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salvia123
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posted February 13, 2004 09:37     Click Here to See the Profile for salvia123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the only wave to ride is the tidal wave UP this stock is headed...dont sell, the buzz and momentum behind this is awesome

#1 OTC stock in volume yesterday!

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TTmaster99
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posted February 13, 2004 11:01     Click Here to See the Profile for TTmaster99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happen? Why no one post anymore? Start going down too much that ya gotta stuttered? LOL!

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Booty Quest
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posted February 13, 2004 11:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Booty Quest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey T, i think we're just waiting for the shorters to do their nasty business so we can get back to the task at hand...makin buttloads of cold hard cash!!! GO IBIZ-ZLE!!!

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TTmaster99
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posted February 13, 2004 11:36     Click Here to See the Profile for TTmaster99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got some quest Booty... What is MM's and PR's... Ya guys often using those two initial, what does it stand for? LOL

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Booty Quest
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posted February 13, 2004 11:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Booty Quest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i actually just learned these answers recently: Market Makers - people with huge amounts of money that have big impacts on the market swings. PR i believe is public relations - putting out news on the companies that usually effect buying. i'm sure others could give better definitions, but that's my best shot.

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TTmaster99
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posted February 13, 2004 11:49     Click Here to See the Profile for TTmaster99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL... So many different release dates of Virtual Keyboard that starting to bug me... Some say it's Mid March, some say it's this week (def not)... Some say next two weeks...

I'm wondering how much it will go up to when IBZT fully cooked... Want to get that Toyota MR2 Convertible I always wanted

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Bo14172
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posted February 13, 2004 12:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just had a sweet thought...

It is obvious GNET and other blocks of MM for the past 2 days have taken reigns of this stock and are in naked short mode to the n-th degree.

If Ken put out news Tuesday morning at 6am that IBIZ is buying back their float and lists a half dozen retailer agreements at the same time, the look on the manipulators' faces would be priceless. Those who have exposed shorts since yesterday's news would be hung out to dry before the opening bell.

He would also get my vote for man of the year..lol Be well, Bo

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Booty Quest
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posted February 13, 2004 12:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Booty Quest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on Bo!

Hey TT, you have no idea how much i want you to get that car!!!

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mediamaker
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posted February 13, 2004 12:07     Click Here to See the Profile for mediamaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So, is Tuesday they have to cover or buy back? Is that so it settles by Friday? Does the new rule cover all naked shorts or just from the 20th on? Seems like today would have more activity.

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Booty Quest
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posted February 13, 2004 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Booty Quest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know all those little rulz but i think it's low volume cuz we all know it's going up soon, so no one's selling. You couldn't pry my shares away.

okay, i gotta quit staring at this board. time to go stare at a movie screen. what a life! think i'll see Big Fish...?

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old mullet
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posted February 13, 2004 13:51     Click Here to See the Profile for old mullet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bo, i guess it is natural for investors to reply and discuss the positive of their investments and not respond to the negatives. i brought up several things about ibzt, including canesta on 5 occasions now and the response was almost non exhistant. by being fully aware of the real world our ibzt dream lives in i was able to get in at the bottom, sell for free shares and a large profit, and sit comfortably through the correction and wait again for ibzt to prove it is going to get it together and stay ahead of the competetion. ibzt is doing exactly what i predicted at the time of the big run, and has stayed in an .04 - .05 channel until they come up with lots of hard data to support a further rise. IF THEY DO THEIR JOB i think we will see a sustained price above a dime. i think vkb in israel is the weak link in the chain at this point and caused the delay in shipping. so throw all of the optimistic extrapolations in the desk drawer until we see how this complicated puzzle comes together. its a brand new picture. they are still cutting the pieces to fit. be patient.

2m free shares and holding.

uncle milty

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Originally posted by Bo14172:
Booty...

I'll only mention it here, because it seems the mere mention of any valid concern on the q-bid thread is taboo.

