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Neo Member	posted May 15, 2004 12:41 50 Companies in the Computer Peripherals industry listed in order of descending market capitalization. HPQ CAJ LXK ATYT SBL NATI LOGI AVCT AVID CREAF SCSC IDNX HYC OMCL MTLG INFS PANL SFE CMPC TACT SSYS MOBE RIMG GRB SIGM SCMM LINK IMMR LTRX ARWR XTND IBZT PTNX CICI COPY ALOT ESCC HAUP INPH CRDS KTCC ISR AVSR MRI.A WGA VSNI IOMG SBEI RDCM SNDT Alphabetical Listing of all Industries in the Technology Sector Communications Equipment Computer Hardware Computer Networks Computer Peripherals Computer Services Computer Storage Devices Electronic Instr. & Controls Office Equipment Scientific & Technical Instr. Semiconductors Software & Programming maybe we can find something in here IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 15, 2004 13:07 I remebered that last time we talked about this we looked at siri so i been looking at it again....interesting....in year 2000 I belive siri had an os of almost 1 bil was in 15.1 mil debt.... ibzt has 2.2 bil os as far as etrade is concerned and I was under the impression they have no debt and many emerging products.....siri in yr 2000 was at almost 70 dollars a share...even with 1bil os....so why is it people are saying ibzt cant make it to a dollar with its high os......even if the os was 5 bil a dollar is still in reach I would think when looking at the pps for siri....what do you think! IP: Logged
be_cool Member	posted May 15, 2004 21:01 ...IMO IBIZ will reach (easily) 1 Dollar .... if they make for example 0.2 $/share revenue ....multiplied by 15 (what is a realistic value) ... we will have 3 Dollars per share... Ken said he sees an exponential growth of the company in the next time...and OK, if we see only 0.1 $/share revenue...so OK, we will reach "only" 1,5 or 1 Dollar per share ! You think not realistic ? I think it's realistic .... and in the past there were many other companies outside which ones has had the same unbelievable growth in share price ! And in any case if it's possible to go from 100 $/share to 0,1 $/share ... the other direction in share-price is possible too...there are enough examples for it! With a little luck and hard work it could become reality....because IBIZ is good positioned at the moment, but they must GO now and come out with all their products as fast as possible otherwise other companies can do the same and the actual advantage is gone ! Ciao ... and GOOD LUCK to all longs ;-) [This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 15, 2004).] IP: Logged
Love the Market Member	posted May 16, 2004 13:50 CEOcast 5/16/04 http://ceocast.com/newsletter_list.cfm?nid=218 It was a busy week for iBIZ Technology Corp. (OTCBB: IBZT), the developer of accessories for hand-held devices. It reported revenue of $434,000 for its second quarter, ended March 31, 2004, which surpassed its combined revenue for the past two fiscal years. It also said that it had shipped the first production units of the new Virtual Laser Keyboard to industry analysts, even while it awaits FCC and Laser certifications, which will allow it to ship the product to major retailers. The company�s Synosphere subsidiary also announced that it had retained GRID Strategic Advisors to assist in developing strategies for the commercialization and licensing of its satellite radio handheld accessory and lighted memory card patent pending technologies. This product should complement sales of the Virtual Keyboard, as the company will likely be able to market the two products to the same customers. The stock ended the week at $0.0252 IP: Logged
sync2112 Member	posted May 16, 2004 17:05 quote: Originally posted by Neo: I remebered that last time we talked about this we looked at siri so i been looking at it again....interesting....in year 2000 I belive siri had an os of almost 1 bil was in 15.1 mil debt.... ibzt has 2.2 bil os as far as etrade is concerned and I was under the impression they have no debt and many emerging products.....siri in yr 2000 was at almost 70 dollars a share...even with 1bil os....so why is it people are saying ibzt cant make it to a dollar with its high os......even if the os was 5 bil a dollar is still in reach I would think when looking at the pps for siri....what do you think! I will tell you part of the story. What do you think IBZT inventory is worth.......A million bucks.....5 mil..... Not very much. What do you think 3 eartho orbiting satelites are worth. Not tem mention one of 2 FCC licsences to operate anew buisness that is raking the airwaves by storm is worth. I will tell you those satellites are worth well over 2 billion. And the whole buisness os worth well higher than that. Now do you figures on what ibzt is worth. It is not even close. IBZT is not worth 10% of what SIRI has. IP: Logged
