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CMKX has no operating expense for mining in 2004
hmmm you mean all those new rigs UC was talking about never happened? the duct tape had to cost something...lol. i think mahoo got sucked into something & is not real happy about it. i got an idea this whole deal is as much scam as it is an idiot in charge. if he had any brains there would at least be a fake paper trail to have in case the SEC got involved. money in accounts but no clue from where, they pay roger $250K but can't pay an accountant to get the records back. & this was from the CMKX side of things??? cmkx witnesses??? the good stuff??? the proof it should not be revoked???? no F'in wonder they went with the NS stuff...lmao. i had said they used that after looking into everything & found out chit was in the toilet & it was all they had.
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John Martins interview was rose covered. He made it sound like nothing bad happened. So the koolaide drinkers will run with this only and dismiss any other statements. But still doesn't matter. Judge said its filings. No filings revoked. Filings will continue. But since they say they have no records then how do they file??? But hey I am sure they can get legal to come up with something.
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That is good news... hearing there are 60k documented shareholders... not accounts ... Shareholders
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i heard most the martin thing but all i heard was NS chit...what about no records, cash in accounts but no idea from where, money spent but on what?? i'd love a transcript of the day, not pumper chit. they only hear or spout what they want to not the whole story. he said he thought they would suspend trading...there has to be a reason he thought that.....legel i was wrong he did say it seemed the judge did not understand NSS which i still find hard to believe but she has a broker & penny stocks are not in her path. she knows law & NSS isn't in the law books.
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Which ever or both. Looks like 2 months more of it. lol
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: hey wallace are we here still posting because we are egomaniacs needing to be proven right or is it just because we have no life & this is fun..lol
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Damn! Who was it that said they wish someone other than Christian Traders, Shareholder Group and other Cult Members were there to report the truth? Wasn't anyone there who would be able and willing to tell the whole truth instead of a shaded version?
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well that leave 55K left to hear from highway & i'll bet 98% of them are the 1 to 5 million shareholders. they threw a couple hundred on it just in case. what PISSES me off is still no insider shares announced. how do you go all day in court yapping about a stock, not filing, lost records, NS problems but never get to what % of the o/s is insider???? & you know frizzy wont say chit because of the chance at a class action against someone, either cmkx or the SEC, DTC & that info is the key.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thinks judge was unbiased, cared for shareholders.
We did it! We made the company visible. We stood up for our rights and our shares and the judge "got it!"
Picking up from lunch...
Witness after Lunch: Rendell. Was questioned about UC and he said UC was working on reporting and UC said 10-12 times they would be reporting by the party. Seemed SEC was trying to prove UC was really trying all that hard.
They played 17 minutes of the Green Baron CD. They asked the courtroom if they wanted to hear it, no one did...but the Judge over ruled and they did.
Stocklein crossed Rendell, and asked who is counsel was. (Roger Glenn)
UCAD is 50/50 split with CMKX. CMKX owns the shaft...15 levels deep. UCAD has multiple processing plants in Ecuador.
Bill asked Rendell, if UCAD bought into CMKX? Yes, but Rendell couldn't remember how much cash was paid or how much stock was given...or when the investigation was started into his company?
Thejudge said Frizzell you're puting words into his mouth, and he said he was not answering and he was trying to get an answer.
Urban took the stand and plead the fifth. Urban's attorney said he didn't imply guilt by taking the fifth. The SEC tried rapid fire questions (harrassment) but he plead the fifth.
ED Donahoe was next. Stocklein tried to get Ed to give a value of the claims and the SEC argued for him not to becuase he is not a claims expert and the judge ruled for the SEC.
SEC asked if Ed had seen reports for CMKX filing, he did not.
Stockelein was trying to get a vlaue form Ed but couldn't get a streaight answer due to objections form SEC.
Mahue on stand. Explained UC asked him to join. Asked why to take the job...he came for the plight of the shareholder, never runs form challenges. Was going to surround himself with good people to bring this to reporting and he is being paid $40K per month. When asked if mahue could get the filings done, Mahue said YES.
SEC rapid fire questions to Mahue, but he did fine.
Michelle Buck, attorney for Stocklein law firm...next witness. Was asked what she is doing for the company and the form 15. Said company was working in a repsonsibile way.Mahue and UC made the decision to file form 15 together.
They hired Opus Point to do the books and is owned by Stocklein Law Firm.
Frizzell asked about activiites proviing time and money si being spent to get filings done, showing the court that they are trying and working hard to get it done.
SEC tried to get Mrs. Buck to look bad, but couldn't.
At the end the SEC tried to get an exhibit that Bill entered (a letter to Jeff the Market Maker) out of the exhibit, but Bill got the judge to keep it in.