When loking at IBZT, many looked at the strengths and yes, considered the cons.
This is done (or should be done) on any stock. I won't rehash 1 1/2 months of events which show their strength as they are easily known. But concerns should be looked at and discussed. And it is different for each company. Concerns from Jan 1 til now have been, patent rights, company debt, product demand, retailers involved, product production & delivery.
Each concern has been fully answered to me along the way. VKB is the patent holder and IBIZ has the exclusive license with the. IBIZ is now out of debt. Product demand is very high and growing. The first of many national and global retailers was mentioned today. Production in Israel may expand to the far east as well to meet demand. It's a promising future which a lot of DD to go on.

As for Q-Bid, I posted earlier today in that forum and did not realize that 2 people posted before me with near the same concerns. It wasn't til I logged on tonight that I realized this. If 3 people thought of questions that need asked (not bashing, just questions) then I'm sure many have.
The very first thing in any product, service or in this case 24/7 gay programming, that I look for is competetion and can the mega-companies run with the idea (if not protected) quickly. In Q-Bid's case, they have a willing market, but just this week Bravo, MTV and possibly others may attempt the same. It was mentioned Q-Bid may be a subscriber service, vs the others as just part of regular cable programming. A position in Q-BID now would have me dig in every nook and cranny to see if there is any truth to a signed agreement with Time Warner. Again, my thought is Time Warner is so huge, that such a project is likely on their shelf and can be produced quickly if that is the market they want to get into. But if Time Warner uses whatever QBID has (that still isn't clear on the time of clearances, production facilities, shows, actors, etc)then you've got something big. I hope for the best outcome.
I promise I won't be posting about Q-Bid anywhere again..lol You asked and thought I'd offer my take on what you need to be digging to find out. Be well. Bo


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old mullet
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posted February 13, 2004 13:55     Click Here to See the Profile for old mullet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OilMan:
If IBZT goes to $1.70 I will tattoo it on my wifes A## !!

if ibzt hits 1.70, i'll tatoo it on both cheeks and buy a nudist camp!

uncle milty

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old mullet
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posted February 13, 2004 14:05     Click Here to See the Profile for old mullet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have had that dvd sitting here since jan 23rd, and still haven't seen it!!!! a two hour block of time is almost impossible! retirement is highly overrated. lol

uncle milty

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
i don't know all those little rulz but i think it's low volume cuz we all know it's going up soon, so no one's selling. You couldn't pry my shares away.

okay, i gotta quit staring at this board. time to go stare at a movie screen. what a life! think i'll see Big Fish...?


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Bo14172
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posted February 13, 2004 15:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings Uncle Milt...

I had the same questions in early January about Canesta, but satisfied any concern at that time with the 3 following points:

1) Although Canesta had a virtual keyboard
in 2002, VKB (the company) had already
filed a patent for this technology back
in October of 2000. It was granted to VKB
in November of 2003. Protecting this
technology was the most appealing factor
for me when researching IBIZ in early
January. Here is the link showing the
date of VKB's patent approval and
application date: http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06650318__

2) I looked up Canesta in a couple different
brokerage sites, and to the best of my
knowledge, Canesta is not a publicly
traded company. Whether they are or they
aren't though, point #1 makes this issue
moot.

3) Seizing the advantage of VKB's patent,
IBIZ is the first to market this
technology globally, with current
national and global retailers, both
storefront or e-retailers. Last night
I found a large European e-retailer
that has sites in 7-10 (not sure of the
exact at this writing) European coutries,
each site being in that country's
dialect. No other company could present
the vkb at the CES in Las Vegas, because
only IBIZ had the rights to do so by
their agreement with VKB.

