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quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
[Roll Eyes] Ok enough nit-picking, the PR was one of the best I have seen since I bought into QBID, last year.
My average is .0089, and I am not concerned about the pps and how much Im down.
I know I have a winner here and I have the most important thing to go along with it... PATIENCE...
So you guys that are sitting at a average of .0016-.0019, SELL, and F**K OFF and leave the postings to real investors. [Eek!] Did I swear??

Anyways back to QBID, Looks like Verizon was interested in todays PRs, I wonder why the Verizon name keeps poping up with Q Televison [Wink] [Wink]

http://broadbandbeat.verizon.net/tv/

A lot of companies are adding related news, including competitors, on their sites. I guess Verizon has cast a pretty big net. Maybe they're setting up for the evolution of the cell phone (i.e streaming and comercial sponsorship.

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g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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quote:
Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
QBID IS DUMPING SHARES ON THE MARKET. OVER 1-BILLION TRADED TODAY. YESTERDAY 250+ MILLION SHARE ORDER WENT THROUGH. WAY TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR INVESTORS.

MAKE SURE TO KEEP UP ON THOSE NAKED SHORTS.

U4,

Are you still here bashing QBID? LMAO!!!

How long has it been now? 2-3 years?

Come on, entertain us! I've been bored.

Go QBID!!!
Hi Whiz!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

Hey don't hate the player hate the game baby.. twinkle twinkle....


Hey if you are for qbid then I am cool with you. Sometimes g-invest brings up good points. Other times he talks out of his a$$. Biopolar if you ask me..

Either way we are all looking to make some fat doe pretty soon.

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That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort [Big Grin] but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.



[ August 29, 2005, 21:22: Message edited by: buckwheatbob ]

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quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort [Big Grin] but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.


Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

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Well then I guess you must be accusing all of us because some info comes from that site and if you recall I have quoted that site. Seeing as you have quoted me as a liar, prove Mattís site as false info seeing as that is a place that is respected. Seeing as you have an answer for everything, prove Matt wrong. I merely passed on info. If that is what you call being a liar, I suggest you get some help. Funny, I figured it would only be a matter of time before you returned to your old ways. I guess old habits never die, do they?

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort [Big Grin] but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.


Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.



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quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort [Big Grin] but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.


Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

Another "Great" post.
Good to see honest people coming on that are willing to look at both sides of the different opinions without a mess of stupid insults.

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Founder and CEO Frank Olsen to speak at University of California, Riverside, Leadership Exploration and Development Series on 1 June 2005. http://www.studentlife.ucr.edu/involvement/lead.html


"Presenter: Frank Olsen, President/CEO of Q Television Network
Location: Terrace Room A (University Commons)
About the Presenter: Frank Olsen is President/CEO of Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc.. Mr. Olsen has been in the broadcasting industry for over 35 years and has helped shape minority programming. He created Q Television Network to provide quality programming for and about the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender communities around the world. Mr. Olsen previously launched the first radio station focused on African Americans and their culture in Seattle. He entered the television arena with a four-hour home shopping program which was the forerunner of the current home shopping channels. He was president of The Hospitality Movie Channel which he sold that business to Showtime/Viacom. In addition to his broadcasting ventures, Mr. Olsen has also worked in the LGBT communities, starting 17 clubs centered on LGBT entertainment. His wealth of experience in broadcasting and business, combined with his creativity, has helped him bring Q Television Network to a national audience and create the premiere LGBT television network of his dreams."

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An excellent post which is also posted on Matts site but I think Stashu is more interested in causing problems than he is in the info, but thank you for posting this.

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Founder and CEO Frank Olsen to speak at University of California, Riverside, Leadership Exploration and Development Series on 1 June 2005. http://www.studentlife.ucr.edu/involvement/lead.html


"Presenter: Frank Olsen, President/CEO of Q Television Network
Location: Terrace Room A (University Commons)
About the Presenter: Frank Olsen is President/CEO of Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc.. Mr. Olsen has been in the broadcasting industry for over 35 years and has helped shape minority programming. He created Q Television Network to provide quality programming for and about the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender communities around the world. Mr. Olsen previously launched the first radio station focused on African Americans and their culture in Seattle. He entered the television arena with a four-hour home shopping program which was the forerunner of the current home shopping channels. He was president of The Hospitality Movie Channel which he sold that business to Showtime/Viacom. In addition to his broadcasting ventures, Mr. Olsen has also worked in the LGBT communities, starting 17 clubs centered on LGBT entertainment. His wealth of experience in broadcasting and business, combined with his creativity, has helped him bring Q Television Network to a national audience and create the premiere LGBT television network of his dreams."



