the concept of the internet was born a long time ago more or less as a mail box system for the CIA... the modern internet was re-born by the miltiary after the Grenada invasion to facilitate communication between the different branches of the military.....
i listened to rush a few times back in the early nineties when he was just being a "shock-jock"... he stunk then too... the "Greaseman" was much better, on DC101 in, yes, Wash DC..
the dude is funny (he hates being called dude) http://www.greaseman.org/ a lot of Greasey's work was inspired by Robin Williams or so it seemed to me, he took it in different directions, but there were some distinct similarities...
i think that at first rush was just trying to be funny but eventually rush started to believe his own BS ......
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Nah.....he believed it all along. Some time take a look through his work history.......he was repeatedly "let go" for constantly preaching extremist politics at work.
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take a look at some of rushies big brothers political writings.... it's amazing tripe
September 15, 2005 Kicking God Further Out the Door
U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton's decision that a California "school district's policy and practice of teacher-led recitation of the Pledge violates the Establishment Clause," provides a timely illustration of judicial activism at work.
Just to be clear, I'm not here accusing Judge Karlton himself of activism. He determined that he is required by the previous holding of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in the Newdow case to enjoin the district from the practice
judicial activism? LOL, following the law is more like it.....
maybe funny isn't the right word, but i thought rush was trying to be sarcastic at first...
G Gordon Liddy was another of the "shock jocks"... he actually made sense once in awhile, and had some truly funny stories... but he also spoke "from the bully pulpit"
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So just What is the solution to get out of this whirl wind downward spiral that Bush has US in? get out of Iraq? leave the Muslim extremist alone, and let ISREAL fend for themselves? Pay more attention to what’s going on in America instead of the world? Just what is the answer, intriguing minds want to know.
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I hate to be correcting Glass...., but the beginings and basic workings of the internet existed long before the CIA and military ever heard of the idea. I can't recall the exact labs, but the techniques were put together by some science types working at universities and Government labs in the west (mostly California) in order that they might share data almost instantly. The use of the system for what we now call email followed soon therafter and was organized by a single one of them. All of that was in place well before the CIA or the military ever knew of it.
It's strange what becomes accepted as fact. I've watched several highly regarded TV documentaries that make the blunt claim that the Apple computer was the first successful "desk top". Sorry, but there were a numberof brands of "desk top" computers in common use before Steve Jobs was even in short pants. When the first Apple computer came out, I remember setting it beside a Commidore and two other pre-existing computers (one was a notebook Osburn, I think) that ran the CPM operating system for the programmers in the office to compare. They thought it was a neat but unnecessarilly expensive doodad.
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i'd tell you how i know that CIA factoid bdgee, but you would be getting visits from black helicopters..and i don't think you'd like spending the rest of yer days in cheyenne mountain
as far as my reference to the grenanda issue? i was refering specifically to the current IP address system, which is what makes the system we have today work so well....DARPA claims that credit... nobody in particular invented it.... just like nobody invented nuclear power plants...
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No black ones here. But that big blue and white one the police use to let the drug users know they are on the way was circling the neighborhood yesterday until they cleard him out of the path of the departing planes from Carswell. Those damned planes were almost a constant roar until about 4 AM today. Wonder where they sent them to escape Rita? I looked for the noisy blue and white gas eater to be back today, but it never showed.
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At the beginning The Internet began to evolve when packet-switching networks came into operation in the 1960s. When transmitted, data is broken up into small packets, sent to its destination and then reassembled. In this way a single signal can be sent to multiple users. Packets can be compressed for speed and encrypted for security.
ARPANET moves it forward Early packet-switching networks were set up in Europe. In 1968, a similar system was developed in the USA which went into operation at the US Defence Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) in 1969. ARPA, also called ARPANET, used Network Control Protocol (NCP) as its transmission protocol from 1969 to 1982, when NCP was replaced with the now widespread TCP-IP (Transmission Control Protocol - Internet Protocol). With the technology in place, the question was what to do with it! A number of interconnected US military computers formed the first sizable Internet for defence use. E-mail developed through ARPANET as did the bulletin-board system, Usenet in the 1970s/80s. During this period all major universities in the USA were connected to the network. This was found to be the ideal method of sharing experimental and educational data. 1973 saw the first intercontinental connection when the University College of London, England, joined the Internet.
USENET spurs it on USENET contributed enormously to the Internet’s rapid expansion and is considered to have begun in 1979. Its spirit of information sharing and discussion was the hallmark of its system and was reflected in the Internet as a whole. When personal computers were introduced in the late 1970s, a huge new and ever-expanding computer population was introduced to the Internet. E-mails was increasingly used, network discussions took place and in the 1980s, communities formed chat rooms.
