at the rate that these MM's are dropping it (1-2 ticks per day) I suppose we shall see who is right in the next 10-20 days... Hummmmmmm!!!!!
Is that 1/2 empty enough for you?????
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We need it for consolidation to be firm. There are people quietly buying everyday. I'm still waiting for the dust to settle before I load up.
This isn't simply MMs playing. This is people who can't handle watching a holding decrease in value. I'll not lie. It bothers me too. But I just try to keep my eye on the big picture!
I choose to believe we'll see a trend reversal soon. When that signal hits is when I drop big money on this!
Long & strong!
"All we ever had to do is launch!"
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Penny-Trader If you keep exhibiting a positive attitude, I will be forced to send you a gold Q which you will be required to wear at all times.
FatherOfTwo already is on probation for this same offense . . . and I have ordered an additional supply of gold Qs for all the rest of you who have not learned to think negatively.
What in the hell is this world coming to?
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: Penny-Trader If you keep exhibiting a positive attitude, I will be forced to send you a gold Q which you will be required to wear at all times.
FatherOfTwo already is on probation for this same offense . . . and I have ordered an additional supply of gold Qs for all the rest of you who have not learned to think negatively.
What in the hell is this world coming to?
Got to tell you I'm impressed with those of you that do not whine! Love your post Bottomliner. There will be better times to come we can laugh at the present situation.
Keeping the powder dry till I see the surrender cease.
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Bottom... can't I be on "Double Secret Probation"???
quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: Penny-Trader If you keep exhibiting a positive attitude, I will be forced to send you a gold Q which you will be required to wear at all times.
FatherOfTwo already is on probation for this same offense . . . and I have ordered an additional supply of gold Qs for all the rest of you who have not learned to think negatively.
What in the hell is this world coming to?
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: Penny-Trader If you keep exhibiting a positive attitude, I will be forced to send you a gold Q which you will be required to wear at all times.
FatherOfTwo already is on probation for this same offense . . . and I have ordered an additional supply of gold Qs for all the rest of you who have not learned to think negatively.
What in the hell is this world coming to?
LOL, I hope the Pessimistic Police don't throw me in jail for being too "optimistic!" Posts: 798 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2005
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Or maybe some of us are tired of beating a dead horse and will make some money elsewhere until the flys clear.
This stock has potential, but if a difinative bottom is not established and the RSI is still going down, isn't it better to make some money and come back to this when the signals improve?
In the mean time, DD is what is important.
Stating this is going to "fly" while the pps continues to drop makes for good entertainment.
Not bashing, just expressing some other views.
Good Luck, and turn damnit turn!
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whiz Thanks. Sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from crying.
But to be serious for a minute, I will never understand why some people bother to post here. They never see the upside, or the potential, or the light at the end of the tunnel. They trash the stock, the company, Frank and his staff, every PR that comes out, QBID's improving RiskGrade, etc, etc.
But they tell us they own QBID shares and think (or hope) it will succeed.
Sounds like the guy who hated his car and told everyone it was a piece of junk. Then complained because no one would buy it.
Now . . . I know that a few whiners on this board did not cause the recent PPS decline. I recognize that QBID has some weaknesses and that Frank has to do something really positive soon or the decline will continue. Since Frank seldom consults me before making decisions about QBID, I have no insider information I can present to counter the whiners and the bashers. But even if I did, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest with them.
In fact, I seldom respond to anyone I disagree with. I don't mind hearing both sides of an issue, if the information is presented intelligently and politely. If it isn't, I won't waste my time creating a response.
One last comment: I think everyone who posts here . . . the good, the bad and the ugly . . . should be required to attend our Vegas celebration, clearly labeled with their screenname (ALL their screennames) so we can deal with them appropriately.
Ah, that would almost be as sweet as QBID at a buck a share.
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Not a good start to the year for pps. Great start for production. Think I will stick around. As always don't invest what you can't afford to loose.
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The stock is worth nothing more than the pps of the moment and NO INTRINSIC VAULE can be attached to the position as the company is a pink rose.
Will the rose bloom or wither, only Frank knows and he is unwilling to tell us. Doesn't that scare anyone?? Or do we follow in blind faith because he has a great idea??
