10) You won't have to admit you were wrong. 9) It would cost more to get rid of them. 8) To help prove the NS. 7) Dinner placemats for the rest of your life. 6) Wouldn't want to upset Urban. 5) The certificates fit the bottom of the bird cage perfectly. 4) Cheaper than buring oil this winter. 3) It would save space in landfills. 2) Legal was right all along! 1) Toilet paper.
(not intending to offend, a little humor is good for the soul).
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quote:Originally posted by Thorn: Top 10 reasons to hang on to CMKX shares:
10) You won't have to admit you were wrong. 9) It would cost more to get rid of them. 8) To help prove the NS. 7) Dinner placemats for the rest of your life. 6) Wouldn't want to upset Urban. 5) The certificates fit the bottom of the bird cage perfectly. 4) Cheaper than buring oil this winter. 3) It would save space in landfills. 2) Legal was right all along! 1) Toilet paper.
(not intending to offend, a little humor is good for the soul).
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If you don't like a board that allows freedom of speech and investors that don't mind giving advise on both sides of the issue then legal will welcome you with open arms on pb57 where thay will ban anyone that doesn't believe what the cult preaches. Otherwise you need to either bring facts here that support your case and be involved in the debate instead of going after people that do bring facts here whether its negative or positive on a stock.
How does anyone ever become an informed investor if all they want to here is the pump?
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Excuse me? I was only asking if any of you complainers owned the stock? Can you answer the question? If you do own the stock, maybe I have more questions as to why you think I should hold it or sell it. If you don't own any, then I would wonder why you put so much time into complaining about something you have no stake in?
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a4realguy, you have a good question for Ric. He has said many times that he doesn't own the stock, yet he frequently visits CMKX ********s 57 and 60, as well as Willy Wizards Underground Paltalk and seems to monitor at least 16 hours a day here.
He is truly a dedicated public servant, defending the rights and freedoms of newbies, world wide.
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And speaking of a board with freedom of speech: Reread my post, you can't even use the word "pro boards" here, much less link anyone to a pertinent post.
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quote:Originally posted by a4realguy: Excuse me? I was only asking if any of you complainers owned the stock? Can you answer the question? If you do own the stock, maybe I have more questions as to why you think I should hold it or sell it. If you don't own any, then I would wonder why you put so much time into complaining about something you have no stake in?
A friend of yours comes up to you and tells you he's thinking about buying a certain car that you happen to think is a pos. You don't own it though so you can't tell him your thoughts? That same friend then tells you he's thinking of investing in a certain company. You happen to know something about it but you don't own it, gotta keep your lips sealed, right? It's a ridiculous premise to state "if you don't own it, you can't discuss it." It's called a debate where two different sides have strong opinions. Ownership has nothing to do with it.
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CMKX volume trade today is 37% of the OTCBB...
[ edit: just went up to 40%... ]
Kind of puts things into perspective for trading on the OTCBB, eh?
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If people only discussed stocks they owned, then every forum thread would contain positive posts about "up-and-coming" stocks and negative posts about stocks that were a big disappointment. That would be so boring. What would be the point of having a forum if you can't discuss the risks and downfalls of a stock? I thought that was why we were here (other than greed, that is).
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Only 1/3 of the shares traded, which equates to about 1/5,000,000,000 of the value.
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quote:Originally posted by a4realguy: Excuse me? I was only asking if any of you complainers owned the stock? Can you answer the question? If you do own the stock, maybe I have more questions as to why you think I should hold it or sell it. If you don't own any, then I would wonder why you put so much time into complaining about something you have no stake in?
A friend of yours comes up to you and tells you he's thinking about buying a certain car that you happen to think is a pos. You don't own it though so you can't tell him your thoughts? That same friend then tells you he's thinking of investing in a certain company. You happen to know something about it but you don't own it, gotta keep your lips sealed, right? It's a ridiculous premise to state "if you don't own it, you can't discuss it." It's called a debate where two different sides have strong opinions. Ownership has nothing to do with it.
But Upside, while not directed at you personally, if someone doesn't own a stock it certainly leaves people wondering why anyone would spend a great deal of time on it.
I owned PCBM at one time. Didn't like it then. Sold.
I didn't go back to the thread ever again, because I had no interest left in it.
I had no monetary gains or losses at stake any longer, so I no longer had any motivation to stay.
I felt no obligation to stay and tell anyone, newbies or oldtimers, why I didn't like it.
I didn't stay for the purpose of argument just because I might like to tell everyone how stupid they were for being in it, or ridicule their every post and thought.
I didn't stay day and night posting every possible negative item I could find.
