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And did rich grammer leave any of it to you? And if so, did you squander it away on CMKX? Poor grammer's probably rolling around in her grave.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: And did rich grammer leave any of it to you? And if so, did you squander it away on CMKX? Poor grammer's probably rolling around in her grave.
Maybe it was a few hundred thousand shares of CMKX.
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Grammer leaves Bill a hundred grand and Bill buys CMKX stock with it thinking it's going to be a million in no time. Grammer reaches out from the great beyond to give him a ghostly slap upside his head and tells him "Grandson you're an idiot, you're going to lose your entire investment, now go recoup some of it by becoming a paid basher." Bill says ok grammer, and the rest is history.
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quote:Originally posted by Tomil: I've been trying to sell for 4 months @ .0001 and I see highs going up to .0007/.0006. I'm not getting it?
Those are fat fingered typos and are usually, I think, reversed. The real prices are .00007/.00006. If you're really wanting out of this I think the .00006 price is about the best you're going to get.
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: This is fun. I'm sure gonna miss this thread after July.....LOL
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Hi all Here is a repost from another board that has a link to some cmkm messages from a few years ago. ------------------------------------------------
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The oldest post in CMKX recorded history? « Thread Started on Today at 6:33pm »
By: jjjp76 28 Feb 2003, 06:50 PM EST Msg. 2 of 986755 Jump to msg. # Im number 2.....em ---------------------------------------
Makes some interesting reading and shows how little has actually changed with the company. There is even a post advising U.C. to use poor management as an excuse if he is ever hauled before the sec. lol
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Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
Actually Ric, "poli" used for "many" is Greek.
The Latin, "poli" means slowly.
But that happens when you use Robin Williams for a source.
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upside, just for your info...not a dime...dad & uncles got every penny & since i know my dad...its gone by now...lol. i agree with missing this tread when its gone. only 3 possible 4 events left to debate...stocleins reply (if we ever see it), frizzy's reply & the judges final gaval. possibly a fourth in the final total of shares found from frizzy. then of course there will be a few yrs of the cult predicting when UC rides in on the white horse to save the day. of course there will be a few that put the CMKX certs in their will because UC's grandson will be the one to fix everything. it took so long because debeers was still mining in the area & they had to wait till debeers left so they couldn't find out was CMKX was doing.
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FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST DENIED BY SEC
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com
Dear Group Members, June 9, 2005
I have posted a letter that we sent to Charles Schwab today. It can be seen at www.cmkxownersgroup.com We are including a list of companies that will be receiving a similar letter today or tomorrow. We are receiving a lot of feedback from members that suggests many brokerage houses are troubled by their short positions. Accordingly, we are inquiring specifically about any problems in CMKX stock to the brokerage houses listed in our NOBO.
We have received a total rejection of the FOIA request which was made through the SEC. I am preparing an appeal of that request as provided by statute. It is necessary to pursue all administrative remedies before filing suit. I should have the appeal finished tomorrow and will post it along with the rejection letter.
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I hope that they can bust the NSS issue open. I just see the stocks they are using as non winners to combat the issue. But really, what will happen if there is a short? The stock is going to be revoked. The people that do this illegal practice are low lives from off shore. The DTCC might be held liable for letting it happen but at worst would have to cover loses in a class action suit. But by the time a good enough lawyer could get a settlement he would get most of the money.
But still no NSS has been proven. Until UC releases the structure of the o/s then as far as anyone knows the float could be 700 billion. Which then no NSS will be proven. The nobo/obo list shows an avg. of 10 billion shares for the holders on the list. And if thats right then the 50-60k shareholders own 500-600 billion shares. So for there to be NSS then Insiders have to own more then the 100-200billion shares that are left. And I am not sure they do. Maybe but even if they did still own 51% then the short is only a couple 100 billion shares which by percentage may not be able to force any settlement at all since the stock will be revoked anyway. JMHO
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Ric, you realize that if the 50-60K shareholders own 500 to 600 billion shares, that the laws (as far as I know) require a shareholder meeting and vote. Exceptions might be with a spcl Pfd or other methods giving control over to Insiders. However, even there, to have made the exception, maybe UC violated laws by not going to shareholders. The way that clown has performed to date, I would not put anything beyond him.
