quote:Originally posted by cyclekitty1: Politics has always been a divider not a uniter no matter what Bush would like you to think.
Yep that can be traced all the way back to Alexander Hamilton VS John Adams!
Since all politicians basically suck (nature of the job) I generally vote for the one that will least effect my personal life. And before you say it 4art I'm never right all the time. but I ride a bike and it should be my choice to wear or not wear a helmet. (government can make me carry catastrohy ins. but not if I have to wear one. They (and this is the big one) want my guns! Then how do I defend myself? Until we get some better choices things will not change. Clinton was as big a joke as Bush. I wanted Elizabeth would have made a great pres!
When you say Elizabeth do you mean Dole?? I voted for her in '96!!
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look at how he responded to new orleans and look how he responded in iraq a lot better than to americans. look at our gas prices because of a national disaster. nobody mentions that he has been subsidising iraq gas so thoes poor people won't have to suffer at the pump. we put americans in prison for mistreating suspected terrorist prisoners but at least they had water and a bowel to relive themselves where is the government and citizen outrage over the the treatment of of our own people? if you want to know what he thinks of us look at how the events of new orleans are being responded to. heads should be rolling and bush aught to be man enough to resign and say i never liked americans any way.
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i also have heard and i have not verified it yet that bush has preposed to the new government of iraq that they have some sort of national health plan for there citizens how are they going to pay for that one answer we will isn't that a real sharp stick in the eye to americans
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If Fema responded in a timely manner in 04 in Port Charlotte after Charlie hit, they were hidin out somewhere. Cause I was there and THEY WEREN'T!
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quote:Originally posted by bond006: i also have heard and i have not verified it yet that bush has preposed to the new government of iraq that they have some sort of national health plan for there citizens how are they going to pay for that one answer we will isn't that a real sharp stick in the eye to americans
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the Iraqi national health plan is written into their constitution...
they are also going to to basically be a "welfare state" (see Saudi Arabia and Kuwait)based on oil revenues, which of course, our tax dollars are building the infrastructure for...
the whole thing is one big barrel of rotten pork....
and you don't have to guess who's the master of ceremonies ayat theyis "pig pikkin".....
i recently posted a link to a translation of the most recent version of the new constitution, some things are obviously lost in translation, but my take on what i read, which is most of it? they are going to be nothing like a democracy as we know it...
it's just more political male equine efluvia.....
they also wrote in a clause thaqt says no law shall be written in contradiction to the Koran, which means that (based on the actions of other Moslem nations) women will NOT enjoy the same rights that they have here in th eUS
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well isn't that wonderfull glassman i just love your mind for the thought process and your fantastic use of its knowldge you are clearly a person that keeps up with a lot of things and current events i myself being an old soldier tackle things in a different manner but i am changing and learning a lot from people like you who post. thank you
i like your answer to the health plan and the info about iraqs new constitution.i do believe what you said about it and all i have to say this is a sad day for america and so many miss lead people it makes my heart bleed for my people and this land
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We've had few who took the job so seriously or with such love of country, Tex. Johnson was never afraid of anything but damaging the United States. He was of a whole generation of political giants that loved this country more than they did their party.
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now you guys just think if we got rid of bush how hard it would be for conservatives to find another alcohalic that says god talks to him every day and to make him a president that only happens once in a life time.
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Actually, I think you could find another one pretty easily. Just put a help-wanted sign on a few laundromat bulletin boards.
quote:Originally posted by bond006: now you guys just think if we got rid of bush how hard it would be for conservatives to find another alcohalic that says god talks to him every day and to make him a president that only happens once in a life time.
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His nephew was in Austin emulating dubya receently, clearly training seriously for his turn one day.
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GO AHEAD FOLKS BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE NEWS. IF YOU WANT THE REAL NEWS OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE ASK THE SOLDIERS THAT ARE RETURNING AND HOW MANY OF THEM WOULD GO BACK.
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Do you think that the war is going well? The majority of Iraqis don't.
quote:Originally posted by oohgee4: GO AHEAD FOLKS BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE NEWS. IF YOU WANT THE REAL NEWS OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE ASK THE SOLDIERS THAT ARE RETURNING AND HOW MANY OF THEM WOULD GO BACK.
(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Many adults in the United States are losing confidence in their president’s aptitude to make decisions connected with the coalition effort, according to a poll by the New York Times and CBS News. 63 per cent of respondents are uneasy about George W. Bush’s approach to the war in Iraq.
The survey shows a 17-point drop in confidence on the American president since a survey conducted days before the war began.
The coalition effort against Saddam Hussein’s regime was launched in March 2003. At least 1,897 American soldiers have died during the military operation, and more than 14,300 troops have been injured.
On Sept. 16, Bush discussed the current state of affairs in Iraq, saying, "Clearly, Iraq is a struggling democracy. But one thing is for certain: the people have made their mind about what they want. They want democracy: 8.5 million Iraqis went to the polls, see, and they’ve got a constitution that’s been written. It wasn’t written under bayonet or under the barrel of a gun—it was written by people from different factions of the society that have come together."
