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probably......i wouldn't doubt if they were lovers
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quote:Originally posted by amswap: It boggles the mind to wonder why people would consider this one.
everyone is looking for the lotto ticket at.0001
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I know the news today was alarming .....But confussing too. And that implies it's not fully understood . I would like the brightest among you to give me your real thoughts on how to handle this since most here are holding shares . That is if you can stop laughing and joking about this whole debenture thing to answer honestly .
Do we "panic" sell { if possible & at .0001} to get the hell out .
Do we hold .....And sell after the 15th by converting back to common { at I believe .001 }
OR ...do we continue to hold all shares as they are bound to go up in value with less shares available to trade and keeping the debentures as additional 5 year long term profit .
And did you notice ...one of the questions came from a man owning " 345 million shares " who said he will be increasing his possition . His question was one of the best thought out and showed him to be a knowledgable and intelligent investor .
It does not sound like he is going to sell off ...And that has me thinking .
This is important so I would like solid answers here .
PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
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Your basically saying the only thing your good for here is unlimited bashing .I asked for some serious unbiased imput on the question and answer letter from paim .Ofcourse theres legal issues you idiot and specific math to understand . IF YOU DON"T KNOW ....then say you don't and stop trying to be MR. "know it all" on a company when it comes to bashing and MR. "no nothing at all" when it comes to legitimate information on a company .
I have made money on PAIM and have a lot of free shares .....Now I need to make the right decission regarding these shares . There is obviously some capacity of value here and all of us that own these common shares need to be smart about this . To panic sell , to not panic sell and hold or to hold then sell in time are all important questions ....That you seem not capable of answering .
But hey TEX ....Thanks for all your negative post on PAIM ....If anyone wants the negative on a stock your the "GO TO MAN" for that .
But a stock is more about the negative against the positive . We need all legitimate information and not just negative , negative , negative . All my PAIM shares are free plus it gave me cash to buy AWBV,VWKM & JMCP { and all at .0001 } . IT also gave me 45 billion prefered shares . I am aslo capturing dividends from awbv & vwkm { thanks paim } . In two days VWKM will put 15% more shares in my account . AWBV is giving me two dividends { record dates june 15th & july1st } .
Since my 45 million paim shares are " free shares" I realisticly can't lose money . I sure can't lose when I already bought the other stocks and their already creating gain themselves { dividends first } then I believe higher share price .
But the paim shares obviously have value ...and TEX .....you can not say with honesty that they will not increase.
When you start pumping out negative & positive information for us I think it will prove you a better man .
As for me ....I have some serious questions on paim ....But I'm sure not ready to call paim shares toilet papper either .
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Intimitrader, there is absolutely nothing valuable about this stock. IT IS A SCAM run by CON ARTISTS. What part of that don't you understand? Sure, if you can sell, you might make money once in a great while. There are a ton of shells that have never made a dime in revenues that have made a lot of people a lot of money. PAIM continues to play tricks and the longer you stay in this one the better your chances of eventually losing it all. They will eventually dry up and blow away taking your money with them when they do. They'll milk it for every cent they can first. You can expect to lose staying in this one. After seeing them cheat so many people so many times, there is little else to do but bash this one. Talk to anyone who knows, and I mean really knows stocks and see what they say. Opinions on this board are cheap and you get your money's worth most of the time. All IMO.
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From your posts, it seems that your mind is made up. Yet you ask for opinions and then bash those opinions because they don't coincide with what you believe. If you already have the answers don't ask.
If the debenture deal is so great, why hasn't the financial industry jumped all over it? Simple they know a scam when they see one.
Basically this is a 90% reverse split that the company says they will make up to you 5 yrs down the road with nor interest and they have not once said they would retire the shares they obtain in the creatively worded buy back. Which means that they can go ahead and reissue those shares again. CD's are used to fund a company. So you can be sure that they will issue the shares in order to get more money.
Take a step back. really look at what they are doing and it isn't all that hard to figure it out.
