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tango...did you just wake up from a coma????(jokingly said) UC pr'ed the world the o/s is 703 billion in march, maybe febuary. the cult is anyone that thinks UC is honest. exact proof? look at court transcript, pedro's freedom of info documents i.e. master shareholder list. look at frizzys contract for the claims, hard to believe a company $36 million in the hole can keep up with the payments on that contract. $36 million in the hole is from court testamony. see bashers are using CMKX few documents & testamony from ppl cmkx has hired where as the cult uses ideas dreamed up from too much kool-aide.
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* The friendliest person you have ever met. * People think you are wonderful and know you have connections, influence, or financial resources. * They have all the answers. * Hiding a greater "truth" from you until a more "appropriate" time. (Estabrooks, 1999)
The Organization
* A Totalitarian worldview * Exploitation: There is pressure to give money, to spend a great deal of money on special projects. Exploitation can be financial, physical, or psychological. * Alienation * Exclusivity: Secretiveness or vagueness by followers regarding activities and beliefs; recruiting and fund-raising with hidden objectives and without full disclosure; use of "front groups".
The Followers
* Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
* Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
* Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
* Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
* Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
* Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
* Followers believe that outside forces are out to get the gtoup/leader.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Haven't heard from Mr. FrizZELL, lately. Wonder what he's up to these days. Still exchanging love letters with Andy?
He just sent a e-mail today.
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com
Dear Group Members,
Thank you all for your concern over Rita. When Rita made landfall, it took a course about 60 miles to our East. We had an interesting Saturday with some strong winds and a bunch of rain that continued all day long, but relatively speaking we escaped any serious consequences. I wish our friends and relatives on the coast had fared as well. Keep them in your prayers.
There seems to be a lot of speculation about the company's response to our shareholders derivative rights letter. We have received no official response from the company and I will relay any response to you as soon as we receive it.
We are continuing our investigations some of which were outlined in the shareholders derivative letter. I look forward to having more information for you in our next update. I regret having to report that there is nothing to report. It is probably better to hear there is nothing to report than an extended period of silence.
Onward,
Bill
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RIC... I have a question on this statement : "The biggest diamond company has a yearly operating income of $676 million dollars world wide, so where are these cult member supposedly getting rich from? So if Debeers had 703 billion shares they would only have a share price of .0009 per share if full value was recognized. The problem is with a tremendous o/s is that the o/s is never recognized" What did you use to come to that .0009 pps. I just want to see the numbers of the math equation so I can understand this better. Thanks S5
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Your just doing opposite of figuring market cap which is pps x o/s. So if you take pps of .0009165 times 703 billion it equals approx. 676 million dollar market cap. But since I was trying to find a pps for Debeers if they had 703 billion shares then divide the companies net worth by the o/s would equal its pps. But it wouldn't be that. Very few companies could have a 703 billion o/s and be over .0001 becaause the stigma of 703 billion shares.
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After doing some DD with Fastwalker we discovered that numerous of the Petro Plus claims were transfered to CMKX through Randy Studer which held the rights to Petro Plus after Urban Casavant resigned as president of Petro Plus on October 25, 1996. Petro Plus later became Odaat Inc. (Odaat Inc. transfered the CIM Zinc claims to CMKX as well as the diamond claim which is adjacent to the Kensington claim in the FALC area). Odaat later became Explor Resources Inc.
Here's where it really gets good...
Oretech Inc. Enters into Agreement to Merge with Juina Mining Corp. as Subsidiary; New Stock Trading Symbol 'ORTE'
Business Editors/Environment Writers
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 23, 2003
Oretech Inc. (OTCBB:TVYG and, effective April 24, OTCBB:ORTE) announced today they have signed an LOI (Letter of Intent) with Juina Mining Corp. (OTCPK:GEMM) to begin an acquisition process by Oretech Inc. As part of the proposed transaction, the acquisition will be effected through a fully reporting 12G Nevada corporation of Oretech's, which will allow Juina Mining to become a wholly owned subsidiary.
Steve Cummins, CEO of Oretech Inc., commented, "The objective of this acquisition is to ultimately position the public company so that it can meet the listing requirements of a higher exchange. We feel the primary benefit of this relationship, when closed and becomes effective, would be the ability to capitalize on the diligent effort that Juina has initiated in Brazil and maximizing the development opportunities there. If this transaction is consummated, we will have a strong team of mining and business professionals on board, a proven reserve base, and we will focus our efforts and all of our available resources on creating a solid revenue base, a consistently profitable bottom line and maintaining shareholder value."
James McFadden, CEO of Juina Mining Corp., commented, "We are pleased to have this opportunity, as we move into the next phase of our growth, and to soon be able to avail ourselves of Oretech's distinguished board and management team. Their team of mining and business professionals are what we've been actively looking for since day one, and we are extremely excited that Oretech will be providing us their expertise and strong market ties within the mining industry."
