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The game here is to buy low and sell high...State...You sold...what are you still doing here? Are you now waiting to buy high again and sell low for another loss?? You should have learned on the last loss...Why not move on and take Stockhunter with you...He's not a shareholder either...
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Well ...state...No I didn't miss your post...I didn't know we had a PLNI alumni asssociation...
I guess I'm saying put your and stockhunters money where your mouth is...otherwise why not sit on the sideline where your pocketbook is...
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How high do you think they want the PPS going into the conference!!!! This time they want to do it up right.....Feb 23rd!
January 17, 2006 - We are proud to announce Plasticon International (OTC:PLNI) will be making a special presention during breakfast of the Arch February 23, 2006 Conference.
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Murn....I'm putting my 2 cents in and think the target is AT LEAST the .02 that we never broke!!!
From there they should be able to hype the hel7 out of it to .10 like they did HISC!! At .10 I'm going to re-do my driveway with new rebar supports AND seal it with a SEMCO kiss!!
GLTA and lets go
quote:Originally posted by Murnak: How high do you think they want the PPS going into the conference!!!! This time they want to do it up right.....Feb 23rd!
January 17, 2006 - We are proud to announce Plasticon International (OTC:PLNI) will be making a special presention during breakfast of the Arch February 23, 2006 Conference.
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Well ...state...No I didn't miss your post...I didn't know we had a PLNI alumni asssociation...
I guess I'm saying put your and stockhunters money where your mouth is...otherwise why not sit on the sideline where your pocketbook is...
Last time I checked we still had free speech in this country and everyone still had the right to voice their opinion. I for one appreciate the mature way they have presented thiers.
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If you still feel strongly about plni now would be a good buy back in time. Down 20% now buy and when we get back to .0108 good for a quick 35% gain. That is if you still feel it is headed beyond .01 again.
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Hi guys and gals I am still here not as strong as I was but none the less still have a position. I know that this sounds silly for a pink but there are a certain amount I keep and forget about and plni is one of thoes stocks. You may look at it a year from now and say wow. Just could not take the day to day fighting on this thread anymore but I am with you guys in spirt. GLTA
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It's like putting my money down at a black jack table in Vegas...and...having State, Stockhunter and Grynder looking over my shoulder telling me what the blackjack games all about while holding tight to their own money...but not playing...
I'm hoping the pit boss comes and sends them to the slots with all the old ladies...
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SEMCO Manufacturing has offices in the U.S., Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Australia.
Today, PLNI's products are used in all 50 states and territories, every province of Canada, throughout the Caribbean and Latin American, in Europe, the Middle East and in Asia.
Its only going to get bigger and better!!!
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Stockhunter has a lot of valid questions. First, let me say that PLNI is one of the more interesting stocks on the penny market, and I am PRO-PLNI for the most part. That being said, I, too, would like some of the questions answered BY THE COMPANY. Not by news articles and advertizements, but by the company itself. 1. What is the holdup on filing with the SEC on the Promold and Semco acquisitions? 2. Why has it taken 2 years to come up with an audit? 3. When will we get some kind of financial report on the health of the company? 4. When will a statement be made confirming the share structure?
If the company wants to be transparent and get new buyers, IMO it behooves them to come forth with this information NOW !!!!! Until these and other pertinent questions are answered, it is stupid to put more money into it. Buying a pig in a poke with no concrete info can get you into deep doo-doo in a hurry. Come on, PLNI, show us the goods. We are waiting with our checkbooks open. Your turn to speak to these issues. We've waited long enough, and there is no reason why this info hasnt been put out. GO PLNI, DO IT RIGHT !!!!
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Ed... I disagree in this sense...Stock and State had "Opinions" not "Questions"....They gave unsubstantiated input based on a lack of information...they only knew what they knew and gave it their own twist...They are certainly not in any loop that is in the know...No one wanted to share information with them..There was a reason for that...
If you don't own a position in a company and continually criticize ...then what is the agenda? Now Stock, State and Grynder all don't own PLNI shares and have no intention of getting back in IMO...So what's the agenda? This smells paid basher to me...Here to shake out the weak hands for the MM's to pick up cheap shares...
I just got more shares at .0082 today after swinging at a higher level this morning...Do you consider that swing stupid because you don't have all the information you require? There are reasons why all that information is not out...but...some folks put a negatiove spin on those reasons and it seems others have bought into that theory...This stock was at .004-.006 not too long ago...That was certainly a time to consider buying...was it then stupid to buy? Come on this is pennies...