These are valid questions. My rose colored glasses need to have the smudg marks washed off.
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Well got filled at .0021 for 350,000, holding 4,556,000 and down 5k, still not selling im all in and can lose it all, sure hope that dont happen. go QBID DADDY NEEDS NEW SHOES.
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I agree with you, Bottomliner. I can't stand it when people start a verbal altercation with me just because I happen to see the potential in this company. I don't care what the PPS is right now. I don't even care what it's going to be by the end of the year. I bought this stock knowing I am holding until the Gay Games in July 2006. The decline in price right now is inconsequential to me. Of course, the keyword here is ME. What I may find adequate, others may find problematic. To each their own I guess. I invested in QBID because I see phenomenal opportunity for growth ahead. I respect the fact that others may repudiate my opinion, but I cannot respect the ones who try and make me think otherwise. Investing is a personal decision, and I've made mine. To quote Doctoall's signature, as it so eloquently states, "If we agree to disagree, then we will remain friends." Posts: 798 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2005
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I am amazed at how bad people have gotten on other boards. Its nothing but doom and gloom. Accusing Frank of being a crook. That its a two man operation that spend their time reading boards so as to know what correction to make to their IR posts. OMG how full of yourself can you actually be?? Some people actually think that their one post on a crappy, subpar message board questioning an IR statement was read and immediately caused the revised IR posting. I have to wonder if these people have ever really been in the business world.
People make statements and public posts and do actually correct them without the aid of some illiterate (or a group of illiterate) poster(s) on IHub's input. Ooops was that out loud? Dont get me wrong there are some good people out there but... wow.. there are some morons too.
Stocks tank. Stocks rise. Companys succeed. Companys fail. Its the way the world works. Taking things personal or pointing fingers never gets the job done and wasting the managements time by calling them multiple times in a day to get answers that they really dont need to be wasting their time giving is hurting all of us that believe in this network and this product.
I have done my research and I have come to the conclusion that what Frank and company are doing is getting things on the right track. The people they are working with and the steps they are taking all seem to be the right ones to me and should get them AND US where we all want to be in the end. Gay Games are over a year away and already part of the program? Thats forward thinking. Not what short range stock scammers tend to do.
It just blows me away.
Heres a little tale I like to remind myself of in times like this...
It was 1996 and I went to work for a small company in Tucson that was based in Virginia. I, and everyone else, was given some stock options upon hire. Within 90 days of hiring my strike price was $85 higher than the current ask. Essentially worthless. Well more than worthless really. We were told about the competition (much like LOGO and hereTV now) that was gearing up and would knock us out of the water and close us down. There was no hope of survival according to most message boards and many analysts. We were a lost cause. I was one of the crazy people that still believed in the dream.
Over the next few 4 years the stock split 8 times and went to around $130. We made a deal with the one company that everyone thought was going to put us out of business to use some of their technology. We bought GNN, Compuserve, Mapquest, Moviephone, Netscape, Spinner and more and more and oh yeah, we bought Time Warner.
Will this happen to QBID? Nah, not a chance. But will QBID survive this? Of course it will. At the very least it will be an acquisition target. I have bet my a** on this thing hitting $1 in 2-3 years. And I still believe it will happen, a fall in pps doesnt change the facts and the progress. They are very much mutually exclusive at the stage of the game.
Do we need a carrier to take off? Maybe, but I don't know if that will happen. What I do know is the entertainment business and QTelevision will be ripe for the picking soon and there is nothing that would stop LOGO from offering up the rights to air Qtv programs. That is all we would need for the riches and the success without a major carrier.
To those holding long like me... Keep your heads up, trust what you know, ignore what read on the boards, follow the news not the gossip and hang on for the fun.
(edited some bad typos.. I get excited and a little fat fingered sometimes, go figure)
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Liggie, excellent post! Welcome to the discussion and to start you off I gave you five stars.
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ALL of the companies that make it move to reporting. 99.999999% of the pinks don't make the $1 pps nor reporting. These are FACTS, like it or not.
Call it what it is, a dream and a hope. That is what we "bashers" and "whiners" are being scolded for is pointing that out.