sync2112 Member	posted May 16, 2004 17:18 I got to say no one wants those lofty levels more than myself. I have a mighty position and would love to see it. Again its the o/s that prevents it. Way too many hands control the destiny of this stock. We have all seen the manipulation the last few months. The day traders can just flat keep a lid on this thing. I urge anyone not to be foolish and take a profit if a decent one arrives. This stock has already risen out of the ashes and it could definatly get on another run but I will not get greedy and will pull the sell button. It stings bad enough when I lose money on a stock. It stings even worse when I have a gain and I become a bit too greedy to take advantage of it. IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 16, 2004 17:49 yeah I never said we were going to obtain 70 a share i said why cant we get to a dollar and as you said ibiz is not even a 10th of siri well id more then estatic if ibiz pps was a 10ths of siri's in 2000. and this company has shown that it is still growing drasticly with the best yet to come. more aquasitions and such so that increases the companies worth....not that the will ever have the worth of those satalites but still i think if siri can get to that pps with 1 bil os then ibzt with all that is doing is not imposible to reach 1dollar with its os jmho based on trying to put logic into this thing. wich we all know this entire thing is not very predictable IP: Logged
sync2112 Member	posted May 16, 2004 19:20 You forgot to put that SIRI is not at 70 bucks a share. It only in the 3 buck range. Hey I am with you on anything can happen. Its just the day traders that can smash any good run we have by selling into strength and that is what they will do. This is not the year 2000 also. Traders are much more wary since the dot com bust. I never see us hitting 1 buck but sure won`t stand in its way! IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 16, 2004 19:31 yeah but if you could have sold at that point wa hoo...im hear ya about the day traders but what are you thinking this can or will get to? IP: Logged
sync2112 Member	posted May 16, 2004 21:38 Gosh who know where it can go. Anything can happen in the market. The downsides to a real flyer is the o/s...the otc reputation. They are just not considered in many trading circles as a good hold. Thats why most will make and take profit. At 10 cents I have a boatload of cash and it will be really hard to stay longer. Most in this thing are penny traders and they are allways out for the latest and greatest. IP: Logged
Hooter Member	posted May 17, 2004 07:27 I'm not sure what will happen and I hope I'm not full of pipedreams but I think this could take on a major run just on the hype. Yes the hype is fadeing now but only a limited number of people even know what this thing is. It seems every summer there is some sort of craze some new widget that takes the population by storm and I feel this may very well be it. Not to mention techies and trekies this product could very well be a hit not just for those who use it but others who just think it's cool. Look at some of the computer houses like Tiger Direct. They sell lots of illuminated computer cases and lighted mouses etc. This will be a sexy product for the masses. And what happens if this thing does sell like gang busters? JMHO but if this thing clears .75 I feel there will be rumour of stock buy back and that will be all it takes to move mountains. The o/s is a killer but if success brings about revenue the giant CAN be slain. jmo IP: Logged
wvmayor Member	posted May 17, 2004 12:56 Product IS coming. It is just a matter of time. I don't think it will be very long, at that. Then it will come down to the reviews. Is it all we hope it will be? IP: Logged
Nostradamus Member	posted May 17, 2004 13:26 The reviews will probably say something like, if you're planning to type up a 20 page paper, stick with your conventional keyboard but if you want something cool to impress your friends, it's worth it for $99. Do you think such a review will bring us up to the Promised Land? IP: Logged
wvmayor Member	posted May 17, 2004 14:44 quote: Originally posted by Nostradamus: The reviews will probably say something like, if you're planning to type up a 20 page paper, stick with your conventional keyboard but if you want something cool to impress your friends, it's worth it for $99. Do you think such a review will bring us up to the Promised Land? Sales of the gadget will bring us to the promised land. $99.00 is a low price to play with this puppy. Who types 20-page papers on their pda anyhow? I use mine for short documents, notes, tasks. IP: Logged