We are gathering more statments in support of the numbers during the next couple weeks.
Bill was disappointed that the judge wouldn't admit evidence of NSS.
There is a meeting with Stocklein and the SEC tomorrow morning...but they didn't say what that is about.
John feels that the courtroom knows that the NSS is a real issue, but he REALLY thinks the judge doesn't understand the magnitude of this issue...or what it really is.
He thinks the company has proved that we have tried to report. He thinks the judge will do whatever is necessary to keep us going. She could have halted us, but did not...she must see something there.
The shareholders were a BIG part of this hearing.
It's important for us to realize that we an't be done. We need to get more faxes in of how many shares you own!
There are 60,000 shareholders documented!
We MUST concentrate on our game plan (as shareholders). There is no doubt in John's mind that once the judge sees and udnerstands there is a NS issue there...he thinks she will want an explanation of what is going on. He thinks it will be helpful to her.
Even if we are halted, delisted or even revoked for a period of time, it will trap the MM from being able to move.
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I think it doesn't matter bill, either they file and we know the information or they don't file and there revoked. Period. And since they can't file without records then there revoked.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: well that leave 55K left to hear from highway & i'll bet 98% of them are the 1 to 5 million shareholders. they threw a couple hundred on it just in case. what PISSES me off is still no insider shares announced. how do you go all day in court yapping about a stock, not filing, lost records, NS problems but never get to what % of the o/s is insider???? & you know frizzy wont say chit because of the chance at a class action against someone, either cmkx or the SEC, DTC & that info is the key.
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EARLIER BREAK CONVERSATION WITH JOHN MARTIN
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hello everybody, this is John Martin again. I just wanted to bring everybody up to date. The Judge was looking at a clock in the court room that was not working right, and she was under the impression that it was 12:30 california time, when in fact it was a couple hours later than that. We got in just one witness, which Mrs. Hakala questioned, her name was Suzanne Herring, she's an auditor for the Stocklein law firm. Essentially the line of questioning was about the books. She reported that the books were essentially non-existant, that she's been working towards getting the books together. The entire line of questioning, seemed to me was designed to prove that the company is not delaying(<---can't make this part out) filing. There still is not a redirect by Mr.Stocklein or Mr. Frizzel, they chose to wait until after lunch to do that. It is my understanding that in one hour we will reconvene. The Judge seems to think that we will finish this tonite, she plans on taking this long into the evening, untill we're finished. I have no idea what needs to be done, there's still a great deal of material to go through. When I left the courtroom a moment ago, the judge, and the attorneys were meeting at the judge's seat, and discussing something of interest, I was not privvy to that, I'm going to take a lunch break, and get a bite to eat. I'll report back as soon as we have another break, after getting started in about an hour, I hope everybody's hangin' in there, I know it's a long day, there's a lot going on, a lot of positioning, from the SEC, Mr.Stocklein, and Mr. Frizzel. It seems as though there's going to be quite a bit of questioning, in this hearing by Mr. Stocklein, and Mr.Frizzel as soon as we reconveign from lunch. I hope everybodies having a good day, and I'll talk to everybody soon, bye,bye." -Word for Word From the mouth of John Martin, as promised, you read it here first!-Cruise
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NSS is a big issue guys... check out global crossing....
i have a human broker account that i've had for most of my life with a name you would recognise.. i also trade on-line actts... (i also made some buckage on global crossing about 6-7 yrs ago before they went under)
this is important...
my human broker denied any knowledge of naked shorting...just last year...
i didn't trust him much before that... i don't trust him at all now...
the avg investor don't know chit about the markets..
they read MONEY, and Barrons and other expensive reports and buy mutual funds, or they have MANAGED accts...if you have $100K? you should seriously consider a managed acct....
anybody who don't have ahundred grand and invested 10 grand or more in CMK? don't deserve to have the 100 grand
problem here is that any NSS in CMK? is there for the same reason it is the BIGs...the MM's DO know what they are trading and how much it's worth... every stock i've DD'ed on the SHO list has had something in the filings that told me it BELONGED there..OR it had once had something there...i've seen dilution canceled on ZAPZ for instance, but it got on the SHO because of planned dilution( which has been canceled)....
BTW? i think the managed accts are how the brokerage houses manipulate the big boards...
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well we got roger scammed UC for $250K, no records, money missing, mahoo is pissed, UC is on a 5th, auditor quit yesterday but never saw any records to start with. oh ya...frizzy said Trillions...reminds me of beavis & butthead, i can hear the cult giggling over it for the next 2 months. & i'm betting it will be 2 months before we hear another thing from anyone other then cult NS chit.