Hope that helps. Hope your weekend is good.
Bo

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Bo14172
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posted February 13, 2004 16:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the list of countries this e-retailer is selling IBIZ's vkb and other IBIZ products. In each site, type "IBIZ" in the search field & hit enter. Enjoy, Bo

Belgique http://www.expansys.be/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Dänemark http://www.expansys.dk/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Deutschland http://www.expansys.de/advsearch.asp?srch=all

España http://www.expansys.es/advsearch.asp?srch=all

France http://www.expansys.fr/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Italia http://www.expansys.it/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Ireland http://www.expansys.ie/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Luxembourg http://www.expansys.lu/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Nederland http://www.expansys.nl/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Osterreich http://www.expansys.at/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Portugal http://www.expansys.pt/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Poland http://www.expansys.pl/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Switzerland http://www.expansys.ch/advsearch.asp?srch=all

UK http://www.expansys.com/advsearch.asp?srch=all

US http://www.expansys-usa.com/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Canada http://www.expansys.ca/advsearch.asp?srch=all

Australia http://www.expansys.com.au/advsearch.asp?srch=all

China http://www.expansys.cn/advsearch.asp?srch=all

New Zealand http://www.expansys.co.nz/advsearch.asp?srch=all

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Bart
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posted February 13, 2004 16:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Bart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets hold off on the PR until 10:00AM Tuesday! I am going to double my shares first thing that morning! Ameritrade takes their time putting money you send them in your account! They said it will be available first thing Tuesday! This thing could get up to .30 very quickly with any type of good PR!
Circuit City was ok but look at all the others that will be coming. And then BLUE DOCK! I had a friend over and he is a com. nut! He read about this VKB and liked it but he went nuts over the BLUE DOCK! He said he would buy the VKB on the company site and he can wait until the Blue Dock comes out! This is going to be big! Eat MONSTERS Eat!

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Love the Market
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posted February 13, 2004 16:26     Click Here to See the Profile for Love the Market     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're a little impatient with our investment here:

Check this out re: IBZT
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=1600061

Enjoy,
Steve

PS: Guys - don't forget tomorrow's Valentine's Day! Don't wanna see anyone get the proverbial frying pan thrown at 'em!

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Neo
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posted February 13, 2004 16:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting movies lol

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Bart
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posted February 13, 2004 16:45     Click Here to See the Profile for Bart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I forgot something! It was my belief
that the naked short selling could go on thru the 19th. Then the 20th we could be off and running without them! Am I wrong or what???? Eat MONSTERS Eat

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Neo
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posted February 13, 2004 17:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
after news like that I would have hopes it would have held a higher price, why would people sell this now, with all that is comeing!

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sammad
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posted February 13, 2004 17:11     Click Here to See the Profile for sammad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That movie was soo tight...I am in the Monsters situation right now cause i bought IBZT at .06...I am not gonna sale it cause i see huge potential in IBZT.

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Love the Market
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posted February 13, 2004 17:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Love the Market     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this one is cool too - for Valentine's Day!
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=1600145

Enjoy the weekend gang!
Steve

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old mullet
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posted February 13, 2004 18:26     Click Here to See the Profile for old mullet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bo, you might be interested in these broader scope patents. also click home on this link and look at who is backing canesta. they are a venture capital supported company. what do you think of the components they sell for incorporation into other devices. i wouldn't count them out, and if they were publicly traded i'd own a piece of them as well.

hope you have a good weekend too. i'm going to sleep late tomorrow, and have a cup of coffee in bed.

uncle milty

sorry, i forgot to post the link the first time. http://www.canesta.com/patents.htm


quote:
Originally posted by Bo14172:
Greetings Uncle Milt...

I had the same questions in early January about Canesta, but satisfied any concern at that time with the 3 following points:

1) Although Canesta had a virtual keyboard
in 2002, VKB (the company) had already
filed a patent for this technology back
in October of 2000. It was granted to VKB
in November of 2003. Protecting this
technology was the most appealing factor
for me when researching IBIZ in early
January. Here is the link showing the
date of VKB's patent approval and
application date: http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06650318__

2) I looked up Canesta in a couple different
brokerage sites, and to the best of my
knowledge, Canesta is not a publicly
traded company. Whether they are or they
aren't though, point #1 makes this issue
moot.

3) Seizing the advantage of VKB's patent,
IBIZ is the first to market this
technology globally, with current
national and global retailers, both
storefront or e-retailers. Last night
I found a large European e-retailer
that has sites in 7-10 (not sure of the
exact at this writing) European coutries,
each site being in that country's
dialect. No other company could present
the vkb at the CES in Las Vegas, because
only IBIZ had the rights to do so by
their agreement with VKB.

