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That's the problem Milliam, we don't really know what we own if anything.
all i know for sure is that i own 15 million useless pieces of paper right now. that is the only thing we know for sure.
We have no disclosure of what TMM owns or does not own, because we have never received an audit of that company. all we know for sure is that they own a very good concept for a gay television station that has been run into the ground, at least financially.
I hope Frank does get taken to court and charged for something, and is thrown into jail. However, that is not going to get anyone back their money.
I cant see Fan getting into any trouble. he has at least tried to get us the info about the company, but was left with a real mess.
I would love to know what the deal was in which Fan acquired control of this company. I'm sure he must have spent some of his own money to gain the market share that he has of this company.
I'm certain it was not just given to him.
There is something that still does not fit together for me.
Why would someone take control of a company and 2 months later state there is nothing he can do.
This does not wash well with me.
He was originally introduced as an investor, and was appointed as an interim president of the company, which would make sense if someone invested a pile of money into a company. then to take control of the company only a couple weeks later, he must have known what he was getting into. Was he fooled by Frank?
you cant tell me he that this man invested a pile of money without knowing what he was getting into. So is there something he didn't know and was deceived into buying this? If so then should he not be going after Frank?
If he is not going after Frank, then is he making it look worse then it is to encourage to get out of the company real cheap so he can take it private?
Or is he completely out of his mind and bought in and didn't do his research, and can afford to loose the money for a tax right off?
none of this makes sense.
something smells. I still think that this may be a ploy to take the company private.
what kills me is we are not hearing anymore carriers dropping out. They are still broadcasting, is this just broadcasting too the end of the month to honour any subscriptions that are paid up for the month, and then cut the signal? I don't think they are that loyal to the viewers if they are truly in trouble financially. they would just pull the plug.
something doesn't sit well with me with the whole situation. Companies don't usually give warnings of them going under, they just shut the doors and lock em up. My guess is that they are going to file for chapter 11 protection, restructure, and try to emerge with a fresh start, and new ticker symbol or even privately.
It may be wishful thinking here, but this stinks of something different than what is being laid out here.
I could be completely wrong, but i don't think we are at the end of the road just yet.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Ok, lets say Fan files for bankruptcy...which company will it actually be? TMM or Qtelvision? I know TMM is pretty much nothing more than QTV, but doesn't QTV have its own 75,000 shares of stock? Also, don't we (TMM) still own some other companies?
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Interesting post - not sure its believable but good reading and maybe wishful thinking.
Posted by: BruisedPinata In reply to: None Date:5/12/2006 10:50:39 AM Post #of 252959
By KatrinaKiller on RB: Just got off the phone with Mr.Fan and he said that he will most likely out source the Gay Games through ESPN or another network who does sports shows. Q still retains all rights to the Broadcast rights. I asked Mr. Fan about the Planet out story and he said it was false and no one had talked with him about it. Q will make money from out sourcing the games to the larger Network and in rreturn get to show the gay games on Q and the other network (ESPN ECT...) along with commercial premiums = $$$$$ he said without Q having to pay one cent.
Fan said all of Q's bills have been paid and Q has plenty of inventory to play on the network until Fan can get the money nessary to place employees back on payroll. Many of the Q staff still show up to work everyday to run the network. Fan said it has just taken longer to get through Frank olsen's mess than he thought it would. Everyone Frank Olsen had deals with was not paid and were sueing Q for franks lies. The lawsuits have all been taken care of and now we are trying to turn things around. The Gay Games will make Q alot of operation revenue and if it means Q sits Quite until the Gays Games then that is what it will take.
Fan said he has no intentions of bankruptcy the company. Many think I bought Q from Frank Olsen which is not the case Frank Olsen took Fan and his group of investors for more that 13 million dollars in a stock purchase deal at about .0050 - .0080. Frank Olsen lied to Mr. Fan and Fan hired several investigators who dug up so much DIRT on Olsen, Goldman that Frank Olsen had to turn over his 53% of his shares to Fan. I f frank were to have not given Fan controlling interest in Q Fan would have had enough Dirt on Olsen and Goldman to put them away for a a long time.
Now that Fan has the company he will promote his product line using Q's New Web page and network to make back his 13+ million dollars. Fan said that if he bankruptcy the company he and all his investors who have backed him will lose all they invested. Better to wait it out than lose everything.
Fan was very upset I could tell by the tone in his voice but, very professional at all times on the phone.
Fan ended the conversation by saying it will just take longer than we thought to get Q up and running than we thought it would with the mess olsen had it in. Olsen's plan was to sell as many shares as he could before he bankruptcy the company and turned the shell into and new network The American Indian Channel. Olsen would do the whole scam over and hurt more investors with the new game plan. I will not turn Q back over to Frank Olsen no matter what happens. I will not let other investors as my self and other get hurt again by frank olsen
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im trying to verify that this is an actual conversation with Fan.
if i find out anything i will let you know.