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I have sat here all evening going thru post after post after post. Today when the PR came out, some major butterflies started in the pit of my stomach. I thought...OMG, this is what we have all been waiting for. Soon those butterflies left and a burning sensation started taking over (had to get the Tums bottle out, AGAIN!!) My 'warhoops' died down quickly! Someone pissed in my cheerios!! When QBID goes to the moon, I have realized there is still going to be the naysayers, the knitpickers, the whiners...cos there is no way to satisfy them. Nothing, Notta, Zilch. But I Be Smiling!!! [Big Grin]
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hey all how are my qbidian freinds doing?

just wanted to give a shout out to u all and say that im still here im very long and the reason i havent said howdy is my computer died hehehe.good excuse to buy a laptop finally.anyway i wish i put the money into more qbid shares as i see we hit a low of .0012 the other day.did anyone get filled at that price or just at .0013?

so much happening now with qtv that im getting nervous as i have a fairly sizable position and im nervous that oh my this might be worth a fortune sooner than i expected.

just a side note please if this really does payoff im not telling anyone what to do with their money but just be careful conscious and generous .it is very dangerous coming into large amounts of money sometimes.i had a freind commit ........... right before he was to inherit alot of money.sorry to be a downer i just know that if this pays off some folks are gonna be sitting on alot more cash than they ever imagined.

13 million on lockdown.thinking i want more but not a whole lotta funds right now hehehehe. the charts are screaming for a run but thats the beauty of charts they dont always follow through.imagine the panic that would set in if we gapped down to .0009.i dont hope this for us as i think it would take out alot of investors that want to be long but for me if this ever happend that is when i would really pile in.buy when its hated sell when everyone loves it.

just some humble thoughts from your qbidiot. i think we may have another qbidiot around we shall see . qbidiot2 where are you?

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BWBob, i have just shot off an email to UCR where the reference to Frank selling a cable station came from. i asked them to send me the info on how and where they got that info.
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
An excellent post which is also posted on Matts site but I think Stashu is more interested in causing problems than he is in the info, but thank you for posting this.




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Here's an ooooold pr.
Q has grown a lot in a year and a half.
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May 26, 2004 06:00 AM US Eastern Timezone

Move Over Fab 5: Q Television Has Arrived; New Gay Family Television Network Showcases its Unique Perspective Prior to Public Launch

NEW ORLEANS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 26, 2004--Q Television Network (Pink Sheets: QBID), headquartered in California, announces the launch of a subscriber channel for the gay and lesbian community in July 2004. An industry soft launch for carriers and advertisers begins June 1, 2004.


"It has taken more than seven years and millions of dollars to arrive at this day," says president and chairman Frank Olsen. "Clearly, the time to launch this network is now, and I am confident that the gay and lesbian community will embrace the unique perspective we offer as a family channel."

In a pre-public move to preview a sample of its programming to cable and satellite industry professionals, as well as potential advertisers, Q Television Network will offer a compressed daily broadcast that includes featured programs. The sample highlights Q Television's availability for carriage and sponsorship.

As executive vice president Steven Grunberg notes, "This is built by and for the gay community. Rather than a smattering of stereotyped gay characters offered because current market projections indicate it would be profitable, we offer a channel that will unite the gay and lesbian audience through a network that educates, entertains and informs - a network of real value."

Beginning June 1, the network will be available for viewing on Intelsat America's 7, 129 degrees West, Channel 1.

Olsen, an entrepreneur with a significant background in broadcast, was instrumental in the launch of The Movie Channel prior to its acquisition by Showtime. A pioneer in the development of new radio broadcast formats throughout his 40-year career, Olsen helped create African American radio and started the first gay radio stations.

"Just as CNN had tremendous hurdles to overcome, Frank and Q Television Network have had an uphill battle in the launch of Q Television," observes CFO Rene Schenk. "Q Television is positioned to successfully meet the demand that exists for a gay family channel."