Hope that helps. Hope your weekend is good.
Bo


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[This message has been edited by old mullet (edited February 13, 2004).]

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JOED5500
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posted February 13, 2004 18:44     Click Here to See the Profile for JOED5500     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
February 13, 2004 18:25

iBIZ Technology Corp. Files Annual Report 10-KSB for 2003
PHOENIX, Feb 13, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Phoenix, Arizona, iBIZ Technology Corp. (OTC Bulletin Board: IBZT) today filed its annual report 10-KSB for the year ended October 31, 2003.

Commenting on the annual report, Ken Schilling, iBIZ President and Chief Executive Officer stated, "Since the beginning of fiscal year 2003, our team has been actively involved in redefining our product offering as well as our distribution venues. Fiscal year 2003 became a pivotal year in all aspects. We released several new ground breaking products including our revolutionary virtual keyboard, which has garnered national media attention. The company has also restructured its debt and placed its entire focus on bringing iBIZ Technology Corp. to a new level of leadership in the handheld computer accessory industry.

"Late in our fiscal period beginning September 1, 2003, iBIZ has seen a dramatic improvement in sales and orders for our products. New retailers have emerged and continue to demonstrate interest with new orders to place our products in their retail venues.

"Throughout fiscal 2003 and through today, we have been retiring both convertible debt as well as accounts payable. Today, iBIZ has retired all convertible debt with the exception of one debt holder, which has been entirely restructured affording manageability to our capital structure."

Schilling further commented, "today iBIZ Technology Corp. has emerged into a company that can continue to grow through innovations in technology, increasing revenue and a manageable debt structure. Steering the company from this point forward will be an exciting time for all of us and we look forward to the future."

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Ciao! Good Luck!!

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Love the Market
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posted February 13, 2004 19:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Love the Market     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I give the 10K a B! Remember, this is a company that was just about dead and buried 6 months ago! (Think SIRI, LU, NT, SONS, AMT, CCI, PALM, ERICY,etc. ALL were pennies a year ago !!)

Ken Schilling and Mark Perkins have done an INCREDIBLE job resurrecting Ibiz..... I, for one, can't wait to see Q's 1 and 2 this year!

Thoughts?

Steve

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opiate94
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posted February 13, 2004 19:15     Click Here to See the Profile for opiate94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love...I am glad you think this report puts a positive look on the company, b/c I couldn't figure out if it was good or bad. I rely on the good people of this board. I am anxious to see how other people think this report will impact us, we, them, etc..! Have a good holiday weekend all.

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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"

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old mullet
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posted February 13, 2004 19:35     Click Here to See the Profile for old mullet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the link to the actual 10ksb:

be ready lots of coffee to plow through it all. hell, we formed a country with less words.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1079893/000114420404001490/0001144204-04-001490.txt


uncle milty

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Neo
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posted February 13, 2004 19:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah I hear ya I been reading for who knows how long and im know where near done, lemme know what you think,

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mtakoma
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posted February 13, 2004 20:23     Click Here to See the Profile for mtakoma     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Uncle, what do think? It looks likes Canesta has a patent on a "virtual input device" that was issued in September 2003. I didn't read the details but there must be something different between the Canesta's patent and VKB's...

David

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Originally posted by old mullet:
bo, you might be interested in these broader scope patents. also click home on this link and look at who is backing canesta. they are a venture capital supported company. what do you think of the components they sell for incorporation into other devices. i wouldn't count them out, and if they were publicly traded i'd own a piece of them as well.

hope you have a good weekend too. i'm going to sleep late tomorrow, and have a cup of coffee in bed.

uncle milty

sorry, i forgot to post the link the first time. http://www.canesta.com/patents.htm


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OilMan
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posted February 13, 2004 21:34     Click Here to See the Profile for OilMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Common stock
Authorized - 5,000,000,000 shares,
par value $.001 per share
Issued and outstanding - 649,893,721 shares
Additional paid in capital
Accumulated deficit

Well that answers the O/S VS. Authorized Question..... Comments?