TTmaster99 Member	posted May 17, 2004 15:47 Seriously... Virtual keyboard is a wants... Not a need... IBIZ would have better chances of selling to the public of a virtual keyboard idea if they intergrated into PDA at PDA's production line rather than selling the virtual keyboard itself... Also... I heard virtual keyboard is reflections of finger nails... Even though I don't have a virtual keyboard to test it out, but I think virtual keyboard would have too many errors and bugs to be use in medical field... If it response to finger nails, then consider while in a surgical, and doctor accidently slide his finger nails across the virtual keyboard while grabbing some papers on the desk... And doctor end up giving wrong surgery positions... And I heard of this virtual keyboard will have possibility to be bring into school and college? Well in high school and middle school and elementary, kids dun even know where the keys are, and classes using white white lights, so keyboard will just disappeared on the table, how the hell are those kids suppose to know where to type... And even if they increased the laser that put image onto the flat surface... For those who don't know, red laser kills your eyes!... Why don't IBZT go to these kids and be like "Oh, your eyes will probably go really bad in few months and posibility of blindness using this keyboard, but it's ok you got a cool keyboard to type on and it makes those really annoying table tapping noise to annoy your teacher" I really don't think it's a good idea to even have a virtual keyboard... Typing 30 pages essay or research papers and have to hear the table tapping noise... I would of smash the dammn thing... I myself just think that because it's a new idea, so many people would have interest in it and will try it out first couple of months and IBZT stocks would rise upon purchases and contracts with big company... Once the product is out and stock is up, I am OUT! IP: Logged
mainstay Member	posted May 17, 2004 16:19 SIRI has very little revenue compared to what IBIZ could possibly generate from the sales of the VKB and BlueDock alone. Right now, this company has many more penny flippers than investors unfortunately. IBIZ needs to shed that image, and I think management knows that. The first goal this company need to focus on is getting off the OTC and onto the AMEX or Nasdaq. That will draw the big money in along with institutional buying. We won't have any of that as long as we remain on the Bulletin Board. A $1 price target would give IBIZ a market cap of about $3 billion with if we figure 3 billion o/s. That's still $1 billion less than SIRI is sitting at with its piddly revenue. I'm not saying we will be valued at that, but there could be an infusion of cash flowing into this company, and it could take us to those levels initially, even though many would consider that overbought. Never underestimate the buzz a company can generate, which could spark frenzied buying. IP: Logged
be_cool Member	posted May 17, 2004 16:40 IMO there are many many application for the technology of a virtual keyboard and it will become more and more standard in the whole world were it makes sence ... for example in places with dirty air (industry), small devices (without any other input possibility)... telephone stations and banking- and ticket automats (because it don't have any mecanicals and so it's safe and it's unbreakable and easy to clean!)....and (maybe...I don't know if it works?!) you can use it through glass (behind the glass) for example you can put the device outside (behind glass) of rooms were it isn't allowed to put something in it .... you can use it in dark environments (for example theater panels, they are always black) because it's always highlighted .... you can use it (for special installions and in special places head over) at the ceiling (nearly impossible with other keyboards .... and much much more....think about ...do a little brainstorming ...and you will see there are much much more possible applications outside then we we know at the moment. It's a absolutely new technology with open end (at the moment) and I'm sure we are just at the beginning and not already at the end !!! About this day....was a political day for all stocks IMO ! Ciao [This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 17, 2004).] IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 17, 2004 16:58 Anyone think the shorting from the Berlin Exchange is having the biggest effect on IBZT. I sent Investor relations an email and they said that they're working on getting delisted. It's got to be the reason for the crappy PPS. You post Quarterly results that blow away two previous years and your stock reacts like IBZT and something is bad wrong. Just haven't heard much on this from many on the boards and was wondering what the thought was. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
