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Race to a Million
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posted April 30, 2004 20:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Race to a Million     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say it'll run up to .08 without PR next week and on the first run out after PR .15 high. GLTA!!!

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CashCowMoo
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posted April 30, 2004 20:59     Click Here to See the Profile for CashCowMoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so now that its in stock this weekend customers can now finally purchase the product? i wonder if that many people know its in stock. what is the formula for predicting PPS....something with outstanding shares being divided by something...i forget...someone help me out here!

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opiate94
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posted May 01, 2004 00:06     Click Here to See the Profile for opiate94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neo..bite your tongue...I mean keyboard!

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Originally posted by Neo:
How much would it suck if it came out and the stock only ran to like .06. lol Now that would suck!

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flex
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posted May 01, 2004 01:14     Click Here to See the Profile for flex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who will be the first to post on the " stocks OVER 0.10 " board??

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whizknock
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posted May 01, 2004 01:55     Click Here to See the Profile for whizknock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeman1:
What is the prediction on this stock. I keep seeing .06, .08 or .15. Does anyone see this going to $5 or higher? Just wondering.

Some people see it going way past a dollar. Here's one veiwpoint from another board.
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From: "euoraven" <euoraven@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 02:52:05 -0000
Subject: [ibizinvestors] Re: Vkb news great!!! REVENUES WHEN REPORTED WILL

--- anthony, i can touch the vkb.... you know what i mean....
The actual piece that transmits laser is touchable... The
applications for the vkb do provide many uniques opportunities for
all concerned with the germs associated with traditional keyboards...
I wouldn't be surprised if they sell a good percent to the hospitals
and such along with the bluedock tech! Also pda growth projection
for next few years bode extremely well for ibzt and pda industry. Not
to mention vkb can be used for home pc's and cellphones. Eventually
as cellphones and pdas are combined the revenue stream will be
expotential.
I am assuming we have about little under a billion people living in
N America alone. I did not research actual population but this is my
rough guess.... If someone has time to research i would appreciate.

The ibzt buisness model is quite ingenious. For example in order to
limit the cost of inputs associated with running the manufacturing
side of its products...Ibzt subs out the production and some of the
quality assurnce testing.... This was one reason for the delay, they
wanted to make sure everything was 100% smooth befotre it was
released. By doing this they reduced the amount of capitol needed to
bring these techs to market... I think ibzt could easily sell 30
million of these keyboards by Christmas (production will have to be
steped up but will be easy to do with increased capitol from
revenues)... My low estimate i am using is a poultry 10 million!
Assuming all costs.... 20 dollars of 99 goes to cover costs of goods
sold.... So 79 dollars goes to ibzt when considering this as a
example the profit margins are quite high. With about 2billion share
out this gives ibzt a value of .253 per share using no pe multiple.
Multiply it by a pe of 15 which is low for tech stocks and you get a
share price of 3.80... This does not include other products or other
royalties recieved for patents distribution agreements and such...
Keep in mind increasing demand for satelite radio and soon to be
released virtual pen! Stay with me>>>> I am guilty of bad grammar
and prefer to us my own unique stream of conscious writing style!!!!

Moving on

Now lets assume they only sell 1 million vkbs... get a sp worth .0253
now times a low pe of 15 and we get a share price of .389..(again not
including other revenue streams! well this quite long winded but
just wanted to illustrate the potential here and my reasoning for
stocks price in future!

This is all my opinion please check math and tell me what you think.
I know a additional 100 million shares came on the market in april
causing minimal diloutive effect but creating additional capitol
resources until new rev stream comes in. If any of my numbers are way
off please let me know..
i am sure they are using a just in time delivery system....this way
they dont have a overstock of inventory sitting on shelves.... Right
now demand is higher then supply as Full scale Production is just
begining.

Well i hope this provides material for positive discourse
HAVE A HELL OF A WEEKEND ALL!!!!!!

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whizknock
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posted May 01, 2004 02:00     Click Here to See the Profile for whizknock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Neo! I don't see us getting stuck at .06!

