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Also, the fact that Friz is on cmkm board looks to me like he was never a partner to the shareholders at any point. S5
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Did CMKM ever claim of illegal listing on the Berlin Bremen exchange and naked shorts there? Because one of my stocks just PR'd about being on Berlin Bremen and blaming them for low prices. Then released another pr about illegal bashing posters on boards and how they are going after them. Sheesh, holy cmkx batman..............
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quote:Originally posted by will: That's the oldest tactic in the book, Ric. Especially used by CMKX faithful pumpers. You ask them to offer hard proof of their claims , and they ask you to prove their claims aren't accurate or true. They don't debate or answer questions, they talk from both sides of their mouth.
Prove it legal. The burden of proof is on the one claiming that NSS exists regarding CMKX. The SEC says it wasn't shorted, it's not on the SHO list. There's two sources of proof it wasn't shorted. Prove them wrong and offer you proof that CMKX is shorted to extreme proportions.
THE PROOF OF NAKED SHORTING IS WHAT WE ARE AWAITING. THE ONLY ENTITY WITH THE PROOF IS THE SEC AND DTCC AND THEY AREN'T TALKING. WHY? READ FRIZZELL'S POST ABOVE:
"I have sued the SEC to get the fails to deliver information but have not been successful in obtaining that info from the SEC."
WHY HASN'T THE SEC RESPONDED TO LEGAL REQUESTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO "PROTECT" THE SHAREHOLDERS THAT SO MANY HERE SEEM CONCERNED WITH? SIMPLY RELEASING THE TRUE NUMBERS COULD HAVE PREVENTED HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF NEW SHAREHOLDERS FROM GETTING INVOLVED.
YOU KNOW THE ANSWER AS WELL AS I DO.
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That's a new definition of "naked shorts"....LOL
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here is a little math to refresh your memory legal. something you pointed out when talking about how long it would take to cover a short.
5 billion shares of cmkx traded daily on average for 3 yrs = 3 trillion shares. (if i remember correctly that over the number the t/a used in court) thats based on 200 trading days per yr. total reported volume is both buys & sells added together. from the master list we can prove about 1.5 trillion of that volume, thats 1 for the issue & 1 for the sell. that leaves about 500 billion per yr of combined buys & sells. the 5 billion number is probably about right, we know it had a number of 30 billion volume days & a large number of 5 to 10 billion days, the master list proves this. the first yr cmkx traded in the millions as using 3 yrs would go back to 2002. cmkx has had a very large number of 1 to 2 billion days. thus using a 500 billion per yr, not on master list number would probably pass all average standards. if you just subtracted the issue it would still be only 750 billion per yr of total volume.
500 billion....if 50% of that number was buys & long term holds you'd have 750 billion or just over the known o/s of 703.5 billion. (a number frizzy believes according to latest news.) any polling or average system used will tell you there is no way 50% would be bought & still held.
to have a 2 trillion o/s, real & naked combined that average daily volume would need to be at least 15 billion for 3 straight yrs. that did not happen but then i'm using normal ppl's math not cmkx cult math.
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The distribution is in certificate form so we can win. Please hear me out!
CMKM Diamonds - Authorized Outstanding Shares? – (703 billion) Company is responsible to cover - Legitimate – Bona fide shareholders -703,000,000,000 (apt to change) Qualify for distribution of Entourage and CMKX Assets to be paid by the company - Direct distribution from the Task Force After Share legitimacy is determined by Presentation of an authorized certificate From 1st Global Transfer signed by an Authorized officer of CMKX. Not one Share of the NSS position will be paid the asset distribution by the company. It would be illegal for the company to take “legitimate bona fide shareholders” distribution of the Assets and give them to a non share holder. Stay with me please!