I didn't try to spy on the positive posters to find their true identity, nor did I publish personal information that I may have known about the positive posters there.
In short, anyone spending a great deal of time on a stock thread of a security that they don't own, either has to be a paid basher, or really needs to be doing a little self-examination of their motivations and agenda.
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Do you have a problem because I bring real facts to the board or is it that I busted your bubble of this crazy sting theory. Or is it the fact I have to question your intentions when you take the obvious and play it to your own spin like the revoked situation where you claim to have been in law enforcement but has no clue how the legal system works. And that it doesn't happen over night. This stock will be stopped soon and you know that.
I am not a paid basher, and I am probably one of the few that made money on this stock last year. But I do have a real good friend that was suckered into this stock along with prrm only to lose all his money. He was young and didn't know enough not to listen to people like you. Talk about agendas making up these false statements trying to get people not to get out with a little bit. The 8-K was so clear and what do you feel you gain by stopping people from not losing what little they have left.
It is sad that people would do this to other people without regard to what it will do to them. The people that were conned into this stock are poor to middle class people with little to no investment experience with promises of diamonds. Then when the facts do come out, these PAID PUMPERS come to these boards trying to get these poor people to hold and make up wild dreams and pass them off as facts. Talk about doing a little sel-examination of their motivations and agendas.
Finished with my rant. Besides there are good people in here that make good debates and good friends. And what is this spying on positive posters crap? Are you paranoid? I haven't seen no one do that.
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quote:In short, anyone spending a great deal of time on a stock thread of a security that they don't own, either has to be a paid basher, or really needs to be doing a little self-examination of their motivations and agenda.
Wrong, I post in the PLNI thread about once a month or so to warn them that PLNI is going nowhere. The fscking CEO promised an audit and didn't release it. What kind of an idiot does that and worse yet, GETS AWAY WITH IT?
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It really is sad that all these people like Jay, Acca, Dr. D, Sterling, and Willy willy make up these stories and pass them off as fact to make the sheep stay with the flock. They should go to jail. Do you really think that these people would have stay like they did if all these people didn't make all these promises that were never meet.
It just bugs me. And the Truth needs to be told.
Don't get mad at the messenger, bring facts to prove him wrong. Not theories or possibilities. Don't take one word out of a PR and try and make it a hidden message. This is a public company where all investor deserve the truth. Not parables.
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OMG THIS THING IS GONNA RUN!!! JUST LOOK AT THE CHARTS! OMG!
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quote:Originally posted by a4realguy: Excuse me? I was only asking if any of you complainers owned the stock? Can you answer the question? If you do own the stock, maybe I have more questions as to why you think I should hold it or sell it. If you don't own any, then I would wonder why you put so much time into complaining about something you have no stake in?
A friend of yours comes up to you and tells you he's thinking about buying a certain car that you happen to think is a pos. You don't own it though so you can't tell him your thoughts? That same friend then tells you he's thinking of investing in a certain company. You happen to know something about it but you don't own it, gotta keep your lips sealed, right? It's a ridiculous premise to state "if you don't own it, you can't discuss it." It's called a debate where two different sides have strong opinions. Ownership has nothing to do with it.
But Upside, while not directed at you personally, if someone doesn't own a stock it certainly leaves people wondering why anyone would spend a great deal of time on it.
I owned PCBM at one time. Didn't like it then. Sold.
I didn't go back to the thread ever again, because I had no interest left in it.
I had no monetary gains or losses at stake any longer, so I no longer had any motivation to stay.
I felt no obligation to stay and tell anyone, newbies or oldtimers, why I didn't like it.
I didn't stay for the purpose of argument just because I might like to tell everyone how stupid they were for being in it, or ridicule their every post and thought.
I didn't stay day and night posting every possible negative item I could find.
I didn't try to spy on the positive posters to find their true identity, nor did I publish personal information that I may have known about the positive posters there.
In short, anyone spending a great deal of time on a stock thread of a security that they don't own, either has to be a paid basher, or really needs to be doing a little self-examination of their motivations and agenda.
What you are saying is true in most cases, with most stocks. I've been burned on others and rarely post on those threads anymore. This one however, this one is the queen mother of all stock scams and from my viewpoint at least, it's just an amazing story. It truly baffles me how people can still believe in it and to not point that out is next to impossible. Especially when you see an obvious newbie come here and question whether or not to buy it. For some reason, it appears as though it's not proper to help a first timer out anymore. I guess the proper thing to do is to let the poor sap lose everything, apparently that's some kind of screwed up "school of hard knocks" type of thinking, I don't know. In any event I still don't see the relevency of owning or not owning a stock. If you know something, good or bad, post it, whether you own it or not.
