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Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Ok enough nit-picking, the PR was one of the best I have seen since I bought into QBID, last year.
My average is .0089, and I am not concerned about the pps and how much Im down.
I know I have a winner here and I have the most important thing to go along with it... PATIENCE...
So you guys that are sitting at a average of .0016-.0019, SELL, and F**K OFF and leave the postings to real investors. Did I swear??

Anyways back to QBID, Looks like Verizon was interested in todays PRs, I wonder why the Verizon name keeps poping up with Q Televison

http://broadbandbeat.verizon.net/tv/

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Posts: 350 | From: Portland, Oregon | Registered: Jan 2005  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
QBID IS DUMPING SHARES ON THE MARKET. OVER 1-BILLION TRADED TODAY. YESTERDAY 250+ MILLION SHARE ORDER WENT THROUGH. WAY TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR INVESTORS.

MAKE SURE TO KEEP UP ON THOSE NAKED SHORTS.

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Posts: 597 | From: KY | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Posts: 1313 | From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged | 

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That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Posts: 792 | From: Bradford, Ont. | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Originally posted by stashu:

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

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Posts: 792 | From: Bradford, Ont. | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by stashu:

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

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Originally posted by Ruh916:
Founder and CEO Frank Olsen to speak at University of California, Riverside, Leadership Exploration and Development Series on 1 June 2005. http://www.studentlife.ucr.edu/involvement/lead.html


"Presenter: Frank Olsen, President/CEO of Q Television Network
Location: Terrace Room A (University Commons)
About the Presenter: Frank Olsen is President/CEO of Q Television Network, a subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc.. Mr. Olsen has been in the broadcasting industry for over 35 years and has helped shape minority programming. He created Q Television Network to provide quality programming for and about the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender communities around the world. Mr. Olsen previously launched the first radio station focused on African Americans and their culture in Seattle. He entered the television arena with a four-hour home shopping program which was the forerunner of the current home shopping channels. He was president of The Hospitality Movie Channel which he sold that business to Showtime/Viacom. In addition to his broadcasting ventures, Mr. Olsen has also worked in the LGBT communities, starting 17 clubs centered on LGBT entertainment. His wealth of experience in broadcasting and business, combined with his creativity, has helped him bring Q Television Network to a national audience and create the premiere LGBT television network of his dreams."

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Posts: 792 | From: Bradford, Ont. | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
An excellent post which is also posted on Matts site but I think Stashu is more interested in causing problems than he is in the info, but thank you for posting this.

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Originally posted by Wangdo:
BWBob, i have just shot off an email to UCR where the reference to Frank selling a cable station came from. i asked them to send me the info on how and where they got that info.

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
An excellent post which is also posted on Matts site but I think Stashu is more interested in causing problems than he is in the info, but thank you for posting this.

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
That's funny, Matts site does not say I lied. I will however give you a c+ for the effort but an F for completion of proof.

However, if G is one of your buddies,you know the old saying,"birds of a feather flock together"

quote:

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Matt's site does nothing but quote someone else without facts to back it up! I'm not accusing Matt of lying, I'm accusing you!

Name the network he started right here on THIS thread and let people put it in any search engine they want. They'll come up with nothing and you know it.

Give us the name of the network right here_____________.

We're waiting.

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Originally posted by stashu:
g-invest, your input is always welcome on my computer screen.


All I know is,

Doctoall in the past has called people idiots and gone so far as to insult their Mothers,

Penny Trader has called people morons and insulted them in all kinds of ways also,

Buckwheat Bob has out and out lied stating that Frank had started up and sold other TV networks,

and pennnies thinks it's funny to make "retarded" jokes.


I think most of us see through that crap take seriously the concerns you bring up, and I don't need to hide behind a private message to say it.

Thanks for your posts, g-invest.

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Originally posted by whizknock:
So if we're pretty sure Frank will sell, what's the possible bottom line?

This is what I see,,,

Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.

Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.

Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!

What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute....

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
This link should help for those looking for definations for the O/S issue.