Counterfeit – Naked Short Shares Non-authorized company shares – These shares are owed by MM/Broker/DTCC/NSCC) - SHORTY MM/Broker/DTCC/NSCC – Unauthorized O/S =Unknown Trillions Counterfeiters are responsible to cover Illegitimate – Naked short shareholders - Unknown trillions “qualify” for distribution of Entourage And CMKX assets to be paid or matched by the Counterfeiters/Shorty.- Distribution will be negotiated among Counterfeiters/Shorty as to who is responsible and who owes the payment to the shareholder. But, equal shares of CMKX distribution will have to be paid to all Electronic shares or shareholder action will be taken against the brokers who purchased illegitimate shares and placed them in their clients account. Many brokers have hedged their position with rules in place allowing them to reverse all trades and refund purchase price and transaction fees back to a determined date on any security. But in this particular instance I don’t think SHORTY has a chance! JMHO of course.
The CMKX Certificate Holders and the NSS position electronic holders of CMKX are in a position to make all CMKXers a bundle of cash and shares if this scenario is how Urban, Maheu, Stoecklein, and Frizzell intend to make the market cover.
It could be that Urban selected a company and a method that could expose the SEC/DTC/NSCC/& Co-counterfeiters. The deliverance of certificated shares of CMKX to the company for the Entourage and CMKX asset distribution will be answered by the company with certificated shares of Entourage and certificated shares of numerous CMKX assets distributed to the shareholders which cannot be electronically placed in a shareholders account.
Therefore, “Shorty”, whomever you determine that to be, that owes the entire NSS position is either forced to obtain matching shares for the CMKX certificate share distribution and issue them to the naked short shareholders of electronic shares or default and be brought up on charges.
If they choose to cover and I believe they have no choice:
1. Shorty will have to either begin buying into Entourage to obtain the necessary shares to cover the NSS position with (but they wouldn’t be restricted) and then pull certificates on them or they will have to approach Entourage and obtain the shares in a private placement of some sort and pay the shares legitimately.
2. Secondly CMKX owns 200 billion shares of SGGM. SGGM did not challenge a revocation a few months ago and therefore Shorty will have a difficult time legitimately covering these shares in certificate form. Shorty would have no choice but to get a private placement in SGGM which could net SGGM billions which could then be distributed to shareholders/us.
3. CMKX still owns at least 20 billion shares of CIM (Casavant International Mining), Ron Casavant – president, plus a 10% lifetime royalty, all of which will be distributed to CMKX shareholders. Shorty will have equal difficult times trying to obtain these shares in certificate form and also negotiating to get the NSS position an equal piece of the 10% lifetime revenues. Especially if CMKX stuck an OREO (humungous diamondiferous kimberlite pipe) or two in CIM before the transfer to Entourage. These monies, easily equaling billions of dollars as well could and should be paid to shareholders/us for a lifetime.
4. this holds true for USCA/UCAD, Shane Resources, United Carina, the American Mine and any other entity or asset that CMKX has tied the knot with. Each one equally valuable and capable of yielding millions and/or billions of dollars to be equally distributed to shareholders. The distribution is in certificate form so we can win.
The certificate holders initiate the plan by removing all legitimate 703 billion (or whatever it is) out of the TA and market permanently exposing Shorty. The certificate holders exchange the entire authorized and legitimate OS and put it in certificate form in the company’s hand.
As I said Shorty can’t cover the distribution with electronic markers or further NSS because payment will be in paper from the company. Then enters the pressure from the counterfeit shareholders (electronic shares not covered or pulled) as Shorty cannot fake certificates without having the U.S. Secret Service, CIA, FBI, and all of the counterfeiting enforcement agencies on their back. The SEC/DTCC cannot protect them if they counterfeit a stock certificate as that is exactly like counterfeiting U.S. Currency. We know Shorty is used to winning and rarely loses and will not be happy, but Shorty is not ignorant to the fact that Senators, governors, Attorney Generals, Representatives, Well known business men, etc… have been not only made aware of the circumstances surrounding CMKX, but some of them are shareholders. Shorty loves to win, but he doesn’t like getting worldwide exposure, going to jail, ruining the stability of the U.S. Economy, and still having to pay up on the backend.
If I am seeing this right, then the Certificated shareholders slam the door on Shorty because the company pays back and distributes in certificates to the shareholders. Nothing electronic can be permitted because that is where Shorty reigns supreme. You take the game out of Shorty’s arena and you break him down to size and he loses. Low Tech Rules! The electronic shareholders that couldn’t get certificates are the back breaking pressure for Shorty as he is forced to buy-in, match, settle, and pay out in CERTIFICATE Form to the company and then to the naked short shareholders or go directly to jail and ruin the stability of the U.S. Economy.