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I still think that UC used the Jan 2003 legal opinion to vote 51% without a shareholders meeting. I think that when insiders (JV's) did own majority they gave written consent to UC to vote 51% under the 51% written consent law in Nevada. And UC has been using it ever since. Whether it is illegal or not, I think thats what happened. Or he issued preferred shares that wasn't made public. Either way, I really don't think he and the insiders hold 51% anymore. They may and if so then there is around 853 billion shares out there. Around 500 billion in float and 353 billion to UC and insiders. But thats the max I see for those pushing NSS in this stock. But still think there may not be and UC and insiders no longer have a 51% hold on the company.
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what reason would anyone cover a NS? the first thing the DTC will say is 703 billion shares. who screwed the shareholder the most? the NS or the company? they will point to the lack of any financials, illegal shares sold, lack of any serious exploration of the claims, the complete disreguard for keeping shareholders informed. if they are proven to be largely ns'ed all they will end up paying it at the most .0002 per share. the real trouble will be the partners, if the claims are in CMKX's name what happens to their share of the claims? you've got 5 or 6 companies that own a piece.
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I think the DTCC will play dumb. Say we didn't know if it was the company illegally selling the shares. With the company dumping shares like they where, how could we know that NS shares were being sold. I agree bill, I don't see any money ever coming out of this.
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Anybody notice that since UC got his private lawyer not only did he take the 5th at the hearing, he has keep his trap shut to the shareholders too.
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The reason why the Judge will revoke CMKX is exactly the same reason people are arguing on this board. UC refuses to give anyone information on the company or the share structure. We can set here and guess if UC still holds 51% or not. If the float is 300 billion or 700 billion. No one really knows. If there is no filings the Judge will have no other choice but to revoke since the CEO refuses to talk.
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we will never know what UC or any insiders own other then mahoo...zero in his case. as came out in court they are no where near & have never been close to filing. if UC ever had any intention of filing he would have hired an auditor before the SEC started calling. i'll bet frizzy doesn't even know the float. the only hope in getting any info is either the shareholders sueing UC or the SEC bringing criminal charges & not excepting a plea bargin from UC's personal lawyers. i bet stocklein phones in the reply to the SEC report. i bet its just a formality with no real disagreement to any of the SEC charges. they will file something but it will only be a half hearted pile of meanless words. frizzy's report will give a clue to the final total of scammed shareholders. if he is at 8000 copies of broker statements then about 48,000 shareholders have either sold for what they could get or wrote it off as a loss. next week should bring the 2 replies to the SEC, might be interesting.
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By: pedro20040 10 Jun 2005, 09:42 AM EDT Msg. 989453 of 989481 Jump to msg. # According to the Frizzell Letters, the NOBO OBO list contains the following shares (held in street name).