14 billion -5.5 billion-Franks 53% = approx 4 billion float

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/outstandingshares.asp

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I think you guys are trying to make this share count look a lot better then it really is. We can argue the actual outstanding (14B vs 19.5B) but you CAN'T take Franks 53% out of the outstanding. Those are preferred shares. The 14/19.5B are common shares. They are two totally diffent classes of stock. It's like having a bushal of apples and trying to take 53% of the oranges from it. It just doesn't work. Look at any financial statement for any company that has preferred shares and you'll see the counts kept seperate. Isn't the news about financials, subscribers, etc. good enough without having to make an already decent O/S count even better?

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Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars:
I'm hoping that one of you will be able to clarify something for me. I'm still a little confused about the O/S count. The PR said that there were around 14 billion shares. Now, some of you are saying there around 19 billion shares? Which one is it? If it is 19 billion, where did you get this number from? TIA!

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Posts: 3243 | From: California | Registered: Jul 2005  |  IP: Logged | 

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It sure is bad news, Whiz. We may only get to be filthy rich. Not obscenely rich. LOL

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Originally posted by whizknock:
This is $h!t worse than I ever imagined! It's like a bad dream. The naysayers were right all this time & I didn't even listen. I'm crushed!

You hear me CRUUSHED!

For every $1,500.00 I spend to buy a million shares of QBID I'll only see a book value of $50,000.00 in two years.

Yep I'm ready to cry.

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Hopefully that answers your questions. 14 billion total O/S including...

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Posts: 3243 | From: California | Registered: Jul 2005  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
As a final for tonight,this too is a post that I am bringing forward.Now that we have more solid direction from Frank in todays PR,htese possibilities are more within reach than ever before.This was from a poster on another board:

I just got back from dinner with some fellow QBID investors. The topic of QBID's future pps popped up...and from our discussion...this is what we came up with...keep in mind that three of the other investors are very conservative engineers...You should have seen the table clothe when we were done...chicken scratch everywhere...lol

1 Year PPS projection

20-30 Million Gays and Lesbians in the US (that are out of the closet...this is a very conservative stat)

3% ROI (marketing effort)= 900,000 subscribers by year 1

900,000 x $9.95 = $8,955,000 x 50% (industry standard...cable companies cut) = $4,477,500/mo or $53,730,000/year

Advertisment/Founding Sponsor program...20 spots at $250,000 per advertiser or $5,000,000/year

Industry average is $2,500.00 per commercial x 8-10 commercials per hour or $20,000 per hour x 8760 hours per year (24/7 programming) = $175,200,000/year

Total Revenue

$53,730,000 (subscription per year based on 900K subscribers by year 1)
$5,000,000 (Founding Sponsor program based on 20 spots)
$175,200,000 (Commercials based on Industry standards of $2500 per commercial/8-10 per hour...24/7 programming)

Total Revenue by year 1

$233,930,000/year

Expenses (assuming 40%)

$93,572,000

Net Operating Income

$140,358,000

Per-share earnings

$140,358,000 / 4.5 Billion (assuming 9 Billion OS...after buyback of 50%) = .0311 earnings per share

assuming a very conservative (S&P) PE ratio of 18 and 20...

P/E of 18 = .56 pps
P/E of 20 = .62 pps

However...QBID is a very speculative stock...and could possibly have a P/E ratio of 30, 40 or 50...

P/E of 30 = .93 pps (our pick by year 1)
P/E of 40 = $1.24 pps
P/E of 50 = $1.55 pps

We agreed that a PE ratio of 30 was very conservative for such a speculative stock...if QBID's soft launch goes off without a hitch...and they PR a major advertiser within one week of the soft launch...our views of QBID being a short term hold will change...we would consider holding a position long term (1-3 years)

.93 x 4.5 Billion = $4.185 Billion Market cap...

At this stage of the game the market cap is the value that the world of stock market investors has placed on the company (at least for today) Much of this perceived value is due to the expectations of a company's future prospects. Market cap is not dictated by how "big" a company is.

Here are some related links on advertising and calculating PE ratios...

http://www.cheap-tv-spots.com/airtime.html
(scroll down to "How much should I spend on air time?)


http://invest-faq.com/articles/analy-pe-ratio.html#

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Posts: 3243 | From: California | Registered: Jul 2005  |  IP: Logged | 

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Originally posted by Jonas Inv.:
a question for those who are already a long time investing in stocks, does the PPS of a company really goes to the fair value? (just wondering)

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