This plan, if Urban chooses to use it, would therefore include all certificate shareholders (bona fide) the covering of all NSS holders (electronic – non cert and non direct registered), because Shorty has to fork over certificated shares by buying to the companies he has to get them from. This makes all formerly illegitimate shareholders now legitimate shareholders in the distributed entities (companies) that have been included by CMKX’s distribution.
The monies generated from Shorty being forced to buy in to these companies generates cash dividends from all companies to the shareholders, of which we would all legitimately be shareholders, and when the settlements are paid out, we are still holding all of our shares in Entourage, CMKX, CIM, SGGM, GEMM, etc… that we started with, and more…
This is just an idea I had at how things could work out. Thanks for listening. These are of course just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.
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legal, we have been there & done that...3 times in fact. there was no cover. USCA, GEMM, CIM & since CIM is not traded it can't be shorted. now you think it will happen because why??? its a differant company??? same mistakes but expect differant results = insanity.
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not being forced to convert Thorn. cmkx is closing its doors for good according to 8-K out sunday. everything was sold to entourage for shares. those shares are going to cmkx shareholders.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: legal, we have been there & done that...3 times in fact. there was no cover. USCA, GEMM, CIM & since CIM is not traded it can't be shorted. now you think it will happen because why??? its a differant company??? same mistakes but expect differant results = insanity.
bill, you seem to forget "markers"
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legal, that trash dr. d posted is why ppl that call cmkx a scam still post on this board. SGGM will not be trading very soon thus the shares cmkx holds are not assets. in accounting they go in the loss colume. if that isn't true then cmkx owes sggm some of the entourage shares. cmkx gave sggm 5% of all its claims for cash & shares. cmkx can not then sell off those claims without either sggm's ok & paying sggm a cut or paying back the cash & giving back the shares. in fact since cmkx is in default on those claims they probably owe sggm something. that is if there was a sggm. its revoked & everyone went home. & thats just section 2 of dr. d's trash.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: not being forced to convert Thorn. cmkx is closing its doors for good according to 8-K out sunday. everything was sold to entourage for shares. those shares are going to cmkx shareholders.
So then, there really is no accountability on the part of the ns holders, right? I mean, it would instead be up to Entourage to submit the shares. Seems to me that IF there are any ns shares that the holders can just sit on them. I don't see anything being exposed, least of all some counterfeit shares (if they even exist).
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Methinks Dr.D and legal (and some others) just like to hear themselves talk. Just a bunch of self-serving drivel, IMO. If this, if that, if another thing.
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The only problem with that theory is NNS for one which isn't proved. Even Frizzy finally admitted that.
But in the fairyland were NNS is possible, all the DTCC had to do is issue NNS shares of entourage to cover those in CMKX. And since this amounts to a 14,000:1 R/S then they would even have to short it that much.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Open to interpretation.
Just prove that it is or was shorted to an extreme.
OPEN TO INTERPRETATION?????? LOL
IT'S VERY CLEAR. THE JUDGE ASKED IF THEY WANTED TO STIPULATE THAT CMKX WAS NAKED SHORTED. THEY SIMPLY STATED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO STIPULATE IT. AND IT'S ALSO INTERESTING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT FRIZZELL TO PROVE IT EITHER.
They didn't want Frizzell to do anything because he had no business being there!!!! He milked investors out of $100k+.... he even had the nerve to have a Paypal button for covering the fees of "investors who are less fortunate".... what a F'n joke! This whole thing!
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And also, most brokerage house have a clause in there contracts that says basically if they don't recieve shares or cash in a dividend then they are not obligated to cover it.
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quote:Originally posted by will: That isn't proof, just more misinformation and conjecture to siut your contentions. Sorry, fella, not good enough. Try again.
AS CLOSE AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET UNTIL MAHEU UNLEASHES THE DOGS, AND FORCES SHORTY'S HAND. THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SIT AND MENTALLY CALCULATE YOUR LOSSES.
