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the quiet before the storm
folks thier is a storm coming
and its called qbid the terrible
when this little terror comes a roaring
all who laughed will clearly see, while all who
cashed will smile with much joy.
my only fear continues to remain will i get scared and sell too early.its nice to lock in profits dont get me wrong but the difference between selling for .004 and lets say .06 cents is huge. i continue to buy with the members on this board restoring my faith over and over again that this is a real company going places and will one day be a multi billion dollar company.im on my way with a mission to accumulate 20 million shares.i will publicly state that i have never ever ever put so much $$$ into one stock especially a micro-penny stock.i think that im either going insane or that i am taking a leap of faith that will either sting quite badly or make me a very wealth young man.until further notice im doing my part to eat up this float i feel that qbid should remain in strong hands and hold this as long as we can until frank builds this into a company that the big corporations will want to buy.

12.5 million on lockdown.

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Well Noah...I think when the audit comes out this week (hehe) we should make a new thread and call it:

qbid the terrible

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quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Please do not buy or sell on anything I write!

Having said that,,,,

Consider this!

The bad news first!

Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.

Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.

Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!

What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute.

Now for the good news!

Lets say the audit shows 10 billion shares outstanding (which I still believe is a high estimate) & everything else I said still holds up. First thing I can tell you, if that's the case, frank will not be letting this go for three billion. But say he does. Now we're looking at a FLAT VALUE OF THIRTYTRHEE CENTS A SHARE!

I'm not done!

The reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID. Moving to another exchange will be a fringe benefit that will make the product shine a little more.

Remember the PR about reducing its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050802/25508.html?.v=1

"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market," said Olsen. "Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock. Q Television will continue to be as aggressive as possible, and do everything necessary to ensure our shareholders are treated fairly."
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This isn't about manipulation! Frank doesn't give a $h!t about MMs. Well maybe a little bit but this was about polishing the product.

Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!

Personally I like Frank having complete control. Let's just pretend that that Frank, you know, the same Frank that has already sold a profitable media enterprise to Sumner Redstone. Lets just pretend he really wants this thing to be sold & actually kept the share count at or around 4 billion outstanding or less & lets pretend we're even close to actually reporting a profit by the end of the second quarter.

He will sell! He will sell while he has the attention of major players! And it will not be for three billion dollars! Now you're looking at a bare minimum of 5 billion dollars Maybe as much as 7 billion. If QBID actually showing a profit & we're getting international attention in 40 countries you could even make an argument for,,,,use your imagination!!!!

The hell with it! I'll stay with 5 billion dollars. Factor in Frank's 53% controlling interest which has now been reduced to a handfull of super voting shares & we're starting to see the big picture.

FIVE BILLION DOLLARS & FOUR BILLION SHARES!

This will not come as a huge surprise to me because Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.

I've said it many times. I will not begin to liquidate my core position until I see $1.25 a share!

From my very humble vantage point,,,

"All we ever had to do is launch!"

Best post I have ever read on allstocks! Hey I am happy with .06 a share.. lol and that is worse case!
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pennies whiz is a great person ! whiz actually went through the contemplation it ;takes to think this out all the way.best of luck to you all. i got another mil today at .0018. like ive said in the past i like when my faith is tested i get in for cheaper prices.the lowest i ever bought qbid was .0014 i would love to see those prices again hehehe.next time ill stock up big time.

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I have a question you all remeber this one yes? Q Television is taking aggressive steps to stop any inappropriate selling of QBID. The network wants to uncover any unrecorded shareholders and disclose all market makers. Q will look into where the market makers are getting their stock, and will, to the best of its ability, start an investigation to flush out any inappropriate sales, thus ensuring that every share is purchased and paid for before it is resold on the market.



“Once the internal investigation is over we will be able to give our shareholders an accurate final share count of QBID. We will be able to determine how many legal shares exist in the market place, and any inappropriate trading will be dealt with by the regulatory agencies. We will do our best to uncover any manipulation of the stock, and we ask that all our loyal shareholders come to us with any questions or concerns about this manipulation. We have set up an email address for all your questions at shareholderprotection@qtelevision.com,” Olsen continued.