Original and Acquired Programming

With a system of production crews throughout the United States, Q Television Network will offer a combination of original and acquired programming, which includes sports, fashion, travel, health & fitness, talk shows, plays, documentaries and movies. Teams of producers and directors will also bring breaking stories of interest to the network's audience via access to bureaus in Washington, D.C., New York, London, Paris, Moscow, Jerusalem and Iraq.

A preview of original programming premiered in May at the National Cable & Telecommunication Association's annual industry conference and was also included in a successful five-hour sample broadcast on May 15, which aired on Cox Cable in Louisiana and Comcast in the Puget Sound Region.

Included in that preview was "I Will, I Do, We Did," an original Q Television documentary exploring gay and lesbian marriage in America that offers an inside glimpse of the challenges faced by this community. Independent films, such as "An Intimate Friendship" and the award-winning "Straightman," are other examples of what will be available on the network, as well as commercial fare such as Bette Midler's "Divine Madness" concert.

About Q Television Network

This television network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Safe Harbor Statement

As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

For more information regarding carriage and advertising opportunities, contact the network at 760-323-4455.

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Thank you very much.

quote:
Originally posted by Wangdo:
BWBob, i have just shot off an email to UCR where the reference to Frank selling a cable station came from. i asked them to send me the info on how and where they got that info.
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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
An excellent post which is also posted on Matts site but I think Stashu is more interested in causing problems than he is in the info, but thank you for posting this.





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As a final for tonight,this too is a post that I am bringing forward.Now that we have more solid direction from Frank in todays PR,htese possibilities are more within reach than ever before.This was from a poster on another board:

I just got back from dinner with some fellow QBID investors. The topic of QBID's future pps popped up...and from our discussion...this is what we came up with...keep in mind that three of the other investors are very conservative engineers...You should have seen the table clothe when we were done...chicken scratch everywhere...lol

1 Year PPS projection

20-30 Million Gays and Lesbians in the US (that are out of the closet...this is a very conservative stat)

3% ROI (marketing effort)= 900,000 subscribers by year 1

900,000 x $9.95 = $8,955,000 x 50% (industry standard...cable companies cut) = $4,477,500/mo or $53,730,000/year

Advertisment/Founding Sponsor program...20 spots at $250,000 per advertiser or $5,000,000/year

Industry average is $2,500.00 per commercial x 8-10 commercials per hour or $20,000 per hour x 8760 hours per year (24/7 programming) = $175,200,000/year

Total Revenue

$53,730,000 (subscription per year based on 900K subscribers by year 1)
$5,000,000 (Founding Sponsor program based on 20 spots)
$175,200,000 (Commercials based on Industry standards of $2500 per commercial/8-10 per hour...24/7 programming)

Total Revenue by year 1

$233,930,000/year

Expenses (assuming 40%)

$93,572,000

Net Operating Income

$140,358,000

Per-share earnings

$140,358,000 / 4.5 Billion (assuming 9 Billion OS...after buyback of 50%) = .0311 earnings per share

assuming a very conservative (S&P) PE ratio of 18 and 20...

P/E of 18 = .56 pps
P/E of 20 = .62 pps

However...QBID is a very speculative stock...and could possibly have a P/E ratio of 30, 40 or 50...

P/E of 30 = .93 pps (our pick by year 1)
P/E of 40 = $1.24 pps
P/E of 50 = $1.55 pps

We agreed that a PE ratio of 30 was very conservative for such a speculative stock...if QBID's soft launch goes off without a hitch...and they PR a major advertiser within one week of the soft launch...our views of QBID being a short term hold will change...we would consider holding a position long term (1-3 years)

.93 x 4.5 Billion = $4.185 Billion Market cap...

At this stage of the game the market cap is the value that the world of stock market investors has placed on the company (at least for today) Much of this perceived value is due to the expectations of a company's future prospects. Market cap is not dictated by how "big" a company is.

Here are some related links on advertising and calculating PE ratios...

http://www.cheap-tv-spots.com/airtime.html
(scroll down to "How much should I spend on air time?)


http://invest-faq.com/articles/analy-pe-ratio.html#

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quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort [Big Grin] but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.


Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

stashu is this something in the line of what your looking for? I hope so because i'm really getting tired of you asking for "proof" when uyou don't prove anything yourself. It's always you say this you say that but and never give proof, but expect everyone else to prove!!
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Sorry forgot to hit paste.

