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Just thought to ease the tensions lately and start a fun thread that i have seen in other forums... just name a movie you seen lately that you would recommend to the board and perhaps why you think it's a good movie without giving away too much about the movie...
Last 2 movies I seen were :
Wolverine Origins Star Trek
I liked both movies but more so the Wolverine movie because I am/was a fan of comic books that featured him... Spiderman Vs Wolverine, X-Men, the 4 part series of Wolverine etc. and also I liked this movie a little more then the Xmen ones because it was a little more serious and less kiddish... was geared more towards young adults and adults alike then teenagers imo... was sort of how Batman was transformed from the earlier kiddish ones (remember the George Clooney one? lol ) to the more serious ones beginning with Batman Begins...
As for Star Trek, it was entertaining and very well done. Only thing is some of you die hard Trekkies might not like that they deviated from the original series a little... some minor things but worked well with the story imo...
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I have not been seeing any new movies I do intend to see star trek.
Last week I watched one of my favorite movies of all times War Lord with Charalton Heston and Richard Boone. They play Norman knights with a small unit of men at arms defending a fifedom from vikings.
Very real you feel like you were put into a time machine.
Great action sword play and brute force. I really like the battle secene in the beginning
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My next movie will most likely be Terminator: Salvation.... looks to be very good and more serious then the last 2 or 3... Christian Bale in the lead role this time... as John O'Connor
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I want to see Grand Toratino (if i spelled it right)...
Iron Man i loved and await the 2nd one that is being filmed right now... Mickey Rourke will be in it...
I loved 300 and didn't think it was drawn out at all... made me interested in the true story of it all... History Channel did a segment on it when the movie came out... the true story...
Breaking Bad along with Mad Men are probably the best 2 series on TV... I wonder if any of us would do the same as the main character in Breaking Bad if we were terminally ill and such...
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Valkarie, although I don't care much for Tom Cruise it was the one on Hitlers assasination. Interesting stuff in the movie I never learned about in the history of ww2. Something about mary I could watch a million times that's just to hilarious.
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quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: Slumdog Millionaire...
I'm curious to see this movie but i'm disturbed by the fact that the two young children in the movie who played the two main characters as children were not compensated for their roles which could of improved their lives...
The girls' father tried to sell her for $200,000 to a Saudi Arabian i believe.
The boys' home got tored down by the Gov't for being illegal.. so now him and his family are living on the street literally... as far as i know all the boy got for his role was a signed poster from the director Danny Boyle...
But anyways i forgot to mention that i also want to see the new Transformers movie... i have a thing for Megan Fox...
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Visited my parents tonight and watched Pale Rider while I was there on TV. IMO one of the greatest westerns of all time but then again I think Clint was the greatest onscreen cowboy of all time... I will be seeing Terminator Salvation tomorrow...
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Checked out X-Men Origins today...Pretty decent, thought Liev Schreiber did a great job with the Sabertooth character...Will echo what Mach said earlier, film is definately a little more serious in nature as compared to the previous X-Men movies...Read somewhere there may be Gambit and Deadpool spinoffs in the works... Posts: 2383 | Registered: Apr 2006
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I just saw Terminator Salvation. Great movie. Imo it blows away the first 3 movies and much like the recent batman movies and Wolvering Origins it is a more serious movie then the first 3 Terminators. Christian Bale deserves his stardom.There is also a surprise in the movie towards the end.
For you gun buffs, you'll love this movie. Seems like this year is the year of action movies. For whoever goes see this movie extra brownie points if you can guess what the character Marcus represents that is famous in American cinema.
HV, yes I thought Liev Schreiber was a great Sabertooth. A underrated actor imo. His star will come. I read the same thing about spinoffs but only for Gambit. Haven't read anything about Deadpool.
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Star Trek is *very* good. I compare it to the new James Bond re-do...
It's tough to "pre-quel" an established character, and in this case it could have been disastrous, given Shatner's scene-chewing, over-the-top bombast.
Don't get me wrong--he hit the times perfectly, for TV. Great TV show.
But this movie hits the reset button and brings the performances in line with current expectations for a "blockbuster" movie...and it's not only the Kirk character: McCoy is realized in an inspired performance, as is Chekov. Sulu, Uhura and Pike are workmanlike and more than competent. But the others are inspired.
Nicely done, artistically--and pure genius business-wise. I expect this crew to get at least 3-4 good movies in this run.
"Visited my parents tonight and watched Pale Rider while I was there on TV. IMO one of the greatest westerns of all time but then again I think Clint was the greatest onscreen cowboy of all time... "
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You might get a lot of argument from that statement from old time western buffs.
There are many great actors of westerns long before Clint was big time or even in show business.
I would have to put John Wayne way ahead in this category with a few of his classics.
I do like Clint, but he comes from a little different era of cowboy.
