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glassman
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details are still sketchy, but reports are coming in that more than 20 are shot dead...

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What a tragedy.

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22 Dead In Virginia Tech Shooting
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2939462&version=3& locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1

Last Edited: Monday, 16 Apr 2007, 12:26 PM EDT
Created: Monday, 16 Apr 2007, 12:19 PM EDT

Shootings at a dorm and classroom on the Virginia Tech campus Monday, April 16, 2007, left at least one person dead and one wounded, and a suspect was arrested, authorities said. (AP Graphic) By SUE LINDSEY
Associated Press Writer


BLACKSBURG, Va. -- Gunfire erupted in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech on Monday, killing 22 people, the police chief said. The gunman was killed.


The university told students to stay inside and away from windows as police swept the campus and worked to establish whether the gunman acted alone.

A hospital spokeswoman said 17 students were treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

On the Web site, Tech reported the shootings at opposite ends of the 2,600-acre campus at West Ambler Johnston, a co-ed residence hall that houses 895 people, and said there were "multiple victims" at Norris Hall, an engineering building.

Government officials with knowledge of the case told The Associated Press there were seven to eight other "casualties."

All entrances to the campus were closed and classes canceled through Tuesday.

"There's just a lot of commotion. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on," said student Jason Anthony Smith, 19, who lives in the dorm where shooting took place.

Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the 4th floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanode's resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.

"They had us under lockdown," Kanode said. "They temporarily lifted the lockdown, the gunman shot again."

"We're all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out what's going on," Kanode said.

Madison Van Duyne, a student who was interviewed by telephone on CNN, said, "We are all in lockdown. Most of the students are sitting on the floors away from the windows just trying to be as safe as possible."

It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.

In August 2006, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus.

The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.

Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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Terrible....Not alot of news on this yet....with that many killed I cant imagine what type gun this sicko was using. I would have to guess it was a fully automatic?

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apparently, after the shooting in the dorms the gunman crossed a mile of campus and then shot up classes in an engineering building...

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quote:
Originally posted by rimasco:
Terrible....Not alot of news on this yet....with that many killed I cant imagine what type gun this sicko was using. I would have to guess it was a fully automatic?

only a pistol is reported, the police are being tight-lipped..... they seem to be somewhat in shock about how this happened..

there is a big question if it was only a lone gunman...

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Thats what im saying...at columbine those two wastes of life were armed to the teeth and took out twelve and injured 24.

Maybe he was in a nest?......

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it's not that hard to shoot unarmed students when you are standing in the doorway and blocking the exit..

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I know but my point is.....soon as you let off those first few rounds theres not to many targets left standing around....like i said at columbine there were two, shooting everything that moved....

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a second shooter...or like i said before....the kid was in a nest covering a huge area

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i think the the police couldn't believe there was only one shooter too..
that's why we are not getting the news quickly..

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the gun control questions are already being fired at the white house...

gee? if we outlaw guns? will the same dope dealers that supply all the campuses add Glocks to their "inventory"

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Future Michael Moore movie coming? [Mad]
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quote:
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Future Michael Moore movie coming? [Mad]

who cares? moore is a fat self-serving slob and so is rushie [Razz]

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good grief...lol
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good grief...lol
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Well we cant argue gun control until we see what hardware was used...

I not for total control but I dont see why guns like the tech 9 mac 10 and 11 are still in produstion....

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2 9-milli semi-auto's...

i predict we'll find this guy had extensive experience maybe even "pro" training....

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Thats what im saying....this guy sounded like a marksman

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22 killed including the gunman 21 others injured. Couldn't use helos because of the high winds. Still waiting to hear from some friends about their kids.
Our prayers are with all the families affected by this.

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quote:
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Well we cant argue gun control until we see what hardware was used...

I not for total control but I dont see why guns like the tech 9 mac 10 and 11 are still in produstion....

those guns are crap. their designs have been fundamentally altered so that they can no longer handle the forces generated in full-auto fire...
the ATF (finally) forced the manuf. to change them...

there are older models still around that can be altered, but they are becoming scarcer and scarcer...

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the numbers keep rising...

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Now at 32. [Confused] [Mad]

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quote:
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Now at 32. [Confused] [Mad]

not enough gremlin faces to express my anger

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32 killed..


you know if one of those students had a conceal and carry and the campus allowed that then there is a possibility that gunman would have killed less...


now all the gun grabbers are going to say if guns were banned this would have never happened....as if the sicko wouldnt have found something else worse to use

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agreed CCM...

we recently had an incident in a Jackson MS shopping center parking lot where an unidentified (armed) man stopped a guy from lighting his own wife on fire after the husband had stabbed her a dozen times and poured gasoline on her...

the guy with the gun just disappeared after the cops showed up

VA had some of the most liberal concealed carry laws in the country when i left there in '97.... i dunno if they changed 'em... in CA it's illegal to posses a firearm on any State campus

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still hearing 29 killed another 20 some injured. another 3-5 in critical condition. Some jumped from 2nd and 4th story windows to escape. a couple prior bomb threats a week and a couple weeks before this. That should have heightened security.

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Years ago, in a tavern in west Fort Worth, a drunk got into a fight and was ejected. He tried but couldn't find a gun to retaliate against the guy with whom he was angree. He went across the street and bought a gallon of gasoline and poured most of it in a glass jug, inserted a wad of shirt tail for a wick, lit the thing, and heaved it into the tavern from the front door.

The intended victim was in the restroom at the time and escaped unscratched through a small window into the alley way. Those inside the main tavern that didn't die were horribly disfigured for life.

The moral of this story is to ban glass bottles or any substitute that will shatter on empact. That's the reason all the soft dring and beer companies use plastic bottles or aluminum cans now. So stop riding them for being unconcerned with the environment and your safety.

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now up to 31. What station are you listening to juice?

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somthings fishy....I wouldnt be surprised if they hold back alot of info. to deter prospective copycats

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FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no immediate evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."

I must admit it did cross my mind

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Yahoo news Keeps running the same story but increasing the death toll...the toll stands at 30 + shooter

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The death toll after Whitman shot from the University Tower in Austin is still growing. There was a death announced about in January that "resulted from injuries" due to being shot by Whitman from his perch.
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"shooter appeared to be a heavily armed asian man"

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Years ago, in a tavern in west Fort Worth, a drunk got into a fight and was ejected. He tried but couldn't find a gun to retaliate against the guy with whom he was angree. He went across the street and bought a gallon of gasoline and poured most of it in a glass jug, inserted a wad of shirt tail for a wick, lit the thing, and heaved it into the tavern from the front door.

The intended victim was in the restroom at the time and escaped unscratched through a small window into the alley way. Those inside the main tavern that didn't die were horribly disfigured for life.

The moral of this story is to ban glass bottles or any substitute that will shatter on empact. That's the reason all the soft dring and beer companies use plastic bottles or aluminum cans now. So stop riding them for being unconcerned with the environment and your safety.

Seems to me a thin plastic bottle or can is a heck of a lot cheaper than glass.
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Its starting to look like somewhat of a columbine copycat...

A friend of the shooter said he plyed the game "DOOM" alot which Klepold and the other azz-clown played as well.

They also said that the largest school shooting previos to this one was in Germany, where 16 were left dead. They said in that case as well they found 50 shoot'em up games in the murderers home.

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