Well I did send them an email with a question that I had, but they never respond to me, did anyone of you guys tried it to? My question was this: I ve there were indeed nakes short sellings, so that means that there more shares outstanding then realy existed in the first place, ... then some of us now could be having those shares that were sold naked?... what are they gonna do about that? are they gonna take them away of some of us and say that were never existing shares? But they never respond to my question....

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By: jerangsad
15 Aug 2005, 06:58 AM EDT
Msg. 976705 of 976710
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Good read, Longs, and dead shorts,Time Warner corporate officers are trying to negotiate a nationwide agreement with the type of network product Q Television Network offers, said Kathi Jacobs, director of government and community relations for Time Warner. The company is considering three different products in the same network genre; Q Television Network is one of them. She said a decision in expected "sometime in the future."

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what has this got to do with Qbid?

Comcast, the country's biggest cable provider, has struck a deal to carry MTV's Logo, the new cable channel geared to gays and lesbians. For a while, it looked like Comcast would be MIA when Logo launched last week but -- over the next three months -- the cable company will add the channel to its systems. Don't expect to find Logo on expanded basic. Instead, the channel will be part of Comcast's digital-plus tier.
As might be expected from a startup, the early Logo lineup is a bit hit-and-miss. But there are some goodies to look out for: repeats of the terrific "Wonderfalls'' (right), which disappeared after only a few episodes on Fox; a heavy dose of such comedians as Graham Norton and Margaret Cho; gay-themed films such as "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert''; campy movies ("Showgirls''); specials that include Melissa Etheridge performing live from Hollywood's Kodak Theatre later this month; and freshly-produced series on travel and music.

Expect a few rough bumps along the way. But given the money behind Logo, MTV's usually-keen sense of programming (well, we'll get to Live 8 in a minute) and the involvement of some first-rate talent, Logo should get up to speed faster than most new cable channels.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
what has this got to do with Qbid?

Comcast, the country's biggest cable provider, has struck a deal to carry MTV's Logo, the new cable channel geared to gays and lesbians. For a while, it looked like Comcast would be MIA when Logo launched last week but -- over the next three months -- the cable company will add the channel to its systems. Don't expect to find Logo on expanded basic. Instead, the channel will be part of Comcast's digital-plus tier.
As might be expected from a startup, the early Logo lineup is a bit hit-and-miss. But there are some goodies to look out for: repeats of the terrific "Wonderfalls'' (right), which disappeared after only a few episodes on Fox; a heavy dose of such comedians as Graham Norton and Margaret Cho; gay-themed films such as "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert''; campy movies ("Showgirls''); specials that include Melissa Etheridge performing live from Hollywood's Kodak Theatre later this month; and freshly-produced series on travel and music.

Expect a few rough bumps along the way. But given the money behind Logo, MTV's usually-keen sense of programming (well, we'll get to Live 8 in a minute) and the involvement of some first-rate talent, Logo should get up to speed faster than most new cable channels.

Any positive strides for LOGO is a plus for us in mainstream cable operator acceptance and eventually carrier deals.

If ESPN had fallen on its face there would be no ESPN2... and so on and so on.

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What a slow day, still could get some news [Big Grin]

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Audit news could be tomorrow.

1. Frankie loves Tuesday PR's
2. He said mid-august for completed audit

We can hope.

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I certainly appreciate your posts, whizknock! [Cool]

quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Please do not buy or sell on anything I write!

Having said that,,,,

Consider this!

The bad news first!

Lets take a look at what some would see as worst case scenario. Lets say we see a published audit with 20 or even 25 billion shares out there. I for one am almost sure that's a very high guess. But for the sake of argument lets say it's 25 billion.

Buy next year the games get coverage, we don't even show a profit yet but revenues will have spiked from the games & a modest 100,000 subscriptions which will be growing at a respectable pace. If that holds up QBID will have already surpassed the value of BET when it was sold. Say Frank lets this thing go at 3 billion dollars.

Three billion dollars makes 25 billion shares worth .12 a share!

What if the audit is really bad, 50 billion shares? You're still looking at SIX CENTS A SHARE! I can't speak for anyone else here but if I'm getting paid SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS for every two grand I plunk down today I won't cry for any more than a minute.

Now for the good news!

Lets say the audit shows 10 billion shares outstanding (which I still believe is a high estimate) & everything else I said still holds up. First thing I can tell you, if that's the case, frank will not be letting this go for three billion. But say he does. Now we're looking at a FLAT VALUE OF THIRTYTRHEE CENTS A SHARE!

