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I'm dumbfounded. They are currently talking about how the Democratic ticket has zero years of executive goverance.
Hasn't John McCain only been a senator?
According to what I'm hearing Sarah Palin should be the candidate for president because according to their logic McCain isn't qualified either.
Oh, and one other thing. Bush was Governor of Texas, look where that got us.
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Giuliani tearing it up! What a pit bull! I loved his speech. Palin....lookin sexy! Lets see what she has to say
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Her energy approach is sound and appropriate, and her remarks about the opponent are rather humerous in regards to sheep and self designed presidential seals.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Her energy approach is sound and appropriate, and her remarks about the opponent are rather humerous in regards to sheep and self designed presidential seals.
"Sound and appropriate"? How's that, when they are just a rehash of the same fictions and fallacies that have gotten us into this mess to start with?
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Game, Set, Match for McCain/Palin! Even the liberal media on CNN was stunned by her excellent performance. Osama made a HUGE mistake when he didn't take Hillary as his running mate. That was a mistake of MONUMENTAL proportions. When Campbell Brown on CNN is talking nice about Palin, you KNOW that the dems are in big trouble.
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She should handle domestic policy while McCain handles foreign.
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Game, Set, Match for McCain/Palin! Even the liberal media on CNN was stunned by her excellent performance. Osama made a HUGE mistake when he didn't take Hillary as his running mate. That was a mistake of MONUMENTAL proportions. When Campbell Brown on CNN is talking nice about Palin, you KNOW that the dems are in big trouble.
i bet Hillary gets involved now... she's the likely Dem to go after her....
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Game, Set, Match for McCain/Palin! Even the liberal media on CNN was stunned by her excellent performance. Osama made a HUGE mistake when he didn't take Hillary as his running mate. That was a mistake of MONUMENTAL proportions. When Campbell Brown on CNN is talking nice about Palin, you KNOW that the dems are in big trouble.
Really, She gave a speech. Is that all it takes? I agree she did it well but the true test has not yet begun.
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Oh what a catfight that would be...H. Clinton and Palin? OoOOOooooo it would get nasty! I love it!
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"i don't think she has a clue what McCain has set her up for..."
I don't think she has clue, period....and it doesn't matter if someone else set her up or not.
Moreover:
" She's the governor of Alaska -- a state with a population of 670,000. Her entire state has about as many people as Memphis, Tennessee, the country's 17th-largest city.
So, 16 U.S. mayors -- including Dallas' very own Republican, Tom Leppert -- have more constituents than Sarah Palin. Of course, she has her own mayoral pedigree, in Wasilla, Alaska, population 8,500." (http://dallasmorningviews****.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/governor-of-ala.h tml)
Also, there are 75 "counties" in the country with more population than Alaska! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._counties_by_population), Most Of those have financial restrictions and problems that Alaska doesn't have and certainly with gang and racial problems to deal with that Alaska doesn't have.
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Not to worry, Hillary will be largely quiet from this point forward. She will only do what benefits her from a PR standpoint, but make no mistake - Hillary would like Obama to lose in a BIG WAY! She still wants to be president and Obama's failure will speed that along. You can be sure that Bill and Hillary will do everything possible to ensure that happens.
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He talks to God, sort of like dubya does. Gets direct massages and has an instantaneous question and answer hot-line to heaven. (At least he believes it is God. Actually, it is any hard line out of touch with reality far right-wing extremist radio loudmouth or the RNC talking points. whichever comes first.)
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No, didn't need God to tell me that Hillary wants Osama Obama to lose. That's just common sense (something we still have here in the midwest).
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: No, didn't need God to tell me that Hillary wants Osama Obama to lose. That's just common sense (something we still have here in the midwest).
except, thats not common sense...thats PMS lack of sense
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My point exactly - you guys are nothing by gibberish and childish attacks? Got ANYTHING useful to say?
