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How smart were you? Before the accident, I mean...
quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: Nope... you are not 4art.... he was smarter... of course it's like comparing a rock to a bug as far as brains....
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who is this Urban "legend"
20 years ago, a native of Sask, Canada had a dream. Once a prison guard, he dreamed of becoming a legend for the world to see. He dreamed of how it would be good, to help single mothers lives different. He dreamed of how he could transfer great wealth from the rich and give it to the poor. Sort of a Robin Hood if you will. He dreamed of ways to make "a million millionaires". He dreamed of making a company that would become a household name. He dreamed of a better life for not only himself, but everyone else that shared in his dream.
He began start up companies (Petro Plus etc.) and learned how the "market" worked by making some mistakes along the way. He didn't have a defeatest attitude. No matter what happened, he pushed forward continuining to learn the inner dealings of an industry that bilked startup companies and investors out of billions of dollars. He learned how the day would come, that HE could take them down.
When did it really begin?
Urban began to lock up land claims in Canada in hopes that the land would be of value to his start up diamond mining company. Over the years, he continued to lock up the rights to the minerals on 1.4 million acres in one of the largest diamond ferrous lands in that country. Looking forward to his vision, of creating one of the largest mining conglomerates around, involving not just diamonds, but gold, uranium, potash, and anything else the land had to offer. But in order to compete against the big gun DeBeers, he'd need some capital. He began his quest to generate a financial boost to attain his dream.
Where was the large inflow of cash going to come from? Urban knew the land had significant value. Urban knew in order to get CMKX to be big, he'd have to create a buzz in the market place. All the time knowing, the illegal games that brokers and market makers play, might destroy what he was trying to do. CMKX quickly becomes an icon. The CMKX buzz and the mysteriousness surrounding it, are all over investor chat rooms and message boards He continues to promote and advertise through one of the biggest media promotions around. Stock car racing. Got CMKX logo becomes as known as "Where's the beef" did. The dream was unfolding right before his eyes. The plam was coming together. Money was coming in and Urban was a force to be reconed with within the mining industry.
How does he take it into battle? Over the last couple of years, Urban realizes the market makers, hedgefunds & brokers are all trying to illegally cash in on his dream. Instead of the pps going up as CMKX develops, it goes down. Urban quickly realizes what's wrong and begins to hire some top guns (Glenn, Maheu, Stock, etc.). He has to stay one step ahead of the enemy, while trying to keep his large shareholder base happy. A very difficult balancing act, risking revealing too much to the bad guys. As he continues to press forward and reveal that his company is being used like many others in the financial markets, the bad guys know that they are in trouble. They push back and the SEC steps in. Urban had to create the illusion that CMKX was like the other scams. Any revealing of his asset base, would make the MM's not short the stock any further. Producing valuation and publizing it, would not deepen the trap he was trying to set. After all, while he wanted to make his shareholders money through company valuation, there was also another way. Naked shorting. If he could keep the enemy selling illegal shares, and prove it, it would cost them billions. But it isn't going to be easy. He must keep quiet and not reveal his plam.
The plan is in place. The SEC starts their proceedings against us. Urban assists Frizzell in establising reasonable proof of the severity of his company being naked shorted. Frizzell tries to submit it into evidence at the hearing, but Hakala shuts him down. Says to him, "If you get me definate proof (all we had was "sample" evidence), I'll turn it over to proper authorities. Frizzell sends out letters to the brokers demanding they reveal their failures to deliver to him and the company "team". They refuse. The plam hits a road block. How do we prove it now? We can't force the brokers even under the Freedom of Information Act, to disclose their illegal game. WELL IT AIN'T OVER YET BABY!
The "team" (Maheu, Urban, Frizzell & Stock) make their next move. If they can't get the information from the brokers legally, there is ANOTHER way. BEG the SEC to shut us down. And of course the SEC obliges. CHECKMATE.
How do we force the hands? Urban knows the only way to get a true and actual proof of what was shorted, when it was shorted, where it was shorted and how much it was shorted was to transfer all assets into another JV just before the SEC shut us down. Now all CMKX was going to be used for was counting beans. Who did it, when did they do it, where did they do it (out of country bad guys) and how much did they do it? But the MM's & brokers could STILL try to get away with it. The cert pull is on.