wvmayor Member	posted May 17, 2004 17:44 quote: Originally posted by TTmaster99: Virtual keyboard is a wants... Not a need For those who don't know, red laser kills your eyes!... I really don't think it's a good idea to even have a virtual keyboard... Typing 30 pages essay or research papers and have to hear the table tapping noise... I would of smash the dammn thing... LOL.. first of all, ALL technology products (with the exception of Tivo) are wants, not needs. Secondly, Red laser only makes your eyes go bad IF YOU LOOK DIRECTLY AT IT. Geez. Thirdly, I'm sure you can turn off the tapping sound. Got any legitimate points to make? IP: Logged
be_cool Member	posted May 17, 2004 17:44 Question: In Germany normally it isn't possible for "normal" shareholders to "short" a stock ..."short selling" isn't allowed for ALL shares ! So can anybody tell me: 1) How does it work ...the NAKED short selling from Berlin-Exchange ? I've never ever heard from before !?!?! 2) Who can do the naked-short-selling ? The company ? The Broker ? Germans only ? Americans ? WHO ??? Thanks in advance for a detailled answer !? Ciao [This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 18, 2004).] IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 18, 2004 06:17 IBIZ you have rested long enough! NOW get up and run! IP: Logged
Love the Market Member	posted May 18, 2004 16:25 bump - this poor stock finished pretty good compared to where we were heading, but the thread keeps falling to page 2 on a couple of boards...... Come on Ibiz - make us proud! IP: Logged
TimN88 Member	posted May 18, 2004 20:18 quote: Secondly, Red laser only makes your eyes go bad IF YOU LOOK DIRECTLY AT IT. Geez. [/B] Yeah, maybe if you look at it for a few weeks continuously. I'm 99.9% sure its a helium neon laser (not very high frequency) that puts out a few mW, if that. I would not be terribly worried about looking directly into it. It is no stronger than a laser pointer, and how often do you see people wearing laser eye protection during presentations where a laser pointer is in use. Looking directly at the sun is worse. In a physics lab we have an argon (green) lazer that can cause damage you even if it reflects off a pen tip into your eye. The VKB is less than 1/1000th as powerful as that one. IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 18, 2004 20:28 good so its safe...wonderful now if the fcc would say that we could get this show on the road! expecting reviews soon....probably along the lines of some one elses post....not to replace a home keyboard but sure is a cool gadget perfect for handhelds.......acording to other posts on how long fcc aproval takes we should be shiping soon.... has anyone called and asked when the fcc process started or where they are in the process! IP: Logged
Been_there_done_that Member	posted May 18, 2004 21:02 quote: Originally posted by memphis: Anyone think the shorting from the Berlin Exchange is having the biggest effect on IBZT. I sent Investor relations an email and they said that they're working on getting delisted. It's got to be the reason for the crappy PPS. You post Quarterly results that blow away two previous years and your stock reacts like IBZT and something is bad wrong. Just haven't heard much on this from many on the boards and was wondering what the thought was. Well, IBZT completely fits the profile of companies who have suffered through this. Here are a few news links (for other companies) for those who haven't heard about "StockGate" yet to get up to speed on what is apparently happening in Berlin. http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/altavista/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040518006158&newsLang=en http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/altavista/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040518005842&newsLang=en http://www.masshightech.com/displayarticledetail.asp?Art_ID=65658 To answer your original question... Yes, I think it has EVERYTHING to do with it. Just my opinion here... I don't have any proof. IBZT just fits the profile PERFECTLY though. It's a high volume penny stock that is volitile and has been sliding down the toilet on good news with a solid backlog of orders and more products coming soon. The better the news gets, the lower the stock price falls. I have seen quite a few resons for increased selling pressure over 20 years of trading, but "very good and improving news" is a pretty unusual one. I just don't buy the idea that this selling is just your standard "I'm tired of waiting for this company to deliver" type of selling pressure. Granted, there have been delays... but that soen't explain why investors would fold their hands in droves on the news that the long-awaited big product is finally coming down the home stretch and heading for the wire. There is something else happening here... all IMHO IP: Logged