Last month, Iraqi negotiators finalized the country’s new draft constitution. The 15 members of a Sunni Arab panel did not endorse the proposed body of law, which must be ratified in a nationwide referendum on Oct. 15.
Yesterday, Iraq’s National Assembly approved the constitution. Deputy speaker Hussain al-Shahristani said the document "is being submitted to the United Nations (UN) and will be presented to the Iraqi people soon. (...) There is no way there will be any changes now."
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War for no reason. Heck if GORE had only been elected, 911 would probably not have happened ,The war in Iraq wouldnt exist and the economy would be flourishing like it did under Clinton.
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No one knows for sure of course, but my gut tells me that you are correct.
quote:Originally posted by MakingIT: War for no reason. Heck if GORE had only been elected, 911 would probably not have happened ,The war in Iraq wouldnt exist and the economy would be flourishing like it did under Clinton.
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Iraq Coalition Troops Non-US Forces in Iraq - 16 August 2005 As of July 1, 2005, there were 26 non-U.S. military forces participating in the coalition and contributing to the ongoing stability operations throughout Iraq. These countries were: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.
Countries which had troops in or supported operations in Iraq at one point but have pulled out since: Nicaragua (Feb. 2004); Spain (late-Apr. 2004); Dominican Republic (early-May 2004); Honduras (late-May 2004); Philippines (~Jul. 19, 2004); Thailand (late-Aug. 2004); New Zealand (late Sep. 2004); Tonga (mid-Dec. 2004) Hungary (end Dec. 2004); Portugal (mid-Feb. 2005); Moldova (Feb. 2005);
Countries planning to withdraw from Iraq: Poland (starting Jan.05 and completed by end.05(?)); Bulgaria (end of 2005, depending on circumstances); Ukraine (entire contingent, in stages until ~ Oct. 2005)
Countries which have reduced or are planning to reduce their troop commitment: Ukraine (-200 during Fall04 rotation); Moldova (reduced contingent to 12 around mid-2004); Norway (reduced from ~150 to 10 late-Jun.04, early Jul.04); Bulgaria (-50, Dec.04); Poland (-700, Feb.05); Italy (-300 expeted in Sept. 05(decrease appearently began in mid-Aug. 05)); Netherlands (reduced from ~1,345 to 4; ~Mar. 2005)
# Japan's opposition party, the Democratic Party of Japan, announced on August 16, that if elected to power as a result of the schedule September 11, 2005 elections, it would pull out japan's entire contingent from Iraq at the term of its mandate set to expire in December. # On August 13, 2005, the Italian daily La Stampa, reported that Italy had begun its pullout from Iraq earlier than expected. Affected were ~ 130 sailors along with a squadron of CH-47 helicopters and accompanying ~100 army personnel. It was reported that half of these troops would not be replaced.
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You can't help but misquote. Learned that trait from Fat Rush the Doper, didn't you? Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. He said he had "invented" terminology such as "information super highway" and other catchy phrasiology in order to popularize the internet in Congress and get funding for it.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: You can't help but misquote. Learned that trait from Fat Rush the Doper, didn't you? Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. He said he had "invented" terminology such as "information super highway" and other catchy phrasiology in order to popularize the internet in Congress and get funding for it.
Here's the comment. He obviously didn't mean it the way it sounded.
"GORE: Well, I will be offering - I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
During a quarter century of public service, including most of it long before I came into my current job, I have worked to try to improve the quality of life in our country and in our world. And what I've seen during that experience is an emerging future that's very exciting, about which I'm very optimistic, and toward which I want to lead."
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And the question asked him was what had he to do with the term "information super highway". And you completely ignored the part where they reviewed the initial funding with which the internet was developed and pointed out Gore was the lead Congressman in getting that funding and keeping it againse opposition from the republicans.
Way to go with those misquotes!
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Thanks, timberman. I was watching that show and saw it as it happened and knew that Gore never claimed to have invented the internet, though I didn't have any record of where to get details. There was more to the interview than just that related in the link you provided, which included discussion of the term "information super highway" which Gore definately did take credit for bringing before the Congress.
It is possible that I am wrong, but my memory also tells nme I remember Limbaugh being the first to present the lie that Gore claimed to have "invented the internet". I heard that live too. Generally, my memory may loose the details of such events as the interview of Gore or Limbaugh misrepresenting it later, but almost never the actual meat of them of what actually happened.
I find it repulsive, at best, to have fools that copy that intentionally insulting palaver and pass it on as Gospel, doing so indignantly, as if it were unquestionable. To do so, even if you yourself want to believe it is true, is dishonesty in the extreme. For those of you eager to demean anything not straight from the Party line, have the common courtesy to not claim things you are too lazy to confirm.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: You can't help but misquote. Learned that trait from Fat Rush the Doper, didn't you? Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. He said he had "invented" terminology such as "information super highway" and other catchy phrasiology in order to popularize the internet in Congress and get funding for it.
I hope you aren't refering to my post about Gore inventing the internet.
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NO, I I certainly didn't think of you in writing that, but if the shoe fits...
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I just wanted to make sure, I know sarcasm doesn't always relay onto the thread. I was about to get pretty pissed if you were calling me a Rush Dumnuts protoge.
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