I'm not done!

The reason Frank is having a professional audit done is to provide suitors with a clean bill of health for QBID. Moving to another exchange will be a fringe benefit that will make the product shine a little more.

Remember the PR about reducing its Tradable Stock by Fifty-Three Percent?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050802/25508.html?.v=1

"We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market," said Olsen. "Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock. Q Television will continue to be as aggressive as possible, and do everything necessary to ensure our shareholders are treated fairly."
.....................................................................

This isn't about manipulation! Frank doesn't give a $h!t about MMs. Well maybe a little bit but this was about polishing the product.

Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!

Personally I like Frank having complete control. Let's just pretend that that Frank, you know, the same Frank that has already sold a profitable media enterprise to Sumner Redstone. Lets just pretend he really wants this thing to be sold & actually kept the share count at or around 4 billion outstanding or less & lets pretend we're even close to actually reporting a profit by the end of the second quarter.

He will sell! He will sell while he has the attention of major players! And it will not be for three billion dollars! Now you're looking at a bare minimum of 5 billion dollars Maybe as much as 7 billion. If QBID actually showing a profit & we're getting international attention in 40 countries you could even make an argument for,,,,use your imagination!!!!

The hell with it! I'll stay with 5 billion dollars. Factor in Frank's 53% controlling interest which has now been reduced to a handfull of super voting shares & we're starting to see the big picture.

FIVE BILLION DOLLARS & FOUR BILLION SHARES!

This will not come as a huge surprise to me because Genuine Broadcasting National TV Networks do not trade for less than a dollar a share.

I've said it many times. I will not begin to liquidate my core position until I see $1.25 a share!

From my very humble vantage point,,,

"All we ever had to do is launch!"


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even the uk interests in q.
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Q Television closes studio deal
Monday, August 15 2005, 18:29 BST -- by James Welsh

America's Q Television Network has closed a deal on a revenue generating studio in Burbank, California.

The gay-oriented network plans to move production from Dallas to the new studio, which will be renamed "Q Television Media City." When Q Television is not using it for filming, it will be rented out.

"This turn-key facility, which has been the home of Jeopardy and the Wheel of Fortune, is state of the art and will make our transition out of Dallas quite seamless," said Frank Olsen, president, CEO and founder of the network. "Our Partnership with Firestone has never been stronger, but our growth required us to obtain an independent studio of our own. Media City equips us with all the necessary technology and space to create, produce and shoot all of our original programs. Q Television is now extremely visible to the media universe because of our own studio in close proximity to the most famous studios in the world. We are extremely pleased with this purchase, and the added income that the studio will bring in will reduce our monthly liability by 73 percent."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds23578.html

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Very calm today ... Big storm on the way?
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Hi everyone
I'm still without a computer, maybe Wed or Thurs. I have a GREAT FEEL about the end of the week. Hope all is well with all of my QBID friends. Till later...J

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this I took from an other board: I was hoping LOGO was going to be a No-Go....boy was I wrong. In a few short months they walked into the big boy's offices, on the heals of Q exiting those same offices, and signed massive contracts with the biggest cable players. The poor "closer" at Q has gotten smoked again and again by LOGO and viacom.

LOGO is already available in at least 13 million homes and recently signed a deal with Comcast, the nation’s largest cable provider, which will expand the viewership base.


Anybody some thougts about LOGO? http://www.logoonline.com/

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
this I took from an other board: I was hoping LOGO was going to be a No-Go....boy was I wrong. In a few short months they walked into the big boy's offices, on the heals of Q exiting those same offices, and signed massive contracts with the biggest cable players. The poor "closer" at Q has gotten smoked again and again by LOGO and viacom.

LOGO is already available in at least 13 million homes and recently signed a deal with Comcast, the nation’s largest cable provider, which will expand the viewership base.


Anybody some thougts about LOGO? http://www.logoonline.com/

Yea! I have some thoughts! When veiwers get tired of logo's weak ass programing it will just add to the reasons Sumner is one of the bidders for QBID!
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LOGO is owned by Viacom. They had no chance of not getting launched and getting carrier deals. No national carrier is going to want to tell Viacom no and start a battle with them.