PLNI has more potential than 99% of the other penny stocks...The only decision here is to buy, sell or hold...or in Stock and States case...watch from the sidelines and criticize......not an investment option IMO...So if folks are here to make money they may want to look for other advisors...IMO
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Bearclaw, we have different methods. I bought PLNI and several other companies after extensive DD, for the purpose of holding for a large gain over a period of time. I do not day trade or swing trade or whatever you call it. I am looking for the day PLNI makes the big board and trades over $1.00. Then I will sell. Toward that end, I would like the company to respond to the questions asked. In other words, I'm not happy with $40 this Tuesday and $80 next Friday. I'm banking on PLNI and my other stocks to get me 6 or 7 figures in a couple years. I do agree that bashing is a worthless pasttime, especially if you dont own the stock in question. But I still want transparency in any company I invest in, and timely information when things are not going as I wish. Selfish?? Yep, but then again it IS my money, and I am a stockholder. To me that means my questions get answered. I dont mind negative answers, that's what the sell button is for. GLTA in PLNI. Let's GO !!!!!!
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I will never entirely understand Bear's dismissive label of "opinions" for the facts that make this a riverboat gamble. It's a fact that no one can find pending filings for anything on Semco, or Promold. It's fact that the 5 billion a/s is still unexplained. It's a fact that we still don't have an audit. Other strange facts include the fact that Chopper reports a happy explanation for a Semco acquisition awaiting SEC approval, but those reasons--which if, as reported, would surely rocket the price--have never been included in a PR.
These facts do not necessarily mean everything about PLNI is dark and evil--they are just what they are, facts that must be weighed in the balance. There are elements on the positive side of the ledger including the fact that PLNI actually makes something, and so does SEMCO and Promold. I just disagree with the attitude of some that suggests there is something uniquely horrible about stating the negative facts. That's how analysis is done.
I guess what troubles me about Plasticon, and prompted me to sell where I did (at a level where I lost money but still maintained enough capital, after the recent rise to continue functioning as a trader, by the way) is that the strongest positives either cannot be independently verified or are based on subjective judgments, like trusting Jim Turek to deliver in a meaningful timeframe. And that's fine, I don't begrudge anyone making that case. But I don't entirely comprehend people who have a more positive view who feel the need to insult others who expess different conclusions.
Anyway, a tip of the hat to Grynder and others, and I'm not going anywhere. Have a great weekend, and may you all make money.
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Ed... The different method is great...We all have our approach..."Whatever I call it" is swingtading for shares...It's a method that works well for me...This is where I'm at with your four questions and concerns...
The Semco and Promold issues have been answered...They are both concluded waiting for the SEC to formally sign off...The SEC is involved...The company has been up front in letting us know SEC approval is needed/wanted and coming in the near future. I don't think the time line is in PLNI's control..I'm waiting also...so is everyone else...I think it is tied to the application to move to the BB...
I don't know why the audit has taken 2 years but do feel that is very close...I also think they are tied in with the SEC and the Semco/Promold deals...
The company financials will come out with the SEC approval and submission to the BB ...That too is near IMO
I have stated several times that I believe a share buyback has been happening and believe that will be released when it is completed...It may be completed now...This is all IMO based on information that I have...so...take it for the offering...but...these opinions are the basis for my investment and my DD has been extensive since March 2005...
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State... I've dismissed you as a basher...Wether you did it intentionally or were just unhappy it didn't matter...Your constant negatives were just as effective as a paid basher...
I also don't think you ever knew how to make money on this stock...There are a bunch of folks that have added to their positions and made very good profits...You were too busy looking for the reasons not to trust Turek and everyone connected with him...
I also think you and Stockhunter saw this investment as a glass half empty and I have never understood why you got in this in the first place...Never understood why you put all the time and effort and never looked into how to turn a profit...This is pennies not the NYSE...So you were easy to dismiss...
This is a life changing investment...IMO...A company that will be solid for many many years to come...Oh...and has a solid management team...I think you got this all wrong...and convinced others to follow your lead...
If you continue to come here with nothing invested...then it's an unreasonable resentment or bashing...take your pick...I'm in this stock for a long time, have worked my butt off and don't need your resentments to Turek or your bashing...whichever one it is but they both are the same to me...
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Bear, you spend too much time analyzing me. It's a little strange. In any case I'm not going anywhere.
Have you ever said to yourself, "You know, I often accuse State of bashing Plasticon and having resentments and and so on, but he has never, not once, accused me of being a paid pumper or trying to sucker anyone into pouring more money into this. Hmmmm. Maybe he thinks I believe what I say--and maybe I should respect him for the same and start treating him as a brother."
Now you wouldn't have to say that in exactly those words, but something close would be terrific.
Some people appear to believe the Promold and Semco issues are answered. I do not, because no one can point to independently verifiable facts to back up their claims. Why is that important? Because of PLNI's track record with verbal communications. For example, Rodney told me that Promold was pending because it had been a public company once. Another credible poster on another board said Rodney acknowledged he really didn't know why either Promold or Semco were pending, and would ping Bill Howe for an explanation. This is the PLNI experience; anybody who has dealt with the company long-term knows this. Another example was witnessed by some of us at RB; PLNI booster rrm reported for weeks after the secret 5 billion a/s filing that Howe had assured him the float and the outstanding had not increased one iota. Then we learned of the new early December o/s, 2.3 billion, and float, 690 million. RRM to his credit acknowledged feeling a bit burned and sent an testy email to Howe.