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OilMan
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posted February 13, 2004 21:39     Click Here to See the Profile for OilMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OUCH!
On February 24, 2003, the Articles of Incorporation were amended to increase the number of authorized shares of common stock from 450,000,000 shares to 5,000,000,000 shares.

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Love the Market
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posted February 13, 2004 21:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Love the Market     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Oilman!

I don't know why the 500 mil. figure is still around. I have personally called the transfer agent and the OS is about 2.6 billion and the float about 1.5 billion. I posted the EXACT #'s about a week ago on ONE of these Ibiz threads!! LOL

Have a good weekend,
Steve

quote:
Originally posted by OilMan:
Common stock
Authorized - 5,000,000,000 shares,
par value $.001 per share
Issued and outstanding - 649,893,721 shares
Additional paid in capital
Accumulated deficit

Well that answers the O/S VS. Authorized Question..... Comments?


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OilMan
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posted February 13, 2004 21:43     Click Here to See the Profile for OilMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you feel what I feel.... reverse split is on the way..........

As of February 11, 2004, there were 2,132,956,988 shares of common stock, par
value $0.001 outstanding. The following table sets forth certain information
regarding the beneficial ownership of our common stock as of February 11, 2004:

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OilMan
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posted February 13, 2004 21:46     Click Here to See the Profile for OilMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was aware of the 2.1 billion figure and I guess seeing that 5 billion authorized just.... anyone have a bucket I can use???

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Love the Market
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Mark Perkins and KEn Schilling have BOTH said they'd like to do a share buyback: ONCE theycan AFFORD to without hurting operating capital.

The 1 Circuit City PO is more than they had in revenue in all of 2003! this is the beginning of something VERY, Very beautiful, imo. Next Blue DOck and I'm sure they have another FLagship Product or 2 in the works!

Steve

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OilMan
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But at least the dept is under control. So I was thinking 6:1 reverse, let me adjust to 20:1 reverse

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Bo14172
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posted February 13, 2004 22:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uncle Milty,

I reviewed the patent list of Canesta and from what I reviewed none are specific to the virtual keyboard. The input device that obtained a patent in Sept has to do with sound technology that may or may not pertain to voice input (which is still a very raw technology in terms of accuracy and consistancy).

Thank you for bringing that there list of patents to our attention. I feel most assured of the patent VKB has.
Take care,
Bo

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posted February 13, 2004 22:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oilman...

It's only from posts that I have read claiming e-mails from Ken Shilling stating that what is occurring is in accordance with the business model they laid out. A reverse split would be a last resort and certain language that it would not occur.

A company buyback of the float (~1.4 bil) and strong US and foreign demand for their stock may eliminate any need for a reverse split. SIRI went through something similar and were successful. My belief is that is their intention here. Bo

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mtakoma
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posted February 13, 2004 22:58     Click Here to See the Profile for mtakoma     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bo,

Try this: http://www.canesta.com/downloads/patents/USP6614422.pdf

Seems very similar to VKB... but I'm no patent attorney...

The Canesta sound device has a different patent number.

David

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Originally posted by Bo14172:
Uncle Milty,

I reviewed the patent list of Canesta and from what I reviewed none are specific to the virtual keyboard. The input device that obtained a patent in Sept has to do with sound technology that may or may not pertain to voice input (which is still a very raw technology in terms of accuracy and consistancy).

Thank you for bringing that there list of patents to our attention. I feel most assured of the patent VKB has.
Take care,
Bo


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Bo14172
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posted February 14, 2004 00:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mt...

There is no listing for the patent you linked in Canesta's site. In their site, on the left side in the Technology section, the patents are listed beginning with the most recent. There are 2 they list in January 2004 which has nothing to do with vkb, and the only listing I see in Sept 2003 is the listing that Uncle Milty posted, with is a noise/voice activated system.

