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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
kewl...

we have achieved unstable equilibrium

for the moment [Big Grin]

[Eek!] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Were Down]

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quote:
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that definitley gets my interest, Milton was as crazy as a loon [Big Grin]



More like he was blind as a bat lol [Cool]
just wait ten years you young whippersnapper. first you'll get a headache reading and then you'll notice your arms are sore from being stretched out full lenght for three hours at pop...

seriuosly? 90% of all people lose iether near or far vision starting at 45. it sux, but i'll take the far, (no choice anyway) and i really did stop reading for fun cuz of it. i have a hard enought ime sitting still and reading was one thing i could manage to sit still at...
however, i think this thread mighta motivated me to dustoff the libray card, oh yeah i forgot. that's theother reason i stoped reading for fun, our library is a "censored libary" none o'that liberal fiction junk to rot our kids brains [Big Grin]

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Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations,

well, actually, i do get it in because the 'droids were AI (right?) and they were owned by a giant corporation who was trying to conceal them from the law.

now, the *internet* hacking part isn't there, (2 out o'3 ain't bad) but the *genomic* hacking is, so i tie them together and i am demonstrating the natural progression from blade runner to neuromancer.

Art is a natural evolution. as each new genre is developed? we can examine how it came to be by studying the artists teachers and mentors.

Van Gogh is so important because he tended to ignore "the rules" and departed vigorously from his predecessors, yet we can still see the influences of others on his work....

Tolkein was heavily influenced by alot of unknown (to most of the world) non-english speaking authors, so his work seem to leap out at us from nowhere whne in fact that's not true...

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as for Kesey? yes, he was upset. if you read the book? you'll find the Cheif Broom character to be paranoid schiz. Not just some guy hiding from the world. Read it and while you do, look at RP as a Jesus figure and it'll all come clear.

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quote:
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as for Kesey? yes, he was upset. if you read the book? you'll find the Cheif Broom character to be paranoid schiz. Not just some guy hiding from the world. Read it and while you do, look at RP as a Jesus figure and it'll all come clear.

We read it in a English class and after we were done we saw the movie in the class as well...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
just wait ten years you young whippersnapper. first you'll get a headache reading and then you'll notice your arms are sore from being stretched out full lenght for three hours at pop...

seriuosly? 90% of all people lose iether near or far vision starting at 45. it sux, but i'll take the far, (no choice anyway) and i really did stop reading for fun cuz of it. i have a hard enought ime sitting still and reading was one thing i could manage to sit still at...
however, i think this thread mighta motivated me to dustoff the libray card, oh yeah i forgot. that's theother reason i stoped reading for fun, our library is a "censored libary" none o'that liberal fiction junk to rot our kids brains [Big Grin]

We'll i actually did mean Milton was blind as a bat... but ummmm oki im game you are too... [Big Grin] [Cool]

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Cyberpunk plots often center on a conflict among hackers, artificial intelligences, and megacorporations,

well, actually, i do get it in because the 'droids were AI (right?) and they were owned by a giant corporation who was trying to conceal them from the law.

now, the *internet* hacking part isn't there, (2 out o'3 ain't bad) but the *genomic* hacking is, so i tie them together and i am demonstrating the natural progression from blade runner to neuromancer.


Still didn't make the book Blade Runner was based on cyberpunk while the movie is because of changes they did... if you read Neuromancer you will see alot more of it in the movie then the BR book imo...

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did they have you read electric koolaid too?

it gives you a good idea how Kesey developed into what he was.

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The Merry Pranksters? no didn't read but i know about it... me not that young or old Glass that i don't know these titles lol

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test

the critique in there? i pretty much agree with. alot of authors lost there subjectivity. Castaneda was accused of it too...

A film adaptation of the book, directed by Gus Van Sant, is expected to be released in 2009.[1] The screenplay was written by Dustin Lance Black, who also worked on the HBO series Big Love and Van Sant's 2008 film Milk. The movie is being produced by Richard N. Gladstein.[2]



now that might be fun to watch


it's worth the read, it's not just a celebratin of "hippi'ism"- it discusses how Kesey "volunteered" to take drugs for the US Army as a way to make a few extra bucks in college.. a real eye-opener for people who think the govt can do no wrong [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

it's worth the read, it's not just a celebratin of "hippi'ism"- it discusses how Kesey "volunteered" to take drugs for the US Army as a way to make a few extra bucks in college.. a real eye-opener for people who think the govt can do no wrong [Wink]

We'll I know that the CIA ran LSD experiments on unsuspecting human guineau pigs after WW2...