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: My point exactly - you guys are nothing by gibberish and childish attacks? Got ANYTHING useful to say?
i see that Palin is like crack to you PM...
you and half the conventioneers.
her speech was "electrifying" to some people.
but i have news for you.
it is not electrifying to the last 10% McCain needs to win the election.
as a matter of fact? if Mccain needed to rally his own conventioneers in this way? he had already lost.
the mere fact that you feel compelled to call Obama names every time you mention his shows that we are dealing at the Jr High level.
in the next few weeks? Palin will be dimsantled and sent back to Alaska.
she's left too many enemies who have been quiet since small town politics is often face to face combat. she's moved into the biggest arena, and the first thing she did was attack the media.
Ronald Reagan never attacked the media on his way up. That's something you ONLY do after you've been elected, and you don't have to run again.
McCain needed a pitbull with lipstick, he got one. The problem with dogfighting is, well, have you ever seen a dog after one?
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Glass, you don't seem to understand what happened last night. Palin's speech picked up not only the base but the female vote! Even the left leaning women on CNN liked her. Osama Obama is in a lot of trouble.
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You keep saying that she picked up the female vote. How do you know this? I cannot see any woman voting for her just because she is a woman, especially when her views on women's issue are completely different than most other than the far right.
She spoke to the evangelical right last night. Besides which women in this country aren't as stupid as you and many in the far right believe. They will not make a decision based on one speech given at a Republican Convention.
She proved that given 4 days in seclusion she can learn how to give a speech on a national stage and continue the same type of politically divisive rherotic that has been used for years.
Liking a person and actually voting for them are 2 completely different things. I don't disllike her at all, I like John McCain the man but my vote will be based on who has the best plan to get this country out of the mess we are in.
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Glass, you don't seem to understand what happened last night. Palin's speech picked up not only the base but the female vote! Even the left leaning women on CNN liked her. Osama Obama is in a lot of trouble.
yes i do know what happened last night PM...
i grew up in a very political family...
my father was the mayor of a town about the size of the town she was...(and president of the county young republicans etc)
i know exactly what her kids are going thru, i went thru it myself...
right now? the Democrats are spending a ton of CASH interviewing every single person in her town and every person that ever hinted of having a grudge with her, and there's plenty. they are combing thru her whole families finances. including her sister who is starting the gas station....
you have no idea what she did last night. she bought herself more greif than she could ever imagine...
and i had already read enough to know that she has plenty to hide before that speech last night. watch, you'll see..
you don't pee on the media on your first date...
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Anything intelligent to say Bdgee? Anything?
Yep, PM is a tactless name calling insulting jerk, with hardly a grain of intellect and not even that much manners.
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LOL. budge, i'm serious, McCains prep people threw her right into the pit.
she comes from a state where the GOP is and has been in charge for years. all of her experience is in-fighting within her own party. Alaska politics do not equate to national politics in any way shape or form....
she has no idea what she's gotten herself into...
McCain picked her because he knows Obama and Biden can't attack her directly. remember when the "boys" attacked Hillary?
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You know, for all you Obama fans out there I have a serious question. Right now I am along with many others on the fence 50-50 with this election.
When it comes to Obama, why do you trust this guy? I mean seriously. No McCain slams, no Alaska jokes just Obama. What makes you so sure he is the savior of this nation.
Because I cant figure it out. He can give a good speech, he talks about change and everyone loves to hear it.
Was Alaska the 57th state?
Now if you ask me if I think McCain will really turn Washington upside down I would say no. Is Palin qualified to step in as President if this goes bad for McCain? No, and its just going to have to be another case of on the job training. However, I doubt she is going to let anyone push or boss her around! Ive said before...she is gorgeous and smiles a lot, but she also comes off as a woman who could turn from 0 to bitc% in 2 seconds!!!! So watch out!!!
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I agree with all you say, glass. She has no notion what she is in for. I don't think she even has a glimmer of why Mcbush actually picked her and truly believes her Alaska experience might parallel what is coming. Sad......so sad....
Now, though, do you have pen I can borrow, just in case that kinky lil' sweet thnaaag does maybe have an empty slot on that card? We can get back to being political after I've had a chance at researching her private techniques....heh heh heh .....
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: You know, for all you Obama fans out there I have a serious question. Right now I am along with many others on the fence 50-50 with this election.