In no other place on their site did I see downloads. I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious how your link is from their site, when even they don't list the patent anywhere that I could see.
And you're right, it seems similar, but also seems to focus on being intregral with the hardward of systems. I don't see any news of them taking this to market, have any business model to display or mass produce this. Thanks for any insight on where specifically in their site you were able to access this link. Bo

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In digging further, this may well be why haven't heard from Canesta at all. This is from their FAQ of their site:

"What is included with the Canesta Keyboard Prototyping Program and what is the cost?

Companies enrolled in the Canesta Keyboard Prototyping Program receive 1) three complete sets of the Canesta Keyboard Perception Chipset (Sensor Module, Pattern Projector module and IR Light Source module), 2) Application Test Bed (a tool utilized for customizing keyboard layouts and conducting usability testing) and 3) Supporting software including sample code and drivers, 4) Extensive documentation, and 5) Up to 160 hours of device integration support.

There is a $50,000 NRE charge to cover the costs associated with the components, tools, and technical support provided as part of the program."

$50,000 cost just to test...then what? With add'l component, manufacuting, marketing, sales & delivery costs to intergrate, computer and pda companies will lose price competetiveness. I would think such a unit could add $200-$400 to the retail cost of a computer or pda.
IBIZ's vkb, priced at $99.00 is not only a great price for the consumer, but to computer and pda manufacturers who now won't have to be concerned adding business cost and markup with integrating a costly vkb like Canesta's. The $99.00 price is sweet and leverages a huge competitive advantage.
The Dell's, Gateway's and Apple's many want to offer IBIZ's vkb as a product option if the initial global reaction over the next 45 days catches on like wildfire.

Nite all...Bo

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where did you get that dell and gate way thing ..... is that opinion or did you see that some where?

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oil, Why would they need so many autherized any more, there debt is paid off or so I thought was the case. ken said that they would only be diluting one more time and it was supposed to be a relitively small number. is that why you are saying there will be a reverse split. Are they going to do that to get rid of all the autherized and consolidate down to one number. sounds good anyway! whats the deal?

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Bo
MT's post is correct.
I checked it out and indeed, Canesta's patent is extremely similar to VKB's. However, it is a different technology. Canesta utilizes sound sensors to calculate the distance between the impact point and the sensor to determine which key has been struck whereas VKB uses CMOS sensors to determine which laser grid has been "broken" to determine which input is relevant.
In essence, if you use Canesta's device, you'll have to strike the surface pretty hard or the sound sensor won't pick it up. I think people will start suing Canesta for sore fingers

The link MT gave refers to the same patent as this link htt p://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=canesta.ASNM.&OS=AN/canesta&RS=AN/canesta

Canesta's patent was approved Sep 2, 2003. http://www.canesta.com/downloads/patents/USP6614422.pdf
VKB's patent was approved Nov 18, 2003. http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06650318__

It seems to me that the Canesta patent is for the technology to be embedded into devices so that they'll have the virtual keyboard feature instead of relying on conventional keyboards for input. The layout of Canesta's virtual keyboard is also different from VKB's.

VKB is adopting the plug-and-play approach, which IMO is better. It is more versatile in the sense it could be used with virtually any device with an input port.
Also, sound recognition technology is slower (light travels faster than sound), more complex (try using the device on a plane) and harder to implement.

Canesta will need to spend more time in R&D and costs to create a workable model with various companies (like NEC), whereas VKB is independent in its development.

I guess this also explains why VKB has production of the virtual keyboard ahead of Canesta even though it has less funding and R&D backing.

IMO, VKB is more brilliant
To put it simply, Canesta is essentially saying that it invented revolutionary wheels which could only be used for manufacturing cars. VKB, on the other hand is saying they invented similar but even better wheels which could be used on any vehicle which may or may not require wheels.

I could be wrong on this, but based on my computer engineering knowledge, it should be correct to a significant degree.

If anybody has anymore insight into this, please post it

Quoting Bart, "Eat monster(s) EAT!!!!"

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mt...

There is no listing for the patent you linked in Canesta's site. In their site, on the left side in the Technology section, the patents are listed beginning with the most recent. There are 2 they list in January 2004 which has nothing to do with vkb, and the only listing I see in Sept 2003 is the listing that Uncle Milty posted, with is a noise/voice activated system.

