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If CMKX had not provided any information to the Auditor Levine, why would they call him as a witness? And it was CMKX that called him, not the SEC?
Second question, if there are no financial records available for the company, how did they file their corporate Federal taxes each of the last several years? With all of the govt. agencies watching CMKX and Casavant, wouldn't you think Urban would already be in jail for evasion if this hadn't been done?
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I don't think Levine would risk his reputation by telling lies in court. They audit public records for a living. I think UC has lied to everyone even Stoecklein. He had his own private lawyer with him getting him to take the fifth. Like I said in my post last night. I think UC is blowing smke up a lot of people. Even Mahue. Telling them what they want to hear and giving them nothing. So in the end he can blame everyone else for being incompetant. Even the account from Stoecklein got up and said she wasn't getting no records. I really think Casavant has the records myself. Just afraid to let anyone see them because his scam would be revealed. UC is trying to save his azz right now and is why he took the fifth. I think he is a great con man. Hiring people to take the fall and playing dumb.
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Regardkess bill, if Levine had been given no records, why would the company call him as a witness?
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With UC taking the fifth, and UC refusing to give anyone records, I think it boils down to one thing. They file by June 30th or not. The Judge will have to revoke no matter what if they don't. She has no reason to believe that thy are going to file when the CEO want tell her anything and the auditors are telling her that they are getting no records. She already said NSS is not going to be allowed in for this case before her. MAybe she is interested in the numbers but to determine criminal charges or not.
Remember that the Judge asked the one auditor from the law group how long would it take to get ting a filing complete and she said one month if she got the records. I think thats why the June 30th deadline. I know she said 90 days to have them certified but the Judge doesn't care about that, just the filing being done.
File or be revoked, June 30, 2005
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Legal, your only post for the day, huh? Only one question, and you can answer it anytime you feel like it. If we are to wait for PRs from the company, why dont they issue some to stop all the speculation. They are quiet, and I dont believe the SEC has anything to do with it. They could tell us something other than fluff anytime they want. So what's the holdup?
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Oh, I'll probably have some more posts today ed. Actually there were two questions. Still waiting for answers.
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BTW, many are posting that D Roger Glenn didn't do anything for the company since he only turned in a one page letter. If any think that that is all he gave the company, please know that over 8 months, one piece of paper would not cover the billing statement, not to mention the Sask meeting, the Ecuador trip, and the dividend issues.
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I am sure he did legal and they are probably with all the other records that UC can't find. I have already said I think RG is just another scapegoat in UC disception.
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As long as it's Q & A day at Allstocks, why did the SEC prevent valuation information from being given when CMKX was trying to establish it? Hmmmm, was that in the shareholders best interest?
Frizzell: "It was frustrating to see the judge exclude Mr. Stoecklein’s offer of evidence of the evaluation of various properties. Ed Dhonau was to testify about the value of the claims in Canada and the value of the gold mining operations in Ecuador."
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: I am sure he did legal and they are probably with all the other records that UC can't find. I have already said I think RG is just another scapegoat in UC disception.
Betting RG would not be anyone's "scapegoat" if it was damaging his reputation.
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Because the CEO took the fiffth and Ed would only be speculating. Even they said that. If UC wanted to state valuation then that would be alright. They even asked Mahue about some value and he said I don't know.
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I would think they would have asked him some qualifying questions before "disqualifying" him. I am sure the SEC, like so many others, know that Ed Dhonau is a major player in this company. In the pursuit of "truth and justice" (LOL) by the shareholders' government "champion", I think the exploration of valuation would have been good from any source that closely connected with the company. How would valuation information have been prejudicial to a charge of lack of filing.
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AFter all that has happened since the new year, this whole thing could be muted by one good PR. Instead, UC acts like he doesnt have a clue, and he probably doesnt. We are still mushrooms, and I have now set a date when I will sell what is left for whatever I can get, and move on to greener pastures. Scam of a lifetime to me, until the fat guy does something to prove me wrong. And I'm not talking about fluff PRs, or Andy telling us to hang in. I'm done hanging in. And if I ever get an email or announcement that we are suing the clown, it will take less than 60 seconds to write a check.