01 ~~~ AG Edwards & Sons, Inc. --------------- 862,787,979 02 ~~~ American Express --------------- 1,359,924,430 03 ~~~ Ameritrade, Inc. --------------- 180,519,376,324 04 ~~~ Bear Stearns Securities Corp. --------------- 2,094,241,869 05 ~~~ Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. --------------- 19,550,268,348 06 ~~~ Citigroup Global Markets --------------- 2,144,066,194 07 ~~~ Computer Clearing Services, Inc. --------------- 4,023,041,171 08 ~~~ Etrade Securities, LLC. --------------- 106,935,010,685 09 ~~~ First Clearing --------------- 8,119,429,767 10 ~~~ Fisery Securities, Inc --------------- 5,973,547,200 11 ~~~ Goldman Sachs Execution & Clearing --------------- 400,231,367 12 ~~~ H&R Block Financial Advisors --------------- 659,821,122 13 ~~~ J.J.B. Hilliard, W. L. Kyins, Inc. --------------- 638,706,563 14 ~~~ Janet Montgomery Scott, LLC. --------------- 767,255,128 15 ~~~ Morgan Keegan & Co., Inc. --------------- 321,889,760 16 ~~~ National Financial Services, LLC. --------------- 25,936,578,884 17 ~~~ National Investors Services --------------- 17,730,564,333 18 ~~~ Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. --------------- 486,420,697 19 ~~~ Penson Financial Services --------------- 7,312,599,629 20 ~~~ Pershing, LLC. --------------- 21,177,483,699 21 ~~~ Primevest Financial Services, Inc. --------------- 424,083,633 22 ~~~ RBC Dain Rauscher, Inc. --------------- 1,165,080,658 23 ~~~ Scottrade, Inc. --------------- 2,308,471,541 24 ~~~ Southwest Securities, Inc. --------------- 2,491,664,196 25 ~~~ Wells Fargo Investments, LLC. --------------- 1,931,584,426 26 27 ~~~ Total --------------- 415,334,129,603
According to the CMKX Form 8K filed on March 14, 2005 ~~ CMKX stated there were 407 Billion Shares held in street name.
And when we subtract the shares that have been reported on the Frizzell Letters:
Total Shares per Frizzell NOBO List --------------- 415,334,129,603
Total Electronic (CEDE) Shares --------------- (407,321,106,308)
Short Position --------------- 8,013,023,295
If anyone is holding shares in a brokerage company not listed above, please name the company.
Brokerage Companies missing from the above list:
Ameritrade Canada, Inc. TDW Waterhouse, Inc. TDW Waterhouse Canada, Inc.
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Well, CEDE number changes a little every day depending on who is selling and buyin. Plus the 97 billion left in a/s may have been sold, who knows. Because UC refuses to keep us informed. But no proof of any major NSS there like the trillions that is being passed off. I think everyone figured some shorting occured. Thats normal for any stock. As I said yesterday, I guessed around 500 billion. If you add the brokers not listed it would probably come close to what I guessed. So if 407 billion is what it should be then we are 97 billion off or what is left in a/s. Hum, thats very interesting.
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the insider shares are not in CEDE unless they violate more SEC rules, which in cmkx's case doesn't seem to be a problem. any insider shares would be held in their name & recorded in their name.
by the way wallace a old cmkx friend said hi on another board a svt-cobra...i guess they dont like me much over there not to happy with you either wallace. i was just told to get out...lol
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just got a reply from my senator...by the way i did not vote for this clown & this letter proves why. not once does it mention anything to do with NSS. but it does prove what we have been saying about CMKX being the posterchild for NNS. you cant hold up a won't report, wont be honest company. washington will not listen. by the way sen. levin is a Democrat.
Dear Mr. Nardin:
Thank you for contacting me about the need to improve corporate accountability, restore investor faith in our markets, and properly punish those who commit corporate crimes. While I am pleased that Congress has passed a number of reforms to punish corporate misconduct and protect shareholders and workers from future abuses, I believe more must be done.
The stunning collapse of Enron, WorldCom and a growing list of other companies has called into question many aspects of corporate governance that were previously taken for granted, including the accuracy of companies' financial statements, the independence of outside auditors, and the reliability of employees' 401(k) retirement funds. It is clear that the mechanisms designed to protect investors and workers were insufficient to dissuade corporate management in some companies from engaging in deceptive financial reporting and other abuses.
I supported the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (P.L.107-204), also referred to as the Public Company Accounting Reform and Investor Protection Act of 2002, which Congress passed and the President signed into law. This law, which includes some provisions contained in a bill I previously introduced, establishes new criminal laws designed to punish corporate malfeasance; sets up a new audit oversight board not under industry control; imposes new limits to stop auditing firms from providing certain consulting services to the companies they audit; provides new, independent funding for the board that sets accounting rules; and requires Chief Executive Officers and Chief Financial Officers of publicly traded corporations to personally certify the accuracy of their companies' financial statements.
