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Wallace - the way I see it, something ( when is the question ) has to happen that is more definitive after this ( court hearing )then all the speculation that you, I, legal, will, bill dwman etc have had over the last ohhhhh......year or so.
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Absolutely right, Jeal. Anxious to see something though....anything that will suggest the Judge's decision or thinking as well as numbers.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Absolutely right, Jeal. Anxious to see something though....anything that will suggest the Judge's decision or thinking as well as numbers.
Wallace,
I believe you already know that I am fence sitter. I am realistic but optimistic. I agree. Any indication of direction would be much obliged at this point. However, I really cant figure out why its so quiet on such a "Marked" day.
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Not a peep after 2.5 hours....the silence is deafening....
-------------------- If I give you bad information, please feel free to sue me. I have nothing left anyway. Ed Posts: 1772 | From: Oxford, PA, USA | Registered: Oct 2004
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Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Not feeling well so took a nap. Lousy cold.
Seems to me that if they took a lunch break, something just might slip out....unless it's all bad news for CMKX.
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You dont actually expect the Koolaid drinkers to report anything negative, do you??
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Judge needs to go back to Washington to review documents.
New exhibits allowed into July.
There was a lot he said, I didnt catch a lot because it was quiet, might want to go check the other boards for a real rundown.
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"I am somewhat concerned that the Judge does not understand NS."
I am surprised. Maybe she was misinterpreted. Or, it could be opposition SPIN. Hardly likely she could/would rule out NSS as evidence unless she understood the basics or better.
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CMKX auditors resigned yesterday... John Woodward own a substantial amount of the OS John Woosdward is Not happy with UC pleading the Fifth Rodger glenn was paid 250K NSS will not be allowed in as evidence Hearing will go late today.
Judge let many more in the courtroom and everyone who was there got in. Brought in chairs.
Judge made it clear she will have to go back to Washington and read the transcripts when she is done.
No one will help her make this ruling, she will do it on her own.
Judge ruled that other exhibits can be presented to her until mid-July and this is good for us.
Bill Frizzell is very involved with Stocklein. (in the courtroom)
Judge ruled that NS is not going to be admitted into evidence and wants to know what it is.
She asked SEC if they think CMKX is NSS'd and the SEC said no.
Frizzell asked if he good speak to this and she said yes.
The judge is concerned about the shareholders; SEC doesn't want them there.
Stocklein said they filed Form 15 by mistake. $2 million spent on filings and they are not done.
Frizzell thanked the judge for being there. He told the judge that there are trillions of shares in this company...not billions as she thought.
Judge is concerned about the number of the shares.
Stocklein cross examined and said that pink sheets shouldn't have to file if they have less than 300 shareholders.
Frizzell "was tearing it up" and the crowd was delighted with the exchange, asking Levine why he resigned one-day before the hearing.
Witnesses: Chris Wall...CD from Green Baron mp3 entered as evidence.
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Please clarify: "Frizzell thanked the judge for being there. He told the judge that there are trillions of shares in this company...not billions as she thought."
Trillions in the company (as authorized and unknown to us) is one thing. Trillions issued and outstanding is another. Trillions I/O plus NSS is something else again.
Sounds like all bad news for UC and CMKX to me. Let's hear the SPIN! --------------------------- "Judge is concerned about the number of the shares."
The Judge being concerned about the number of shares says nothing except that 700+ billion OS and 800 billion Auth is outrageous. -------------------------------------------- "Stocklein cross examined and said that pink sheets shouldn't have to file if they have less than 300 shareholders."
Brilliant deduction!!!! See how many of you could have become lawyers? LOL ------------------------------------------- "asking Levine why he resigned one-day before the hearing."
I'd like to know the reason for that too. Normally they don't resign unless there is something being tried that they do not agree with. Should have raided their dumpster....offices are just a few miles away.
CRITICAL RESPONSE: "She asked SEC if they think CMKX is NSS'd and the SEC said no." ------------------------------------------- "Judge ruled that other exhibits can be presented to her until mid-July and this is good for us."
Don't know why they would say "this is good for us". It works both ways, the NSS thing is completely out of the picture, there is precedence, and, the SEC is not sitting by idle. I would imagine they got a lot of information from unhappy CMKX suckers. --------------------------------------
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Well, I didn't think anything definite would come out today. Well, it hasn't yet. I see she has already gone to a JULY date, so that guarantees at least two more months of spin, pump, theories, and hope for the hopeless. Frizzel tore it up? Wonder how so? Trillions of shares out there? Still no share structure. This is so silly, it could all have been over one way or the other if CMKX was forthright and forthcoming with the share structure. That doesn't have to be held secret from the competition.(of course the faithful will disagree to keep the fading hope alive) Just ridiculous nonsense.