Presenter: Frank Olsen, President/CEO of Q Television Network
Location: Terrace Room A (University Commons)
About the Presenter: Frank Olsen is President/CEO of Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc.. Mr. Olsen has been in the broadcasting industry for over 35 years and has helped shape minority programming. He created Q Television Network to provide quality programming for and about the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender communities around the world. Mr. Olsen previously launched the first radio station focused on African Americans and their culture in Seattle. He entered the television arena with a four-hour home shopping program which was the forerunner of the current home shopping channels. He was president of The Hospitality Movie Channel which he sold that business to Showtime/Viacom. In addition to his broadcasting ventures, Mr. Olsen has also worked in the LGBT communities, starting 17 clubs centered on LGBT entertainment. His wealth of experience in broadcasting and business, combined with his creativity, has helped him bring Q Television Network to a national audience and create the premiere LGBT television network of his dreams.

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quote:
Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


omg I am crying I am laughing so hard! lol

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I'm hoping that one of you will be able to clarify something for me. I'm still a little confused about the O/S count. The PR said that there were around 14 billion shares. Now, some of you are saying there around 19 billion shares? Which one is it? If it is 19 billion, where did you get this number from? TIA!
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quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
So if we're pretty sure Frank will sell, what's the possible bottom line?

This is what I see,,,

Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.

Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.

Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!

What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute....

WOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!

Looks like I was wrong. A little less than 20 billion shares & only worth a billion bucks in 24 months,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

This is $h!t worse than I ever imagined! It's like a bad dream. The naysayers were right all this time & I didn't even listen. I'm crushed!

You hear me CRUUSHED!

For every $1,500.00 I spend to buy a million shares of QBID I'll only see a book value of $50,000.00 in two years.

Yep I'm ready to cry.

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quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
This link should help for those looking for definations for the O/S issue.

14 billion -5.5 billion-Franks 53% = approx 4 billion float

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/outstandingshares.asp

I think you guys are trying to make this share count look a lot better then it really is. We can argue the actual outstanding (14B vs 19.5B) but you CAN'T take Franks 53% out of the outstanding. Those are preferred shares. The 14/19.5B are common shares. They are two totally diffent classes of stock. It's like having a bushal of apples and trying to take 53% of the oranges from it. It just doesn't work. Look at any financial statement for any company that has preferred shares and you'll see the counts kept seperate. Isn't the news about financials, subscribers, etc. good enough without having to make an already decent O/S count even better?
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What does outstanding shares mean?

Stock currently held by investors, including restricted shares owned by the company's officers and insiders as well as those held by the public.

19.5B total including Frank's 53%, right?

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Some are including the 5.5 billion restricted shares in with the fourteen billion outstanding shares, (for 14 billion total), and others are adding them to it (for 19.5 billion total). The PR is vague on this. You could even interpret it as stating that there are fourteen billion and five outstanding shares (and or with) one-half billion restricted.

(For what it's worth, I think there's 14 billion TOTAL.)

From the PR...

Shares Outstanding -- Triangle Multi Media (TMM), ticker: QBID (Q Television being a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media) shares outstanding total fourteen billion and five and one-half billion shares restricted. The time constraints placed on the restricted stock is for three to five years. The share increase in 2004 was due to acquisitions, previously restricted shares coming due, and was prior to secured financing. The shares bargained in 2004 were strictly utilized for growing Q Television. TMM has no future intention of raising its outstanding share count and/or authorized share count. TMM will also buy back stock when liquidity is available.
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/news.html?d=84709


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Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars:
I'm hoping that one of you will be able to clarify something for me. I'm still a little confused about the O/S count. The PR said that there were around 14 billion shares. Now, some of you are saying there around 19 billion shares? Which one is it? If it is 19 billion, where did you get this number from? TIA!



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FROM INVESTORSHUB:

First , The problem is in the sentence used in the pr for the share count.
o/s is 14b and 5.25b restricted.

NOTE : The restricted share is ALWAYS in the o/s.

In addition, from the pr :

(( Q Televisionís current value is two hundred million dollars, or ten times the market capitalization that the market has put on our trading stock ))

If you do some calcul, 10x the market cap now is .014
And if you divise 200m by 19.5b = .010
And if you divise 200m by 14b = .014
This number is exactly ten times the current share price at this time (.0014).

Conclusion....o/s total is probably 14b with restricted shares...