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Q-invest...in answer to your post ... umm UC?
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Don't think of it as a dead dog. Dogs are mans best friend. Of course you don't want to kick it. Think of it as a dead ex-wife that took everything from you.
Man thats sick.
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lets get rid of this thread please we are just sitting here talking about nothing because we all no that is what this stock is now or what it has always been which sucks because i did have a few shares about 10 million but i no i just got to let it go. sorry folks
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"we all no that is what this stock is now or what it has always been" Knowing this, that it is and was nothing, why would you have bought 10M shares? Did the spinning of improbable to impossible theories have anything to do with you intitalling purchasing 10M shares of CMKX? You recognize now, and anyone with one living brain cell KNOWS it has 0 chance of making anyone money, but you see Mr. legal here still trying to convinve people that it s a viable play and a good company. That is why people need to be here telling others the truth. You had to at least spend $1,000 minimum to own 10M shares, wouldn't have been nice if you someone presented the facts without false premise and far flung theories? Might have saved you some money. Now these blood sucking, money grubbing, deceitful, people are trying to draw the unsuspecting into PART II of this scam. Not only is it right that people offer negative opinions regarding these folks and this company, they have an obligation to do so, whether they own the pos stock or not.
quote:Originally posted by stnkng1: lets get rid of this thread please we are just sitting here talking about nothing because we all no that is what this stock is now or what it has always been which sucks because i did have a few shares about 10 million but i no i just got to let it go. sorry folks
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Maybe Debbi, Noah, Willy, Dr Sterling, Andy and Melvin will be kind enough to give us their address and we can all go over and have a big party. Oh let's not forget Legal I am sure he would welcome us for a party
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the top ten reasons to post on the cmkx thread...
10...entertainment factor 9....hoping for another visit from dr d 8....don't know where UC is so that we can kick his azz. 7...friends made 6...its more fun then the prrm thread 5...its more fun then the qbid thread (except for wallace) 4....reading the cult theories makes 1 gratefull for the brain cells they still have. 3....just like arguing 2....that big basher pay check & the #1 reason....waiting for legal to say "i was scammed!!!!"
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FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 E-Mail jmartin*cmkxownersgroup.com
Greetings Group Members,
Due to Mr. Stoecklein's unavailability and other factors it appears there will be no new 8K at this time from the company regarding the specifics of identifying our shareholders as mentioned in the 8K on Monday of this week. I will try to get you more specific information after speaking with Don when he returns next week. I plan on asking the "Task Force" to take a multi faceted approach to the identification of our shareholders. There are shareholders that bought stock from brokers that do not report through traditional channels. The TA list and the NOBO/OBO list combined does not reveal the total of shares in the market place. All shareholders that have purchased stock from whatever source should benefit from this distribution.
I have been receiving more than the usual calls and emails asking me the question of how one should hold their shares---cert ownership vs. street name shares. I have said in many prior posts and I will say it again, I am not giving anyone advice on whether or not they should own their shares in street name or in cert form. You should talk with your financial advisors and your broker about the benefits and the drawbacks to having certs or street name shares. Common sense will tell you that a certificate of ownership duly signed by the company officers and issued by the lawful transfer agent will be ample proof of ownership to just about anyone under any circumstance. The company will be seeking a list of all shareholders as of a certain record date for the distribution. I am hopeful the company will disclose the record date in short order. I will be speaking with Mr. Stoecklein about the next meeting of the "Task Force" early next week so I can get this information to you. I do not believe those who own shares in street name (i.e. cede and company through your brokers) will be able to verify ownership by simply showing their brokerage statements to the company. Being a member of the distribution "Task Force", I should be able to answer that question for you shortly. Only the company can tell you what method it is going to use to determine ownership. When I am told of that method, Mr. Stoecklein, Mr. Maheu and I will come up with a plan to distribute the stock to the rightful shareholders. I think it will be quite interesting to work with Don and Mr Maheu to arrive at an accurate shareholder list. Now that you have seen the difficulties in gathering such information from a group this large, you know this will be no short, quick and easy task.
You can expect problems from your brokers in the event you ask for certs. We have seen three responses from three brokers and they are all different. I would like to examine these written responses as they may be important in the future. If you receive a written explanation from your broker which explains why they will not provide you with certs, I would love to have a copy. You can send it to jmartin*cmkxownersgroup.com .