In no other place on their site did I see downloads. I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious how your link is from their site, when even they don't list the patent anywhere that I could see.
And you're right, it seems similar, but also seems to focus on being intregral with the hardward of systems. I don't see any news of them taking this to market, have any business model to display or mass produce this. Thanks for any insight on where specifically in their site you were able to access this link. Bo

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Outstanding post PL

Thank you for the technical input on this issue as well. Bo

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quote:
Originally posted by Bart:
Lets hold off on the PR until 10:00AM Tuesday! I am going to double my shares first thing that morning! Ameritrade takes their time putting money you send them in your account! They said it will be available first thing Tuesday! This thing could get up to .30 very quickly with any type of good PR!
Circuit City was ok but look at all the others that will be coming. And then BLUE DOCK! I had a friend over and he is a com. nut! He read about this VKB and liked it but he went nuts over the BLUE DOCK! He said he would buy the VKB on the company site and he can wait until the Blue Dock comes out! This is going to be big! Eat MONSTERS Eat!


What pr are you refering to here Bart, from your past posts I believe you have a pretty big position already. You know the story of too many eggs in one basket. I hate to be the voice of reason but look at all the eye in the sky posts on the qbid to a penny posts. It made its pop but it doesnt have a fart in the wind chance of getting much higher. Its going to take a deal with wal mart,a share buyback,great revenue #`s to get a good pop for IBZT......all just my guess as are yours but I am just taking into account how far we have come already. Further delays on the vkb will drift the share price lower as will a potential reverse split that may be looming. That would really impact pps. Some are looking for a surge of the sec rule regarding naked short selling. Do you think they will wait till its too late or have taken care of it before they get hosed........come on these are smart guys I have my opinion on it and I beleive its a zero pps mover. I think we have a great base at the .04 level and it would be nice to move off this with the news that releases. With so many shares out there folks like you and I and alot on this board who are holding for better things are just the minority. The masses are just daytrading this thing and any sustained pop will be hard to sustain. Just a few thoughts.

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Sync (or anyone), along that thought, I was wondering how many people out there actually hold a ton of shares, like a mil or over, in this company. Can you find this out anywhere, or can we guess, or am I asking an idiotic question! lol I am really more curious than anything. I my self hold 60K, and I think this is a lot! But then again I am new, and scared of this sh@t!! lol GLTUA!

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there is a post on this board where every one listed how many shares they have, you can check that out if you like, of course I have added to mine since then and im sure so have many others, I dont know anything about qbid but I do know that for the first time Ibzt is going to be making some serious dough, debt has been retired (with dilution of course) but this has not caused a significant price drop. Why is this? I think that the dilution and the natural reduction of value of shares that should follow it has been counteracted by the massive interest in this company because of news coverage and the fact that this thing is just getting started!
my opinion. looking for others...
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I am sitting in the 1.5 million range with another 100k in cash to invest if I see it fall in a good investment area..I think a .035 will have me buying another multi million dollar block but not at these prices. It seems it can barely sustain these levels. I think our good friend Bart has stated he is in a 2 million plus range right now. Alot of folks like myself bought low. I bought between .0056-.0066 and then again at .021 and then bought a few more at .0495. If some big news hits we will have plenty of time to buy more. With so many outstanding shares it does not move like a rocket ship and we don`t have the extended trading to worry about so its pretty esy to get in if big news hits. You would have to pay ahead of the price to get in though and thats risky. In the cases of the shares I bought I paid ahead of the ask and was filled very fast.

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quote:
Originally posted by Neo:
there is a post on this board where every one listed how many shares they have, you can check that out if you like, of course I have added to mine since then and im sure so have many others, I dont know anything about qbid but I do know that for the first time Ibzt is going to be making some serious dough, debt has been retired (with dilution of course) but this has not caused a significant price drop. Why is this? I think that the dilution and the natural reduction of value of shares that should follow it has been counteracted by the massive interest in this company because of news coverage and the fact that this thing is just getting started!
my opinion. looking for others...
what do you think?


I think you are dead on the money Neo

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