The formal closing for the acquisition is set for April 25, 2003. Further details will be forthcoming when available.
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.
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Oretech receives positive test results extracting oil from Tar Sands by: OilOnline Friday, August 05, 2005
Oretech, Inc has recently completed test processing on tar sands from the Athabasca region of Alberta, Canada. Preliminary results indicate the extraction of oil is apparently a higher percentage than that which is extracted by conventional methods, while remaining extremely environmentally friendly. The API gravity of the bitumen (oil) is significantly upgraded during the extraction process.
Alberta's tar sands comprise one of the world's two largest sources of bitumen; the other is in Venezuela. These oil reserves are second only to Saudi Arabia, and are found only in three places in Alberta -- the Athabasca, Peace River and Cold Lake regions -- covering a total of nearly 140,800 square kilometers. These tar sands currently represent 54 per cent of Alberta's total oil production, and about one-third of all the oil produced in Canada. Output of marketable tar sands production increased to 858,000 barrels per day (bbl/d) in 2003, up from 741,000 bbl/d the year before. It is anticipated that in 2005, Alberta's tar sands production may account for one-half of Canada's total crude output and 10 per cent of North American production.
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quote:Originally posted by TANGO42: SANTA: Don't know if you a a long -Timer with new name or just a new poster here; but I have been in this stock a long time, been bounced fron this board under another name and have watched things progress. Legaleagle also followed same pattern, Yet he has come here on a regular basis and post information(most without opinion). I have reason to believe his postings really represent only a fraction on the research that has been done & is only posted for the rare newbie who happens in to a room of negative influence. In the very early days here this company had many threads of information, but of recent months only a few who have decided how badly they have been taken.OF COURSE I do not share that view.If you are truly a fairly new person, try to take a somewhat positive view. There are few here (if any) who can say they have held longer or know the early facts. My suggestion is to read & understand all of legals posts & match them up to all the PR's since 2000. Apply a nuetral position and se if the balance does not shift to "WELL" do we have the goods ? Lefty
Tango-
I'm a long time watcher of this board and a short time member/poster. I was told by a friend about this "opportunity of a lifetime" about 1.5 years ago. I did some very basic DD... ie, searching for company website, trying to call the company, looking at the website (after even google struggled to find it), and looking at the financial statements (or lack of), etc. From this I learned: 1. CMKX is an obscure company (hard to find website, etc). 2. CMKX has a massive number of OS (703 BILLION). 3. CMKX is pumped by sites like The Green Barron (notorious for pump and dump... ie paid marketers). 4. CMKX blames others for their problems (NSS by 'international terrorists', etc).
This basic DD told me I didn't want to touch this thing with a 10 foot pole.
Then I started to see that UC was advertising the stock symbol instead of the company (Got CMKX?). I've NEVER seen any company do that.... something smelled fishy.
I also saw that CMKX partnered with only obscure pink sheet companies (SGGM, etc). None of these companies released audited information... but all of them had great press releases... or at least they claimed great things in their press releases.
At about the same time as this was happening I saw a program on the Discovery Channel (I think) about the two guys who founded Shore Gold. It showed them trekking through mud bogs and fields drilling holes with the hopes that they would find something. They did... they got lucky.
Then I looked at what UC was doing.... promoting CMKX (Got CMKX?) and hanging out with a worthless drag racing team. I asked myself why wasn't UC up in Canada knee deep in mud? Why did the CMKX website have pictures of the CMKX people looking like a bunch of tourists in Equador (I think that is where they were). All of this smelled... and thus I never jumped in.
Then, Maheu is brought in as the savior. Poor old man doesn't know up from down (look at the court transcripts). This was obviously a PR move. How could an 87 year old man be deemed credible? Sorry, but I will be age biased here.... how many companies have COBs who are 87 years old? I know I wasn't being fair, but this isn't about being fair, it's about making money.
Then the straw that broke the camel's back... and shut up my friends who were pumping.... the trial. Read the transcripts...
Life isn't easy, life isn't fair.... and there is no master conspiracy or sting operation behind this scam. Okay, maybe there is a master conspiracy... but the person behind it owns a Hummer and a big house in Vegas.
Good scams sound good... sound real.... they trap innocent people (many of whom are very bright), but in the end you lose everything.
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is....
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OK: SANTA. Based on your DD-I'd say you made the correct decision. I came by my DD much differently and played it to a free position with nothing to lose. Timing is everything. BTW-1.5 years is very short. There were in the early days here on this board a number of real savvy people, Some who were in the filed and walked with those you mentioned. THEY are all gone now when the current crew showed up about 2 years ago.