Many think that once the total outstanding shares of 703 billion have been pulled in certs, that it's over and all electronic shares remain. I don't see it that way. IF WE WEREN'T revoked, then I'd say ok. But the fact that we are revoked, allows us to now do anything we want without ever having to report it. Keep in mind when Frizzell was trying to force the brokers (he mailed a letter to all of them) to give him the tally sheets, they not only refused, but ignored him.
IN MY OPINION, the transfer agent, First Global WILL ONLY RUN OUT OF CERTS when folks stop pulling them. Urban/Maheu can now raise the O/S to a kazillion shares and never have to report it. Nobody will EVER know how many shares are outstanding. We are not only a nonreporting company, but revoked. Urban/Maheu's lips are sealed.
The transfer agent will continue to send out certs to all the brokers as long as they ask for. Once the musical cert pull stops, the TA can tally how many certs they handed out to who, compare that with the DTCC's records of transfer and know without a doubt, Who, What, When Where & How the bad boys played their games. THAT is part of Urbans dream. That is what will be used to capture punitive damages from the perpertrators. That money will be put in a dynasty trust and distributed to ALL BONA FIDE SHAREHOLDERS. EVERY shareholder that has requested certs. Now HOW did that message get out? Urban agreed to send a letter to ALL brokers demanding they contact their clients telling them to pull certs. That was the final punch. The brokers COULDN'T refuse. Because if they did, they would be exposed. The straw that broke the camels back. The counts are coming in. The frozen snapshot has been taken. IMO, some have already coughed up. And all of this BEFORE valuation on our company is ever put out. Now he has created the base, for a lifetime of payments and royalties to be paid. Bona Fide Shareholders locked in a dynasty trust, free from taxes, free from anyone suing and taking it from us, and free to be passed on to future generations.
IMO, the punitive damages will be spread out over time so as to not take down the industry. Throw the punitive damage payments in, dividends from our jv's in, valuation in, and future growth of Entourage in, and we've got our own little ATM spitting out cash payments to us now and for the next several years. The game is over. The final punch has been thrown. The enemy is laying on the mat. The referee has started the count. IF WE CAN GET EVERYONE TO PULL CERTS no matter how small the amount, we only deepen the wounds to the bad guys.
Let everyone you've involved in this stock know, how important this is. If they can't afford to pay for the cert, help them. The fight is over. Only thing left, is to mop up the ring.
Sorry so long. But I felt it was important. Thanks for listening.
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okanagan is Andy. Very interesting but all of us that did reall dd based on facts already knew this.
By: okanagan 23 Nov 2005, 11:10 PM EST Msg. 284646 of 284701 (This msg. is a reply to 284642 by billyun1.) Jump to msg. # Billyun...
The question of majority ownership first arose I believe via John Martin of the OG telling someone who contacted me. I therefore asked Mr. Casavant about this last week and he confirmed it as true, there was no majority control of CMKX as it is a shell now and why would anyone want control of a shell.
Of course the question then arises as to how the Entourage deal has been done without a proxy vote and I don't have an answer to that. Unfortunately the Task Force is saying very little at this point about anything.
As to the rest of your questions...I am not going to get into details of possible settlement etc. The Task Force has been appointed and the immediate task at hand is to continue having as many people as possible pull shares in cert form. This will take some time and I don't anticipate any settlement this year and IMO until sometime in the Spring. Just my opinion of course.
I now only hope for the best resolution to this and in the fastest possible timeframe for all shareholders.
Quote:By: dustybutler101 23 Nov 2005, 11:34 PM EST Msg. 284653 of 284702 (This msg. is a reply to 284646 by okanagan.) Jump to msg. #
ANDY... You confirmed to me that Urban/insiders had 51% control of the company and this, according to you, was told to you by the corporate attorney. Now you are saying they don't have majority control??
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I don't understand how the naysayers have been proven right so many times and not one of the pumpers theories have come true yet they still want to believe in fairy tales. Like CMKX valuation being larger then the GNP of Canada. Also that a settlement would be larger then the whole GNP of Canada. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.