Dragon doesn't see that either!

http://tinyurl.com/32kwb


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be_cool
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posted May 01, 2004 05:38     Click Here to See the Profile for be_cool     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOW HIGH CAN/WILL IT GO ?

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posted May 01, 2004 06:03     Click Here to See the Profile for be_cool     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

DON'T FORGET the other products like Blue Dock, pocket PC satellite radio, VKB for cellphones.... if they will come out in the 4 QTR (in autumn or by the end of the year) Blue Dock alone will be (maybe) bigger than the keyboard, imo.

So, how high will it go? How long are you willing to stay in??? If you're looking for that magic .1 or .2 and that's all it could happen very quickly. I think a lot of folks are looking for the immediate jump for the stratosphere...nice dream, and if it happens everyone who stays in will be right jiggy. I got into this because I thought it had excellant possibilities in the long term. I'm not so interested in that magic .1 or .2. I think it could very well pop up to that soon but there are so many players that have their eyes on that number that when it does get there a big sell off should be expected. I plan for this ahead of time so that I don't get spooked by the hype and the sudden drop and sell. Unfortunately I can't afford to jump in and out and pick up shares so I must find good looking stocks cheap and ride them out. I'm thinking that there will be a big push up to about .13 in the very near future followed by a retreat back to .08. from there it will bounce back and forth with high volume until it settles around .1 then a slow steady rise through the summer with another big push in the fall with the advent of the Bluedock. By Xmas I'm hoping for .8-.9 and depending in 4th qtr results and the Bluedock release I would expect a rise up near $2 by 4th qtr next year. If all that holds true the next goal would be AMEX or NASDAQ picking it up then mutual funds buying in around $5. After 5yrs price will be $7.40 after 3 splits. Pipe dreams? Maybe. If I'm wrong you're all invited to chew me out in 5yrs. If I'm right...I might let the group know the name of my island in the Carribean for a reunion!! Happy Trails! ;-)

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FurrySound
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posted May 01, 2004 13:59     Click Here to See the Profile for FurrySound     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 5/1/2004 at 1:58:55 PM EDT is

293,144,940

Source: http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

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vic102482
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posted May 02, 2004 00:48     Click Here to See the Profile for vic102482     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IBZT will have very big gains monday!!

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 00:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That I know already its the how big that has me pondering....how big in deed?

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sync2112
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posted May 02, 2004 11:15     Click Here to See the Profile for sync2112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey anyone else having problems getting on Atomic Bobs site?

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whizknock
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posted May 02, 2004 11:20     Click Here to See the Profile for whizknock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neo:
That I know already its the how big that has me pondering....how big in deed?

I don't know off the top of my head what Mondays close will be but I'm betting this week we go through .08!

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 12:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sync2112:
Hey anyone else having problems getting on Atomic Bobs site?

it asks me to download something, i clicked cancel and it wont load with out it if anyone else finds out what that file is let me know

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 12:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I belive we should easly get through .08....the comon number i keep hearing is .15... i am not sure where that comes from but i hope we see it this week...a 100 percent gain is not that much considering all the other stocks i have been watching and how they are handling with simmilar news... vcsy went up last week 150 percent because they got a patent for something.... ibiz ran to .08 on what,speculation that they would come out with the keyboards eventually..well here they are it should serpase that run cause this is a defenate...excuse my pitiful spelling.... is there anyone on here that has been trading pennies for a really long time and who can say from experience what tends to happen in a case like this!!!!

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whizknock
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posted May 02, 2004 14:17     Click Here to See the Profile for whizknock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neo!

I agree. They ran to .08 on a hope & now we're faced with the reality. I hope it climbs slow for a couple days & then rockets. I will take some profits but intend to hold a major core holding.

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 15:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
same for me going to take a lil back out to protect capital and then let the rest ride. The one price that stands out to me is .3 I belive we will get there this year. That is some what of a target for me but I also plan on holding some shares past that point

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 15:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it will rocket monday morning because anyone who has any interest in this has found out that they keyboards are in stock from the web page, over the weekend. alot of people were just staying away from this untill this time and now every one is going to want back in before the run, and they are going to cause the run!

