quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: santacruz, you might want to check some of the other CMKX boards to see what is being done by CMKXers for victims of Katrina. I noticed nothing organized was done here by the non-"cult" members.
While we may be victims of blind "STUPID" faith, many of us are smart enough to know how to spell "deception".
That is about as low a blow as you can go. Sounds very Christian to me. We all do what we feel is right. I for one work with the Disabled American Veterans Organization and have been doing fundraisers and charity drop-off points. But hey gloat all you want while trying to justify this investment.
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You can try to twist the statement however you like, but it was made to an individual who implied that CMKXers were not doing anything to help the victims. The opposite is the truth, and he was pointed to other boards where collections and donations are being made. This board, however, made no such attempt. My statement had nothing to do with what individuals here may have done or not done, it simply pointed up that there was no organized effort here in "basherville" like there was by the "faithful".
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Legal: "While we may be victims of blind "STUPID" faith, many of us are smart enough to know how to spell "deception"."
W: And there are plenty of people on the other threads you frequent, legal, that cannot spell. In fact, I noticed there are many more than on this thread.
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Well, I agree with name calling legal but some boards that I won't mention are real bad at name calling and other things. But you are talking about the CT board and PB. The problem with those boards is there is no free speech at all on them. If you disagree then you will be banned. Now there has been some discontent on PB32 lately but it still only allowed by those that were once big time pumpers. If you are me, bill, or Ed you get banned when you state the truth that they don't want to hear. But CT board doesn't allow the truth period on there board unless its yours and Debi's truth. Now thats the difference in boards. Free to speak your mind or free to speak the cults line only. Big difference.
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I had a dream where the DOJ finished its case against UC and his cohorts. They called the spy back in (Maheu) to be their star witness to put all the crooks in jail. And UC got a new roommate in jail, bubba. Dream, lol.
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Oh and by the way this board did have a Katrina thread of where you could drop off supplies and organization you could donate to. So this board did care. And there were several on other threads too.
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legal i was called worse then stupid before being banned on pb32 & i think the line was stupid faith not stupid ppl. i think i can speak for every so called basher here when i say anyone the thinks UC gives a rat's behind about shareholders making money on their shares is stupidly putting faith in a scam artist, even those ppl that are intelligent. even smart ppl do stupid chit some times.
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Ric, CT tolerates negative opinion as long as it is backed up with some sort of facts or intelligent opinon. Do we allow people to just come in and say "Urban is a crook"? NO. That's for this board and RB.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Oh and by the way this board did have a Katrina thread of where you could drop off supplies and organization you could donate to. So this board did care. And there were several on other threads too.
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But they tolerate pumps with no facts to back them up. Like Debi's dream of a settlement. Thats what I mean. Your free to speak if its what the cult wants to hear. Opposing opinions are not tolerated and have no less facts as the pumpers. Usually they have more facts then the pumpers.
And if Urban doesn't want to be called a crook then he needs to answer some questions instead of having PRIVATE lawyers tell him to take the fifth. And anwer the question on why he sold off his shares and why his family was given so many shares to sell. Why 703 billion shares were dumped on investors making their investments worthless. He deserves the crook title till he at least comes clean.
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Ric, CT tolerates negative opinion as long as it is backed up with some sort of facts or intelligent opinon. Do we allow people to just come in and say "Urban is a crook"? NO. That's for this board and RB.
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"CT tolerates negative opinion as long as it is backed up with some sort of facts or intelligent opinon"....now there's a load of chit...lol every known thing about cmkx, every document that has been exposed, the court transcript, what the auditor questioned, what frizzy has questioned is fact & those facts say scam. those facts say UC is a crook. about the only negative opinion CT will tolerate is complaining about not being rich yet or trying to put blame everywhere but where it belongs...UC's lap.
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I would be banned from CT before I got there, because I would select anitchrist as my user's name. Afterall, that is what y'all think of any dissenters.
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And Bob only banned those that got personal over here. I mean really personal. Some of those that have came here from CT and PB have been nasty to say the least. The only thing they could do was attack poster because they had no facts to bring.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Ric, CT tolerates negative opinion as long as it is backed up with some sort of facts or intelligent opinon. Do we allow people to just come in and say "Urban is a crook"? NO. That's for this board and RB.
Legal, that's BS. You cult members had all the facts here and when you refused to accept reality and facts, you went to the cookoo boards.
PS: And when someone calls Urban Casavant a crook, there are plenty of facts to back up that opinion. Therefore, it should always be allowed on those threads you frequent.
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quote:Originally posted by will: I would be banned from CT before I got there, because I would select anitchrist as my user's name. Afterall, that is what y'all think of any dissenters.
When you sign up at a board, you're supposed to come up with a user name, not use your real name.