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legal, was your last post a Thanksgiving gift to us??? just so ya know gift giving is at x-mas...lol. not even you can believe that crap.
"He began start up companies (Petro Plus etc.) and learned how the "market" worked by making some mistakes along the way."
he didn't start petro & he was kicked out because he was lying in prs. that was after canada shut their trading down. what he learned was not to have a canadian company.
"IN MY OPINION, the transfer agent, First Global WILL ONLY RUN OUT OF CERTS when folks stop pulling them. Urban/Maheu can now raise the O/S to a kazillion shares and never have to report it. Nobody will EVER know how many shares are outstanding. We are not only a nonreporting company, but revoked. Urban/Maheu's lips are sealed."
and thats differant how??? he never reported increasing the o/s in the first place. remember why cmkx has been revoked??? not reporting. & he still has to report increasing the share count to nevada which is how we learned about his diluting in the first place. if he doesn't tell nevada then he loses incorporation & it becomes a personal tax liability. that post is a perfect example of why your called a cult. the next thing you know you folks will be bald, wearing sheets & selling certs at an airport.
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i posted this at pb whatever & thought i'd bring it here & see if legal has a comment.
i have a problem with all these deals. i'm a mining company. i have ZERO active mines thus my only income is selling shares. i need cash to keep looking for "the goods". a company i partnered up with quit paying on the deal making that deal null & void. another company wants those interests & more & has cash. why would i let the company that hasn't paid its fair share sell its %?
i'm the new company. i see some claims i want to risk cash on. i have ZERO active mines thus my only cash income is selling shares. a company had part of the claims i want but they have defaulted on their contract with the controling company. i already have shareholders that expect me to do what is right by them. do i (A) tell the controling company i have cash, dump the default company or (B) buy the default company out by diluting my stock by over 200% thus screwing my current shareholders & hurting my future ability to raise money because my pps has tanked from all the new shares? add to that i had to sell 5.3 million shares & dilute my stock by 30% just to get cash to make this deal work in the first place & i had to sell those shares at a 50% discount to my pps when all this started.
didn't cmkx shareholders just find out how bad the management did them with mismanagement, diluting the stock with 703.5 billion shares? if i'm the new company i dont screw my shareholders & my future ability to raise cash by paying a company that is a piece of paper away from having zero rights to the claims i'm interested in. thats foolish. the only reason i'd do that is because of past or future back door deals i don't want anyone to know about.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i posted this at pb whatever & thought i'd bring it here & see if legal has a comment.
i have a problem with all these deals. i'm a mining company. i have ZERO active mines thus my only income is selling shares. i need cash to keep looking for "the goods". a company i partnered up with quit paying on the deal making that deal null & void. another company wants those interests & more & has cash. why would i let the company that hasn't paid its fair share sell its %?
i'm the new company. i see some claims i want to risk cash on. i have ZERO active mines thus my only cash income is selling shares. a company had part of the claims i want but they have defaulted on their contract with the controling company. i already have shareholders that expect me to do what is right by them. do i (A) tell the controling company i have cash, dump the default company or (B) buy the default company out by diluting my stock by over 200% thus screwing my current shareholders & hurting my future ability to raise money because my pps has tanked from all the new shares? add to that i had to sell 5.3 million shares & dilute my stock by 30% just to get cash to make this deal work in the first place & i had to sell those shares at a 50% discount to my pps when all this started.
didn't cmkx shareholders just find out how bad the management did them with mismanagement, diluting the stock with 703.5 billion shares? if i'm the new company i dont screw my shareholders & my future ability to raise cash by paying a company that is a piece of paper away from having zero rights to the claims i'm interested in. thats foolish. the only reason i'd do that is because of past or future back door deals i don't want anyone to know about.
Bill, why don't you just plug in the names and make it understandable as to your "theory"?
"I am a mining company"
"I am a partner mining company"
"I am the controlling company"
Gimme a break, I'm still full of turkey. It's hard enough to read your postings without Caps and leaves little time for trying to figure out what you are trying to say.