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* The friendliest person you have ever met. * People think you are wonderful and know you have connections, influence, or financial resources. * They have all the answers. * Hiding a greater "truth" from you until a more "appropriate" time. (Estabrooks, 1999)
The Organization
* A Totalitarian worldview * Exploitation: There is pressure to give money, to spend a great deal of money on special projects. Exploitation can be financial, physical, or psychological. * Alienation * Exclusivity: Secretiveness or vagueness by followers regarding activities and beliefs; recruiting and fund-raising with hidden objectives and without full disclosure; use of "front groups".
The Followers
* Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
* Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
* Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
* Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
* Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
* Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
* Followers believe that outside forces are out to get the gtoup/leader.
I asked-YOU responded; In fact your responce proves the point I was making. AS in Life CMKX and penny stocks in general polarize opinion based on a person's view of life. We all read same information and choose what to do with it. The "CULT" as referred to on this board is simply " ALL" other" views-You know this because all points (.54pps-Settlements-R/M,-etc) are lumped together as tho all are basing thier opinion on kool-Aid. This board could be similarly described as a "CULT" of non-kool-aid drinkers that view stocks ,life,CMKX in a negative manner. I note that this board & bashers in general are in a distinct minority.So once again it comesto an individuals understand & action on available information. AS IT SHOULD BE
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quote:AS in Life CMKX and penny stocks in general polarize opinion based on a person's view of life.
I can't speak for anyone else here but that's just plain ridiculous. My views of CMKX certainly don't "polarize" or reflect my views of life in any way, shape or form.
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I think you misunderstand what most of us think or believe. I'd say most of us are the type of people who have a VERY positive outlook on life, BUT, good business people generally look at all of the things that could go wrong when evaluating an investment. Besides, in the case of CMKX there is so much WRONG!
I guess we could be positive and hope that we uncover a pirates buried treasure.... or Al Cappone's vault.... or even the holy grail... but WAKE UP because it isn't going to happen.
Sorry to burst the happy-go-lucky bubble but your investment is worth NOTHING.
You and your cohorts take advantage of many people's good nature and their faith. You're either stupid (probably no fault of your own) or knowingly deceptive.... in which case I know where you're going.
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quote:AS in Life CMKX and penny stocks in general polarize opinion based on a person's view of life.
I can't speak for anyone else here but that's just plain ridiculous. My views of CMKX certainly don't "polarize" or reflect my views of life in any way, shape or form.
And Upside that is why I don't consider you a basher. You are simply a "realist", not a negative person. And CMKX doesn't fit the "norm" for realism. But "realism" also isn't one of the "poles".
Probably only one in a thousand Gold Rush 49ers actually came home wealthy. The realists said it wasn't worth the risk. The realists stayed home and ran their farms or businesses where income was sure. But that one guy, that one optimist, that one dreamer,he took the chance. And wealth and prosperity became his "reality".
CMKX is that one chance in our lifetime.
Call me a dreamer, call me a pumper, call me a kool aid drinker. I did my DD and continue to. I staked my "claim" on CMKX for good reasons and information. "Boom or Bust", I am in it for the long haul. I may be with the "99" or I may be with the "one" that makes it. Only time will tell.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: We know there can be gold in "pinks", it's just a matter of staking the right claim.
Agreed. But 99.9% of the pinks are NOT long plays. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Get in, get out. CMKX has gone down over 85% (.0004 to .0000?) in the 18 months I've followed it.
HISC looks like it could be a real company.... CMKX has always looked like a scam.
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United Carina defines three U targets in Saskatchewan
2005-09-27 13:18 ET - News Release
Mr. Rick Walker reports
SANDSTONE BOULDER SAMPLING SUCCESSFULLY DEFINES THREE URANIUM TARGETS IN THE HATCHET / WOLLASTON LAKE AREA OF NORTHERN SASKATCHEWAN
United Carina Resources Corp. has received favourable results from the 2005 boulder sampling program on its uranium property situated along the eastern edge of the Athabasca basin, in the Wollaston Lake area of Northern Saskatchewan. The property is located approximately 30 kilometres north of major uranium production centres near the Rabbit Lake and McClean Lake mills and their associated high-grade unconformity uranium deposits.
The recent exploration program consisted of sampling Athabasca sandstone boulders for geochemical analysis. Sandstone boulder geochemistry is used to map regional variations in clay minerals and trace element levels to detect hydrothermal alteration associated with unconformity-type uranium mineralization. Important alteration signatures in this part of the Athabasca basin are elevated proportions of illite and chlorite clays and above background geochemistry for boron, lead, arsenic, molybdenum and uranium.
Previous work identified five areas requiring detailed exploration. This summer's exploration program highlighted three areas (areas A, G and a new area -- Le Drew) having anomalous sandstone boulder geochemistry defining target areas for follow-up exploration.
Area A
Encouraging results were obtained south of Hatchet Lake in an area west of Turkey Lake. Sandstone boulders were found exhibiting alteration features and geochemistry common to all the unconformity-related deposits in the eastern Athabasca basin.
