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I know what you mean Rod, been runnin' days and nights for 2 solid weeks for awhile myself....it gets to ya' Get some rest will ya'
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3 funny....2 negative ratings in less than an hour...I think I'm done here....it's obvious the jack**** don't appreciate my posts...GLTA....Done....
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Thanks Leo, but the scumbuckets are on the loose, (due to the inaccurate "rating" system)...I'm done for now....GL..make some grean
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And for all the scumbuckets, get a job!!! And stop being scum, you'll be happy in the end.....Gone.....
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I've completed emails to each of the 19 Deaf gay associations.
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For the deaf gay who watch in CC (close caption) that are unaware of QTN, I will begin to notify them of QTN's programming.
Beginning with 19 associations for the deaf gay that I found on the web, I'll email each one and request to have the following information put in each of thier newsletters. This will add to our efforts in maximizing awareness.
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Hello and thank you for your time, In regards to information, news and entertainment for the GLBT commuinity via cable television, I am respectfully requesting that you add the following information to your membership newsletter and/or through any other means of membership contact.
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The Q Television Network is a national television network dedicated to the needs of the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and even straight communities. They proudly feature unique in-house productions such as Q on the Move, On Q Live, Queer Edge, QTN Worldcast (GLBT world news) and much more. Thier goal is to bring quality lifestyle programming before a nationwide audience. In order to do this, they need your help! Please support the Q Television Network by telling your cable company to carry QTN! Simply fill out the form located at http://www.qtelevision.com/main/iwantqnetwork.asp and they'll forward thier wishes to your local cable provider!
For more information, please visit QTN's website at http://www.qtelevision.com or email website@qtelevision.com. Thank you again for your support! [/QUOTE]
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quote:Originally posted by kybowhunter: I've completed emails to each of the 19 Deaf gay associations.
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For the deaf gay who watch in CC (close caption) that are unaware of QTN, I will begin to notify them of QTN's programming.
Beginning with 19 associations for the deaf gay that I found on the web, I'll email each one and request to have the following information put in each of thier newsletters. This will add to our efforts in maximizing awareness.
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Hello and thank you for your time, In regards to information, news and entertainment for the GLBT commuinity via cable television, I am respectfully requesting that you add the following information to your membership newsletter and/or through any other means of membership contact.
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The Q Television Network is a national television network dedicated to the needs of the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and even straight communities. They proudly feature unique in-house productions such as Q on the Move, On Q Live, Queer Edge, QTN Worldcast (GLBT world news) and much more. Thier goal is to bring quality lifestyle programming before a nationwide audience. In order to do this, they need your help! Please support the Q Television Network by telling your cable company to carry QTN! Simply fill out the form located at http://www.qtelevision.com/main/iwantqnetwork.asp and they'll forward thier wishes to your local cable provider!
For more information, please visit QTN's website at http://www.qtelevision.com or email website@qtelevision.com. Thank you again for your support!
quote:Originally posted by noah129: well folks im all for it i dont think that a 35k investment is a bad idea if one can afford it.i personally plan on buying up to 30k or more if the funds continue to be available to invest in this. i am a proud qbidiot but i am also suspicous of someone asking a crowd of people who all obviously have an agenda what to do with my 35k hehehe. maybe im reading way too far into this guys honest question of "should i dump 35k into qbid?" but maybe im not hehe.so anyways looks like another week of consolidation and a few ups and downs.i personally never daytrade any stock that im down on for fear it may run and ill be left behind.so im basically long strong and hoping to add a few shares soon.im patient and still have faith that one day good ol frankie will do us all right one day.
things im looking for: become fully reporting, buyback much more stock, a pr stating that time warner is adding ten more states that carry the q, and quite a bit more.
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dont worry about the ratings they mean nothing.
i could care less about them. I look at what the posters have to say and that is how i rate people.
there are people on here with very low ratings but mean more to me then some that have a high ratings.
what a bunch of childish people do with handing out 1 stars means nothing. People that contribute to the thread will be valued for thier input not thier decorations of stars.
