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Upside, it is nearly done. But your definition of "done" is no doubt different than mine. You believe that what appears "obvious" is always fact. Folks like Glenn, Stoecklein and Mahue don't get into a company like CMKX for a few bucks and a blemish on their records. They know tactics, legal maneuvers, and "psy ops". And all are in play with this company.
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Obvious isn't always fact but in this case it appears that it is. Look at the SEC's brief. It's pretty damaging. They discuss Mr. Mahue at length and it certainly appears that he is in fact being used to lend an air of credibility. He knows nothing about the company and if he's holding back for some reason, it's only going to hurt their case. Urban pleading the fifth was also discussed and the judge can only determine that it's for negative reasons. As you said earlier, this is just one side of the story and we're yet to see CMKX's side but I can't imagine how they're going to rebut all of these allegations.
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hello I am new in this community, them greeting from Argentinean I do not know anything this company. if somebody is so amiable to briefly tell in that situation this this company me and as they are the future perspective thank you very much
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As far as the form 15, I think the fact that they stated on the form 15 "as of the certification or notice date" which was 7/17/2003 is where they messed up. They basically said they had about 300 as of 7/17/2003 which was a lie. When "as of that date" they had 698 and knew they had over 360 as of Feb. 2003 because they issued share to that many people.
Now if they had said as of the last filings, maybe they could have won the arguement in law as stated by phxgold. But by stating "as of that date" of the filing of the form 15 when UC certifed it then they made a mistake. Whether you feel that mistake shouldn't matter or not. The SEC feels they lied because they knew they issued to more shareholders earlier that year. The "as of that date" is what killed them.
Its all in the wording. Phxgold may be right in the letter of the law but since it was a statement of present made on the form 15 then the SEC is saying cmkx lied on the form 15 thus making the form 15 invalid. No matter if they could have filed it or not.
From form 15:
Approximate number of holders of record as of the certification or notice date: 300
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Inc. has caused this certification/notice to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned duly authorized person.
Date: 07/17/03 By:/s/Urban Casavant Urban Casavant, President
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Legal she did say that NSS would not be used as evidence during the hearing. She did let Frizzle talk about it but she made it clear that it would not be entered as evidence. She was interested in knowing about the problem but said this was a filing issue. You better go back and read the post that came out of the hearing. That was the first thing said that NSS was not of this hearing.
As far as the next mornings meeting it was just a time frame issue for when each had to submit there rebuttals. Its like all other things that come out by the cult. Its starts as rumor and ends up fact when its not. The next days meeting never was a NSS meeting, it was the cults assumption.
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The cult is forgetting one VERY important word. One that will be used over and over as this unfolds.
That word is "immaterial". NSS is immaterial. UC's inept business practices are immaterial. Maheu is immaterial.
All that matter is "Has the law been broken?" THAT is material.
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well i worked last nite thus missed the SEC responce...just finished reading it & legals responce..where is dr d & a few of the others comments legal??? Legal i mean this in a nice way...GET YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR AZZ!!!!!!! you post 2 things that will allow a company to file form 15 ok lets look at them...300 shareholders...6 months before filing that form 15 UC gave 360 ppl 1 billion shares in cert form. that 360 number does not include UC or any family that already had shares. it does not include any ppl that bought cmkx from their brokers. these were 360 ppl given shares on 1 day yet 6 months later UC says in form 15 we have less then 300 shareholders. never calls the t/a. does nothing to indicate he even checked to make sure this statement was the truth. can you say SCAM, LIES, CHEATING, STEALING??? i think the SEC worded this point in a very kind way. ok the second point in filing a form 15...more then 300 shareholders but less then $10 million in assets...we proved UC knew he had 300 plus shareholders so $10 million needs to be proven...Jade collection comes to mind...a $56 million jade collection that nobody knows where it went. in court it was stated that 1/2 was not bought but the second may have been but still not sure where it went. in mid-2004 they had 2 deals that gave them $13 million in cash. your $10 million is passed by without adding in the claims. the same claims that for the last 2 yrs the cult has called the greatest diamond find in the world history. the same claims that were to make 400 billion shares worth $1 per share. if they weren't worth $10 million dollars i'd say your 400 billion shares were in trouble let alone 703 billion shares. so again Legal, as someone from the other side of a debate i say without malace...GET YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR AZZ!!!!