As Frank has implied in the past, and I agree whole heartedly, anything LOGO does moving forward that gets a positive reaction from other groups is good for us in the long run.

I wouldnt make the claim that Q's "closer" got smoked. It is not a fair comparison. Its like the City Council of Houston having to decide between a new Ford dealership or a new KIA dealership for the 1st and Main intersection. The big boy, Ford is going to win, but when the traffic is gathering in extended directions and people are lining up you can bet your bottom dollar that KIA (and the City Council) will find a way to get a like minded product in now that the location and idea has been proven to be worthwhile.

We want LOGO to succeed. We want LOGO to be HUGE!

How many sport networks/channels are there?

How many science networks/channels?

How many movie networks/channels? And within that they each have a dozen or more - HBO, Showtime, TMC, Cinemax, Starz, etc all have a ton of channels each.

How many music networks/channels?

How many Hispanic networks/channels?

Why so many different channels with the same crap? Because the first one succeeded and proved that the idea was not only viable but profitable!! Go LOGO Go!

I have no problem at all to be second fiddle to LOGO, in fact I have no problem at all if they want to buy us and make us LOGO2 right alongside MTV2. I am defintiely one of the ones that expects this to be sold off in a year to someone and I am betting Viacom will be our biggest suitor at that time.

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quote:
Originally posted by whizknock:
Yea! I have some thoughts! When veiwers get tired of logo's weak ass programing it will just add to the reasons Sumner is one of the bidders for QBID!

whiz
Good answer. Much better than the one I was drafting.

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Well now that today is pretty much over. Who has the audit PR coming tomorrow??..?? My money is on friday.


It has to be done is what I am screaming.. lol

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I think it'll be tomorrow.

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I hope the audit'll wait for an other two weeks, that way I'll have some more money bye then to buy some more shares of Qbid [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Ligge:
LOGO is owned by Viacom. They had no chance of not getting launched and getting carrier deals.

Ligge
Another great answer. Thanks to you both for replying to Jonas' post. I can only add one thing:

Jonas, relax and enjoy the ride. Frank's plan is coming together, and Q will soon be generating income . . . and we will be smiling. But there are still many people trying to keep the PPS down so they can get more shares. The person you quoted is either one of those, or stupid, or both. So be careful what you believe.

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My moneys on the end of the month for the audit results.
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dang some big buys at close...
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Bottomliner, I'm relaxed [Smile] but sometimes I go also on other boards to see what they say about Qbid

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0.0018 close. Soon, we'll look back on days like this and laugh. [Cool]
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Remember, VIACOM gave one existing channel up (VH1 MegaHits) to get LOGO on.

quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
this I took from an other board: I was hoping LOGO was going to be a No-Go....boy was I wrong. In a few short months they walked into the big boy's offices, on the heals of Q exiting those same offices, and signed massive contracts with the biggest cable players. The poor "closer" at Q has gotten smoked again and again by LOGO and viacom.

LOGO is already available in at least 13 million homes and recently signed a deal with Comcast, the nation’s largest cable provider, which will expand the viewership base.


Anybody some thougts about LOGO? http://www.logoonline.com/



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I don't mind if they keep the PPS low until the audit, that gives me also the time to buy some more shares and I think I'm not the only one here that wants to buy more

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
I don't mind if they keep the PPS low until the audit, that gives me also the time to buy some more shares and I think I'm not the only one here that wants to buy more

I have all the shares I want. I am ready for a big uptrend to some new highs. I have been buying for two years now. lol It is time to get a big run in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Oil.Man:
Hmmm looks like G-invest is the typical jump on the stock at the wrong time and dump at a loss. He lost a bundle by buying the stock on an upswing, then it dipped and he had to change his pants as he dumped the stock at a HUGE loss. So rather than holding and buying down his average PPS he did the ole "Rookie Dump". Soory about your very very bad trading skills "G", but SHUT UP! I do not care that you lost so much money you have to take your girl to the .99 menu at Wendy's. And if you do not tell her it is a CZ she will never know until her finger turns green!

I'd take this personally if I had any clue who you were. Suffice to say, I have never sold at a loss as I averaged down and then sold on that last run. I still have some position left that I'd like to see run, but the way things are looking...

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1/ Frank should not be your focal point, the Knight Trading Group and other Morning Mark, should beshould.