I am getting numerous calls inquiring about the O/S. The company issued a press release early in 2005 stating that the official outstanding stock of the company was 703 Billion shares. This was based on the TA records. Some shareholders have stated there is expected to be a new O/S. If there is a new one, it will be new to me. I have never heard any mention from Don Stoecklein, Urban or Bob Maheu that the O/S is anything but what has been released by prior press releases. As always I can only say, I hope this rumor is true for all the shareholders benefit. I will be leading the dancing in the streets if there is some significant change in this number. I simply have no knowledge of any smaller O/S. There was no discussion of a new O/S at the Board Meeting last week.
I am again being asked about true evaluation of the company. There have been no financials filed by this company since 2002. I think I am safe in assuming there will be no financials filed in the future, so I do not know what the evaluation of the company's assets are. Some say that Entourage is going to release the evaluation tomorrow. I hope so. You should have that information. You should have had that information a long time ago. Having that information might help you in your decision to buy, hold or sell. I can tell you there was not one word of discussion during the board meeting last week about evaluation of the company's assets. I hope the evaluation is "to da moon" as I used to read on the boards, but I am simply out of the loop where this information is being discussed.
Many people are again asking about the naked short issue. What is the true naked short? I do not know what the true naked short position is because the brokers have failed to respond to my requests for short positions from them. I have sent out at least 10 certified letters on behalf of you as shareholders to the 10 largest brokerage houses. I have not received the courtesy of a reply from one single brokerage house. I have sued the SEC to get the fails to deliver information but have not been successful in obtaining that info from the SEC. We have examined 11 or 12 thousand shareholder statements and have totaled over 400 billion shares. We know there are nearly 60 thousand shareholders according to the NOBO/OBO list. This would suggest to me quite a few more shares in the market place than the admitted 703 billion shares. One shareholder just called my office and was very insulting to my legal assistant demanding to know what the naked short position was and stated that I knew what it was but I was not telling because I had been bought out by the market makers. Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease. Then another shareholder called and demanded to know evaluation. When Goldie said we do not have that information, she was told by some jerk that I knew it, but since I had been bought out by the company, I was not benefitting the shareholders one bit...Right...What possible reason would I have for not sharing that information with you, if I had it? We have to keep our sense of humor around here, because this goes on daily. I don't like it one bit to have to listen to such abuse, but I realize these kinds of remarks come from a very small number of individuals. I feel fortunate to have such a large group of shareholders that have a reasonable amount of common business sense and understand what is going on.
I invite your input on the plan for identifying all the shareholders of CMKX. I have learned there are some really smart people in this group. Any thoughts will be passed along to the "Task Force".
Onward,
Bill
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lol, #1 will be a sight to see but I bet it won't happen. But is a good reason.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: the top ten reasons to post on the cmkx thread...
10...entertainment factor 9....hoping for another visit from dr d 8....don't know where UC is so that we can kick his azz. 7...friends made 6...its more fun then the prrm thread 5...its more fun then the qbid thread (except for wallace) 4....reading the cult theories makes 1 gratefull for the brain cells they still have. 3....just like arguing 2....that big basher pay check & the #1 reason....waiting for legal to say "i was scammed!!!!"
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legal...you never answered my question about your claims drilling was on going & you had ppl telling you it was. we just got proof it hasn't been going on for some time now or the claims would not be in default. i guess you either made it up or you have ppl lying to you. funny, everything us merry band of bashers has said has either been proven true or is about to be true yet those 7 guys in Sask. have reliable info but we don't.
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"& the #1 reason....waiting for legal to say "i was scammed!!!!"
.......and do you think that rockhead will ever admit to that? He has had plenty of chances in the past year, but chose to take his denial to new levels of asininity each time the oportunity for the truth and admission of bad judgement presented itself to him. There isn't any type pumper worse than the likes of legal, (noah), and debbie. They never had an original thought between them. They read that pigslop dreamt up by Willy, Jadobe, Dr D, Sterling, and others, and are charged with promulgating these twisted falsehoods as promises of riches. They happily spread those lies and try to convince people to this very day that revoked, 8K declared finished stock is a "play of a lifetime".
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I wasn't trying to embarass you about "messing up". I owned this crap at one time too. My point was that all the ridiculous pumping and theorizing about fantastic unbelievable riches might have influenced you into having wasted a $1,000 on this pos stock. If that kind of hype caused you to lose $1,000 then, why wouldn't you think others might be making the same error in judgement now? These people cannot be allowed to spread their impossible theories and lies unchalleneged.
quote:Originally posted by stnkng1: i did spend a grand hoping it was gonna be something and yes i messed up but now im over it. hopefully moved on to better things.
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if you actually think i'm waiting or believe legal will ever admit he has been scammed your as lost as he is...lol
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