whizknock Member	posted May 18, 2004 21:03 quote: Originally posted by Neo: good so its safe...wonderful now if the fcc would say that we could get this show on the road! expecting reviews soon....probably along the lines of some one elses post....not to replace a home keyboard but sure is a cool gadget perfect for handhelds.......acording to other posts on how long fcc aproval takes we should be shiping soon.... has anyone called and asked when the fcc process started or where they are in the process! Even if not by design, Ken just might find himself in a place where there are plenty of keyboards to help cover demand. ------------------ whizknock IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 18, 2004 21:35 quote: Originally posted by Been_there_done_that: Well, IBZT completely fits the profile of companies who have suffered through this. Here are a few news links (for other companies) for those who haven't heard about "StockGate" yet to get up to speed on what is apparently happening in Berlin. http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/altavista/index.jsp ?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040518006158&newsLang=en http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/altavista/index.jsp ?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040518005842&newsLang=en http://www.masshightech.com/displayarticledetail.asp?Art_ID=65658 To answer your original question... Yes, I think it has EVERYTHING to do with it. Just my opinion here... I don't have any proof. IBZT just fits the profile PERFECTLY though. It's a high volume penny stock that is volitile and has been sliding down the toilet on good news with a solid backlog of orders and more products coming soon. The better the news gets, the lower the stock price falls. I have seen quite a few resons for increased selling pressure over 20 years of trading, but "very good and improving news" is a pretty unusual one. I just don't buy the idea that this selling is just your standard "I'm tired of waiting for this company to deliver" type of selling pressure. Granted, there have been delays... but that soen't explain why investors would fold their hands in droves on the news that the long-awaited big product is finally coming down the home stretch and heading for the wire. There is something else happening here... all IMHO I sent an email to IR explaining what I had heard about the Berlin Exchange shorting issue and got a response stating that they were working to delist from the exchange. At least they're aware of the issue. I don't think this will do anything until it's delisted. Many great companies have been put out of business with issues like this. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
Been_there_done_that Member	posted May 18, 2004 23:04 quote: Originally posted by memphis: I sent an email to IR explaining what I had heard about the Berlin Exchange shorting issue and got a response stating that they were working to delist from the exchange. At least they're aware of the issue. I don't think this will do anything until it's delisted. Many great companies have been put out of business with issues like this. Good deal. Thanks for contacting them. Step 1 is to stop the fall off the edge of the earth. Step 2 will be to start working back through the new resistance levels that pop up when a stock bottoms out like this and then tries to recover. If we get news of the final approvals for distribution of the virtual keyboards, that should at least take us back to the recent .035-.04 range... if we can stop the hemorrhage first. IP: Logged
TimN88 Member	posted May 19, 2004 09:38 quote: Originally posted by Neo: good so its safe...wonderful now if the fcc would say that we could get this show on the road! expecting reviews soon....probably along the lines of some one elses post....not to replace a home keyboard but sure is a cool gadget perfect for handhelds.......acording to other posts on how long fcc aproval takes we should be shiping soon.... has anyone called and asked when the fcc process started or where they are in the process! The FCC doenst have a problem with standard laser pointers that you can buy at staples, do they? My semi-professional opinion is that its nothing to worry about. Right now ken schilling has much bigger things to worry about, like regaining the trust of investors (which may never happen). IP: Logged
Nostradamus Member	posted May 19, 2004 11:45 What a pleasant surprise today ... anyday now IP: Logged
ZACH115 Member	posted May 19, 2004 13:01 Well you want a surprise you will get one there are lots of jini's here. IP: Logged
TTmaster99 Member	posted May 19, 2004 14:08 50 PAGES!!! Alot of people are looking at this stock... That's a good thing... But then again, people loose trust in this Schilling dude already... Sigh... IP: Logged
be_cool Member	posted May 19, 2004 16:34 heeee, we've an UP-day :-))) IMO next "UP-day" will come when VKB will receive the FCC-certification ! Ciao IP: Logged