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Neo
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posted May 02, 2004 16:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One question i have and perhaps some one here can answer it is if I order a keyboard is it compadable with all the devices listed at the bottom of ther order page or only for the one that I select when ordering...I have a pc {I would liek to use it with but I also have a sony clie that it could be used with... would I need to sets of software and 2 difrent cables or is it all compatable with the same stuff....I was unable to find an answer on there page, maybe some one else has already checked this out!

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sync2112
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posted May 02, 2004 20:58     Click Here to See the Profile for sync2112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Neo.was that.30 as in the price that stands out to you? Is that the price you will take some off the table or long before? I would not be suprised if we recieved a pr tommorow but you know what it would be ok if we do not. I think we can do a slow crawl upward and that may be better and then let the press roll. Now to me its the marketing agreements imo that will relly set this afire. In every stock I have owned that is the catalist to make it fly.

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Love the Market
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posted May 02, 2004 21:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Love the Market     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FINALLY! Been away at 2 of my kid's college graduations all weekend, and just saw In Stock on website. Looks like the value of the IBZT shares we gave my oldest son Friday (That I bought at bargain price Thursday!) will multiply before his very eyes in the morning! I've been trying to tell him though - view this as 'beginner's luck' - because I could search and research for another 3-6 months to find another sub-penny or penny with this potential. I've told him NOT to expect this all the time!

Good Luck to all us longs - and to all the newbies too!

Steve

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whizknock
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posted May 02, 2004 22:17     Click Here to See the Profile for whizknock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
FINALLY!
Good Luck to all us longs - and to all the newbies too!

Steve


Good luck to you as well! Now let's see about getting through that roof!!!!

"These are the good old days!"

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Neo
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posted May 03, 2004 06:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Neo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sync2112:
Hey Neo.was that.30 as in the price that stands out to you? Is that the price you will take some off the table or long before? I would not be suprised if we recieved a pr tommorow but you know what it would be ok if we do not. I think we can do a slow crawl upward and that may be better and then let the press roll. Now to me its the marketing agreements imo that will relly set this afire. In every stock I have owned that is the catalist to make it fly.

I have a gtc in to sell a smaller percentage before .3 just as a protective measure, but I do belive we will see .3 this yeat and I will be holding shares at that point and beyond..... and even what I sell before that point, if it retraced I will put it back in again.

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joesturbo
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posted May 03, 2004 06:26     Click Here to See the Profile for joesturbo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch is pop this morning then draw back this afternoon - maybe ending up around .10 any takers?

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CashCowMoo
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posted May 03, 2004 08:19     Click Here to See the Profile for CashCowMoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a limit order to sell at .13

perhaps im being to optimistic, but i dont want to sell it that badly. just thought if it did hit .13 i would be very happy and can re-invest into other holdings

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laughingotter0
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posted May 03, 2004 09:03     Click Here to See the Profile for laughingotter0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have seen Whizknock's analysis of IBZT's potential revenue stream based on differing levels of unit sales. There are several problems with his financial analysis: 1) IBZT will not receive $100 per VKB sold because a) most of the VKBs will be sold by other retailers (Circuit City and the like) and they will not be paying IBZT $100 when they are selling for $100- IBZT mights see $40 on a gross basis. 2) While the $20 estimate for cost of production may be accurate, there are substantial other costs that have to be covered by the sales price - transportation, accounting, substantial research and development costs relating to new products, administration, etc. etc.

There is no way that IBZT will generate the level of income Whiz estimates.

This is not bash IBZT. I own a lot of shares and look forward to the share price increasing. However, it would be more reasonable to estimate that IBZT will gross about $40 per VKB sold and that it will bring about 10-20% of that to the bottom line (and even that net margin is high for a high tech manufacturer of a retail product). At $8 of income per VKB, IBZT will net $8 million for every 1 million VKBs sold or $.003 per share (assuming about 3 billion shares outstanding). At a 15 multiple (probably very low for a "growth stock" in the high tech field) that's about $.045 in market value per million VKBs sold. Everyone can do the math from here based on their estimates of the number of VKBs that will be sold.