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Ok amswap ..I understand that ......But it seems to me people are more confused about this debenture than knowing what it means . And the company has not failed by not doing what they set out to do either .... They are gearing up to excavate and actually mind gold and other precious metals . And that needs to be financed . Their time frame has not changed but rather investors patience has . Clearly reading these threads I can see traders have little patience and short memories . I will be the first to call paim a failer and a scam ...if it FAILS & scams us . But that is not the case at this time . I hold 45 million shares and thats more than some of you ..yet I don't want to panic sell I prefer to think logically about this . I might try and sell ...then again I might keep all ...I don't know yet . But frustration from people that are tired of sitting at .0001 will not give me the solid answers I need .
And Cotton .....The reason you can't sell easily at .0001 is that their are a lot of panic sellers in front of you trying to sell at that price .And more in line to sell at .0001 since yesterdays news . They are confused and cared ...that is why they are selling .
It seems paim has no less drama among people that post then many of the .0001's that I have already made bank on .
And paim has the same important strong points now that it had when I first started researching it months ago . But with one important difference .....Now they are closer to excavating , processing and selling gold and other precious metals to market .
Are all of you assuming it will never get to that point ? Gold and other metals exist in large amounts in the sites that paim now has rights too { as per documented assay reports } .So what am I missing here . Show me a stock that sits at .0001 where traders are nice to it . But after the .0001 period some stocks actually do very well and it seems the same people now love them and want to marry the company . Show me a company that puts out a confussing PR and I will show you a bashed stock . Confussion equals bashing everytime ...If people don't understand it ..they bash it .
When people do not understand they always ASSUME the worst .
I don't assume and I don't pay attention to emotion . Other than using the emotions of others to make gains in the market .
I'm just saying ...While I have questions ...I can see paim is very very bashed .
And I have made a lot of bank from a lot of stocks that have been very very bashed .
Now tell me once again Amswap ....why you think they will never get to pulling gold out of these mines . Becouse surely you know what happens if they do .
PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
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Is there ANYBODY NOW that doenn't know that this is a R/S? I said this weeks ago when the PR first came out about the "BUYBACK." Sell as much as you can, and average down when the thing bottoms out again.
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Why do you assume they are all panic sellers? Could it be that they realize they will be stuck with a stock that could have this exact same thing done 100 times in 5 years is simply not worth it? You talk about assumptions, yet you are doing the same thing in the other direction. I can only speak from what I have learned about the company and the people running it that it is very unlikely they will ever get to the point of even taking a shovel to the site. Yes, I could be wrong. I am going by what I know about the company. I am not scared or worried about what they will find since I don't believe they have plans to do anything. Any company out there in the gold business can buy the rights through an auction. Have you figured out what they really have rights to or are you taking someone else's word for it? Are you taking Pearl's word for it? Look back at all the past threads over the past several months and see what their prs actually say. Anticipate, believeing, should, closer and all these words are stated just right for a reason. They can't be held accountable to the shareholders if they claim it and it doesn't come to fruition. Hey, they tried. If PAIM exists in 6 months, you'll still be hearing excuses why they can't get underway, but just wait, we'll get there and in the meantime they have played with the stock and manipulated it so much that they resell the same ones dozens of times and laughing at people like you all the way to the bank. Sorry to be so negative, but I still can't see why you would consider this after doing some serious DD if you have bothered to do any. If you are making money in the market and that is your goal, there are too many legitimate ones out there I would take a chance on first.
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Did you see the part where I made money on paim .That I'm riding free shares ..That paim bought me awbv , vwkm and jmcp and two are paing me divi's . That I have 45 billion free prefered and 45 million free common .
Keep in mind I'm not saying the debenture is a good thing . And I wish they did not do it . Just my thoughts about it ....But if excavating starts and gold is pulled from the mines then it is as irrelevant as how long the price sat at .0001 { except for putting more money or less money in the hands of share holders } based on what we do with the shares now .
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If you think about it, a 10 to 1 R/S is not a devastating move. I have seen a lot worse. The O/S will go down to 3 billion, assuming they haven't diluted it since last time I checked, and there will be some great PR toward the end of the year that should take this thing above .001, so you may survive this rollercoaster ride in the long run, if you aren't able to get out now.
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I think I'll wait until after the dust settles on the r/s and then pick some up at .0001. I don't see it moving from there no matter what they do.