Now if you want to go Space Cowboys that's a different story.
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Quote Machiavelli:
You might get a lot of argument from that statement from old time western buffs.
There are many great actors of westerns long before Clint was big time or even in show business.
I would have to put John Wayne way ahead in this category with a few of his classics.
I do like Clint, but he comes from a little different era of cowboy.
Now if you want to go Space Cowboys that's a different story.
Come on, nothing John Wayne did onscreen impressed me as a Cowboy except perhaps his last movie where he is riding a horse and holding the reins with his teeth while shooting his guns/rifles.
Clint:
The Good, Bad and the Ugly For a Few Dollars More A Fistful of Dollars Joe Kidd Hang em High The Outlaw Josie Wales Pale Rider Unforgiven
whose more interesting? John Waynes' bland characters or Clint's Man with No Name characters including The Preacher in Pale Rider?
Btw what movies are coming out this weekend?
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"Come on, nothing John Wayne did onscreen impressed me as a Cowboy except perhaps his last movie where he is riding a horse and holding the reins with his teeth while shooting his guns/rifles."
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I might have missed a few, but below are some pretty good ones. I am not that familiar with his early movies, but it seems like John Ford directed a few.
Clint made his mark mainly from those Italian westerns, Rawhide and a real classic, Paint Your Wagon. Still not in the same category as the Duke in westerns.
HAUNTED GOLD (Warners, 1932) RIDERS OF DESTINY (Lone Star/Monogram, 1933) THE TRAIL BEYOND (Lone Star/Monogram, 1934) WINDS OF THE WASTELAND (Republic, 1936) OVERLAND STAGE RAIDERS (Republic, 1938, Three Mesquiteers' series) WYOMING OUTLAW (Republic, 1939, Three Mesquiteers' series THE ALAMO (1960) THE COWBOYS (1972) THE SHOOTIST (1976) Rooster Cogburn (1975) Cahill U.S. Marshal (1973) The Train Robbers (1973) Big Jake (1971) Rio Lobo (1970) Chisum (1970) The Undefeated (1969) True Grit (1969) The War Wagon (1967) El Dorado (1966) The Sons of Katie Elder (1965) McLintock! (1963) How the West Was Won (1962) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) The Comancheros (1961) North to Alaska (1960) The Horse Soldiers (1959) Rio Bravo (1959) The Searchers (1956) Hondo (1953) Rio Grande (1950) She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) 3 Godfathers (1948) Red River (1948) Fort Apache (1948) Angel and the Badman (1947) Stagecoach (1939) The Big Trail (1930)
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Iwish, It's not how many movies you make but the quality of those movies. Clint's Man with No Name character is far more memorable then any cowboy John Wayne played. Wiki said it best in this statement:
"Unlike the traditional cowboy, exemplified by actors John Wayne, Alan Ladd, and Randolph Scott, the Man with No Name will fight dirty and shoot first, if required by his own self-defined sense of justice."
Traditional cowboys are a dime a dozen in the movies and not as memorable imo. Clint's Man with No Name was/is instantly recognizable. JW is more recognize for his voice/accent then his characters. The only JW cowboy movie that I can recall that I like is The Horse Soldiers. Excellent movie but I liked Clints' westerns far better. The Preacher (Pale Rider) and Josie Wales were so much more memorable.
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JW is the best I will always love Hondo IMHO One of the top wasterns
And true grit was a classic that will be at the top forever.
Nobody but the Duke could have played thoes parts like the Duke
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I watched the movie "W" last night.
Did you like it? What did you think of it? etc.
I think it shows how Bush never really had to earn anything in his life.
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Iwish, It's not how many movies you make but the quality of those movies. Clint's Man with No Name character is far more memorable then any cowboy John Wayne played. _________________________________________________
It's got nothing to do with how many movies he made, that list shows many classic westerns to be considered really great westerns by many.
You might like Clints modern day westerns, at least considered that at that time. I liked them some, but they got rather boring after awhile.
They are not in the same category as some of the really great westerns.
Clints westerns started leaning towards the younger generations type of western. Kind of like many of the movies today, the more real and bloody and nasty, the better the movie.
I have never felt that a movie had to be nasty and bloody to be good. I really do not need to see guts hanging out, or a gun put to someone's head to like a movie. But it appears that's what many want these days.
They try not to leave much for the imagination anymore.
A little bit of that goes a long ways for me.
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Imo The best John Wayne movie by far was the Searchers probably to me the best western made. If you wanted to go the TV route there is nothing yet made or ever made that has compared to Lonesome Dove it even tops the Searchers.
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Clint Eastwood would win against John Wayne hands down. Hes just that much more of a better shot and badass all around.
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Tex, that was a pretty sucky ending to 24 wasn't it........ I sat there and said That's it!!! That's the ending??? A great season but I thought a sh---y ending.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Clint Eastwood would win against John Wayne hands down. Hes just that much more of a better shot and badass all around.