ZACH115 Member	posted May 19, 2004 17:40 Or may be this week. IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 19, 2004 23:37 I really think they've got the get the delisting from Berlin Exchange taken care of before this will move like it should. Think about it. A company with an outstanding new technology product just releases it Second quarter results showing it's revenue for that quarter was greater than the previous two years and it doesn't even include sales from it's new product that's gotten rave reviews and is about to ship to market. The stock barely moves up and then falls back to lows again. Something is up. This does not compute. SHORTING. Go research companies that have been shorted and you'll see the same pattern. Doesn't matter what they ship if they're beening shorted illegally it won't matter. JMHO. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
Rob Member	posted May 20, 2004 01:14 See what happens when delisting from the Berlin exchange occurs, check out the TSBB thread. Delisted yesterday. Up 30% today! NEWS states that this stock has been severely SHORTED. Interesting to see what happens over the next couple of days. Go Ibiz IP: Logged
Race to a Million Member	posted May 20, 2004 05:32 That's great news Rob....any idea how long it takes for a stock to get delisted from the exchange? Nate IP: Logged
Neo Member	posted May 20, 2004 06:21 How long did it take tsbb IP: Logged
Booty Quest Member	posted May 20, 2004 07:58 quote: Originally posted by Neo: How long did it take tsbb I believe it took about a week. IP: Logged
be_cool Member	posted May 20, 2004 10:24 Delisting from Berlin-Exchange....how long does it take ? Take a look at TSBB ...discovered unauthorized listing on the German Exchange on May, 12: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040512/57441.html ...and was delisted May, 18: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040519/57794.html ....so it will take some days if IBIZ management the delisting has already started ?!?! Do anybody know if IBIZ try to get delisted from Berlin-Exchange ? If yes, I think we will "fly" after the news of delisting comes out, because it wasn't normal that the better the news were more faster sank the stock-price. There was something real wrong ! :-((( So hope for better days ! ...depends on the IBIZ management and the Berlin exchange ! Ciao [This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 20, 2004).] IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 20, 2004 10:49 quote: Originally posted by be_cool: Delisting from Berlin-Exchange....how long does it take ? Take a look at TSBB ...discovered unauthorized listing on the German Exchange on May, 12: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040512/57441.html ...and was delisted May, 18: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040519/57794.html ....so it will take some days if IBIZ management the delisting has already started ?!?! Do anybody know if IBIZ try to get delisted from Berlin-Exchange ? If yes, I think we will "fly" after the news of delisting comes out, because it wasn't normal that the better the news were more faster sank the stock-price. There was something real wrong ! :-((( So hope for better days ! ...depends on the IBIZ management and the Berlin exchange ! Ciao [This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 20, 2004).] I sent an email to IR this past weekend and got the following response from Ed Lewis from Comcast who handles their IR. "IBZT is taking steps to be delisted from the Berlin exchange. IBZT never applied for listing to the Berlin exchange." I got this on Monday 5-17-2004 so they should be coming off any day now. Check finance.yahoo for IBZT.BE and it should tell when delisted. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
TTmaster99 Member	posted May 20, 2004 11:12 Going at this rate now... IBZT will never make to its $1... IBZT trying to get the IBZT.BE delisted from Berlin-Exchange? or the whole company IBZT itself? LOL Bankruptcy? IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 20, 2004 11:21 quote: Originally posted by TTmaster99: Going at this rate now... IBZT will never make to its $1... IBZT trying to get the IBZT.BE delisted from Berlin-Exchange? or the whole company IBZT itself? LOL Bankruptcy? Delisted from Berlin Exchange. I think a this is why the stocks not moving. Maybe why we've seen absolutely no PR since they wouldn't do any good with shorting going on. Once they're off and PR's come out it should take off again, BUT NOT UNTIL. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
