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I really feel this very much applies to GWGO so I'm posting it hear. GLTA

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Originally posted by MikeC on the "USXP - Watch" thread:
Good read.

How many times have you missed a big stock move simply because you bought the stock too late? A big press release story comes out, you immediately buy the stock and it goes down. In many cases you hold the stock for a while and it goes down further and you lose big. Unfortunately this happens everyday in the OTCBB market. If you look back at any of our news stories from several days ago you will find that a vast majority of these stocks are trading lower than they were when the stories came out. For those of you new to the OTCBB stock market this kind of event did not happen during the bull market of the late 90s. It was the exact opposite back then. You could buy almost any OTCBB stock with good stories and it would run for days. Fortunes were made. With those times gone, everyone is struggling to learn the best strategy for making money in the current market conditions. Has anyone found one yet?

The reality is, today’s struggling market conditions make it now a stock picker’s market. You need to buy stocks in a carefully and calculated manner, with a short term in and out strategy. Buy as little as possible. If you throw your money to the wind you will likely lose everything. However, if you position yourselves in a few special situations you can still make money.

The first general principle to making money on the OTCBB is to realize that this market is NOT for investors but for traders. Investing in OTCBB companies will only bring you heartache and loss, as most of the companies have little if any fundamental value. What this essentially means is that most of the companies have little or no real asset worth or revenue. Even those companies that do have successful and revenue generating operations (at least according to their SEC filings) seem to dilute the market with their shares.

What is dilution? If you follow most OTCBB stocks over time you will find that the public float and total shares issued and outstanding gets larger and larger. A company may have only 1 million shares in the public float (the public float is the number of shares that are out in the marketplace, freely trading or tradeable) at one particular time. Two months later that float could have increased to 10 million shares. One year later it could have 200 million shares in the public float. Dilution is where the companies issue more shares into the market place over time. So the HOT Company that you saw run from .20 to $25 but then fall again to .20 is NOT the same stock today. It is for all practical purposes a totally different company (as far as the structure of the stock). If the public float has increased dramatically it will never run to that price level again. Forget about it and move on to another company, one with a smaller float.

Dilution has to do with the fact that a company’s shares are like cash for those who hold them. Abuses occur with those companies that give away free shares or issue blocks of stock to people who could care less about the company. Lots of service providers (investor relations firms, investment bankers and the like) could care less about the companies that have hired them and simply dump their free shares into the market place at any time. This causes the public float to get bigger and bigger. Smart companies should SELL the shares to these service providers, maybe at a small discount to the market, not give it to them. If you simply give something of value to someone there is a zero cost basis that threatens to destroy those who had to pay for their stock. Greed can run rampant and the little guy that bought the stock on the open market can get killed. Yes, dilution is a necessary evil for tiny companies that are growing and are desperately attempting to attract and secure whatever market they are trying to capture for their service or product. Dilution is necessary because these companies are cash strapped. But this is often taken to an extreme, with many companies issuing a bunch of stock into the market place yet NEVER successfully getting their product or service off the ground.

Many OTCBB of companies simply end up filing bankruptcy or shut down the doors long AFTER they unloaded all of their shares into the marketplace. Others continue operating using the notorious reverse stock split (artificially decreasing the number of shares that are in the marketplace in an attempt to make the stock buying sensitive like it was when the company first started before dilution). After a reverse split has taken place, the companies are free to simply dilute the stock all over again. This is in total disregard for small investors who bought on the open market. Those investors who paid for their stock on the open market and who hold the stock through the duration of such fiascos are left holding an empty bag. This past year we have seen lots of companies do reverse splits more than once. In my opinion, this practice is nothing more than abuse of a country and beautiful economic system that is designed to help companies raise capital to bring their products and services to market. The public pays a heavy price for such scams.