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Before the old thread disappears, I thought this should be reposted, pretty funny stuff by bill1352:
quote:can you hear the judge with UC.....
judge: 703 billion o/s??? why?
UC: they were naked shorting my stock & diluting the pps so i laid a trap for them.
judge: by issuing 703 billion shares??
UC: yep, that way more ppl can get rich when i spring the trap
judge: doesnt 703 billion shares dilute your stock?
UC: yep but our claims are next to debeers & shore gold & the mm's will pay big in a short squeeze. here read zen's post on it, or dr.d's, or sterlings.
judge: have you found any diamonds?
UC: yep but i sneezed & they blew off the table.
judge: are you still drilling?
UC: yep but its hard work & the duct tape used to hold the pipe together keeps ripping. then we keep hitting diamonds & breaking our drill bits.
Judge: where are your books?
UC: your honor i'm not real good with records, i'm not perfect. we can't find a lot of stuff & the ppl i hired didn't do a good job.
judge: i hear you built a new home & like race cars?
UC: yep, its pretty too, cost me $5 million & the cars are my hobby. i need to relax with all the stress of the mm's naked shorting me.
Judge: ok let me get this straight, the mm's n/s your stock diluting it so you issue 703 billion shares into the o/s diluting it so more can get rich when mm's are squeezed. you lost the 2 diamonds you found to a slight breeze & your equipment is held together with duct tape. you have no records to speak of. $5 million new home & cash to sponser race cars. is this all correct?
UC: yep, thats about it.
Judge: forget me reading anything in washington, i've heard enough. UC, get off the drugs. REVOKED.
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Mrs. Hakala questioned, her name was Suzanne Herring, she's an auditor for the Stocklein law firm. Essentially the line of questioning was about the books. She reported that the books were essentially non-existant, that she's been working towards getting the books together. The entire line of questioning was designed to is not a (can't make this part out) filer.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: FRIZZELL: "THERE ARE NOT BILLIONS OF SHARES IN THIS COMPANY, THERE ARE TRILLIONS ."
PRETTY MUCH MAKES THE SEC IRRELEVANT IN PROTECTING SHAREHOLDERS.
where's the evidence??????
show US...
GLASS THAT'S WHY FRIZZELL IS THERE, BUT I THINK HE HAS TO SHOW IT TO THE JUDGE BEFORE HE SHOWS IT TO YOU. IF HE SAID IT TO THE JUDGE, HE'S GOT IT.
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Looks like it might be put up or sit down time for the faithful and the honorable Mr. Frizzell Esq.. This judge isn't going to be influenced by inuendo, theories, or nonsense scribbled on a message board from Dr. D, Zen, or Sterling.
Come to think of it, she might not even want to see it in the end. She might decide it's another matter for the faithful and Mr. Frizzell Esq. to take to a different court undedr a different action.
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SHE ALLOWED THE ENTRY OF THE SHAREHOLDER STATEMENTS, SO SHE HAS ALREADY ADMITTED EVIDENCE OF THE NAKED SHORT, AND RULED THAT IT COULD BE DISCUSSED IN THE HEARING. BUT THEN AGAIN, SHE ALSO HAD TO ASK WHAT NAKED SHORTING IS.
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i know martin had a very short time to get a few points out but i'd say he skipped over a few things that i'm sure had more meat. like why global left. the green baron cd might be interesting, i may be wrong but didn't UC say there was not 400 billion in the o/s during that interview? & not long after the a/s went to 800 billion & the divys worked out to 779 billion. nothing against martin but someone that owns cmkx buy the 10's of millions will remember points in his favor long after anything negitive unless it pisses him off at cmkx, its human nature. we need a local basher in there...lol
-------------------- "keep your stick on the ice & your cup firmly in place" Posts: 3651 | From: Algonac, MI. 48001 | Registered: Jun 2004
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legel i think he was saying she asked what the count was not what was naked shorting. i listened again & i think in his haste it came out sort of like that. the judge would have to know what nss is to be on this case. he said no eveidence allowed but she wanted to know what it was as in how big a short or a final count.
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