I know I cannot sway Bear on this point, but I want to make it clear I'm not skeptical of PLNI for some random reason. It's the track record.
If there is a good reason for the "pending" status of Semco and Promold, PLNI should state so in an official PR. The fact that they haven't suggests two things to me: They are incompetent, being unable to recognize the pps value such credible information would provide; or the manner in which they are acquiring these companies is dilutive or worrisome for some other reason. Anyway that's my judgment. It could be wrong.
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State... No you can't sway me and neither can Stockhunter...I don't act like a paid pumper but you and Stockhunter both bash PLNI and Turek...because things are yet unexplained only means they are unexplained...and certainly unexplained to you two...Your reasons for being here and not invvested is a good reason to ask your agenda...Why would you two even bother putting in all this time? If it's not to slam PLNI then what is it?
I clearly tell folks I swing trade this stock...and have since early spring to accumulate shares...I have told them it's a good swing trade stock and if they're interested to look into Swingtrading...If that's pumping then have at it...I don't treat people like a brother who bash my hard earned investment...
You have nothing invested...Your judgement has no value if your not risking anything...It's just BS...Don't you get that? I'm not alalyzing you...I'm saying bashers are dangerous to folks investments and you two act like bashers... smart, polite bashers...Get it?
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I get a kick out of all of you.... It doesnt matter if you are a pumper or a basher. It doesnt even matter what you are perceived to be. What DOES matter is that you dont take ANYONE's advice on a stock. Do your DD, study the company, find your own facts. THEN invest if you feel comfortable doing it. As much as you want, any way you want. And then take everything that is said on boards with 10-15 grains of salt. Wish you all luck no matter what your agenda may be. Let's all make money.
P.S. I wont blame any of you if PLNI goes south. By the same token, you aint getting any of the money if I get rich.....ROFL
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Thanks Ed... Great points...I forget that sometimes when folks go after this company...It pizzes me off more than it probably should...and...your right I have done my own DD and do trust this investment in the way that I want to trade...thanks for reminding me...Oh....and...
You can't have my money either...but if we do get rich I'll buy you a few beers or whatever when we all meet up...Take care and thanks again
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Ed,,,Bear,,,I'm with ya! For what my 2 cents are worth here is how I see things. 1. I do take note of Stocks, States, and others points. They do make some sense and they are wanting answers RIGHT THIS SECOND,,,but we can't always have our answers when we want them.
2. I have been in this stock since 6/04.....a very long time. As some know I rode this all the way to .0199 and back down never selling one share. (didn't want to risk my position) Not saying it's the smartest way but it is my way. I see PLNI as Bear does...it is my retirement stock. Although we see through a cloudy glass..maybe I'm just too nieve (spelling?) I feel the Promold and Semco deals are done. MY REASON??? If PLNI was releasing false information about Semco(or about purchasing it) in their PR's then Semco would be all over them like stink on sh*#$. That ALONE tells me that the deal is either done or so close you can smell it. I don't see PLNI releasing PR's about buying Microsoft because they are not and they would be in deep trouble. This is what I focus on and this is why I'm not so worried about every little detail. This isn't all just made up hog wash. I'm not saying PLNI is revealing everything like they should but guess what...I don't sign their paychecks. I wish everyone would stop all the bickering on the board. PLNI is a very solid pink. I have 1 mill. shares at a cost of 3800 bucks. I'm not planning to sell til at least .10 for 100K. This is my outlook for the company and this is my plan. Good luck to all in here and whether you're in or out is a decision that everyone has to make on their on. But as I say...they are not fabricating all this or they would be in some very Hot Water. By the way....my glass is ALWAYS half full and at that point...pass another Bud Light please cause I don't want to see the bottom. I will toast to PLNI.
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I have been watching this stock the last few days and it has been looking like accumulation is happening. anyone think this could get to the next level
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Ah well, one cannot reason with unreason. I will continue to focus on PLNI, Bear will continue to focus on people who focus on PLNI. Others can judge which is wise.
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State... You sold for a loss...just move on to another stock...Folks who are shareholders here will continue to follow our investment...good luck with yours...
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Hello ladies and gentelmen Im new to this board but have read your posts for last few weeks and found most of them interesting and informing.the one thing that i find kind of interesting is that some say they sold for a lose and seem a little upset about it.when to buy or sell is on me and me only.some one on ihub said they just sold for a lose next day got back in and ended up with 25000 more shares.I say congrats.But buy reading his posts if it would'nt have turned out that way he would'nt have blamed me you or plasticon.And that i can respect-with the way thing are going now WOW.
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