Your alright in my books Marty
Rod
quote:Originally posted by Marty: 3 funny....2 negative ratings in less than an hour...I think I'm done here....it's obvious the jack**** don't appreciate my posts...GLTA....Done....
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Marty your postings, among only a handful of others on this thread, have value to me as a rookie.
And I'm sure I speak for the others who are not quite as experienced.
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Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Weather is beautiful here in the Derby City. Got the grandbaby this weekend. She's a little firecracker. We'll be 4wheeling and bbQ'n. Have fun all.
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Looks like everyone is out and about for the weekend festivities. I am in and about and I feel like the frickn world is coming to my house today.
A small intimate gathering planned in April (cancelled), turned into a medium size party for 4th of July (also cancelled) has now turned into a 50-100 person event... at my house today.
Anyone want to come help make salsa?
I am going to need Monday off just to sleep!
Everyone have a nice weekend and good luck and best wishes to any and all that are effected in our south. I am a displaced Texan of 25 years and spent many a weekend on the Gulf and I grew up seeing the Galveston devastation films for many years in school. I only wish there was more I could directly do right now.
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Hi everyone: I don’t normally have time to post or even to read everything posted here, so I apologize ahead of time if my post is out of touch or if I don’t always respond to something someone says to me.
Concerning the number of outstanding shares: We won’t really know for sure what the OS count is until the audit is released, but it seems like quite a few folks think that the number of outstanding shares is probably higher than the 14 Billion figure stated in the August 29th news release. I would like to submit to you my reasoning that shows why I feel that the 14 billion OS figure is probably correct and to go further and explain why I think the float is a mere 1.08 Billion.
First, here are some definitions I have used to support my thinking and their sources: From Investopedia: Restricted and Float "restricted shares refer to a company's issued stock that cannot be bought or sold without special permission by the SEC. Often, this type of stock is given to insiders as part of their salaries or as additional benefits. Another term that you may encounter is 'float'. This refers to a company's shares that are freely bought and sold without restrictions in the public."
Also from Investopedia: Outstanding Shares "This number represents all the shares that can be bought and sold by the public as well as all the restricted shares that require special permission before being transacted."
From Fidelity: Outstanding Shares "The number of shares that have been issued by the company which are held by the insiders and the general investing public."
From Wikipedia: Preferred Shares "A preferred stock, also known as a preferred share or simply a preferred, is a share of stock carrying additional rights above and beyond those conferred by common stock." Among other things, Wikipedia goes on to explain that some of the rights may include "superior voting rights," or "special voting rights to approve certain extraordinary events (such as the issuance of new shares or the approval of the acquisition of the company) or to elect directors," and that "many preferred shares provide no voting rights."
Now for my point: The PR released on August 2, 2005 said that "Frank Olsen, President, CEO and majority shareholder, has converted all his personal QBID holdings into preferred stock, which makes up 53 % of the total shares" and "We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares." I think the key word here is tradable (not outstanding) and they are saying that they have made changes so that Frank's 53% can no longer be traded, but I think the definitions above will support the fact that Frank’s shares have always been and still are part of the outstanding shares. They called them preferred shares in the PR, but I think they are also a form of restricted shares in that they are not presently tradable.
The way I understand the term, OS includes all shares that have been issued, and have not been returned to the treasury. We have been told that OS = 14B, so take away Frank's 53% (7.42B) and the other 5.5B restricted shares and we have a float of 1.08 Billion.
That sounds good doesn't it? But suppose they really should have said that that there were 14B + 5.5B = 19.5 Billion OS. Then Frank's part would be 53% of 19.5 = 10.335 Billion. Subtract the 5.5B restricted and 10.335B of Frank's shares from 19.5B and we have a float of 3.665 Billion.