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it wasn't just LSD... they have had dozens of 'em..

Kesey got dosed pretty good by US Govt Certified Prime Hallucinogens

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quote:
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Originally posted by glassman:
just wait ten years you young whippersnapper. first you'll get a headache reading and then you'll notice your arms are sore from being stretched out full lenght for three hours at pop...

seriuosly? 90% of all people lose iether near or far vision starting at 45. it sux, but i'll take the far, (no choice anyway) and i really did stop reading for fun cuz of it. i have a hard enought ime sitting still and reading was one thing i could manage to sit still at...
however, i think this thread mighta motivated me to dustoff the libray card, oh yeah i forgot. that's theother reason i stoped reading for fun, our library is a "censored libary" none o'that liberal fiction junk to rot our kids brains [Big Grin]

We'll i actually did mean Milton was blind as a bat... but ummmm oki im game you are too... [Big Grin] [Cool]
i swear i tried really hard to read only the articles. [Big Grin]

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Since watching Blade Runner years ago, I always thought a backstory/prequel about the Replicants would have been fun to see. Like how they went rogue, would be very interesting IMO.

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i wonder who could do it? Ridley is real busy:

Born 30 November 1937 (1937-11-30) (age 71)
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Scott is set to direct an adaptation of Robin Hood called Robin Hood which will be starring Russell Crowe as Robin Hood and Cate Blanchett as Maid Marian. Paul Giamatti is in talks to star as Friar Tuck with Mark Strong also set to star as Sir Godfrey. William Hurt, Vanessa Redgrave, and Gordon Pinsent are rumored to star in unconfirmed roles.

In April 2008, Scott announced his new project The Kind One, a period drama set for release in 2010. The film will star recent Academy Award nominee Casey Affleck.[16] Also, he will be making his first science fiction movie since Blade Runner, an adaptation of the novel The Forever War, which he has been trying to pursue the rights for since the early 1980s[17]. In January 2009 it was announced Ridley, along with his brother Tony, would be producing the film adaptation of the 1980s TV cult classic The A-Team.[18][


people like him set standards that are hard to beat.

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i think i'll get a copy of the forever war and read it before he makes the movie [Wink]

never heard of it before this.

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quote:
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i wonder who could do it? Ridley is real busy:

Born 30 November 1937 (1937-11-30) (age 71)
South Shields, England

Scott is set to direct an adaptation of Robin Hood called Robin Hood which will be starring Russell Crowe as Robin Hood and Cate Blanchett as Maid Marian. Paul Giamatti is in talks to star as Friar Tuck with Mark Strong also set to star as Sir Godfrey. William Hurt, Vanessa Redgrave, and Gordon Pinsent are rumored to star in unconfirmed roles.

In April 2008, Scott announced his new project The Kind One, a period drama set for release in 2010. The film will star recent Academy Award nominee Casey Affleck.[16] Also, he will be making his first science fiction movie since Blade Runner, an adaptation of the novel The Forever War, which he has been trying to pursue the rights for since the early 1980s[17]. In January 2009 it was announced Ridley, along with his brother Tony, would be producing the film adaptation of the 1980s TV cult classic The A-Team.[18][


people like him set standards that are hard to beat.

Also remember, him and his brother(Tony Scott) are behind the prequel to Alien. So he is exceptionally busy. But he's such a great director. Has a good vision of how the story should be made visually.

PS: do we really need a remake of the A-Team? The original was enough cheese to feed the Pied Pipers pets [Big Grin]

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must need the money?

i think i watched the Ateam a couple times. i liked George Pepard in Banacek, but the A-team? nah... and he played the same smarmy dude in both...

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The Forever War was published as a serial in Analog Magazine before its first book publication in 1974.

i prolly have read some of it there..

i read all the Analogs (old and new) that i could get my hands on in the 70's...

my school had a lot of old ones, and i read many without even paying attention to who wrote the stories...

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quote:
Originally posted by Pagan:
Since watching Blade Runner years ago, I always thought a backstory/prequel about the Replicants would have been fun to see. Like how they went rogue, would be very interesting IMO.

that would be interesting... the uprising that made them illegal on Earth...