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Some Board Members have stated the reason CMKM is not communicating and keeping its shareholders informed via PRs is because the Company is under some type of a "gag order" or mandated "silence period" or restriction by the SEC, etc., etc., etc.
Well, here is the bottom line as per my conversation today at 2:38PM PT with the SEC's Branch Chief, Mr. Marshall Sprung from the Los Angeles Office of the SEC. [By the way, Mr. Sprung works with Leslie Hakala on her cases and is "very familiar" with the CMKM case]
I asked him the following question:
Are you aware of any restriction placed on CMKM that would prevent them from releasing PRs such as a "gag order" or "silence period" or any such restriction.
His answer was a firm NO!...there is NO such restriction.
Therefore, this should put and end to the incorrect assumptions, statements, etc., regarding such.
Thus I ask: UC&Co. let's bring the shareholders up-to-date with a series of PRs and keep us informed as promised in CMKM's 2/11/05 PR stating:
"Maheu has also instructed management that regular reports to stockholders and the financial community are imperative."
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Hopefully many of them, and all leading to some kind of valuation in our Saskatchewan claims. As most of you know I have been doing research on the land claims for over a year now. We have seen an enormous change in the landscape of the Fort a la Corne area, both in size, and in the ownership of mineral claims.
In the past 26 months CMKX has acquired land claims in 13 of those months, with the latest claims on record being staked on June 16th , 2005.
Here is a basic graphic of the area we now lay claim to in the Fort a la Corne area and Green Lake area of Saskatchewan. http://tinypic.com/drcvaa.jpg
To the left of the Fort a la Corne area you can see the Green Lake Area.
Claim: A claim may be held for two years and thereafter from year to year subject to the holder expending the required amounts in exploration operations on the claim lands (s. 34).
Work Requirements
The following exploration and development work will be accepted as assessment work for a permit, claim or lease (s. 69): 1. Stripping and trenching; 2. drilling; 3. geological, geophysical, and geochemical surveys; 4. prospecting; 5. necessary travelling and transportation costs, up to 10% of the cost of the assessment work performed; and 6. any other type of work approved by the Minister. The manner in which work must be reported is described in detail in the Regulations (ss. 70, 71 & Appendix 2).
Expenditures
Claim: The holder of a claim must make the following minimum expenditures on assessment work (s. 36): 1. 1st year - nil 2. 2nd to 10th year - $12.00 per hectare per year 3. After 10th year - $25.00 per hectare per year .
A disposition holder may pay cash in-lieu-of work, or may obtain an extension of up to one year by submitting a cash deposit or bond (ss. 39 & 58).
Deficiency Payments: If a deficiency payment is made in-lieu-of work for a disposition year, the deficiency deposit may refunded if sufficient work is undertaken within the next year to cover the requirement for two years. If sufficient work is not submitted, all or a portion of the deficiency deposit may be forfeited to the Crown. Deficiency cash payments, whether refunded or not, cannot be made for more than three consecutive years. After this time, work must be undertaken by the holder for at least one year (S. 39 & 58).
Extension of Time: An extension of time may be granted by the Minister to allow a holder an additional period of either 3, 6, 9 or 12 months to meet the expenditure requirements. There is a $30.00 application fee per disposition and if the work requirement is not met the cash deposit is forfeited to the Crown (s. 42). Excess work in one year may be credited towards work requirements in subsequent years for the term of the disposition (S. 38 & 57).
In the 025 Sask Ltd. Claims, we are approaching the two year mark +90 days for some claims in the Fort a la Corne area. In the following map we can see how some of these areas may be critical to the company. In terms of potential value these claims could contain something of worth when compared in location to other finds in the area. As you can see in the above regulations nothing is absolute in terns of the next 6 months as some have suggested. The company does still have other options available to them other than just letting the claims lapse.
Based on the above we come to this. The following are the claims in 101047025 SASKATCHEWAN LTD.
This table shows the date of expiration of the claims if no work is done on any of the claims, and the ministry of resources issues no extensions to pay any deficiency payments. The links take you to graphic images of the area locations on the Saskatchewan map.
May 6th ,1997 125 Hectares Lapsed * On October 2005 lapsed list.*
Date of Claim Area in Hectares Date of expiration + 90 days
As we can plainly see, a lot of these claims include areas surrounding known finds in the area. Some of these areas have been mentioned in PR’s in the past. It will be interesting to see, after the testing Mr. Koch has spoken of with a fellow shareholder, the company retains some of these claims, or allows them to lapse.
Keep in mind that if the lottery system of claiming lapsed mineral claims is implemented as planned in October 2005, in the southern mining district, companies will all have to change exploration strategies, and in that report results faster to ensure claims stay in good standing.