Sorry, I was kidding about buying shares. You would have to pay me to do that. Why? They will never know if there is gold there because all they want to do is manipulate a stock for their own gain. There will never be a dime in revenues. Keep this in your thoughts and give me a big I Told You So when it happens. May take 10 years or so after they have made their billion off easy to manipulate traders.
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But to be honest ..I think paim is one of those stocks that will be bashed , trashed , made fun of and then make it big . I think they will excavate ...and I think gold will be processed and sold . And I think that will also create revenue and financing for themslves . In africa ....whole herds of antlelope stampede over cliffs to their deaths becouse several panicked and ran first . The ones that remain are the smartest and although the heard is smaller they all have more food and water .
I see a stampede here ......... Posts: 365 | From: redlands | Registered: Mar 2006
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I'm curious about his statement ...I called Td ameritrade and they had nothing to tell me other than the same PR we have all seen . With the debenture buy back two days away I would have thought they would be sitting on current info to prepare for the transition of shares for CD's . on thursday the 15th . I called my friend in the philipines to ask if there is any new news she can tell me about paim . She said paim is well liked , still in the news and on target to begin excavating . There was some talk of the first parts to the first processing unit arriving and they seem to be prepaing for it . Some roads have been cleared of debre and others widend in anticapation of trucks and equipment she believes . She will keep me posted further .
PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
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I started the process of researching all the dilution, buyback, reverse splits and everything I could find on this company to present to you, but I changed my mind. If you want to waste money in this stock after seeing what you've seen through your own DD, if you even did any, then there is nothing I can do to prove to you that this is a scam. You might as well light a match to your money as opposed to putting it in this stock. It will eventually get you the same result. Look at the seasoned investors on this board alone and what they have to say about this stock. They know what they're talking about. You have your mind made up and you are somehow convinvced that you are going to make money. No point in talking about it any longer. You don't want debate, you want us to tell you it is a good thing. The only ones who will tell you that are people who don't know how to read between the lines when there are no lines. Sorry if it appears I am calling you stupid, but I think in this casse it is only ignorance and you will learn from this one in the near future. I don't wish you bad luck at all. Many of us have been where you are on this one with all the facts and the hype and the positive news to wake up one morning to find you can no longer trade the stock. It's gone and there is nothing you can do about it but say adios to the shares you had. Trust me when I say we speak from experience.
BuyTex has asked you 2 times if you have ever seen a deal like this one before and you have chosen not to answer him. Why is that? If this is such a sure thing, it should be an easy question to answer.
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amswap, you're dead on. sry to all who are in paim. naturally, these boards (being friendly as they are) want to see you make money. but this stock and 99.9% of others like 'em are completely bogus. they're as wrong as DNA is right. GLTA,
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probably so many sells set for .0001 that 500mm can be traded at .0001 and not even scratch the surface. I have 1.5mm on sale for .0001 for a couple of days and nothing. Oh well we are pretty much stuck to see how this debenture thing goes. 150 bucks I could care less if I lose it all though I'd prefer not to.
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My best friend called from philipines ....trucks arrived bringing some kind of huge equipment . Locals being hired on standby ....Markers were being placed in roads using reflective material ...and reflectors placed on trees along side roads ..She thinks they are getting ready for night driving , transporting and activity in the mine sites . Might be for 24 hour shifts when digging begins . She is going to drive in closer next week and try to take pictures for me ......I want to see pictures of what their setting up . I will keep everyone posted .
Posts: 365 | From: redlands | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Intimatrader: My best friend called from philipines ....trucks arrived bringing some kind of huge equipment . Locals being hired on standby ....Markers were being placed in roads using reflective material ...and reflectors placed on trees along side roads ..She thinks they are getting ready for night driving , transporting and activity in the mine sites . Might be for 24 hour shifts when digging begins . She is going to drive in closer next week and try to take pictures for me ......I want to see pictures of what their setting up . I will keep everyone posted .
we need the photos bad
post all photos
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Your welcome ......she is going to try to take pictures next week . She is a nurse and has next week off . If she is sucessfull with any pic's I will share them ....
How do you guys post picture here ? When I post on this tread I see nothing asking me to brouse for a picture ...How do I do it ?
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I own only 2 million shares of PAIM, just for kicks...but if what Intimatrader is saying is true, then thats good news. But who knows, we have no evidence. We need some pictures big time.
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