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No one comes here to get opinions of legaleagle, they come for opinions on their investment. But I agree, they spend a lot of time attacking the messenger. That works with some people I guess, even if it is otherwise a waste of bandspace.
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I have more news on UC and Legaleagle... I said before that UC was not human, and now I know legal is an alien too. They are both 'Grey's' . Evil aliens working within a US secret government including the British empire's masonic lodges of the Illuminati New World Order to take over the world and enslave mankind. Cmkx is one of the instruments to collasps the US economy and allow the take over to comense. All this is taking place deep underground bases in the western US states and canada... thus the cmkx connection of land ownership in Canada. I discovered information about this inadvertinly while researching cmkx company records. Since I have recieved a strange phone call and noticed unmarked black helicopters hovering near my house yesterday, It has become imperative that I reveal this information to all. As I type this there is another black helicopter passing overhead.... and I and I'm really worr
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stockster, you are taking a HUGE risk saying that publicly, many of us have known about THEM for quite some time and we've been trying to be discreet...
you also forgot to mention what they are putting in the water
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: okanagan is Andy. Very interesting but all of us that did reall dd based on facts already knew this.
By: okanagan 23 Nov 2005, 11:10 PM EST Msg. 284646 of 284701 (This msg. is a reply to 284642 by billyun1.) Jump to msg. # Billyun...
The question of majority ownership first arose I believe via John Martin of the OG telling someone who contacted me. I therefore asked Mr. Casavant about this last week and he confirmed it as true, there was no majority control of CMKX as it is a shell now and why would anyone want control of a shell.
Of course the question then arises as to how the Entourage deal has been done without a proxy vote and I don't have an answer to that. Unfortunately the Task Force is saying very little at this point about anything.
As to the rest of your questions...I am not going to get into details of possible settlement etc. The Task Force has been appointed and the immediate task at hand is to continue having as many people as possible pull shares in cert form. This will take some time and I don't anticipate any settlement this year and IMO until sometime in the Spring. Just my opinion of course.
I now only hope for the best resolution to this and in the fastest possible timeframe for all shareholders.
Quote:By: dustybutler101 23 Nov 2005, 11:34 PM EST Msg. 284653 of 284702 (This msg. is a reply to 284646 by okanagan.) Jump to msg. #
ANDY... You confirmed to me that Urban/insiders had 51% control of the company and this, according to you, was told to you by the corporate attorney. Now you are saying they don't have majority control??
quote:Originally posted by stockster5: I have more news on UC and Legaleagle... I said before that UC was not human, and now I know legal is an alien too. They are both 'Grey's' . Evil aliens working within a US secret government including the British empire's masonic lodges of the Illuminati New World Order to take over the world and enslave mankind. Cmkx is one of the instruments to collasps the US economy and allow the take over to comense. All this is taking place deep underground bases in the western US states and canada... thus the cmkx connection of land ownership in Canada. I discovered information about this inadvertinly while researching cmkx company records. Since I have recieved a strange phone call and noticed unmarked black helicopters hovering near my house yesterday, It has become imperative that I reveal this information to all. As I type this there is another black helicopter passing overhead.... and I and I'm really worr
One severe problem with that theory, stockster. If a being were intelligent enough to master intergalactic travel, they wouldn't want this planet. Have you looked around?
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That dissappoints me legal, have you no love for the arts or natural phenomina? This planet has much to offer if you get out of your computer room, put on some sunglasses since you probably havent been out of that dark room for awhile and go take a look.
1) The great barrier reef and all its natrual wonder would be a fine start. 2) The great sand Dune in Austrailia 3) the chain of mountains around K2 4) the great pryamids and Sphinx in egypt 5) the wonders of the Sahara desert 6) the plains of africa and the indigenous wild life 7) the Medieval and Renaissance structures throughout all of Eurpoe. 8) the Pyramid ruins of the Myans in central America 9) the ruins of the Incan and Atec empires 10) the Auraborialis 11) the Grand Canyon 12) The Great Wall of china 13) Culture of Singapore 14) Moscow 15) Jerusalem 16) Colorado and Wyoming 17) The Smokey Mountains
Yeah your right no reason to visit this primitive backuniverse planet that has absolutely nothing to offer for anyone.