Trading is a different story. Trading is truly the KEY to making money on the OTCBB. A trader does not invest in a company but rather looks for a situation to get in and out of very quickly. A skilled OTCBB trader will get in and out of a stock to make a quick buck. He takes no prisoners. Sometimes he is in the stock for minutes, sometimes hours, and sometimes a few days. A successful OTCBB trader knows that the longer he is in a stock the more likely he will lose money. He doesn’t care what the company does. If all the company does is sell apples and oranges, a skilled trader could make money trading the stock. A trader simply buys it low, before others buy it, and then gets out during a run up. Yes he runs the risk of losing like everyone else if the stock never goes up. But if the company can successfully attract investors to buy the stock the trader can make a fortune. I have seen it happen literally overnight.

This simple trading strategy of buying low and selling high does run contrary to the grain, as everyday companies put out glowing press releases about how good they are doing, the great contracts they have signed, important letters of intent, big acquisitions, successful financing, etc. The press releases are written as if they are trying to attract long-term investors. It almost seems like the companies really want long-term investors. Yet is is often amazing how quickly the stocks seem to fall after these kinds of press release stories come out. Why? Dilution works against the stock and at this time in the stock market there are typically more people selling a stock than buying it. So this puts pressure on a stock and it heads toward zero.

Some companies even hire so-called “analysts” to put out recommendations on the stocks. Keep in mind there are no real Wall Street analysts for OTCBB stocks. Yes there are hired guns that claim to be analysts. But always read the fine print, as you will find 9 times out of 10 that these people have simply been hired to tout a stock. Professional Wall Street knows about the OTCBB world and its problems and that is why they generally ignore it. Have you ever wondered why the Wall Street Journal, CNBC, and others rarely cover OTCBB stocks? Because they know about the things I have just told you.

We received a letter from someone several weeks ago who claimed to be a “large, long-term shareholder” in a company. He was whining about one of our news stories and our timing in releasing the news. He must have been an insider, as we cannot think of anyone who would be foolish enough to buy a big block of stock in an OTCBB company and hold it as a long-term investor. You don’t do that with OTCBB stocks unless you want to lose all of your money. You can be a big investor, long term, in mutual funds, real companies on large exchanges, and the like. Not with OTCBB stocks. Only a fool would do that. A fool and his money.



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Good info Vagabond. I don't see a few months as Long Term though. With these small stocks you have to catch em right and ride them when the news comes out. Very few will really go from .005 to $1.00. It does happen but for the most part you need to get in and get out under a years time, better yet 6 months.

There is money to be made...watch the news and a level head will make you money.

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Everyone has their own strategies that they feel work best for them. I go much shorter myself, usually hours or days, sometimes longer, but I hate to see my money tied up if it's doing nothing. GL

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Tomorrow it will be GWGO on the pinks

13:45 GWGOE Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock 05/23/2006 Failure To Comply With NASD 6530; Added to NBB (GWGO) **

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=05/22/2006&mkt_ctg=OTCBB

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=05/22/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

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Is that Schwab traders that can't buy or sell 1,000,000 or more at a time?

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[ May 22, 2006, 14:41: Message edited by: Vagabond ]

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I'm really conflicted now.

I believe this company is for real although recent delays in filings. PR's, E - no E are driving me nuts.

May sell and buy RSHN or something a little more stable. Ya, as stable as a penny stock can be?

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quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
I'm really conflicted now.

I believe this company is for real although recent delays in filings. PR's, E - no E are driving me nuts.

May sell and buy RSHN or something a little more stable. Ya, as stable as a penny stock can be?

I feel your pain, but I hope anyone who believes in this or any company trading in the pinks or many, if not, most in the OTCBB realise these are real companies, but their purpose is for PPS manipulation only. There will never be any attempt to mine for gold or anything else. The "divis" are the carrot on the stick to try to keep people long. Look beyond the fluff news. A legit company (one that has an actual product or service agenda) doesn't opperate this way. Most of these companies should be looked at as short term momo plays only. Buy and hold, if that's what you want to do should be done in the big markets, unless you buy at the bottom and wait.
I believe GWGO will drop down again to .0002 or so before it makes another bounce on lots of "news". All this is just IMO, of course.