You can read the 2004 document put out by the Saskatchewan Gov't with regard to the lottery system here:
Yes, one of our Zinc Claims has been allowed to lapse. This is the type of situation I have been alluding to in the past week or so in my posts. We cannot reasonably expect every claim to be kept. With over a million acres in inventory, I as a shareholder would hope that after testing and evaluating each claims merits, the company would start purging some claims that are not as valuable as others may be. Here is a graphical representation of the Zinc Claims. Note the dates of the claims in the picture, two of the claims are from June of this year.
As you can see there are three of these claims approaching the 2 year + 90 day deadline for renewal. Again, whether the company renews these claims or not remains to be seen. The fact they did something this year in the same area already certainly lends creedence to the possibility they are still examining all options in the George Lake Area.
What does all this mean? Well, to me it means that all through the next year CMKX and its management team has many decisions to make regarding the core part of the business. To me it means we are not about to lose all of our claims as some people have stated we are. To me it means that CMKX is alive.
So of course we get to ask more questions…..
What claims will they keep? Which claims will be deemed expendable? Are there deals being made in Hong Kong / China? Will we be the miners? Or just the explorers? Will CMKX do both? Will we see a BHP or a TINTO come into the picture? Will we have more Joint Venture partners? Will we merge with another entity? Will we roll into another company?
To me this means that we can not be fearful of what the company leaves behind on its way to becoming a force to reckon with in the world of Diamonds but support the company to do the right things with what we have.
To me this means this is an exciting time to be a CMKX shareholder. I believe.
As always these are just my opinions on my research to date. If you find any errors please let me know and I will do my best to fix them.
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i cant even believe how the cult took that line from UC's pr & ran with it. the pr stated IF...IF the SEC wanted us to shut up we would. the cult took that & turned it into a SEC gag order. all the SEC has asked of cmkx is to go public with every detail of the company info i.e., financial statements, share structure, claim info, core sample results, the details of any deals with other companies & where that money went. any right thinking persaon would be on the SEC's side on this one. the SEC might be screwing up in other area's, naked shorting for example but telling cmkx to put up or shut up is not the wrong thing to do.
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Oh, stop yourself, man. no one is persicuting you crazies. Believe what you like. Believe people can die and be ok like the characters on star trek. Believe CMKX is a great investment and will make you rich. No one really cares what you folks think or beleive anymore, it has gotten to a point where it is laughable and you should be embarassed for yourselves. Who cares if you're a Christian or a lying hypocrite. Y'all lost your money and threw your minds after it. There isn't any NSS. There isn't any sting. There isn't any value. There is only your stubborn dumb asses that refuse to stop lying to yuorselves, and trying to pass that nonsense on to others. Yeah yeah, I know I'm just afraid I made a bad decsion and I feel like I'm outside looking in. You're on the inside crazy enough to believe that this mental masturbation you offer is acceptable, like monkies at zoo or people locked up in a nut house, you don't even know what you're doing is wrong. You're nuts!
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Gosh it's good to be home. Can't you smell the Christians burning at the stake.
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Careful! He's already attacked for someone's spelling. As far as burning is concerned, I well remember the cult's witch hunts....legal included.
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legal, not 1 claim is in the name of CMKX. show us the document that says UC has put everything held in Sask 025 in CMKX's books. your talking about a guy that gave everyone he could millions if not billions of shares, his family, his friends, his friends families, their friends & their families. his clerk got $5 million worth of shares for pete's sake. remember the last we saw UC was not the only person on the owners list of sask 025. to be blunt your have no proof CMKM Diamonds holds claim to anything other then 1 mine shaft in S.A. & that doesn't bring in $1 million worth of gold a yr.
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i'm wondering how long after cmkx is revoked the cult will sit there waiting for word from their fearless leader UC. we might get a pr saying something about as soon as they get an auditor they will get everything reported. they might add another SEC gag hint or something about lack of records but that will be the last thing heard from cmkx & UC.
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This just blows my mind. I can't say anything and it be nice about this post. So I won't.
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the best evidence cmkx had was UC taking the 5th. it was a 1 day thing thus the SEC brought out all that was needed to prove CMKX should be filing & wasn't & had little hope of ever being able too. 6 months later cmkx has done everything they could to prove the SEC correct. lost a second auditor & filed nothing. that auditor had to force UC to tell shareholders they found things that looked to be illegal.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: legal, not 1 claim is in the name of CMKX. show us the document that says UC has put everything held in Sask 025 in CMKX's books. your talking about a guy that gave everyone he could millions if not billions of shares, his family, his friends, his friends families, their friends & their families. his clerk got $5 million worth of shares for pete's sake. remember the last we saw UC was not the only person on the owners list of sask 025. to be blunt your have no proof CMKM Diamonds holds claim to anything other then 1 mine shaft in S.A. & that doesn't bring in $1 million worth of gold a yr.
Bill, surely you have seen the lease agreement between CMKX and Emmerson Koch for the 025 claims.
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