday, at least 30 delegates from 15 states participated in a conference call on the subject, the Washington Post reported. The convention’s rules committee meets July 14 and 15. Even if the rules committee supported the proposal, a majority of convention delegates would still have to agree, the Post added. The effort is being led by a Colorado delegate who supported Ted Cruz and is a member of the party rules committee, Kendal Unruh.

At a rally in Las Vegas on Saturday, Trump acknowledged the news about delegates organizing against him and said, “So now I hear after beating them fair and square … So how would you like to have someone who wins not only 37 states and no one else was remotely close … sets an all-time record gets 14 million votes over period of nine months and gets 37 states … How would you like to be in a party where Trump wins? Where Trump keeps winning? Where Trump gets the highest ratings in history of television?” Trump commented.

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posted by cashcow

Trump has the black vote, and the hispanic vote. Hillary has no chance, she is in some deep trouble. Sanders doesnt have the numbers, but he has the momentum to beat Hillary.

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Well I like trump most likely for different reasons than most due on this board. But as things go I have never seen such a goofy summation as this post.

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Nice to see that you still need me to splain thangs. Bernie's done lost the nomination, but he's affected the platform and moved it left. Not far enough, for sure. But effectively.

Trump is just straight up crazy: NOBODY can offer a good theory about his being a stoopid candidate to help Hillary.

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Please remove the double post.

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thanks for posting tex maybe cash cow will tell us how he came to his insight

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Bernie moved the talking points over, but he didn't change Hillary.

Hillary still faces the issue of lying under oath and to the American people.

I really expected Trump to change mode. I'm not seeing that. Maybe he's still waiting to be annointed.

What really shocks me is how many liberals really seem to beleive that Hillarys email thing is political.

Those who have been involved in handling any classified info are aghast. I realise that's less than 1/2 of a tenth of a percent of people, but waht she did was crime, and anyone who has ever been read in knows it, and knows that they'da been thumped hard for it.

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nice to hear from you glass. I hope you are all moved in.

I am starting to feel the same way about my choices. Trump is acting worse than ever and Hillary is a felon. Don't leave a person with much of a choice.

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Considering who Donald was running against, i thought his primary run was heroic.

Hillary? in most cases, it's the coverup, but in her case, she tried hard to cover it up because she knew she needed to.

Somehow the press has convincd the average Dem. voter that using your crackberry in hostile territory is not a security breach of the highest order.

There's this thing called a stingray which law enfrocement uses to mimica cell phone tower that can open up whateever you have your cell phone linked to, like your email accounts. Guess what when her crackberry logged in to her email server, the cell phone towers she used and or the mimics she was looging inot overseas caputured her passwords keystroke for keystroke,

it's not a question of IF anybody hacked her whole mess, it's really a question of who didn't.

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quote:
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What really shocks me is how many liberals really seem to beleive that Hillarys email thing is political.


I think Hillarys email thing WAS political...not in the sense that most dems believe that it was a witch hunt against poor misunderstood Hillary...but for the fact that the justice department let her walk.

She should be in serious legal trouble right now, yet she has been allowed to continue to run for the highest office in this country...

That my friend IS political...and the powers to be that let her off should also be charged

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we agree buck.


something as simple as telling somebody our next port of call when i was in the Navy was actionable. i'm sure it sill is...
everybody knew that even in peacetime.....

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What disturbs me more than the crimes that she committed is that they let her go unscathed...it just solidifies that, in reality, there is only one political party in this country and the only ones they are looking out for are themselves and their corporate handlers...

We the people should be demanding charges be brought against her...

I guess we got the government we deserve!!!

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it's not over yet. check this very old NYT article out-
Trump merely needs to begin acting like he is not a loose cannon, and he can waltz into the WH.

That's why I've become a bit alarmed at his failure to stop tweeting whatever pops into his head for instance....

(b) White House officials had not consulted any Central Intelligence Agency officials about whether to issue the pardon, and C.I.A. officials found out about it only after it was reported on television the morning of Jan. 20, just before President Bush's inauguration, the official said.

President Clinton's pardon of Mr. Deutch came as the former intelligence chief was in the midst of negotiating a plea agreement with prosecutors on charges stemming from accusations that he had mishandled classified material while director.

The Deutch pardon has not generated nearly the controversy surrounding Mr. Clinton's decision to grant clemency to the fugitive financier Marc Rich, but some members of Congress have now begun to question the decision. The chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence have sent a letter to the C.I.A. asking if officials there were consulted on the decision.

United States intelligence officials said the Deutch pardon caught them by surprise because they were expecting a possible last-minute pardon of the convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. In 1998, when Israeli leaders were pressing Mr. Clinton to grant clemency to Mr. Pollard, Mr. Tenet objected and told the president he would resign if he agreed to the Israeli demands. Mr. Clinton never did pardon Mr. Pollard.

Since Mr. Deutch's pardon, Mr. Tenet has formally revoked the former director's security clearances, officials added. Mr. Tenet had suspended the clearances in August 1999, after an investigation by the C.I.A's inspector general into Mr. Deutch's handling of classified material. (/b)

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/17/us/clinton-did-not-consult-cia-chief-on-pardon -official-says.html

it gets even better the more i dug.

Eric Holder is the one who apparently walked his pardon thru---

The problem i have with the GOP's in power right now who refuse to get behind Trump is that they may want Hillary in the oval office to campaign against-
think about it, if she gets in, they can impeach her and get all kinds of support for doing that- politics suxz....

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One other thing to consider- Hillary may not be able to work with any agency that considers it's communications confidential or above.

sure, she will be officially allowed to have access, BUT true security professionals are very skilled at dissembling- a polite way of saying they are good liars. that's part of the job description- alwys has been always will be. She'll be be hamstrung by them.

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my opinion after a life of seeing what money does in our society and what it buys you . I say Hilary walks with a slap on the wrist.

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you man like Bill did?

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I could be wrong but yes like Bill did. And if I was a gambler that's how I would put my money.
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