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u know what the funniest thing is. i thought i had a skill of being able to tell when people bullsh&t but frank is one of the best liars in the world.. he can look at you straight in the face and tell you exactly what u wanna hear without a glitch.. wow.. frank olsen deserves the scumbag of the year award for this one. well , i guess its back to workin .. how miserable this all became. hopefully we'll get it back 10 fold. if not, then u know the saying, it just wasnt meant to be. by the way..whos paying the rent for the studios right now.. do we as shareholders have the right to go there like a garage sale and take whatever we need. i could use a couple computer screens...haha.. those son of a guns really got us good. professional scam artists. now ill be sure to look after them Posts: 414 | From: los angeles | Registered: Aug 2005
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lol I hope that was not a real conversation with fan!! If you hire a PI and dig up "dirt" on somebody that could put them in jail. But instead of doing that and telling all you take a huge amount of stock and don't turn em in....ya sounds like black mail!!! Even if he didn't word it like that...he still dug up dirt then received a butt load of stock and kept quiet! I don't think he would be stupid enough to tell somebody that over the phone. Probably a fake post
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I'm willing to join any share holder in action against One Frank Olsen to take any monitary gain he may have. Better yet, just like the Enron Exec's maybe we can have Frank going to jail, and getting screewed just like the share holders he exploited!
Any One Game?
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na im not interested. Frank will have to meet his maker one day soon and he will have to answer for his actions.
Im not a big fan of sueing people for what was considered a high risk stock. you cant gamble your money and loose then sue someone for it.
any lawsuit is going to cost you a retainer fee and that is just more money spent foolishly that you will never see anything for it. The only one that wins here is the lawyer, who will take your money to fight this.
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Excellent answer Penny! Even with a class action the lawyers get most of the money and shareholders get pickens.
I'm checking out the competition with LOGO; they now have a series maybe more of them, but they seem to be on the right tract. The one thing that's going for us shareholders is that we DO own rights to the Gay Games. There is money to be made there, and I trust that Fan can exploit that. If he can make a few million off that option then maybe there is life for this stock!
Hey with a little revenue on the bottom line, just maybe Fan can start to buy back some of this stock and attract some investors. We'll have to see what develops.
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whats fan's email address, im being lazy and i figure it would give someone something to do here
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I have called Q 10 times this month and either only have gotten some young lady that says Fan isn't in or his voice mail. He never returns my calls. I question the phone conversation with Fan. No I don't believe the conversation took place. Nothing will change my mind until he pr's a game plan and the pps moves.
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quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: whats fan's email address, im being lazy and i figure it would give someone something to do here
www.windowfan*whirlpool.com I think that the fan is in for repairs, it was blowing hot air but it appears that now it is not blowing at all.
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so what the hell did frankie do??? MT it does not say? are did i miss it?
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Post from IHUB. I would tend to believe this post over the "talked to Fan" story from RB.
Posted by: The OTHER Frank In reply to: None Date:5/14/2006 10:21:20 PM Post #of 253138
Raging lunatic on RAGING BULL
The only thing that is UNDER THE TABLE with this Raging Bull poster is their mental state. (see below)
No one is AT Q working -- I'm considered / was considered a KEY EMPLOYEE and I haven't been there. Please advise this person to take their meds before they post any more untrue and misleading posts. She never spoke to FAN -- never spoke to Richard Brown and the only thing I can assume is he / she must be Frank Owe's new PR person because nothing she puts to print is truth.
Frank Hagan
(and YES - I do read posts -- have since I started at Q)
By: katrinathekiller 14 May 2006, 05:13 PM EDT Msg. 1195880 of 1195992 (This msg. is a reply to 1195877 by waiting29.) Jump to msg. # Key employees show up for work everyday until fan can pay them officially. EVERYTHING IS UNDER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. Q is doing just fine fan just wants the stock back as cheap as possible
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and the drama goes on. this qbidiot still holding a boatload of shares. good luck to us all. and God willing this will turn out good for us .i was hoping on by now living on easy street eating cheesecake and gambling away my fortunes hehehe.
40 million long and strong until death do us part.
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quote:Originally posted by aj4400: Post from IHUB. I would tend to believe this post over the "talked to Fan" story from RB.
Posted by: The OTHER Frank In reply to: None Date:5/14/2006 10:21:20 PM Post #of 253138
Raging lunatic on RAGING BULL
The only thing that is UNDER THE TABLE with this Raging Bull poster is their mental state. (see below)
No one is AT Q working -- I'm considered / was considered a KEY EMPLOYEE and I haven't been there. Please advise this person to take their meds before they post any more untrue and misleading posts. She never spoke to FAN -- never spoke to Richard Brown and the only thing I can assume is he / she must be Frank Owe's new PR person because nothing she puts to print is truth.
Frank Hagan
(and YES - I do read posts -- have since I started at Q)
By: katrinathekiller 14 May 2006, 05:13 PM EDT Msg. 1195880 of 1195992 (This msg. is a reply to 1195877 by waiting29.) Jump to msg. # Key employees show up for work everyday until fan can pay them officially. EVERYTHING IS UNDER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. Q is doing just fine fan just wants the stock back as cheap as possible
I'm sorry... I dont think any of those people posting worked at Q. If they truly did, and now spend their lives posting on IHUB (especially a TV "executive" like Hagan), then perhaps this network was doomed from the start.