2/ Dilution is not the problem from Frank, Knight Trading Group and many other MM companies have been naked shorting this stock along with many others. Do some DD.

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5/ I would suggest you do some DD on the Knight Trading Group and other Morning Mark,’s and you maybe surprised at what you find. You may also want to check the SEC page. You may find something there.

6/ Just as a hint, Knight Trading Group has already been investigated a couple of times and charges finally lay where they belong.

They short. I don't doubt it. But they aren't supposed to hold a short position past a day or two. Don't you think the SEC would be tearing them apart if they were? Note: I'm well aware of legal battles Knight has had to fight, but they aren't over the naked shorting issue, and I have done my DD.

What you are essentially saying is "Look over here. There are some cows, so the bulls must be locked up." I guess what it comes down to is which you find more likely, that the pinks are full of diluting scammers or that the MMs are made up of shorting scammers. I personally find the former to be the more likely of the two, and suspect Frank is diluting.

No reputable source has ever acknowledged that naked shorting on the Pink Sheets is commonplace. It happens, but it gets hushed and nothing ever comes of it.

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3/ With all the DD done of your own and everyone else’s, along with the PR's, there is absolutely nothing to support your theory or statements.

4/ You have openly admitted to several people and posts on this board, you have nothing to back up your theory or statements. I have asked several times for this info and you also have dodged the question with lack of proof and wanted to make some nonsense deals to see if I would back off.

My proof is the falling PPS the day of and new 52-week low for the PPS two days after the Maine PR. If hitting a new 52-week low after a huge PR like that isn't proof enough for you, I'm sorry. But it is still my proof.

Unlike you, I'm willing to let the forum readers decide if it is good enough evidence or not. *YOU* are the one saying I've never even given it.

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7/ Making comments that dilution is going on after this issue has been brought up many times shows one of 2 things, either you’re wanting to be big man on campus or to lazy to find the real reason. I will tell you what it does get you, no respect.
Too lazy to find the real reason? What do you mean? Why the hell would someone buy at .0016 the day of the Maine PR and sell at .0013 two days later?

Frank just converted his stock to preferred stock. Assuming that you buy the dilution theory I have proposed, this is proof positive we are nearing 47% of the authorized share count, a little over 23 billion. That's a market cap of 41.4 million, not unreasonable, and about what you'd expect market makers to value the Q at, even if they were shorting it at the behest of hedgefunds.

I suspect that the only thing we need now to confirm once and for all that Frank is diluting, is for this stock to hit a new 52-week low. At that point, I will immediately buy shares and ride this to the point where I break even again. Like I said, I haven't lost any money on this, because I've been smart about averaging down and making up for what I lost previously.

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Now, as I said before, if you are going to start this nonsense with absolutely no proof and lack of DD on your part, then I am going to ride you like a bad boy in pink pants.
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This will be the last time I point this out nicely as you are also misinforming and misleading people with false and defamatory statements.

I stated my proof, if you don't think it is good enough, state so like you have, but don't get into personal attacks. If my statements were defamatory, I would be in legal trouble for what I say. I'm stating my opinion, and have every right to do so.

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I sent you a private PM once to suggest you speak to Richard to get some answers and your answer was no.
You're right, I'd love to talk to him. It's just too bad he ignores my emails. I'll consider calling him, unfortunately I work the days he's in so it'll have to be near the end of the day or something.

Most of my emails are straight and to the point, which is why he ignores them. Here's an example: "What are the outstanding shares? I'm interested in an estimate to the nearest billion if needs be, but an estimate to the nearest ten million would be nice." Another: "Frank has stated in the past he's not certain what the O/S is, but claims he is buying back 3% of the O/S immediately. Exactly how many shares is he buying back? Thanks.". One last one: "You and Frank have both stated that the financing and loans are guaranteed. That's great, but I can get a guaranteed loan for a car in about 5 minutes, how much is the guaranteed financing for?"

These aren't unreasonable questions, and are questions any investor should be asking. I encourage any of you to ask Richard yourself.

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So the bottom-line boils down to you know everything, and that statement is furthest from the truth.
What? I've stated several times in the past people are free to disagree with me. I state things how I see them. I find it ludicrous someone would attempt to state there is absolutely no dilution going on, but -

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On a last note, I invite you to call Richard and ask the question directly or is the quarter you spend for an answer not worth it?