This is all to say that estimates in the dollars per share are a long, long, long way from being a practical reality - many other successful products will have to be introduced beyond even blue dock.

Best luck to all and may this week see a massive upturn in the price of IBZT.

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posted May 03, 2004 09:11     Click Here to See the Profile for sync2112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a realistic manor I believe the best we can see today would be .05.even with a pr that the vkb is shipping. Its the marketing agreements tyhat set these stocks afire.imo

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TimN88
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posted May 03, 2004 09:42     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CAn someone post L2's for this?

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Nikodemis
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posted May 03, 2004 09:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikodemis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not a bad start this morning...

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TimN88
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posted May 03, 2004 09:44     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just picked up somemore shares at .0365. buy went thorugh as soon as i clicked send...

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platapuss
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posted May 03, 2004 09:52     Click Here to See the Profile for platapuss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not bashing...but where is the breakout?

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lurch
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posted May 03, 2004 09:54     Click Here to See the Profile for lurch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Already 17 million in volume... do we have some early profit taking from Fridays late run?

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CB
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posted May 03, 2004 10:10     Click Here to See the Profile for CB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CAn someone post L2's for this?

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TimN88
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posted May 03, 2004 10:18     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
News!!
finally... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040503/lam084_1.html

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posted May 03, 2004 10:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Nostradamus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here we go everyone ... get ready

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TimN88
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posted May 03, 2004 10:20     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i bought this **** just in time!
Can someone post L2's to this one?
TIA

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Nikodemis
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posted May 03, 2004 10:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikodemis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too. got in at 0.037. here we go sweet profits.

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chessco
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posted May 03, 2004 10:23     Click Here to See the Profile for chessco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please fasten your seat-belts and make sure any electronic device is turned on.

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FurrySound
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posted May 03, 2004 10:25     Click Here to See the Profile for FurrySound     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup. Knocking on $0.04's door now.

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darogo
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quote:
Originally posted by TimN88:
News!!
finally... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040503/lam084_1.html

i love this board. i jumped in friday right before the end bell. now with the news....

thanks for the heads up everyone....

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Nikodemis
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posted May 03, 2004 10:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikodemis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you guys think will be a realistic ceiling for today? i haven't been watching ibzt and i don't know how she runs...

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Shushan
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I have been long on this for quite some time. I am pleased that our time has finally arrived and that I can move up in the world from licking empty soup cans to eating ramen noodles every night.
Oh the joys of student loans....
Though I digress. I see purpose in today's PR as we're right on the verge of breaking 4 cents at this very moment. There will be no dipping below that for sometime methinks...

Daniel K

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TimN88
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posted May 03, 2004 10:30     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IT seems to be having some trouble getting to .04, but i dont have L2's so i cant see the whole picture.

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posted May 03, 2004 10:32     Click Here to See the Profile for TimN88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The volume just doubled (from 20 mil to 40+ mil) in 15 minutes.

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posted May 03, 2004 10:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Nostradamus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm hoping it will hit .055 today

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YunGFree
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posted May 03, 2004 10:33     Click Here to See the Profile for YunGFree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just kicked the .04 door down

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cheesehead
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posted May 03, 2004 10:36     Click Here to See the Profile for cheesehead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you guys see 25,000 for .08, or was that just a blip on my streamer? FINALLY BABY!

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Special J
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The heavy resistance above .0405 has caused some selling it looks like....come on IBZT and bust through that!

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chessco
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This first run should span over a 2-3 days period, because except for a few day-traders and people taking profits (very few), there just aren't a lot of sellers.
Most people interested in this stock know that we're just at the beginning of a stream of good PRs that will push it up and up.:
- First this PR,
- Numbers for the last "quarter" (feb-apr)
will be good. Easily 100% increase in sales from last year.
- News of people actually getting their VKB,
- News of Circuit City receiving their VKB,
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Newbies watch closely on the prices;
yet, pros, on the volume

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