The World Wide Web widens its horizons 1991 saw the introduction of what we now call the World Wide Web, the brainchild of Englishman Tim Berners-Lee. He saw the need for a standard linked information system which could be accessed by all the various types of computers in use. In 1993 the first properly developed web-browser, Mosaic, took the Internet by storm. Developed at the National Centre for Supercomputer Applications (NCSA), it gave birth to a huge boom in Web usage.
What is the Internet?
Today, the Internet is an enormous network of millions of computers allowing constant communication throughout the world. It includes: the World Wide Web, electronic mail (e-mail), File transfer Protocol (FTP), Internet Relay Chat (IRC) and USENET (news service)
The World Wide Web is the part of the Internet that most users see and use and which has made it so popular. The web continues to grow at an absolutely incredible rate. Technology has improved to such an extent that the web is now considered to be indispensable for education, business and entertainment. There are billions of pages on the web and thousands more are added every hour.
E-Mail Anyone can apply for an e-mail address and send and receive messages from their computer. The main benefit is the almost instantaneous delivery of messages. An e-mail to the other side of the world takes a few seconds. You can also sign up to automatically receive newsletters and other information, delivered directly to your computer.
File Transfer Protocol Web pages are transferred between computers using the HTTP protocol, with other types of files sent using FTP. Users can share files, such as music and videos between themselves and the rest of the world by uploading them to a server and then allowing others to download them to their own computers.
Internet Relay Chat IRC is a service allowing you to connect to your chosen channel and talk to others with the same interests. By downloading an appropriate programme, you can start chatting right away.
USENET USENET (Unix User Network) is a system of bulletin boards whereby messages and points of view can be posted to be read and replied to. Similar to IRC, all sorts of topics are discussed and a wide range of groups take
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thats'a nice summary... to bring us back full circle to the myth about Gore saying he invented the internet... i voted AGAINST Gore cuz my impression was that he was a pompous A$$ and at that time? Bush seemed harmless (LOL)....
anybody who would claim to invent the the internet would have to be really pompous, so at the time? i thought maybe he did claim too much credit for his part, but the real joke is that Rush was In My Opinion, trying to be funny, and instead people took him seriously.... it's kinda scary how i hear things as sarcastic and others take them for fact.... i know i'm often guilty of being sarcastic and get heard as serious, but limbaugh has made millions on it..... and at some point? he started taking his own sarcasm seriously too....
just my opinion....
mikey moore is just as sarcastic, but if you watch fahrenheit 911? it's pretty clear he is using a condescending and sarcastic tone thruout.... it came off as offensive and "holier than thou"... very few of the things he presented as fact were fiction, but many of his "suggestions" were pure fiction..... the movie was definitely not written in a way that left you feeling like you could believe what he was saying...
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Glassman - I am beginning to think the whole govco, conservatitives, liberals, lobbist, etc., are all pompous A$$.... Does anyone in Washington really care about the middle class anymore. You know, the ones who work, buy houses, send their kids to college, pay TAXES, buy things, the ones who keep the circle going.......
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seriously? IMO? the system has has been bought and paid for...
i don't see a painless solution....
there are solutions but:
this guy put it pretty well a long time ago....
Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death
Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775.
No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
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Bush says live on FOX, " Rest assured i will not interfere with emergency responders while i am here for photo ops...now please, let me get back to interfering with the...."
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Ok, wisenheimer--Top Ten Things Bush Has Done:
10) Ranch-Style Beans from Fort Worth (whooooo hoooo!) now stocked in Crawford grocery--before? dried pintos only, or fresh from truck-garden in season...doh--you gotta shell those...
9) Halliburton investors not burned nearly as badly as Enron's
8) Would you really want to miss the Cindy Sheehan show?
7) Poppy seeds are no longer just for "your father's buns."
6) Prices at the pump finally drawing US and European drivers together--which foreshadows a Mini-Cooper SUV: how rad is that?
5) Flourishing retail "grey market" bodes well as precedence for penny-traders stuck-like-glue in stocks that may upgrade to pinks some day...
4) CIA gets a sigh of relief: "Wheew, dodged a bullet, there."
3) The much-overlooked teachers of various Chinese dialects can now look smugly over their glasses at all the ensconced teachers of Spanish
2) The French are *still* phucked, hahhaha, lol
*and, no 1*
1) Nepotism *finally* (sigh of relief)...PROVEN SUPERIOR to CRONYISM...
so, go ahead 4Art--hire your brother-in-law in good conscience...
And remember, there's *always* a silver lining.
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