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well fellow bashers...us "merry men"...we have 1 month left of this entertainment. seriously, we need to find another cmkx & move there..lol. i dislike the fact that in being correct so many ppl will lose hard earned money. the cult has pumped this & UC has dumped this to a point that 56K will lose cash. thats never a good thing or a good thought. that doesnt include those that bought & sold out losing cash like myself. i find it hard to believe its possible but if they can prove a NS that is huge & help correct the problem then maybe it will be worth the cash in the long run. but cmkx is done. i am curious as to stockleins responce to this SEC post trial thing. notice how most of the SEC's proof never got to us? not even frizzy gave out the info. the fact that UC gave 360 ppl shares 6 months before the form 15 was never mentioned. wanna bet the o/s is now 800 billion?? that is if UC could find a mm to sell the shares...lol
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Man, they'll kill you over on th QBID thread. lil hangs out there, and besides bill likes QBID. LOL
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hey UpMan, did you notice a hint of sobriety in legals last few posts? Wonder how Dr D is gonna spin those charges. You know he has to like that the SEC is geting more aggressive, probably means a HUGE buyout offer is coming soon. OH! Excuse me, did I say buyout? I meant settlement. lol What a bunch !
Citi-Group !!!
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Anyone check out Wee Willy Wanker and the Whackos lately?
I can't imagine what the heck they'll be saying now. I know it has to be good though.
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Penny stocks are easy to bash. So damn few of them ever do anything.
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beyond all the criminal actions by UC the even more criminal action is that 1 or more of those claim sections might just have a kimberlite pipe worth mining. shore gold proves debeers missed at least 1. UC was able to bring in partner companies to help the search & exploration costs so it wasn't all on cmkx's shoulders to foot the bill. when the o/s was 500 million the pps had value. if in the process of exploration they found serious targets even if cmkx was being NS'ed they could have gotten more money or enough to move forward with the partners cash. proof of a possible find would have backed off ns'ing parties because they never want to cover, thus showing cmkx was real & might have value would remove the going under feel & thus held up the pps to at least a point of getting cash for shares. instead according to the SEC report as soon as CMKX was under complete control of UC everything ended except printing shares & pumping the stock. the 8K backs up the fact that very little was done to seach for diamonds. it seems to me from reading that SEC report there would be grounds for criminal charges after CMKX is shut down. its the only way the full story will ever see the light of day & because of the cult screaming NS it will hurt the cause because the DTC & NS'ing factions will have CMKX as a prime example of a scam company that screams NS when in fact they screw the stockholders by dumping shares into the market.
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Bill, makes me wonder if they ever intended to look for diamonds. Evidently they did very little to find anything. All I see so far is a bunch of untradeable restricted stocks that may or may not ever be worth anything. I would really like to see somebody explain all this without using (IMO). If it takes a lawsuit to accomplish that, then so be it. Makes ya go hmmmmmmmm......
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COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
Equity Bridges Financial Relations: CMKM Diamonds Inc. (CMKX: OTC.PK), IBAC Corporation (ICAN: OTC.PK), Prime Rate Investors Inc. (PRRM: OTC.PK), Universal Express Inc. (USXP: OTC.BB), EagleTech Communications Inc. (EATC: OTC.PK) with 5 Senate Leaders now seeking answers about the selling of counterfeit securities in our markets, it is time that we as citizens help educate the world about this crime!
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According to Cancio, the five senate leaders pledging their support to demand justice for this crime are senators: Bob Bennett, Richard Shelby, Richard Durbin, Susan Collins and James Talent. More senators and members of congress are requesting support and education from the American public on this matter every day.
A very large group of citizens are going to march in front of the SEC building in Washington D.C. and demand answers. Why is the counterfeiting of securities being allowed to take place every single day in our markets? Shareholders of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX: OTC.PK) will be one of the largest groups in attendance on both days. This company's shareholders have united together to help their company obtain undisputable proof of counterfeit securities being sold to them and stored in their portfolios for them by their brokers. "On Tuesday, June 7th we will be loading our buses with citizens and taking them with us to New York City to rally in front of the NASDAQ building on Times Square" said one of the organizers, according to Fuego Entertainment.