I have no lost what little respect i had for you, especially since you can't even recognize beautry in your own back yard, let alone your own planet.
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One severe problem with that theory, stockster. If a being were intelligent enough to master intergalactic travel, they wouldn't want this planet. Have you looked around? [/QUOTE]
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MM - Not to discourage your arguement, but those reasons may not be the greatest for aliens to visit. Those are all great reasons for us to get out of our houses, but is an alien going to waste whatever fuel they use to see a perhaps average planet such as ours.
There are mountains on mars almost unconceivably taller and more massive than anything our planet provides. I believe there is life out there, such as the life we're asking to visit, and so I also believe there is a most definite chance their varying cultures can have much more exuberant thrills and such.
The second humans find a way to efficiently travel space; I think it would be interesting to see how many of us stay.
"It is the tragedy of the world that no one knows what he doesn't know - and the less a man knows, the more sure he is he knows everything." - Joyce Cary
Crap - My first legitimate CMKX thread post. I'll see if I can make it my last. Matt
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The Entourage PR of October/05 states there has been no NI -43-101 Geologist report done any the claims from United Carina, the Smeaton claims held by Koch's numbered company, or the claims which involved Nevada minerals.
Note: It is called a: Geology, Mineralization and Potential, Property Evaluation Report.
I believe it is a report required if you are reporting in Canada and of course Entourage is reporting via Sedar per the BC Securities Commission requirements as a Canadian head officed company, even though Entourage does not currently trade on a Cdn exchange.
This PR also in Oct/05 further confirms the 25% CMKX to Entourage interest in claims held by United Carina included the Carolyn claims per the statements in the PR:
"The claims include the Carolyn kimberlite pipe and United Carina reported in an October 18, 2005 news release that in a five-hole drill program on this pipe in 2004, samples from one of the holes tested for diamond content. Only two micro-diamonds were recovered, but further testing will probably be conducted on other samples from the drill holes.
The Company expects to make an announcement about the terms of the negotiations should an agreement be reached. There is no NI 43-101 compliant report completed on these claims and there is no assurance that the Company will be successful in reaching a definitive agreement."
So we know from this that United Carina has never done an NI-43-101 report for these claims.
The 50 mill. share stock deal with Entourage was valued at approx. $25 mill. at the time of the announcement per the PPS of Entourage at that time. In recent weeks the PPS of Entourage has declined to a current "paper" price of approx. $11 mill. and of course that will continue to fluctuate.
So the question must be asked....Is this the true value of the claims based on the paper stock deal or is there an ace up the sleeve somewhere? Rumors say as such, but rumors imo do not represent reality and why would Mr. Casavant broker the claims for less than what they are really worth?
Does valuation through Entourage's future efforts effect the possibility of settlement size re the manipulation and naked shorting of CMKX? Or does it now become a completely separate issue which only comes into play via the future increase in the PPS of Entourage and a possible short squeeze created by the Entourage/CMKX deal?
Regarding CIM, IMO it only contains the zinc claims at this point. Mr. Casavant had indicated the intention to take CIM public but no date for this to be achieved has ever been confirmed.
It has recently come to light (John Martin of the OG and further validated to me by Mr. Casavant), that noone retains majority control of CMKX now. I have therefore concluded the float is most likely close to the outstanding and hence this has completely changed my opinion of what the ratio of naked short to float may be. I had hoped the previous forebearance factor may have seen the o/s reduced by 600 bill. shares, but that seems unlikely, IMO. How does this then effect the ability of the Task Force to put pressure on the Regulatory bodies pertaining to a desired settlement?
Hence, it remains crucially important IMO for all shareholders to continue to comply with the request of the Task Force to pull your shares in Cert form and fax a copy of your Cert. Every share and every Cert counts and needs to be counted to dry up the 703 bill official outstanding.
Additionally, one has to question how the Entourage deal can be effected without CMKX shareholders being given the opportunity to vote (?), if there is no majority control as this point. I know this question is already being asked by some shareholders and even Mr. Frizzell appears to be unable to come up with an answer so far.