When it comes to Obama, why do you trust this guy? I mean seriously. No McCain slams, no Alaska jokes just Obama. What makes you so sure he is the savior of this nation.
Because I cant figure it out. He can give a good speech, he talks about change and everyone loves to hear it.
Was Alaska the 57th state?
Now if you ask me if I think McCain will really turn Washington upside down I would say no. Is Palin qualified to step in as President if this goes bad for McCain? No, and its just going to have to be another case of on the job training. However, I doubt she is going to let anyone push or boss her around! Ive said before...she is gorgeous and smiles a lot, but she also comes off as a woman who could turn from 0 to bitc% in 2 seconds!!!! So watch out!!!
i'm more less where you are CCM...
i wanted Mccain back in '00 and couldn't figure out why Dubya was chosen.
now we are where we are.
i watched Obama's acceptance speech with young people from jr high to college age...
the youngest of the crew (jr high) said after the speech and i quote, "I like watching him give speeches, he makes me feel good." a few short questions told me that this person feels good about THEMSELF afterwards...
now, ask yourself? did you feel good abut yourself last night after Palins speech?
MCCain may be able to accomplish that tonight, but Palin didn't even try to go there last night...
that's the choice people have right now, and that's about it, i don't see much else to choose on...
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: You know, for all you Obama fans out there I have a serious question. Right now I am along with many others on the fence 50-50 with this election.
When it comes to Obama, why do you trust this guy? I mean seriously. No McCain slams, no Alaska jokes just Obama. What makes you so sure he is the savior of this nation.
Because I cant figure it out. He can give a good speech, he talks about change and everyone loves to hear it.
Was Alaska the 57th state?
Now if you ask me if I think McCain will really turn Washington upside down I would say no. Is Palin qualified to step in as President if this goes bad for McCain? No, and its just going to have to be another case of on the job training. However, I doubt she is going to let anyone push or boss her around! Ive said before...she is gorgeous and smiles a lot, but she also comes off as a woman who could turn from 0 to bitc% in 2 seconds!!!! So watch out!!!
I like you am still on the fence. To answer your question why I might lean toward Obama over McCain/Palin:
I would say based on what I've seen, read and researched that Obama is a Diplomat. That is something that has sadly been missing for quite a few years. I have never subscribed to the shoot first ask questions later theory. The McCain of today, if you believe his message recently, is in the mold of Bush. We are going to war and stay there until there is "Victory". There is such a thing as a shallow victory, where you win the war but lose more in winning it than you gain. From reading what both candidates will do on the economy, I feel Obama has a better plan. Yes it might hurt investor by raising the Capital gains but from what I see in the market not many people hold a stock for a year so we are already paying. I'm also in favor of taxing companies that outsource their labor overseas, which Obama supports. Outsourcing IMO, is no different than offshore tax havens. McCain is also supportive of a 50 cents a gallon tax on Gasoline over and above the taxes already paid on Gasoline. SO, IMO, that would pretty much offset his tax cuts.
IMO, the problems we are having in the World today with Russia, that Bush/Cheney are attempting to escalate, in the middle east and in south/central America are because we have not used enough diplomacy. We have in a sense told the world we are right and you are wrong. Today's world is different. It more of a Global economy, we need to attract more partners and less enemies. We already are giving huge amounts of money in forgein aid. The more we push our agenda overseas the more money we end up sending overseas. I'm not saying we become pushovers but that we give diplomacy a chance to work instead of ultimatums.
My reservations about Obama have been his lack of experience on the National level, well that is kind of moot now since McCain decided to put Palin on the ticket and created a very real possibility of her actually becoming President. He's 72 Yrs old. Yes his mother is doing fine in her 90's but she hasn't gone through the physical pain and suffering that he has. It does take a toll, especially when you add the pressure of the Presidency on top of that.
I doubt whether either candidate will dig us out of the hole we are in during their 4 yrs, it's just too deep. So I then have to make a decision of which will do the best job to recreate the image of America. In that respect I have to give the edge to Obama. That could change in the next few months.
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