I think the first scenario is true for two reasons: 1) Because I would hope that their poor choice of words in that August 29 PR when describing the outstanding shares was just that: a poor choice of words, and that they actually do understand the definition of outstanding shares (that it includes restricted shares) and 2) Because the August 29 PR said that "Q Television's current value is two hundred million dollars, or ten times the market capitalization that the market has put on our trading stock" and at that time the PPS was .0014; if they think that the PPS should be ten times .0014 or .014 and there are 14 billion OS, then the market cap would be 196M. If the PPS were .014 and the OS were 19.5B, the market cap would be $273M. $196M is a lot closer to $200M than $273M is.
Of course, this is only my opinion and may not be correct, so please keep that in mind when making your investment decisions.
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Sam very nicely laid out and i am thinking along the same line as you.
i feel there is a float of 3.6 billion according to my calculations.
you have done a great job at explaining how you come about these numbers. this is what i have had trouble doing, putting my thoughts on paper to explain how i have come up with it. You seem to be thinking along the same h lines that i am. This is only my understanding and my opinion but i feel you are right on the money.
Thank you for the time that you spent to compose this message, I will refer to this post often when trying to help people in the future.
Thank you thank you thank you
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Sam very nicely laid out and i am thinking along the same line as you.
i feel there is a float of 3.6 billion according to my calculations.
you have done a great job at explaining how you come about these numbers. this is what i have had trouble doing, putting my thoughts on paper to explain how i have come up with it. You seem to be thinking along the same h lines that i am. This is only my understanding and my opinion but i feel you are right on the money.
Thank you for the time that you spent to compose this message, I will refer to this post often when trying to help people in the future.
Thank you thank you thank you
Rod
I have come up with the same number, but was bashed to h@ll for it.. lol glad I am not the only one that see's these numbers..
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Q Television's current value is two hundred million dollars, or ten times the market capitalization that the market has put on our trading stock, Triangle Multi-Media, the trading security for Q Television Network (a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media). Q Television's assets outweigh the total market value by seven times our stock price, and industry executives know this. We have been offered a low eight-figure deal for our company, and we refused. Our financial team is confident that Q Television will be worth one billion dollars in twenty-four months. Q Television has signed some of the largest cable carriers in the country, secured total broadcasting rights to the Gay Games VII, and owns and operates a multi-million dollar studio in California, to name a few of our accomplishments. The equity markets will not keep us at these levels for very long. We know that the outstanding share count has increased with some restricted stock coming due and selective purchases, but this stock was strictly used for tangible assets and was done in the best interest of the company. We will update the markets upon full completion of the audit,'' said Olsen.
BUSINESS AND FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS
Q Television Media City -- The studio that Q Television recently purchased has contracts in place for nine months worth one million dollars. The studio has pending agreements for 2006 of one million dollars. It also has eight hundred thousand dollars of secured rollover and two hundred thousand dollars in new contracts.
Revenue -- Q Television's current revenue is three hundred thirty thousand dollars per month and it expects twenty-four million dollars in revenue for fiscal year 2006. This number is based on existing contracts with advertisers, conservative subscriber increases based upon the regions available, and finally, commitments from partnerships (i.e. Gay Games, etc.).
Sponsors / Advertising -- Q Television has projected revenue of seven million dollars in confirmed sponsorship and/or advertising in the next twelve months.
Syndication -- Q Television has created one thousand hours of original programming available for syndication, bringing in one hundred fifty thousand dollars in 2006. Q Television will continue to syndicate new programming at a rate of two hundred hours per month.
Shares Outstanding -- Triangle Multi Media (TMM), ticker: QBID (Q Television being a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media) shares outstanding total fourteen billion and five and one-half billion shares restricted. The time constraints placed on the restricted stock is for three to five years. The share increase in 2004 was due to acquisitions, previously restricted shares coming due, and was prior to secured financing. The shares bargained in 2004 were strictly utilized for growing Q Television. TMM has no future intention of raising its outstanding share count and/or authorized share count. TMM will also buy back stock when liquidity is available.
Carriage -- Q Television has secured agreements with forty-five percent of the large cable carriers in the United States. Q Television has commitments from specific carriers ensuring availability into sixteen million homes by December 2005.
Subscribers -- Q Television's subscriber base is currently twenty-two thousand, and its expected subscriber growth rate going forward is twenty-five percent per month.