+10 ... JW's characters went by rules in a gun fight... damnit there is no rules in a street gun fight lol sort of like if we ourselves got into a street fight and made up a rule that no hitting each other in the ballz... Clint's gunfights were more realistic in terms of no rules and much more exciting...
JW's gun fights tend to bore me and not realistic... the ole white hat and black hat and white hat kills black hat and gets the girl and walks into the sunset... get's overdone imo... There was nothing "clean" about the Old West...
The only movies that I like of JW (hated his politics and hated how he portrayed himself as patriotic but avoided serving in WW2 unlike Jimmy Stewart and others who did serve)off the top of my head was :
The Quiet Man The Horse Soldiers The Green Berets (totally unrealistic)
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Clint Eastwood would win against John Wayne hands down. Hes just that much more of a better shot and badass all around.
Have to be a badass in the Old West... nothing badass about JW's cowboys... I watched For a Few Dollars More the other night on TV... such a great movie... Clint is such a badass no matter what kind of movie he is in...
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"10 ... JW's characters went by rules in a gun fight... damnit there is no rules in a street gun fight lol sort of like if we ourselves got into a street fight and made up a rule that no hitting each other in the ballz... Clint's gunfights were more realistic in terms of no rules and much more exciting...
JW's gun fights tend to bore me and not realistic... the ole white hat and black hat and white hat kills black hat and gets the girl and walks into the sunset... get's overdone imo... There was nothing "clean" about the Old West...
The only movies that I like of JW (hated his politics and hated how he portrayed himself as patriotic but avoided serving in WW2 unlike Jimmy Stewart and others who did serve)off the top of my head was :
The Quiet Man The Horse Soldiers The Green Berets (totally unrealistic)'
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Again different styles of westerns and different style of actors in some ways. They both portray tough guys in their own different ways.
I also think that John Wayne Westerns portrayed what many people still wanted to feel. They wanted fairness and morality and cheating was not the thing to do. Fair gun fight, fair fights, no shooting in the back etc.
This was and era that was changing and we were still part of the 50's in a sense, most of our parents were still alive and fairly young.
Some of us here were in our younger years during these times. There were a lot of changes that were going on and books, internet etc. can't completely explain these times. Not even sure i can explain it.
Those italian westerns seem to have had a short live era.
I would assume if they thought there was enough following for that type of western in the US they would have kept making them.
There has been enough westerns made since and they don't seem to follow that format.
Actually one of my favorite Clint movies besides Space Cowboys was Heartbreak Ridge.
As far as the movie Green Berets, are you sure that was totally unrealistic, what do you base your opinion on?
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"+10 ... JW's characters went by rules in a gun fight... damnit there is no rules in a street gun fight lol sort of like if we ourselves got into a street fight and made up a rule that no hitting each other in the ballz... [Roll Eyes] Clint's gunfights were more realistic in terms of no rules and much more exciting...
JW's gun fights tend to bore me and not realistic... the ole white hat and black hat and white hat kills black hat and gets the girl and walks into the sunset... get's overdone imo... There was nothing "clean" about the Old West..."
I guess you missed some of Wayne's movies like "Red River" and "The Man who Shot Liberty Valance" and "The Searchers" to name a couple. He didn't exactly play by the rules.
There is no doubting Eastwood as a premier actor in westerns. But Wayne was what might be called a pioneer of the Westerns. It's not unlike comparing ballplayers from different era's very tough to do.
Another thing is that the characters both portrayed were written by screenwriters or authors so to say that Wayne's characters were less compelling than Eastwood's says more about the writing than the actors themselves.
Both play compelling characters just in different manners, according to the script and also the era. Each in their own right are ICONS of the Western Genre.
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movies are not SUPPOSED to portray reality.
they are Art.
Clints' movies were no more realistic than JW's.
Clint's founding western movies were low budget spaghetti westerns.
JW was owned by the studios he and all other actors at the time pretty much did what the studio told them to do. they had some bargaining power as they became more famous, but not much.
i liked JW in the Quiet Man. he killed somebody in the ring and it emacsculated him, he had to find a good fight to get his doodads back. just another message of dealing with post-war trauma. Hemingway made his living offa writing about this stuff too.
the real question is can a big high budget movie studio make Art better than low budget "starving artist" independant studio.
i totally agree with Iwish, the 50's were a very idealistic time. the Lone Ranger, Zorro, all that "hero" stuff.
that was America's way of dealing with PTSD from the WW2. it was an Homage to the sacrifices that our troops made in W2. it was a clear message that there is a proper "human" way to go about killing.
Clints' ruff edge was a statement against war if you think about it.
he was saying there's no rules, and he was putting it right in your face. but his characters had no social value whatsoever, they merely survived. just like animals do.
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