The only thing Maheu unleashes are the straps on his Depends undergarmets!
YOU JUST QUOTED THE TRIAL ABOUT THE NSS..... WHY DON'T YOU QUOTE MAHEU? ANSWER.... THE POOR OLD MAN KNOWS NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So none of us will get crap unless we have the certs?
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Ed, I would bet everyone will get there shares. No NNS has been proved. Everyone got there other divy's. Whether it was what they expected or not.
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What makes you think that even if there was naked short selling that the MMs would somehow need to cover now?
I want to know why MMs would waste their time NSS a pink sheet stock when they can make so much more by NSS companies that are about to collaspe.
A good example of this was MLXO. I bought in at .08 and .03, Cornell capital shorts it down 4 million around Mid-March or so, then covers in early October.
These companies don't have to turn to the Pinks to make money. They short the companies on the NASDAQ and AMEX till they BECOME Pinks to make money.
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as ric & i have proven to get the NS the cult believes exists cmkx's volume would have had to be around 15 billion per day for 3 yrs. DIDN"T HAPPEN!!!!!
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i really didn't think th share of ETGMF would be restricted. Thought they would do one good thing for the shareholders but I guess I was wrong. They are restricted shares.
CDLIC God of Diamonds Joined: Aug 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 4,710 Location: http://tinypic.com/evayw4.gif Entourage Pres:"Yes, PR Today +Drilling Plans etc" « Thread Started on Today at 3:12pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi All,
I just completed a very enlightening, 10-minute call with Mr. Kennedy, President of Entourage.
Here is how the call went:
The phone rang about ten times. A man answered with "hello." I asked who this is. He sounded a bit flustered. He said "Is this a CMKX shareholder...." I said yes. He said " I am so busy, I wish you guys would stop calling today....we are attempting to get things done, however, we cannot because of all hundreds of CMKM calls...you know we are a small company and don't have the staff to cover these calls." [He was getting more upset as he spoke].
I replied stating that I can help him out by letting everyone know on the Boards he and his staff are presently in call-overflow, thus, by me posting such, it should help cut down the calls to him. He paused and said he apologized for "sort of barking at me...." however, he is sure I could understand his frustration. I said I indeed can. [Some small talk for a minute or so].
I then told him I was just calling to ask about the possibility of receiving information regarding the private placement offering by Entourage. He said he could provide me with such. He also said that “I am just attempting to get everything together, all the schedules, to make sure everything is correct on the transfer before I file it. I am hoping to get an announcement out today as to how we are doing and everything; it looks like it is going to happen if I can just clear the decks for about a few hours today." [Some more small talk].
I said thank you, and offered to end the conversation. He said "I am happy to answer whatever questions you may have at this time because I am actually enjoying the conversation."
Here are the questions I asked, with his answers:
Q: Will our dividends be restricted? A: Yes, they will be restricted. However, once the shares are distributed by CMKM, we will do our utmost to register the dividend share so they will become free-trading. I would be foolish to issue $50 million free-trading shares with only $18 million out; they could be voting against me within a week if I did so or pounding on them (I believe he means selling them overnight). I been at this for quite some time; I use to be a broker and understand this area well. We did make some provisos in the agreement that the CMKM shares will be meted out, I don't know how exactly how they will do it, and it is not really my call, but I will instruct the trustee, or whom ever will do that, that to satisfy their requirements, [he said something at about this point that he did not know how CMKM was going to meter out the shares, and is not really his call] I will file the proper docs and do my utmost to get those shares free-trading, but there are no guarantees on doing so. All shares will be given to CMKM at the same time. He will be in touch with whom ever will be responsible for metering-out the shares.
Q: Will the private placement shares BE restricted in the present private placement you are offering and plan to offer?A: Yes, everything will be restricted. The private placement we issued late last year in December/Jan, are also restricted, however, those restrictions will be coming off this December (NOTE: those are the shares that the Casavants and Koch own~ this was not stated in the conversation; it is being written by me know to point out such).
Q: Do you have the money to seal the deal with CMKM today?A: I am waiting for a couple other subscription agreements and checks to come, and they are not here yet...and we have a couple of hours to go today.