Gay Games VII -- Q Television has secured total broadcasting rights to the first-ever televised Gay Games in the United States. The five million dollars invested (through purchase rights and advertising) expects a three-fold return totaling fifteen million dollars (through advertising, syndication and broadcast rights). More information can be seen at http://www.gaygames.com
Debt -- Q Television's current outstanding debt is two million dollars. This minimal debt should be satisfied by Q2, 2006. Q Television expects profitability in eleven months.
Film Library -- Q Television has acquired over 4,000 films generating two hundred thousand dollars per year. Similar libraries of this size have recently sold for eight billion dollars. Many films will be proprietary property of Q Television, and the remainder will be leased to other networks.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Thank you for the time that you spent to compose this message, I will refer to this post often when trying to help people in the future.
Thank you thank you thank you
Rod
Thank you Rod. It did take me quite a while to compose that post and I appreciate your response.
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Excellent thoughts Sam. I do see one problem with the first scenerio however.
You presented the scenerio very analytically. What wouldn't be explained then is how bugzie's forum members have totalled for over 1 billion shares.
I won't take the number for fact since many people could sell/buy more or simply inflate their numbers to make it seem as if there are more shares out there.
I will say that I do not doubt many people hold millions upon millions of shares. I'm talking 20 million or more. So think about how many people have major positions in Q, how many more lurkers there may be in QBID, etc, etc. 1 billion shares just seems like a very low float to be possible right now.
The second scenerio does seem plausible to me however. We can hope. Matt
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I am not familiar with Bugzie's forum share count. Are they reporting their numbers in a blind fashion, as in a poll? Or are "known" members posting a number on a public forum with Bugzie providing a total?
If it is the second method, I would have more doubts as to accuracy. People would always round up, include the # of shares they HOPE to have by next week and just top the number belonging to a rival poster.
basically they are stating that on that forum alone they own over a billion shares collectively, i have had my doubts about that since the second i read the post.
but you know you are completely right.
there are posters that never owned any shares but stated they had multiple millions of shares.
you cant take a poll on a billboard of people you dont even know and get an exact number or even a reasonably close number.
even my profile is not up to date.
i have more then 2.95 million shares now
i have 20 billion lol
you get the idea
Rod
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if the o/s is 14 billion than i own .014 % of this company, and When its value hits $1,000,000,000.00 that caculates out to $140,000.00 US curency
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A little bit more than 7 cents for that wealth.
But about the bugzie forum idea. The results may be off, as I'm sure they are, but there is still some truth to those numbers.
Even if all the people that posted share numbers had actually doubled their share count is it still possible for that one board to own half of the float? Meaning do they own 500 million shares and half of the float if it is 1 billion?
I imagine there are many more times the number of people on bugzies forum invested in QBID. A 1 billion float seems too small too me. Matt
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and so do i but i do believe in the 3.6 billion float number
Richard states that the average investor only holds i believe it was a couple hundred thousand shares.
if you take the 3.6 and devide it by 5900 investors which is a number i have heard that is roughly 610,000 shares. 3 times what the average investor is stated as having.
so now you have many many peole that own over a million and these are the ones that we see in the forum. they are the ones that have more money invested and willing to do some research to make them feel better about holding thier shares. the average investor has bought and doesnt have a lot of money in this and dont want too loose thier money but its not worth it for them to read every message on a board
now if the average of 5900 people hold a couple thousand shares then a much smaller number of investors is holding 2/3s of the shares.
a small number holding over 100 million shares that Richard stated and the rest being held by people holding 1-5 million shares so with my numbers the 2/3s is about 2.4 billion shares
so really when it gets down to it these numbers seem very reasonable.
play with the numbers and you will see what i mean.
lets now take a billion shares and say they are held by people holding 100 -200 million shares.
this makes 5 - 10 people Richard said a hand full so lets call it 5
that still leaves 1.66 billion for multiple million share holders.
that will give you 55 people holding 3 million shares.
that doesnt seem all that crazy a number
Rod
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