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Looks like some people bought at .0009 this morning thinking it had gone up because on the TDAmeritrade streamer it still had the bid and ask prices from the last day GWGO traded back in mid April (.0012 x .0013) before it got the "E". TDAmeritrade doesn't currently show the bid and ask for pinks on their streamer (that was old information that wasn't removed) [Frown]

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GWGO bid .0005 x .0007

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quote:
Originally posted by Vagabond:
Looks like some people bought at .0009 this morning thinking it had gone up because on the TDAmeritrade streamer it still had the bid and ask prices from the last day GWGO traded back in mid April (.0012 x .0013) before it got the "E". TDAmeritrade doesn't currently show the bid and ask for pinks on their streamer (that was old information that wasn't removed) [Frown]

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Hmmm, will have to remember that and try a sell next time. KaChing! That being said I hope it isn't the end for GWGO.
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Has anyone noticed the HUGE size of these trades? 1M 3M and 4M...interesting...

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I'm looking for a bottom of about .0002 on this Pink sheet "Gold" company. Who knows maybe they'll do a R/S. Wouldn't supprise me.

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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Has anyone noticed the HUGE size of these trades? 1M 3M and 4M...interesting...

Oh yes! Everyone was piling in and stocking up when the good news came and now that everyone has gotten board with the stock their unloading. I had over 2 million shares at one point. Now I have 500,000 and plan on holding that for the long haul. If it drops to .0002 again before the PR's come out I may buy it back and PILE UP again.
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Stockstar69

Do you think that they will really come out with that"PR" and the things that they had promised before? Not trying to offend you...just honestly wondering...

You must not feel that...since you sold most of your position...I have a small one also...all free shares...GLTY!

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May 24, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Great West Gold, Inc (OTCPK:GWGO), is a company that our research team will be tracking over the ensuing weeks. They recently came out with a significant corporate development, causing a market stir. The BWR Research Team will continue to bring its subscriber's cutting edge research tools, and second to none customer service.

Great West Gold, Inc a gold mining exploration stage company, engaged in the acquisition and exploration of mining properties in the United States, late last week confirmed that on Monday May 22, 2006 Great West Gold will begin to trade on the OTC Pink Sheet Market and not on the OTC BB Market.

The Company will continue to be "Reporting" and the outstanding filings, being the Form 10 KSB for the period ended December 31, 2005 and the Form 10 QSB for the period ended March 31, 2006 will be filed in and during June of 2006.

The Company confirms the completion of the transactions to acquire the "Yaba" and the "Treasure King" Gold Mining Projects and the Copper Mountain Copper Project.

The Company is at this time investigating the acquisition of additional Gold and Copper Mining Projects and if successful, shareholders will be advised accordingly.

The Company will be continuing with its stated intention to distribute the Stock Dividends in Ambassador Gold Holdings plc, Sentinel Resource Holdings plc, Golden Eagle Mining Holdings plc, Copperstone Mining Holdings plc and Bouse Mining Holdings plc. The Company remains committed to obtaining a separate quotation for each of these Companies.

The Company intends to announce further Stock Dividends to its shareholders in and during June of 2006.

Following Great West Gold, Inc first couple of days trading on the pink sheets, this company has traded back and forth between $0.0008 and $0.0006, on huge volume. Losing OTCBB status has definitely changed investors as no companies like it when they are demoted. Currently trading at $0.0006, down nearly 15.0%, on huge volume this company is going to have to work hard in once again exciting potential investors. The BWR Research Team will continue to follow the market sentiment on this company and numerous

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Hmmm, don't know where that came from but it looks good.
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I would expect to see a lot of .0005's printing later today, with a bottom of .0003 maybe even .0002 sometime within the next couple of weeks on this one. GLTA

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Now that they have the financials out of the way, they can concentrate on the PR's...Right?
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quote:
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Now that they have the financials out of the way, they can concentrate on the PR's...Right?

You're joking about the financials being out of the way? Right?

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You all see the announcements yesterday - full versions on greatwestgold.com or on pinksheets.com. Can it really be true that they are going to issue the bonus shares? I told my broker I would eat my shorts if they ever appeared....
Also, in addition to the five already announced, there are four more bonus shares to be confirmed - I'm assuming this includes the 6th subsidiary Western Diversified plus the three new acquisitions.
More promises - wonder if they'll follow through this time.

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