Q: Do you have the sites and targets picked where you are going to drill on some CMKM claims?A: Actually, Rick Walker from United Carina is actually line-cutting in the next two weeks on the Hatched Lake property. There are ten to twelve holes on the Saskatchewan /Smeaton property [the Forte a la Corne] --his estimation. He had not spoken to the people at Nevada Minerals as yet to get a full picture of that property.
My take on this, and it is just my opinion, think this is going to be a very good think for everyone. We have a lot of experience in what we are doing on this; my partner has already found a diamond mine in Northern Canada--it is not in production as yet--but it will be; DeBeers is their partner with up to 60% interest in the project. We are going to do our best to move this project forward quickly, and if we can just get over this little hump--everyone calling and everything--get everybody settled down and enjoy the scenery.
We will actually be doing our utmost to get some drills working as soon as we can--I can't give you any time-lines. Our task is to get things up-and-running.... look at what these properties have got and find out whether or not there is anything is in the ground. Let's get to the bottom of what these properties may or may not have.
Q: So, you do expect to get a PR out today if all goes as planned? A: Yes, I really want to get it out! Just see if you can assist in stopping the CMKX shareholders from calling for today.
I found Mr. Kennedy to appear to be sincere, energized, excited about the deal with CMKM, and really wanting to find out if there are any minerals/diamonds on the CMKM claims.
Onward,
CDLIC
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EFF U URBAN.... let me guess all part of the plan, i know the plan, steal my money and then pawn me off to your kids and sisters and brothers and nephews and friends to try to get some for them to. Oh boy i get a couple token Entourage shares (kinda like the free sample of heroin to get you hooked in) And restrict them so you ensure that i am here for another Year or two....great more restricted shares, Kinda funny that all the ones that Uc's family got are coming on line now because the year is up in december for their resticted shares. And while you string us along while we buy Entourage to get the price up --your family can sell the shares they FRONTLOADED>>>> Knowing that you were giving the land (yes i mean GIVING because all those claims would be worth more to debeers or others in the diamond industry) And what do i get out of this deal???? ,,,, I get a revoked company, thousands of dollars in shares of a company with no claims, restricted shares that will be part of a group of shares that will dilute Entourage by 200% ---and UC et al get free trading shares as of next month a YEAR before the dilution shares will be released. Well I feel better about this deal GGGGRRRRRRRRR>......... I never liked it and i think it REAKS of frontloading insider trading. It is not only ilegal to sell on inside info, it is also illegal to BUY on inside info. FRIGGIN THIEF. Did you really think this would be ok with us??? I HOPE YOU GO TO JAIL!!
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Just remember that the final order isn't final until its delivered to CMKX. So there may be some trading Monday. I bet pps will be nothing. Well, even worse nothing, lol.
I can see this like the USCI thread when there was some phantom trade after it was final and they made up wild dreams that it wasn't over. LOL
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its over,,, as a long supporter, even i agree ,,,,It is finished now
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Just remember that the final order isn't final until its delivered to CMKX. So there may be some trading Monday. I bet pps will be nothing. Well, even worse nothing, lol.
I can see this like the USCI thread when there was some phantom trade after it was final and they made up wild dreams that it wasn't over. LOL
And I'll bet that many of the "faithful" will be buying on Monday if possible.
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Pr just after closing bell. Entourage got the money, so this is a done deal.
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tictoc, please don't post pics like the first one. that's pretty bad
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From Ivory on the good time board -----------------------------------
It took them no time to think.LOL which has amazed me today...I believe they(SEC)have done the right thing and some of us have expected that would happen. They did it so quick and the way the TEAM has asked for. They have either to halt CMKX or to revoke CMKX because of our GOOD dividends are coming. Think it this way that Frizzell has to declare the record date before dividends can be distributed. The time b/w the Declaration date and the Record date could be 10 days which everyone would buy CMKX like crazy due to the too good dividends. This would drive to volume bananas and everthing else go nuts so the SEC....The TEAM & SEC did not want to see this buying Frenzy in CMKX to happen...Just a thought!
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