SimpleGuy Member	posted May 20, 2004 11:32 TTmaster99, I registered to post on this board specifically due to your incessant and baseless comments on IBZT. Notice the "I heard" being used quite a bit. Yeah, I heard I could fly if I concentrate real hard TTmaster99 Member posted May 17, 2004 15:47 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seriously... Virtual keyboard is a wants... Not a need... IBIZ would have better chances of selling to the public of a virtual keyboard idea if they intergrated into PDA at PDA's production line rather than selling the virtual keyboard itself... Also... I heard virtual keyboard is reflections of finger nails... ===================================================== yeah right, reflection of finger nails? might as well say the reflection of a high gloss table would render it useless. Don't even know (or.. already knew, but is going to bash nonsensically anyway) that it's breaking the laser grid that results in inputs, not the reflection. ===================================================== Even though I don't have a virtual keyboard to test it out, but I think virtual keyboard would have too many errors and bugs to be use in medical field... If it response to finger nails, then consider while in a surgical, and doctor accidently slide his finger nails across the virtual keyboard while grabbing some papers on the desk... And doctor end up giving wrong surgery positions... ==================================================== Using a normal keyboard would ensure that doctors wouldn't slide his fingers across the keyboard accidentally? What if the doctor or nurse spills a liquid on the keyboard and short circuits it? Wait till keyboard is replaced before surgery continues? ==================================================== And I heard of this virtual keyboard will have possibility to be bring into school and college? Well in high school and middle school and elementary, kids dun even know where the keys are, and classes using white white lights, so keyboard will just disappeared on the table, how the hell are those kids suppose to know where to type... And even if they increased the laser that put image onto the flat surface... For those who don't know, red laser kills your eyes!... ===================================================== Another idiotic claim. There are different classes of lasers. Some are harmful, some are not. Under the VKB's manual on the IBZT web page, it clearly states : "The virtual keyboard is certified as a Class 1 Laser Enclosure. This means that the laser emission is eye safe under any conditions." ===================================================== Why don't IBZT go to these kids and be like "Oh, your eyes will probably go really bad in few months and posibility of blindness using this keyboard, but it's ok you got a cool keyboard to type on and it makes those really annoying table tapping noise to annoy your teacher ==================================================== Is it completely silent when you type on a normal keyboard? ==================================================== I really don't think it's a good idea to even have a virtual keyboard... Typing 30 pages essay or research papers and have to hear the table tapping noise... I would of smash the dammn thing... ==================================================== Which idiot would use a laser keyboard to type a 30 page paper? You? ==================================================== I myself just think that because it's a new idea, so many people would have interest in it and will try it out first couple of months and IBZT stocks would rise upon purchases and contracts with big company... Once the product is out and stock is up, I am OUT! ==================================================== You know what? I personally think that you do not have a single share of IBZT. However, you do want to bash IBZT to death so that you could buy more at a cheaper PPS. Nobody would buy into a stock and start bashing it. Please post concrete evidence to your posts. DD and links are much welcomed (NEW DD please. don't beat dead horses). Otherwise, you're nothing more than a grade F basher. quote: Originally posted by TTmaster99: Going at this rate now... IBZT will never make to its $1... IBZT trying to get the IBZT.BE delisted from Berlin-Exchange? or the whole company IBZT itself? LOL Bankruptcy? [This message has been edited by SimpleGuy (edited May 20, 2004).] [This message has been edited by SimpleGuy (edited May 20, 2004).] IP: Logged
salvia123 Member	posted May 20, 2004 11:35 been holding this stock for way too long....great potential but i need to get my small profit and move on...cant wait for ever to make a "it big" t IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 20, 2004 12:42 quote: Originally posted by salvia123: been holding this stock for way too long....great potential but i need to get my small profit and move on...cant wait for ever to make a "it big" t I'm with you. They've just lost my confidence in their ability to follow through on schedule. Get my dough back and a little profit and I'm gone. ------------------ Memphis IP: Logged