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Anyways i am leaving for vacation to CR in a few hours so if i am not able to post from there... wish everyone a good 2 weeks...

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Mach,

Yeah I am reading the thread....still trying to learn how everything works.....so I am not Cherry Picking.....don't think I know how.

I assume you are referencing a method by which to only view posts that pertain to yourself....idk....

Got to admit....thought I was pretty cultured; but seem to be overhead on this thread......hence; not a lot to say.

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Just watched the movie.."Once"...very cool movie..

about a street musician who meets a female keyboardist/singer...they get together and make some beautiful music..

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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
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Originally posted by Pagan:
Since watching Blade Runner years ago, I always thought a backstory/prequel about the Replicants would have been fun to see. Like how they went rogue, would be very interesting IMO.

that would be interesting... the uprising that made them illegal on Earth...
Ridley Scott just announced that he and brother Tony Scott are planning a series of 5-10 minute webisodes of a series called Purefold. It's based in the same landscape as Bladerunner, but does not deal with the same characters. It also takes place before the original Bladerunner timeline. I'm thinking this could be a way to gauge public support for a full fledged prequel IMO. Link is below.

http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/blade-runner-director-rid.php

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just got Electric Mist (Tommy Lee Jones) haven't watched it yet tho

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quote:
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just got Electric Mist (Tommy Lee Jones) haven't watched it yet tho

Never heard of it... but i did see a movie about a year or so ago called The Mist... based on stephen king story... i liked it though it got bad reviews...

As for recent movies... i saw Duplicity recently in Costa Rica... with Julia Roberts and Clive Owen... good movie with alot of plots, twists and turns...

Currently I have A Good Year on DVD but haven't watched it yet... it's with Albert Finney and Russell Crowe... i think i am going to like this one...

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Terminator was horrible....

I was high as a kite to...and I still wasn't entertained LoL.

The pace was so slooooow. The story was decent, but the way the director tried to bring the story to life was terrible.

I always try be honest....and Honestly...I actualy fell a sleep.

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quote:
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Terminator was horrible....

I was high as a kite to...and I still wasn't entertained LoL.

The pace was so slooooow. The story was decent, but the way the director tried to bring the story to life was terrible.

I always try be honest....and Honestly...I actualy fell a sleep.

You must still be high on something if you thought that movie wasn't good... perhaps the pace was slow due to your pharmaceutical intake.. was slowing your senses and it seemed to be slow paced... besides what did you want something so high paced like Quantum of Solace from the very beginning that you can't follow the story?

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quote:
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
Terminator was horrible....

I was high as a kite to...and I still wasn't entertained LoL.

The pace was so slooooow. The story was decent, but the way the director tried to bring the story to life was terrible.

I always try be honest....and Honestly...I actualy fell a sleep.

You must still be high on something if you thought that movie wasn't good... perhaps the pace was slow due to your pharmaceutical intake.. was slowing your senses and it seemed to be slow paced... besides what did you want something so high paced like Quantum of Solace from the very beginning that you can't follow the story?
WoW..you must be kidding me...that movie was garbage...and I never said I wanted it to be fast paced...just not slow [Big Grin]
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it wasn't garbage and it wasn't slow paced. Take that back meanie. [Were Down]

Btw the girl pilot who falls for Marcus Wright is hot...

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i still haven't watched Electric Mist, but we did watch Painted Veil last night we bought is cuz of Edward Norton Jr but i don't recommend it. first time i've seen him in a movie i didn't really like

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Hey I got blade runner tonight.....y'all talked bout it so much that i decided to give it a look......if it sux.....I am blaming glass and mach.

Prolly watching "Ladder 49" tomorrow...

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joaquin sure aint no river

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I like Joaquin.....think he is a very good actor for the roles that he plays.

I know who River is but; I am not sure if I have ever seen anything with him in it. What would you recommend?

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quote:
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I like Joaquin.....think he is a very good actor for the roles that he plays.

I know who River is but; I am not sure if I have ever seen anything with him in it. What would you recommend?

Highly recommended dramas:

My Own Private Idaho

Running on Empty

Stand by Me


His good fun movies:

Sneakers

A Night in the Life of Jimmy Reardon

Little Nikita


Never seen but heard good things:

The Mosquito Coast

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