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LOL, Will, you're probably right !!! Moving on to the next item on the agenda, there is this to consider. Since all this was happening (or wasnt happening) when our dividends were issued, what happens to them? Are they legal dividends (since nobody knows the share count), or can they be revoked also?
Any thoughts from the group?
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1. Squashed the subpoenas to DTCC and the SEC. 2. Denied the request to allow cult members preferential treatment by changing the meeting location. 3. Approved the SEC's subpoena for Maheu to be required to testify and bring any materials not already in the SEC's possession.
Looks like the SEC is batting 1000%!!!
Now you want OBO/NOBO to be considered??? Can't you cult members face any reality whatsoever? The best thing that could happen to any of you is that CMKX be prevented from trading anywhere ever again, that any company controlled by any of that group (UC included) be prevented from ever trading anywhere, and, that UC and others are not only fined considerable amounts of money but serve jail time as well.
You people bought into UC, Melvin, UC and Roger Glenn hook, line and stinker. Now learn to live with that fact! Learn from your mistake and stop perpetuating it.
Are you waiting for the coffin to be nailed shut and cremated when Glenn decides it's in his best interests to provide more damaging evidence? He's going to try to save his own skin and priviledges to practice law long before he will sink with UC and others. That's when more damaging testimony will be presented about the whole situation and events. If the SEC has subpoened Maheu, you can bet they want Glenn there too. And, both Transfer Agents!!!
Even a wet noodle would know by now that the sauce is burned and must be thrown out along with the "meatballs"!!!!
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Ed wrote: "Moving on to the next item on the agenda, there is this to consider. Since all this was happening (or wasnt happening) when our dividends were issued, what happens to them? Are they legal dividends (since nobody knows the share count), or can they be revoked also?
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Wallace: Now learn to live with that fact!(LOL by the way)
Hey, I am still having fun here. I didn't put in more than I could lose, I bought in at .0001 right before the run(just about), I took profits when it did go,and this whole thing, all in all, has been like a soap opera about a WWE wrestling match at a NHRA event!And I did learn,I learned things that I thought I'd never have to learn about investing.LOL
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Here are more excerpts from legal's recent posts:
"It's just good to get the SEC on record as saying that "Evidence" may be damaging to their case."
Answer: Would you please tell us why? Furthermore, that does not state that any so-called NSS evidence "would" have been damaging. It simply states that to bring in such information (evidence), diverts attention away from facts and the true reason(s) for the SEC proceedings. All it is is information having nothing to do with falsification and not filing reports.
"I have answered that a few times here. If you have evidence that the numbers you have received from your TA are, in fact, incorrect, then it would have been a criminal act to enter the false number."
Answer: If they had such evidence as to the numbers being incorrect and they entered a false number, which is apparently exactly what they did (so-called evidence or not), THAT IS A CRIMINAL ACT!!!
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You wrote: "Wallace: Now learn to live with that fact!(LOL by the way)
Hey, I am still having fun here." ******************************
I, too, am having fun on this thread. It is something that I have never seen on such a scale of mesmerization. Extremely hypnotic.
I am pleased that you were one of the smart ones and took profits where/when you could. Others have been drawn into it and have not been so fortunate. That, is something for which they can thank the cult members.
Maybe those people have a valid suit against all those pumpers and cult members as well as CMKX, UC et al.
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Hey Will,I sure haven't buddy.I do like to travel over there though,it's fun,there are some good points by some of them.
But then there are some over there that can go WAY off tangent.But the good olde Allstocks CMKX keeps me grounded.If you want a CMKX theory bashed to pieces,an idea riped to shards, just bring it over here.LOL!j/k around
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Yea, I wanna sue ballicker and nutsac. The other ones I'm contnet in knowing that they might some day "understand" this complicated stock. I missed the paly of a lifetime I was stupid to not put ten's of thousands into this play of a lifetime. How could I be so foolish? I should have bought all the way down from the mini-run it had and held it for the big showdown with SEC and DTC where Urban rights all wrong and is the hero of trading public. Damn I wish I was smarter and understood this stock and didn't find negatives where there weren't any.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Hey Will,I sure haven't buddy.I do like to travel over there though,it's fun,there are some good points by some of them.
But then there are some over there that can go WAY off tangent.But the good olde Allstocks CMKX keeps me grounded.If you want a CMKX theory bashed to pieces,an idea riped to shards, just bring it over here.LOL!j/k around
Hwy, really broke me up laughing at that one! J/K or not, it is the truth. However, if the theories had any logical substance, that would not happen. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Ed wrote: "Moving on to the next item on the agenda, there is this to consider. Since all this was happening (or wasnt happening) when our dividends were issued, what happens to them? Are they legal dividends (since nobody knows the share count), or can they be revoked also?
Any thoughts from the group?"
WHAT DIVIDENDS, ED? LOL
Ummm...I got divvies in USCA and GEMM a while back. Quite a few shares...if they are real....