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quote:Originally posted by aj4400: Post from IHUB. I would tend to believe this post over the "talked to Fan" story from RB.
Posted by: The OTHER Frank In reply to: None Date:5/14/2006 10:21:20 PM Post #of 253138
Raging lunatic on RAGING BULL
The only thing that is UNDER THE TABLE with this Raging Bull poster is their mental state. (see below)
No one is AT Q working -- I'm considered / was considered a KEY EMPLOYEE and I haven't been there. Please advise this person to take their meds before they post any more untrue and misleading posts. She never spoke to FAN -- never spoke to Richard Brown and the only thing I can assume is he / she must be Frank Owe's new PR person because nothing she puts to print is truth.
Frank Hagan
(and YES - I do read posts -- have since I started at Q)
By: katrinathekiller 14 May 2006, 05:13 PM EDT Msg. 1195880 of 1195992 (This msg. is a reply to 1195877 by waiting29.) Jump to msg. # Key employees show up for work everyday until fan can pay them officially. EVERYTHING IS UNDER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. Q is doing just fine fan just wants the stock back as cheap as possible
I'm sorry... I dont think any of those people posting worked at Q. If they truly did, and now spend their lives posting on IHUB (especially a TV "executive" like Hagan), then perhaps this network was doomed from the start.
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LMAO, Dont know why, but i am.
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Maybe fan will pay me back in cash thats fine by me.
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quote:Originally posted by aj4400: Post from IHUB. I would tend to believe this post over the "talked to Fan" story from RB.
Posted by: The OTHER Frank In reply to: None Date:5/14/2006 10:21:20 PM Post #of 253138
Raging lunatic on RAGING BULL
The only thing that is UNDER THE TABLE with this Raging Bull poster is their mental state. (see below)
No one is AT Q working -- I'm considered / was considered a KEY EMPLOYEE and I haven't been there. Please advise this person to take their meds before they post any more untrue and misleading posts. She never spoke to FAN -- never spoke to Richard Brown and the only thing I can assume is he / she must be Frank Owe's new PR person because nothing she puts to print is truth.
Frank Hagan
(and YES - I do read posts -- have since I started at Q)
By: katrinathekiller 14 May 2006, 05:13 PM EDT Msg. 1195880 of 1195992 (This msg. is a reply to 1195877 by waiting29.) Jump to msg. # Key employees show up for work everyday until fan can pay them officially. EVERYTHING IS UNDER THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. Q is doing just fine fan just wants the stock back as cheap as possible
I'm sorry... I dont think any of those people posting worked at Q. If they truly did, and now spend their lives posting on IHUB (especially a TV "executive" like Hagan), then perhaps this network was doomed from the start.
Agreed.
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So why do i sit here and look at my scottrade and this one says the price is N/A??? Did they go under? are they being reviewed?
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and when i try to look it up it says the symbol is not found? did it simply change symbols? or did it finally run out of gas???
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Does Q still have the broadcasting rights to the gay games? The gay games web site show's Q TV as a sponsor and I don't think they would keep a company aroud if it was going to make them look bad! With gay people it is all about appearance!
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I think the biggest problem with the stock is the share holders! You talk about it as if it was a dead company! Maybe it is you that is holding the stock price down! If you couldn't afford to loose the money you shouln't have got in! I have 23 million shares and not a worry in the world! The money I have invested is what I spent in gas last week!LOL My point is stop crying and just relax!
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We are pleased to announce that Logo, MTV Network's one-year-old cable television channel for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) audience, has become a Premium Global Sponsor of the 2006 Chicago Gay Games. Logo's sponsorship will include advertising, production, special event and online promotions, and support of the Gay Games by Logo talent.
"In just one short year, Logo has become one of the most recognizable brands within the gay and lesbian community," said Brenda Schumacher, Gay Games Director of Broadcast. "We are thrilled to partner with Logo to tell the powerful stories of our community through the lens of sports, culture, celebration and the legacy of the Gay Games conveying our message of Inclusion, Participation and Personal Best™." Schumacher and Gay Games Vice Co-Chair Tracy Baim negotiated the relationship with Logo.
"Logo works to connect with our audience in an authentic way and the real stories of athletic achievement are among the most powerful of all," said Lisa Sherman, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Logo. "The Gay Games has played a critical role in the LGBT community's history since it was founded in 1982. For Logo, the remarkable stories of the participating athletes, artists and their fans, families and friends make the Gay Games an important part of our 2006 programming."
Promotional spots about the 2006 Gay Games and Logo’s involvement as a sponsor and partner will begin running this month on Logo, at LOGOonline.com and our website.
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Awww crap! What's up with that? I wonder if Fan sold them this, or the Gay Games just dropped Q like the rotten egg it is and went to Logo. Now the big question....what happens to the supposedly 1mil we'd already paid them?
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