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Wasn't Rendell with one of the other JVs and not with UCAD (now USCA)? Thought Dhonau was UCAD/USCA. Could be wrong, but those companies not worth remembering.
"Bill was disappointed that the judge wouldn't admit evidence of NSS."
In short, about 5000 shareholders wasted $25.
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i do agree glass..the NSS problem is out of control. i have an insider connection to ZAPZ, they get the cars from my bro-in-law & they believe they have a good size NS problem still even tho off SHO. CMKX is the perfect NSS stock & the info today about records is why. if CMKX can bring the problem to the forefront, get it out into mass media, get the senate on board then i wont be here bashing but thanking them. it wont help cmkx's pps but it will help the rest of the penny world.
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How can Mahue be there for 4 months, being co-chairman and not know what the valuation of the company and didn't know the auditors weren't receiving records.
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ric, if they told him he'd have to take the 5th too..lol
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You fellows are doing a good job of picking this apart. I have to agree with many of your points and have to admit there are some troubling things here.
1. I believe Dvorak set up an accounting system in 2002/2003 and when he didn't get paid he left with the records. He still has them til payment is made.
Pay the man if you owe him. Should do that anyway.
2. I think UC doesn't keep commitments very well.
3. All they have are cancelled checks. A check is a record but without receipts it doesn't explain much.
4. If they get the filings the company may survive.
5. No mining expenses could be restated as no exploration expenses. I would like the question asked a different way.
6. I think some of the records are buried because UC doesn't want them to be seen.
Should I get out? What if there is real value and a short that must be covered or settled? Can I make money despite a shady relationship?
If I sold at a loss, what other could I buy to make good money? Lots to consider.
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Unbelievable! No one knows nothing. LOL! Money in accounts, where did that come from? I don't know. LOL How much money and how many shares changed hands in the CMKX UCAD deal, I don't recall? ...and I plead the 5th! Wa wa wa, I haven't been paid in two months, where's my $80K? I don't know if they hired me for my good name. LOL Share structure? What share structure, screw you, I plead the fith, REVOKE me, I'll take it to my grave. Still don't see how any NSS was proven, no one knows the share structure, UC might not own squat. debbie might own more than he does. There's Still over 350B unaccounted for, don't need to short this stock, UC took care of that.
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Paid an accountant 1.5 million dollars over 2 years of service and have no records or filings to show for it. Sounds like good money well spent to me. But as long as the house is paid for and the race team is paid then why worry about records.
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EVIDENCE OF A NAKED SHORT AND ALTERATION OF CUSIP NUMBERS, PRESENTED TO THE JUDGE TODAY, BY LAE, MUST BE TURNED OVER TO THE FBI WITHIN 24 HOURS
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: How can Mahue be there for 4 months, being co-chairman and not know what the valuation of the company and didn't know the auditors weren't receiving records.
He forgot, probably a little problem fo him
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That is what I believe also. The SEC attorneys have been made aware of a potential fraud and must respond. Because of the way this was done I am pretty certain they must report it.
Let's see what happens.
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I think the biggest problem will be filings. But no matter what, I think CMKX has two more problems that will bother the Judge. UC taking the fifth and the co-chairman not knowing nothing about the company. So how can she have pity on the company and believe they are working hard to file when its only two officers told her nothing and the CEO's wife is writing company checks when she supposed to have nothing to do with the company. The Judge asked why UC's wife name was on the checks of course no one knew because there is no records.
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What a circus Evita would be proud of these clowns.
I wonder if Urban remembers how he got the money to get the race car, bet he remembers how to get to the race track and spend our money
3 ring circus in LA, 3 clowns, Urban, Mahue & Roger.
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Another secret? I saw/heard no proof. Where is the share structure? Oh I know they can't share that information with shareholders, only the Judge and the FBI now. It's a criminal matter now. OK, I believe yas. You have till mid July to go on and on about this nonsense. All anyone ever asked is the company be forthright and forthcoming, now you see the reasons the weren't. You have nothing, there is little to no NSS. and I'll say that until it is proven otherwise by a reputable source.
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: EVIDENCE OF A NAKED SHORT AND ALTERATION OF CUSIP NUMBERS, PRESENTED TO THE JUDGE TODAY, BY LAE, MUST BE TURNED OVER TO THE FBI WITHIN 24 HOURS
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Someone that was there did say that the Judge made a joke about two small boxes. I guess all the records that could be found when asking the old auditor was in two boxes and I guess the SEC beat it to death for 15 minuted. So the Judge said so I guess there in two small boxes and the group chuckled. Can you imagine a public company fitting 2 years worth of records in two small boxes. lol
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