While this will go a long way toward protecting investors in the future, it is not enough.
For the past ten years, I have fought to require companies to account honestly for the stock options they give to executives and other employees by showing them as expenses on their financial statements. Current law allows a company to distort its true financial condition by keeping the cost of stock options buried in a footnote and outside the companies' earnings calculations. Companies frequently award large amounts of stock options to top executives because they are viewed as cost-free. These awards encourage corporate executives to artificially inflate their companies' stock price by manipulating company financial statements. To address these problems, in January 2003, I introduced the Stock Option Accounting Review Act (S.181) with Senator McCain (R-AZ), which would direct the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) to conduct a fresh review of the accounting treatment of stock options and take appropriate action within one year. S.181 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs. Senator McCain and I also introduced the Ending the Double Standard for Stock Options Act (S.182), which would require companies to treat stock options on their tax returns the exact same way they treat them on their financial statements. S.182 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Finance. Since the introduction of these bills, FASB has announced that in 2004 it intends to issue a new accounting standard to require companies to treat stock option pay as an expense on their financial statements.
Additionally, over the past several years, we have been hearing more and more about corporations using offshore tax havens to avoid paying their fair share of U.S. taxes. One of the most egregious abuses is when a U.S. corporation reincorporates in a no tax or low tax jurisdiction offshore, while keeping the company’s primary management and production facilities in the U.S. By creating shell headquarters in tax haven jurisdictions like Bermuda, companies that were once American corporations and still do a significant amount of work in the U.S., can avoid paying billions of dollars in American taxes. To limit such abuses, on February 12, 2003, Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) and I introduced the Corporate Patriot Enforcement Act (S.384). This bill would deny future tax benefits to U.S. companies that use such havens in this way by continuing to treat them as U.S. companies for tax purposes. S.384 would not only level the playing field between these companies and their U.S. competitors, but would also save other U.S. taxpayers from having to pick up an estimated $4.9 billion in tax revenues over the next 10 years. S.384 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Finance. Representative Neal (D-MA) has introduced an identical bill in the House of Representatives (H.R.737).
Also, I introduced the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Civil Enforcement Act (S.183) with Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL). This bill would strengthen the ability of the SEC to detect, investigate, and punish corporate and individual violations of the federal securities laws. It would grant the SEC administrative authority to impose civil monetary fines on any person who violates federal securities laws including, for example, corporate officers, directors, auditors, lawyers, or publicly traded companies, none of whom are now subject to SEC administrative fines. It would also significantly increase the maximum civil administrative fines that the SEC could impose on persons who violate federal securities laws. Finally, it would grant the SEC new administrative authority to subpoena financial records without having to notify the subject that such a records request has been made, thereby bringing the SEC's subpoena authority into alignment with the authority of federal banking agencies like the Federal Reserve and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. I am pleased that my colleagues in the Senate adopted the provisions of S.183 in the Charity, Aid, Recovery, and Empowerment Act (CARE Act, S.476). While the House of Representatives did not include similar language in its version of the CARE Act, it is my hope that it will be included in the final version of the bill that is worked out in conference so that these common sense SEC provisions can soon be signed into law.
Investor confidence in U.S. capital markets has not been fully restored, and Congress needs to provide strong leadership to assure U.S. investors that their interests are protected. I will continue to support legislation to meet this goal.
Sincerely, Carl Levin
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Sounds like a master of gobbledegook to me....good politician, uses several paragraphs to say nothing at all. Kinda reminds me of CMKX PRs....LOL
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Plus, if UC and company knew they were not going to file anyway, and knew that they will probably get revoked. Then why would they continue to hold shares. They could be dumping there shares if they actually had any every since the halt. Already rumors that the claims are being transferred. The stock gets revoked and if there is no claims then its worth nothing. So why would he continue to hold shares. Since the cult seems to run theories, heres one to ponder. As stated UC doesn't seem to care to break rules like selling insider shares without reporting them. He hasn't reported any buys or sells of shares so far so why start now.
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