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Don't celebrate too soon. Read the Judge's ruling carefully, first paragraph. Let me paraphrase:
The hearing is scheduled for May 10, there is not enough time for compliance by the SEC and DTCC in producing such massive documentation. At this time, I will not require such an undertaking, but if CMKX wishes me to revisit this issue, I will do so at the time of the hearing.
"Anyone who wants to request that I reconsider my rulings may do so at the outset of the hearing on May 10, 2005."
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Yeah ED but they are restricted and after proving that UC is a scam artist do you really think these shares will ever be able to be sold? They will set in your account to haunt you forever or they will have such a charge to convert that it will cost more then you could sell them for. That if USCA isn't revoked soon too.
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you think shareholders got scammed...what about SGGM...10 million in cash & UC gets 200 billion shares...i wonder if SGGM bought the pump & dump game book along with the cmkx cult email list. watch & see...SGGM gets everything cmkx claims to have, all diamond claims & gold mines & it starts all over. & UC has 200 billion shares. CIM never goes public, thus worthless divy. UC crys n/s short in court, keep the cult in line & joins SGGM. & all the theorys of how 100's of billions of shares is a good thing starts all over. SGGM a/s is 900 billion so no increases needed. & UC doesn't have to be part of SGGM all they need is the claims & gold mine & a pr stating where they came from.
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quote:Originally posted by will: you're a riot, legal, you can find a reason to celebrate in the worse news.
Bones: He's dead Jim, he's dead! Capt Kirk: It's ok Bones, he's only daed, he'll be ok.
Notice Bones didn't say, Damnit Jim, he's dead, so he might be pretending or can reconsider his position at a death certificate hearing on the 10th.
Then please explain Will, how you see the NS is dead if the judge clearly leaves the door open for reconsideration at the outset of the hearing.
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its to make sure no appeal is possible on that account legel. nothing more, nothing less. its call cover you back side. same thing UC did with roger glen & why UC will not end up in jail.
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I will put a "Legal" type spin on this. In there filing they never said that they were naked short just that without the documents they can't use it against the SEC.
If you are trying to state that the unknown in the market palce can keep someone from filing then almost all companoes could use it tostop filings. Most don't know if they are being short at a given time frame unless it does get published to SHO list which may not be out before filings so then using there logic all companies can delay or not file because they are not sure if they are shorted or not.
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I don't think they believe in NSS. I believe they hope there is some NSS so they can use it to divert the real issues and get pity. It won't work, revoked.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Don't celebrate too soon. Read the Judge's ruling carefully, first paragraph. Let me paraphrase:
The hearing is scheduled for May 10, there is not enough time for compliance by the SEC and DTCC in producing such massive documentation. At this time, I will not require such an undertaking, but if CMKX wishes me to revisit this issue, I will do so at the time of the hearing.
"Anyone who wants to request that I reconsider my rulings may do so at the outset of the hearing on May 10, 2005."
Legal, you sure did take a lot of liberties with your paraphrasing above. I saw nowhere that Judge Murray said anything about there not being enough time for the SEC or DTCC to produce documentation as you stated. Would you be kind enough to repeat it verbatum on this thread? It appears that you took considerable license with the words you put into the Judge's statement. Why distort the "spirit and intent" of the Judge's statement?
Judge Murry did state that she is "deciding pending motions based on the material I now have before me". There is no doubt that both sides have submitted volumes of material to the court and that that will not change as to the outcome in the Judge's mind. To say, she is open to reconsideration on the 10th, is normal. The substance of the "material" before her will not change to any contrary degree.
If I remember correctly, you had also previously stated that CMKX had not stated anything about a NSS situation in their subpoena. Try reading Item 1 and Item 2 (2nd paragraph) of the Judge's ruling on the subpoenas. It is 100% clear that they did so, unless the Judge is lying.
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State the number of shares outstanding of each of the issuer's classes of common equity, as of the latest practicable date: common stock, its only class of equity securities, as of December 31, 2004 was: 49,990,700.
from a companies Q10...notice it says outstanding & thus is legel, they are not lying. it doesn't say owned by shareholders, it doesn't say issued & n/s shares included. all that is required is to post the o/s period. the SEC doesn't require you to post what the t/a has as traded. the company issues shares to the market not the t/a, they go into the market thru the t/a. the idea it would be false to post an o/s & not include n/s shares is ridiculous. it would mean every company would need every DTC record every Q10 or filing that listed the o/s. every company knows how many shares they issued & thats whats called for.
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Legal, I give up on you boy....if you were hit in the head with a brick, you would probably say it wasnt a brick. Even tho the brick were stuck to your skull, you'd still swear it wasnt a brick. If chemical analysis proved it was a brick, you would still say it wasnt a brick. I pity you for being so gullible. What I cant figure out is why you are so loyal to CMKX when it's obvious they are in their last days. I really do feel sorry for the guys who lost money in this, but moreso for those of you who still believe there's a chance.
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