Sandstone boulders found at one sample site have outstanding visual alteration features, including gray pyritic sandstone, silicified sandstone and a boulder with secondary hydrothermal hematite. Boulders in the area have anomalous geochemistry, with boron values up to 26 parts per million (median six parts per million), uranium values up to 0.67 part per million (median 0.21 part per million), lead values up to 0.96 part per million (median 0.53 part per million) and arsenic values up to 0.5 part per million (median 0.2 part per million). The sandstone is moderately illitic.
Immediately up-ice from the site and within the overall geochemical anomaly are two untested geophysical conductors. These conductors occur 10 kilometres along strike of Areva's Moonlight zone, which has intersections up to 1.76 per cent U per 1.5 metres.
Sandstone thickness in the area of the conductors is estimated to be 50 metres.
Area G
Boulder sampling identified target area G along the eastern edge of the Athabasca sandstone, south of Tromberg Bay. Geochemical values are up to 0.31 part per million uranium (median 0.21 part per million), up to 31 parts per million boron (median six parts per million) and the sandstone is strongly illitic. These values are associated with an untested geophysical conductor.
Le Drew
Boulder sampling highlighted the Le Drew Lake area, near the edge of the Athabasca sandstone. Previous work identified outstanding radon-in-water (uranium pathfinder) anomalies. These were interpreted to coincide with the junction of two major fault systems. The boulder sampling confirms the presence of anomalous uranium values up to 0.89 part per million (median 0.21 part per million) and anomalous lead up to 1.17 parts per million (median 0.53 part per million). A weak, untested geophysical conductor is closely associated with the anomalous boulders.
The boulder sampling program found several other areas weakly anomalous in trace elements and these require more work. One of these is the South Bear property, with uranium values up to 0.56 part per million (median 0.21 part per million), lead up to 2.83 parts per million (median 0.53 part per million) and one sample with 0.4 molybdenum (median 0.05 part per million).
United Carina plans to establish ground grids and complete geophysical surveys over the three target areas as soon as logistically possible. Following data interpretation, the resulting targets will be drill tested.
The Hatchet Lake property is currently 100 per cent owned by United Carina and consists of four claim blocks, totalling 41,864 acres. Entourage Mining Ltd. is earning a 20-per-cent interest in the property and CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is earning a 40-per-cent interest in the property. When the earn-ins have been completed, the property ownership will be: United Carina Resources, 40 per cent: CMKM Diamonds, 40 per cent; and Entourage Mining, 20 per cent.
The qualified person responsible for the technical information in this news release is Daniel Studer, PGeo. All samples were analyzed at the Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC) geoanalytical laboratories.
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great news legal....of course by the time any mining happens cmkm diamonds will be history, well as far as shareholders are concerned & thats the biggest scam of all this. if cmkx ever does find anything worth money not 1 shareholder will benifit. it has to trade to benifit & it wont be trading soon. lets say a yr from now UC finally gets everything together & re-applies to trade. do you honestly think the SEC will let him trade with a 703.5 billion o/s? not a chance. 10 million shares will become 5 shares. they wont even let CIM IPO with its current o/s. thats the 1 point you never factor in...nothing in this world with 703.5 billion shares has any value.
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I had an interesting experience today. At least once a week I'll get a call from some New York broker claiming to have a hot pick for me. It seems to always be a kid just starting out in the brokerage game, trying to make a buck. Typically I'll just say thanks, not interested or just hang up. Today a fast talking guy claiming to be from Morgan Stanley calls me and I decided to have some fun with him.
He claimed to have a bunch of hot picks but he needed to assess my "investment style" and he asked for three stocks that I currently have a position in. Without skipping a beat I fire off CMKX, USCA, and GEMM. The guy pauses for about 5 seconds or so then he chuckles and says "you're pulling my leg, right?" I say "hell no, especially CMKX, I'm heavy into that one." The guy takes a deep breath and says "ok sir, I can help you" (of course). He tells me to sell all of my CMKX at whatever price I can get because they're not going to be around much longer. I asked him what about USCA and GEMM and he says "I'm assuming they're restricted and you can't sell them" so he was familiar with the whole situation. I started to bring up all of the CMKX theories I could think of and in a polite way he told me I was an idiot. After going back and forth with him for about 10 minutes I told him I was bullchitting and didn't really own any and I wasn't really interested in his picks. He gave me one anyway and told me to watch it and he'd call me back in two weeks after his pick made a believer out of me. His pick was ARDI which he expects to hit 7.00 or so in the next two weeks but wouldn't give a reason why. I suspect I'll never hear from him again.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Bet you bought ARDI anyway, huh?
Nope, didn't buy it. I've seen too many of these "hot picks" go right down the tubes although on occasion, they do take off. I'll keep my eye on it.
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