-- supergarvis --

Hopefully that answers your questions. 14 billion total O/S including...

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It sure is bad news, Whiz. We may only get to be filthy rich. Not obscenely rich. [Big Grin] LOL

quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
This is $h!t worse than I ever imagined! It's like a bad dream. The naysayers were right all this time & I didn't even listen. I'm crushed!

You hear me CRUUSHED!

For every $1,500.00 I spend to buy a million shares of QBID I'll only see a book value of $50,000.00 in two years.

Yep I'm ready to cry.


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Oh, I like your math better!

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Thanks, Zacktrade.
quote:
Originally posted by Zacktrade:
Hopefully that answers your questions. 14 billion total O/S including...


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quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
As a final for tonight,this too is a post that I am bringing forward.Now that we have more solid direction from Frank in todays PR,htese possibilities are more within reach than ever before.This was from a poster on another board:

I just got back from dinner with some fellow QBID investors. The topic of QBID's future pps popped up...and from our discussion...this is what we came up with...keep in mind that three of the other investors are very conservative engineers...You should have seen the table clothe when we were done...chicken scratch everywhere...lol

1 Year PPS projection

20-30 Million Gays and Lesbians in the US (that are out of the closet...this is a very conservative stat)

3% ROI (marketing effort)= 900,000 subscribers by year 1

900,000 x $9.95 = $8,955,000 x 50% (industry standard...cable companies cut) = $4,477,500/mo or $53,730,000/year

Advertisment/Founding Sponsor program...20 spots at $250,000 per advertiser or $5,000,000/year

Industry average is $2,500.00 per commercial x 8-10 commercials per hour or $20,000 per hour x 8760 hours per year (24/7 programming) = $175,200,000/year

Total Revenue

$53,730,000 (subscription per year based on 900K subscribers by year 1)
$5,000,000 (Founding Sponsor program based on 20 spots)
$175,200,000 (Commercials based on Industry standards of $2500 per commercial/8-10 per hour...24/7 programming)

Total Revenue by year 1

$233,930,000/year

Expenses (assuming 40%)

$93,572,000

Net Operating Income

$140,358,000

Per-share earnings

$140,358,000 / 4.5 Billion (assuming 9 Billion OS...after buyback of 50%) = .0311 earnings per share

assuming a very conservative (S&P) PE ratio of 18 and 20...

P/E of 18 = .56 pps
P/E of 20 = .62 pps

However...QBID is a very speculative stock...and could possibly have a P/E ratio of 30, 40 or 50...

P/E of 30 = .93 pps (our pick by year 1)
P/E of 40 = $1.24 pps
P/E of 50 = $1.55 pps

We agreed that a PE ratio of 30 was very conservative for such a speculative stock...if QBID's soft launch goes off without a hitch...and they PR a major advertiser within one week of the soft launch...our views of QBID being a short term hold will change...we would consider holding a position long term (1-3 years)

.93 x 4.5 Billion = $4.185 Billion Market cap...

At this stage of the game the market cap is the value that the world of stock market investors has placed on the company (at least for today) Much of this perceived value is due to the expectations of a company's future prospects. Market cap is not dictated by how "big" a company is.

Here are some related links on advertising and calculating PE ratios...

http://www.cheap-tv-spots.com/airtime.html
(scroll down to "How much should I spend on air time?)


http://invest-faq.com/articles/analy-pe-ratio.html#


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Wonder what this will do to the bottom line a year from now?........


"Debt -- Q Television's current outstanding debt is two million dollars. This minimal debt should be satisfied by Q2, 2006. Q Television expects profitability in eleven months."

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"Subscribers -- Q Televisionís subscriber base is currently twenty-two thousand, and its expected subscriber growth rate going forward is twenty-five percent per month."

Even if we under acheive we're looking at over a quarter million subscribers. Kind of puts my projection of a modest 100,000 subscribers to shame doesn't it.

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another new id for you Jonas?

that is 4 now isnt it?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Inv.:
a question for those who are already a long time investing in stocks, does the PPS of a company really goes to the fair value? (just wondering)



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Already touched on, but worth repeating:
O/S:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/outstandingshares.asp
Float:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/float.asp
A/S:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/authorizedstock.asp
Restricted:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/restrictedstock.asp

And oh yea, dilution:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dilution.asp

GLTA

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