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: AFter all that has happened since the new year, this whole thing could be muted by one good PR. Instead, UC acts like he doesnt have a clue, and he probably doesnt. We are still mushrooms, and I have now set a date when I will sell what is left for whatever I can get, and move on to greener pastures. Scam of a lifetime to me, until the fat guy does something to prove me wrong. And I'm not talking about fluff PRs, or Andy telling us to hang in. I'm done hanging in. And if I ever get an email or announcement that we are suing the clown, it will take less than 60 seconds to write a check.
I think that we will get that e-mail to start a law suit after June 30th. I will also get on board with that one. I hope that in addition to Urban, that we go after Melvin, Andrew, Glenn, Green Baron and all those poster who have pumped this stock and keep pumping
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Geez now these are angry investors, who lost their money. Sorry for the long post but thought that it was an interesting article.
Sacramento Bee May 12 2005
Man Arrested In Ploy To Torture Investor
A Sacramento man who agreed to abduct and torture an overseas investor on behalf of a man hired by 19 clients was arrested after he solicited the help of an undercover sheriff's detective, law enforcement officials said Wednesday. The plot, thwarted on the eve it was supposed to have been carried out, was designed to elicit the investor's overseas account numbers and his personal identification number so the clients could retrieve millions of dollars they had invested, Sacramento County sheriff's officials said.
The investor's clients are members of an international church, described in Internet chat rooms as a cult, that requires members to relieve themselves of their worldly possessions. Instead of turning them over to the church or charitable organizations, investigators believe, the investor's clients apparently were trying to hide their possessions in unmarked overseas accounts.
The intended victim, a financial investment adviser from Oregon, is not being named by officials because they are continuing to investigate the case. He acknowledged to detectives that he had made "bad investments" and had gotten "greedy," according to Sacramento Sheriff's Detective Mike Wright.
Wright, who went undercover to pose as an accomplice to the planned abduction, was tipped to the plan by a Sacramento private investigator who said he had been contacted by a former business colleague - Kevin Westman - for help in an abduction.
The private investigator, who is described only as a confidential informant in case papers, introduced Wright to Westman and then set up several telephone conversations so the three could plan out the specifics of the kidnapping planned for April 22.
Westman, 41, said he had been hired by a San Diego private investigator, William Lindsay Calder, 52, to kidnap the Oregon man and take him to a "safe house" where he would be tortured by the three men in an attempt to get information from him, Wright said.
Calder allegedly gave specific instructions on how to bind the intended victim, with duct tape, and how to immobilize him with a stun gun.
Westman and Calder face charges of soliciting to commit a crime when they appear in court on Tuesday. They are being held in Sacramento County jail in lieu of $1 million bail.
"(Westman) said he was working with a group of mercenaries from San Diego who were working with the investors and they were working to recover the money," Wright said. "He described methods of torture and ways of extracting information from the intended victim," including a polygraph machine and a shocking device.
The financial adviser was expected to drive from his Oregon home to visit his daughter in San Diego, stopping in Sacramento to meet with a woman who had been trying to get her money back from him, Wright said.
The woman, although a member of the same church, was not among the 19 investors who hired Calder. The Oregon man also was a longtime member of the church, Wright said.
"I don't think she knowingly set him up because she's been trying to have meetings with our victim for months," Wright said. And he's been putting her off because he doesn't have any of (her) paperwork anymore, and he's not going to give her back the money."
Westman told his accomplices that they would be holding their would-be victim for about seven hours - until "an information extraction team" arrived from San Diego to take charge of the man.
On April 21, hours before the plot was to be set in motion, Wright and other detectives arrested Westman and searched his home. A day later, a special investigations team with the San Diego County Sheriff's Department arrested Calder in front of his home.
Last week, Wright and other investigators searched Calder's San Diego home and found information that reportedly linked him to the plot.
Wright said that 17 of the 19 investors live outside the United States, but he would not describe any of them in further detail.
Among the letters officials have is one from Calder to the Oregon man saying he knew there were 98 victims of his embezzlement and that he represented 19 of them. The man told detectives that Calder had been contacting him since 2002.