Recently IBAC Corporation (ICAN: OTC.PK) and Prime Rate Investors Inc. (PRRM: OTC.PK) urged their shareholders to request their shares be sent to them in certificate form over the possibility of naked short selling of their common stock.
Universal Express Inc. (USXP: OTC.BB) has recently stated publicly that the SEC has ignored, denied and attempted to cover-up the 'naked short selling' scandal. Universal Express and others have been courageously exposing the issuance of trillions of counterfeit shares as a violation of criminal statutes and a destruction of public trading confidence.
On April 6th 2005 Rodney E. Young President and CEO of Eagletech Communications, Inc. (EATC: OTC.PK) writes to First Deputy General Counsel Larry Thompson of the DTCC about the largest breach of public trust in history stating: "Dear Mr. Thompson: I wish to remind you that on March 4, 2005 Eagletech Communications, Inc.'s attorneys announced the ruling of the Supreme Court of the state of New York, wherein the DTCC was compelled to produce the company's trading records Today, more than one month later, the records have not been forthcoming as ordered by the court. Instead, as First Deputy General Counsel for the DTCC, I believe you have undertaken a campaign to disseminate misinformation, lies, and half-truths when confronted with facts made public by your detractors." Recently I have spoken with Mr. Young and he still has yet to receive his trading records. Why I ask does Rodney and his shareholders get the song and dance attitude ? Does the DTCC have something to hide ?
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FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com
Dear Group Members, June 3, 2005
My apologies to any of you that may have been waiting on the posting of our letter to TD Waterhouse Canada. I was unable to complete the letter today due to some other matters that needed attention. Many of you have probably read the brief filed by the SEC today. There are many issues that I am currently working on which will be revealed in our response. We are continuing our mailout campaign and our work on the verification of the outstanding stock. We sent out over 1,000 letters today. I have decided not to disclose our share count on a regular basis because the count changes significantly sometimes by the hour. You can rest assured I am pleased with the results of our work so far. There are also strategic reasons for not making our numbers public.
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"There are also strategic reasons for not making our numbers public."
Where have I heard that load of crap before. LOL
Here fishy, fishy, fishy !
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frizzy will be allowed to respond but only to show any proof of a NS & that has nothing to do with the SEC charges. frizzy is not there for cmkx but the shareholders. his responce should be to sue UC for lying & cheating investors all of which was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt & in a civil action proof does not need to be that strong. he may need to keep quiet on that in the hopes that proving the NS will cause some sort of cash for shareholders but as a lawyer he has to know cmkx is gone. once cmkx is shut down & as the SEC pointed out there is no continued trading on pinks, getting any cash for cmkx shareholders will be much harder as the only place those shares show up are in accounts of the bagholders. 41 days left till the curtain closes & the lawsuits start.
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bill, I would wager CMKX is not shorted to any large extent. I've said it all along, with 703B shares no reason to short and if they did, not hard to have covered. No NSS ! No Settlement! No Buy out! No CMKX! No Nothing! It's just that simple. These spin Doctors were living in their own little world seeing how many gullible people thay could take down with them. You feel bad for them. Well, I feel bad for the unsuspecting, but those like Willy, Dr. D, and that ilk, I don't. I don't even feel sorry for the next tier of pumpers, like legal, and WWJD debbie. They were so cocksure of themselves, and still are. Only a fool would have invested large amounts of $ in this stock, and to refuse to recognize the realities of it makes me think they are getting what they deserve. If that seems hateful and judgemental, so-be-it, but they influenced and hurt a lot of other unsuspecting people with their stubborness and refusal to listen to common sense and logic. .....and when the revocation comes, ( which it surely will), they still won't give it up. They will start another recruiting process asking people to join a OG that will want to sue the wrong the parties. They will influence people to lose more, they will never be happy, they will never admit it's over and they were wrong. Sorry, buddy, I say, JUST DESERTS to them.
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Have any of you bothered to figure out how many shares of CMKX stock that missing $24 million dollars would have bought? Next question is, "Where did that stock go?"
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Have any of you bothered to figure out how many shares of CMKX stock that missing $24 million dollars would have bought? Next question is, "Where did that stock go?"