memphis Member	posted May 20, 2004 13:18 quote: Originally posted by yuccatelo: Neo & Purl Gurl I am considering getting into IBZT. But could anyone on this board answer this one question regarding VKB keys. Have you actually used one? Does it really work as you imagined? It's kind of hard for me to believe it works. Here is why. On a regular keyboard you'll notice that your fingers contact the keys two distinct ways. 1) touch to actually depress a key and 2) touch without depressing the key only as a means to keep in contact with the {A,S,D,F & J,K,L,;} keys to enable and ensure that your hands and fingers always remain roughly in the same orientation or position over those 8 reference keys as you type away. You simply cannot type accurately without your fingers being in contact with at least several of those 8 keys. How in the world can the laser infrared system detect the difference between those two types of contact? Answer: Your fingers (hand) must hover above the VKB without touching at anytime unless your finger intentionally touchs a virtual key to enter that symbol into the PDA. To be able to do that you must constantly keep your eyes on the keyboard to make sure your fingers goes exactly to the virtual key you wish to contact. In normal non-virutal typing eye contact is not needed. Thus it would seem to me that the VKB would be pretty inefficient and problematic. Here is a (link) photo picture of the IBZT keyboard: www.vkb.co.il/1.jpg IMHO it's quite deceptive. When reporters etc describe or show IBZT VKB it sounds or appears to me as if they had not actually tried one themselves but giving 2nd hand versions of what it would be like. Sure, if you press or poke 2 or 3 virtual keys with one hand and demonstrate that clicks ensue and corresponding symbols are displayed on the PDA screen it works but that is not the same as typing away on the fly. Please prove me wrong. I tried to sign on at Raging Bull IBZT to bring up the same question there but was unable to do it. Maybe someone there might have the answer. It would be good to find out ASAP. Regards, Y You can't compare this to an actual keyboard because it is originally designed for PDA use. PDA's do not come with standard size keyboards so the comparison is a mute point. I have a PDA and without ever using the VKB I know it'll be a heck of a lot easier, faster, and more acurate than using the stylus and poking around on the little screen. There will be other uses for it. For mobile use in say maybe military, medical, etc. Tons of specialty use most likely, but it's not going to replace desktop keyboards so lets stop trying to compare it to one. That's not the niche market these will fill. [This message has been edited by memphis (edited May 20, 2004).] IP: Logged
lurch Member	posted May 20, 2004 13:30 Man that Berlin thing looks ugly!! They have run it in the ground from .05!! Be glad if they really delist it. It looks to have been on since Jan 21. I have a hard time believing it is taking this long to get it off. I'm sure there will be a little scandal involved. As for the "How it works" comments... I needed my "home" keys back when I started typing. Yes I still tend to feel them when they are there... but I don't need them. If you think about it instictively, you only need glance for a second and then type away. Should even work for the "hunt and peckers" IP: Logged
TTmaster99 Member	posted May 20, 2004 14:18 SimpleGuy, I bought 20,000 shares on this one when it was at it highest (0.0495)... And now it's pretty much worth about 200bux... I just see no hopes on this one and wont buy anymore of it... About me being a basher, it's not call basher, it's call reality... You believe in this stock so blindly that you don't even see what is going on lately... Do you see any green lately? And Keyboard is even out too... Even a a profit report came out and it got red!!! OMG!!! This is like the first time I ever seen it... A red on a good quarter report!... Only person I respect on this message board is Neo... He knows the obvious and still hoping... The rest of you just hoping and wishing so dammn blindly that when someone say something, ya'll consider it as basher this basher that... quote: Originally posted by SimpleGuy: TTmaster99, I registered to post on this board specifically due to your incessant and baseless comments on IBZT. Notice the "I heard" being used quite a bit. Yeah, I heard I could fly if I concentrate real hard TTmaster99 Member posted May 17, 2004 15:47 IP: Logged
TTmaster99 Member	posted May 20, 2004 14:22 I'm with you too Memphis... Get little bit of my money back if I'm lucky... then GONE! quote: Originally posted by memphis: I'm with you. They've just lost my confidence in their ability to follow through on schedule. Get my dough back and a little profit and I'm gone. IP: Logged

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