Wright said the 19 investors are not considered suspects in the case because it is unclear if they knew what methods Calder was using to try to get the money back.
"We get calls all the time with stuff like this, which is pretty much unbelievable," Wright said. "But this turned out to be factual all the way down the line. ... It's all James Bond."
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legal, what you just reposted of jay-adobe's post is just a bunch of crap! I am disappointed with you. Thought you could have done much, much better than that!
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: legal, what you just reposted of jay-adobe's post is just a bunch of crap! I am disappointed with you. Thought you could have done much, much better than that!
SORRY WALLACE, I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER NEXT TIME.
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FROM THE JEFF LETTER, HOW DO YOU "SETTLE" 111 BILLION SHARE TRADES THAT WERE NEVER REPORTED, WITHOUT SETTING OFF ALL KINDS OF BELLS AND WHISTLES.
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AND WHY DIDN'T THE SEC KNOW OF THIS LONG BEFORE MAY 6 OF THIS YEAR WHEN THE TRANSACTIONS TOOK PLACE OVER A YEAR AGO?
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111 biLLion shares they did not report. boy o boy JEFF in kinda deep. Thing about it that is just the number they are reporting. Who knows how many other MM's are in it just as dEEp if not dEEper
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IMO, JEFF HAD 111 BILLION "EXTRA" SHARES AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER CLEARED OR NOT. TRANSLATION: DEAR SEC WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXTRA SHARES LAYING AROUND. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED. MUST HAVE BEEN AN ELECTRONIC ERROR. PLEASE DON'T SEND US TO JAIL. LOL
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IF JEFFRIES GOT A LETTER FROM SEC, S'POSE ALL THE REST OF THE MM'S GOT ONE AS WELL? SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE NITE'S.
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LOOKS LIKE THE CLEARING BROKERS FIGURED OUT A WAY TO GET THE FAILS OFF THE NSCC RECORDS AND INTO "EX-CLEARING" STATUS, WHERE BROKERS DEAL BETWEEN THEMSELVES. AND THE NSCC DOESN'T MONITOR.
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93.13 Billion in Buys - 448 Million in Sells There were 7 lines showing ****** for +19 billion (2.48 avg)
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FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 Fax (903)595-4383 E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com
Update May 12
Good morning,
The Jefferies letter in which I referenced yesterday is now available on the Owners Group web site found at www.cmkxownersgroup.com .
We have begun on your behalf a separate investigation into all parties associated with this letter.
Today is a travel day for John Martin and myself, so we will not be available for questions until tomorrow. Feel free however, to call or email the office today if it is absolutely necessary. Goldie or Jill may be able to assist you.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: is it possible that these trades were being executed for CMK?
IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY TWO ENTITIES WITH 111 BILLION IN CERTS (REAL SHARES). THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT JEFF IS COVERING IT'S SHORT SELLING BY SAYING THAT THEY WERE CONTINUOUSLY SELLING CMKX BELIEVING THAT 111 BILLION REAL SHARES WERE STILL IN THEIR INVENTORY. WHILE ALL ALONG, THEIR POP UP BLOCKER WAS "MALFUNCTIONING" AND NOT REPORTING THAT THESE SHARES HAD BEEN SOLD. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT EXCUSE IS THAT IT HAD TO BE "MALFUNCTIONING" FROM MARCH TO SEPT '04.
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THEN THE QUESTION ARISES AS TO HOW MANY TIMES DID THEY MOVE THIS 111 BILLION SHARES OVER THOSE MONTHS, "THINKING" THEY STILL HAD THEM IN INVENTORY. NOT JUST TO RETAIL BUYERS, BUT TO OTHER BROKERAGES AS WELL IN THE 10'S OF BILLIONS.
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i read it to say that they knew anything over 9,999,999 wouldn't show...i remember all of those 9.999999mill share trades we saw all the time...
interesting how many of these trades were when the PPS was up from the Jun PR's....looks like part of a planned thing to me....
i'm just 'spicious by nature tho...
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