I see your point and concede it. If I'm willing to invest a few thousand in QBID, the least I can do is spend a quarter on a call. I'll do exactly that sometime this week.

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Now I'm not so naive as to think that there is NO dilution going on. After all, there is nothing illegal about it and there has never been a PR released stating that they "will not dilute as long as present management is in charge" as they have about the reverse split issue.
Thank you. It's not unreasonable to suspect dilution when a stock hits 52-week lows on a regular basis. These last few days have really got me thinking that maybe Frank has slowed or downright stopped what he was. The fact that they bought a studio might help out. Or, we could be hitting new 52-week lows next week. No idea or clue. I do know that the dilution will have to stop when he hits 50 billion, at least for now or until the secretary of state in washington says no more.

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WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL IS WHY YOUR WORRIED ABOUT EXPENSES AND REVENUE. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. WHAT DOES EXPENSES AND REVENUES HAVE TO DO WITH A BUSINESS? NOTHING PLAIN AND SIMPLE, NOTHING. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT ALL THE POSTERS ON ANY MESSAGE BOARD CAUSE THEY ALL AGREE AND I DO TO. GET OVER IT WOULD YA?
I feel a need to comment on this, because while U4 is being sarcastic; he does bring up a good point, buckwheat, 4Art, and a few unreasonable others seem to think: expenses and revenue should have no effect on the PPS. Apparently they feel that QBID funds its expenses by invisible unnamed investors and guaranteed financing (which you can get for any sum of money under 10k with a reasonable credit rating).

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Look at BET they never made a dime and they where sold for 5 billion dollars.
Frank states that in an investor chat. Ironically, they were purchased before their first profitable quarter and were listed on the NYSE.

Yes buckwheat, I do my DD, thank you very much. Hell, I have a picture of Frank from his graduating class (at least I think it is, he had a different name then, won't say what it is, you can do your own DD for that). I'm that good at doing DD. [Smile]

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Frank's not trying to take 53% of three billion dollars. His major concern was absolute control over his company. Frank will be more than happy with a couple hundred million bucks. Again, this was another move not to scare off potential suiters. Hold that thought!
This is a very good point that somewhat throws a kink in the dilution theory. Frank may have lost his potential value by retiring all those shares. Something to consider, anyway.

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I have no problem at all to be second fiddle to LOGO, in fact I have no problem at all if they want to buy us and make us LOGO2 right alongside MTV2.
Actually, we'd be more like "VH1", which is ironically also owned by Viacom. MTV is a show for teenagers while VH1 is for music history buffs. MTV2 is just videos, for the most part. Of these, I think VH1 is the better package, but I do appreciate MTV2. I think that if Viacom owned QBID and it does have the clout to push it, it'd be a great additional channel as part of a package. Kind of like kids start off on MTV and shift to VH1, so too might some gay viewers move from LOGO to QTV. Interesting look on the situation.

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If you were buying for two years you already had a big run of 10000% if you had bought some at 0.0001..or did you missed that one? [Smile]

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large after hours trades looks like the same guy from the last couple of days
Time Price Volume Flow
4:10:59 PM 0.0018 7,500,000 211,780.67
4:10:44 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 198,280.67
4:10:31 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 182,080.67
4:10:03 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 165,880.67
4:09:49 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 149,680.67
4:09:35 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 133,480.67
4:09:21 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 117,280.67

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonas Invest:
If you were buying for two years you already had a big run of 10000% if you had bought some at 0.0001..or did you missed that one? [Smile]

I missed that one.. lol my avg price is .0016@ 25,000,000 shares. Now I do sell some on runs. Never the whole bank though.
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quote:
Originally posted by sweetness34:
large after hours trades looks like the same guy from the last couple of days
Time Price Volume Flow
4:10:59 PM 0.0018 7,500,000 211,780.67
4:10:44 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 198,280.67
4:10:31 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 182,080.67
4:10:03 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 165,880.67
4:09:49 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 149,680.67
4:09:35 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 133,480.67
4:09:21 PM 0.0018 9,000,000 117,280.67

hmmm very interesting... wonder who it is?
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Whoever it is, they don't mind dropping 115k down in the course of a minute.

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