PS: If it went for under .0001, that could account for the increase of 300 billion shs to 800 billion, huh?
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At this stage, does it make any difference, 703B or 800B ? Probably took advantage of his last chance to line his pockets and dumped the 97B. Wasn't that one of the theories, to catch the MM's in a NSS squeze, or to help them mitigate the amount of $'s they would have to spend covering. Some ridiculous nonsense posted by legal. He released the 97B at a negotiated price, yada yada, yada, I'm sure you remember the bullchit theory. I think they assigned the 97B negotiated settlement to Iron Bob, who knows nothing about anything, sept he's short $80K.
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What I think is funny about this whole thing is the fact that no one in the cult believes the SEC. That the SEC has wrongly attacked this innocent penny stock for no reason what so ever. Or as some think for some grand conspiracy to trap shorty. Thats right, the SEC does this all the time, lol. Attacks poor little companies for no reason or to cover up. This has to be the most silly thing that I have ever heard. Then they say, we don't want the SEC to protect us. Well, the SEC has to worry about protecting all investors not ones that refuse to believe they were wronged. The SEC sees it as they warned you as of March about this company and you had time to get out. If you stayed and didn't want to believe what they told you about this stock then its not there fault.
GET REAL PEOPLE.
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No one over at CNES wants to read, I believe. There last 10Q clearly stated they were broke and losing money. And would have to continue giving shares to officers and creditors to pay the bills. Which basically says we will continue to dilute shares.
I know we only doubled our o/s last quarter alone to pay bills but that wont happen again right???? We only said we would have to continue to dilute just as a joke. Won't people learn anything from cmkx, prrm and others. Once the company see how easy it is to make money on the shareholders back there is no turning back.
quote:Originally posted by stnkng1: cnes has a few weeks and IMHO i think it will be at a strong level of .002 again.
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CNES, maybe that should be the next thread to visit after we bury this dead dog.
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4/7/2003 : LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 7, 2003
Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Las Vegas (OTCBB:CMKM), management today announced that it has cancelled the acquisition of the ancient Chinese jade collection as previously stated in CMKM's 14c, which stated on Dec. 30, 2002, the company acquired $50 million dollars worth of ancient Chinese jade for 500 million shares of common stocks of the corporation. The cancellation was reached by mutual agreement by both parties.
This is one of many steps made by Casavant Mining in an effort to streamline operations and continue the company's focus on the diamond exploration.
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"This is one of many steps made by Casavant Mining in an effort to streamline operations and continue the company's focus on the diamond exploration." --------------------
The above is a very good example of the stupidity running CMKX. As though cancelling the jade deal would have anything to do with streamlining operations!!!
How about cancelling racing in order to streamline operations as well?
Or cancelling all those deals with other companies in SA, etc. in order to focus on diamond exploration?
Or cancelling conflicts of interest to concentrate on diamond exploration?
Whether that announcement came from Urban Casavant or from Maheu, it is shows everyone the level of intelligence running Casavant Mining. My guess is it came from the brilliant mind of UC!
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Wallace thats 120 billion at .0002 so the final total depends on when sold of course nobody knows who it was sold too.
legal you say stocklein, glenn & mahoo would not lend their name to a scam...did you read the SEC report?? or did you just skim it looking for NS stuff??? march 2005 pr says new offices gives addy...a hot rod shop & cmkx lawyers..stocklein say well let just fake it & they then act like they moved in but really only went in & talked to Shawn...glenn ran from cmkx, stocklein is a lawyer...lawyer take a defendant...any defendant & do what ever is needed to get that defendant off...i give you OJ, Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson as examples, 1 walked, 1 will cook & 1 is waiting the verdict & all 3 are guilty. as for mahoo when asked in court he didn't know if cmkx had any offices, anything about liabilities, assets, employees, what they did or how they did it. he thought the fianacal work had started & only learned in court the accountants still hadn't got any paperwork needed to start. from this where do you get the idea he had any clue as to what he was getting into? an 80 yr old man was given $40K a month, thats $2000 a day to do what? not know that the job he was to get done, get cmkx filed up to date, had not started because of no paperwork?? UC gave an old man the song & dance & $40K a month made him look away. wanna bet Mahoo is gone now? just like glenn once he got into the company's real problems and past UC's mouth running.
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