Or for that matter, how can the affairs of CMKX be wound up without a vote by shareholders? Again, this is a question which should be addressed IMO to Mr. Frizzel as a member of the Task Force.
I would like to, as would all shareholders, receive some clarity from Mr. Maheu as Trustee of the Task Force on a number of these questions. I remain very optimistic Mr. Maheu and the Task Force will be successful in obtaining a settlement for shareholders. I see nothing to indicate and verify a settlement has been reached at this point. The fax campaign is to run until Dec. 31 and per my conversation with Helen Bagley at 1st Global the other day, she felt this date may need extending, based on her own resources to get certs out to everyone asap. IMO, any settlement will not come until the fax campaign is completed and the Task Force has properly assimilated the data to present our case to Regulatory bodies.
IMO, we have no way of knowing if there are any current negotiations in progress or concluded negotiations unless we receive a verification of such from the Task Force. Mr. Frizzell as a member of the Task Force has stated he is not aware of any concluded settlment discussions in his email updates to the OG.
I prefer to see an official Press Release as proper evidence of such and all matters pertaining to CMKX and effecting all CMKX shareholders.
Many have questioned why I am setting my personal expectation of a settlement at .005 or half a cent. It is purely my own opinion (never discussed with Mr. Casavant). It is based on the premise that if one had purchased 50 mill. shares at .0001, this would translate to approx. a 3000% gain or $250,000 before in-cost of $5000. and commission fees. Pretty darn satisfactory, IMO, but I will have no hesitation in accepting more if it is achieved and of course it might be less. In reality at this point, IMO shareholders simply don't know.
Just my opinion on all of this and I am sure everyone will have their various opinions on my opinions..LOL Nor is it my desire to fan the fire regarding any of this. I only hope for the best and quickest conclusion possible from our Task Force and they should continue to receive our utmost support and cooperation.
quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: That dissappoints me legal, have you no love for the arts or natural phenomina? This planet has much to offer if you get out of your computer room, put on some sunglasses since you probably havent been out of that dark room for awhile and go take a look.
1) The great barrier reef and all its natrual wonder would be a fine start. 2) The great sand Dune in Austrailia 3) the chain of mountains around K2 4) the great pryamids and Sphinx in egypt 5) the wonders of the Sahara desert 6) the plains of africa and the indigenous wild life 7) the Medieval and Renaissance structures throughout all of Eurpoe. 8) the Pyramid ruins of the Myans in central America 9) the ruins of the Incan and Atec empires 10) the Auraborialis 11) the Grand Canyon 12) The Great Wall of china 13) Culture of Singapore 14) Moscow 15) Jerusalem 16) Colorado and Wyoming 17) The Smokey Mountains
Yeah your right no reason to visit this primitive backuniverse planet that has absolutely nothing to offer for anyone.
I have no lost what little respect i had for you, especially since you can't even recognize beautry in your own back yard, let alone your own planet.
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One severe problem with that theory, stockster. If a being were intelligent enough to master intergalactic travel, they wouldn't want this planet. Have you looked around?
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You aren't far from the truth.. when i found jb/leagleeagle i also googled his nick noahtl... you know what i found?? The GUY LIVES on the INTERNET! He plays mudd and other online text fantasy games and I created a fake account on one just to watch him and god the guy is insane with a crazy ego trip over the net. The guy is playing almost 12-13 plus hours a day.. i mean he LIVES on the internet! Going to chat rooms/trolling message boards and playing online role playing text based fantasy games.. the guy has no life and lives in a fantasy world... and no he wasn't a cop but i'm to polite and feel way to sorry for him to post what he really did with his life.
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Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 14 Karma: 0 Re: Hey Andy, you putz..... « Reply #25 on Today at 4:43am » I told you guys urban and insiders own nothing... they dumped because there is no value in cmkx. To explore these claims on 1.4 million acreas takes years and tons of money. When the fax campaign is finished we will if lucky get the 14000 to 1 ratio about 1/3 of our investment back, then most likely entourage will struggle with financing and more than likely go away after the insiders sell there shares. But remember our shares will be restricted until the stock price is about 0003 from all the selling... That is the way the games are played we will always lose.. I want to say this is the risk for dealing with a company that can't file. You would be better off to play in vegas at least you can talk to the dealer lol...............................................
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Originally posted by Monopoly Money: That dissappoints me legal, have you no love for the arts or natural phenomina? This planet has much to offer if you get out of your computer room, put on some sunglasses since you probably havent been out of that dark room for awhile and go take a look.
how about unnatural phenomina??? Pam Anderson, the Pistons cheerleaders, the cowboy cheerleaders, 50K blondies in L.A., supermodels, almost supermodels, the hookers in Toronto or Vegas. you need a reason to visit earth, well any of these beats those reptile like females they have been doing...lol
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No, other points of view are fun to look at when talking about this subject. Lets take some things into consideration from a scientific point of view. This planet as evolved and changed over the past 3.5 - 4.45 billion years along with its inhabitants. Creatures have evolved along that whole time from single cell organisiums to the 2 legged creatures we are today. Every major step was the cause of some external force outside the "system". I.E. an ice age due to a meteorite hit. And also massive changes internal to the "system" such as shifting plates, such as india breaking off of africa and slamming into south Asia.
The point is if you think about from an evolutionary standpoint, we are very interesting to see how the indigneous planet and animal life have evolved due to the changes that have occured. I really dont want to get into the debate, creationisim vrs Evolution, i will save that for another time when im feeling better and not working on finals. But just pointing out some of the things that a more evolved and scientifically advanced race might find interesting on our little rock island in space.
quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: MM - Not to discourage your arguement, but those reasons may not be the greatest for aliens to visit. Those are all great reasons for us to get out of our houses, but is an alien going to waste whatever fuel they use to see a perhaps average planet such as ours.
There are mountains on mars almost unconceivably taller and more massive than anything our planet provides. I believe there is life out there, such as the life we're asking to visit, and so I also believe there is a most definite chance their varying cultures can have much more exuberant thrills and such.
The second humans find a way to efficiently travel space; I think it would be interesting to see how many of us stay.
"It is the tragedy of the world that no one knows what he doesn't know - and the less a man knows, the more sure he is he knows everything." - Joyce Cary
Crap - My first legitimate CMKX thread post. I'll see if I can make it my last. Matt
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Well i was pointing out natural a long time to create. You are assuming that an alien race that might visit earth reproduces in the same way we do, and on top of that your also assuming that said alien race finds the same qualities in a mate beautiful as we do.
Excluding those points, thats a hell of a good enough reason for me to visit any of the places and i live here:)
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: Originally posted by Monopoly Money: That dissappoints me legal, have you no love for the arts or natural phenomina? This planet has much to offer if you get out of your computer room, put on some sunglasses since you probably havent been out of that dark room for awhile and go take a look.
how about unnatural phenomina??? Pam Anderson, the Pistons cheerleaders, the cowboy cheerleaders, 50K blondies in L.A., supermodels, almost supermodels, the hookers in Toronto or Vegas. you need a reason to visit earth, well any of these beats those reptile like females they have been doing...lol
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Total Recall didnt have aliens, it was based on humans expanding to Mars, and that the human miners had mutated due to toxic/radioactive elements in the mines. No those were not aliens those were humans mutating/evolving due to something externally affecting the system. However if i recall they did have trips you could take to the outter rings of Saturn, but i dont think humans had left the solar system yet, at least nothing that i recall the movie pointing out. OH DEAR GOD maybe they got me too.
quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: Lol bill. Again I'll bring up the possibilities of alien worlds. Total Recall? Ha. Not sure if I'm attracted to them though. Matt
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There was aliens.. they were the ones who built the huge heaters that vaporized the ice to disperse oxygen into the atmosphere. Ohhh there was aliens... you just didn't see them.
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DAMNIT, see they did get to me... i didnt "RECALL" that at all. Okay you got me i completely forgot about the main point of the movie, a 3 fingers alien can building very large nueclear reactors to melt a lot of ice.
quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: There was aliens.. they were the ones who built the huge heaters that vaporized the ice to disperse oxygen into the atmosphere. Ohhh there was aliens... you just didn't see them.
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