I hope they do get to a buck, I have my lottery tickets too.
Talking about what it will take to make the pps turn is part of the investment and speculation as to where it will fall is also part of it.
It is all part of the cycle of stocks, up and down. That is why there are options on reporting companies. Puts and Calls are part of the investing world and we "whiners" and "bashers" are just discussing stocks that we can not play options.
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quote:Originally posted by forfun: Good post ligge.
Here is my venting:
Microsoft was a subpenny as well.
ALL of the companies that make it move to reporting. 99.999999% of the pinks don't make the $1 pps nor reporting. These are FACTS, like it or not.
Call it what it is, a dream and a hope. That is what we "bashers" and "whiners" are being scolded for is pointing that out.
I hope they do get to a buck, I have my lottery tickets too.
Talking about what it will take to make the pps turn is part of the investment and speculation as to where it will fall is also part of it.
It is all part of the cycle of stocks, up and down. That is why there are options on reporting companies. Puts and Calls are part of the investing world and we "whiners" and "bashers" are just discussing stocks that we can not play options.
They can call me a whiner or a basher all they want; either way im going to win. If it does fail I will not care because my money will not be in it. And if it does go up I will be in it. Seeing both sides makes me a good investor that makes money instead of trying to get lucky. To so many people here gbid is their first stock. What makes you think this one stock is going to be the pick. When its all done with fail or succeed, I will not be saying "shoulda, coulda, woulda".
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quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: I agree with you, Bottomliner. I can't stand it when people start a verbal altercation with me just because I happen to see the potential in this company. I don't care what the PPS is right now. I don't even care what it's going to be by the end of the year. I bought this stock knowing I am holding until the Gay Games in July 2006. The decline in price right now is inconsequential to me. Of course, the keyword here is ME. What I may find adequate, others may find problematic. To each their own I guess. I invested in QBID because I see phenomenal opportunity for growth ahead. I respect the fact that others may repudiate my opinion, but I cannot respect the ones who try and make me think otherwise. Investing is a personal decision, and I've made mine. To quote Doctoall's signature, as it so eloquently states, "If we agree to disagree, then we will remain friends."
Now that's what I'm talkin' about. It's an investment. 2006, 2007 maybe out to 2008 but the strong ones will win out. Q's been pumped, bashed, laughed about, cried about and everything in between. IT IS AN INVESTMENT, pure and simple if solely due to the nature of the product they are selling. I've seen more DD on this than almost anything on the market on this board alone. Good post pennies! Dakota told you that......(goodnight Ms. Patty, where ever you are......Hey to Ron too)
-------------------- Dakota Just because I'm paranoid don't mean there ain't someone behind me........ Posts: 172 | From: Kodak, TN, USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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Thought I would add my 2 cents. I have been lurking these past several months, really enjoy the board. Brother told me of qbid & what a great deal it could turn out to be....at first I thought it was a porn channel, checked it out, started going on the boards, etc, seemed like a good deal. I have no knowledge of stocks, this is a learning experience for me...but I am enjoying the ride...When I see the #'s fall it freaks me out, but after reading the daily posts I see a pattern, [ or rather you see a psttern] & I realize that the good times are comming. This is exciting for me, tomorrow I will p/u 250k more to total 750k. Thankyou all for the info.
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I have decided to go long on this stock. nothing that anyone can tell me will change my mind at this point. The company has been putting out some great prs in my opinion. they are building a network. this is something that Frank has done in the past and knows what he is doing. no one on this board has done this or really knows what it takes to build a network.
I have to go with the prs as being truthfull and all the bashing in the world can not make me feel any different about the progress that is taking place at this time. I understand that dates have been set and missed, but i have had missed dates and times on many things in my life.
that is part of life. delays happen all the time in every aspect of our lives. traffic travel deliveries, labour diputes, raises, reservations, and on and on. so why do so many find it hard to accept that something as complex as negotiating a national carriage contract, could have delays? To many people are concerned with making a quick buck and wanting it now. this is not going to be an overnight return, that is why so many of us refer to our positions as being long. we are not looking to get out tomorrow or next week. many of us are looking for the long haul, meaning years. Microsoft started out as a penny stock and it took them many years to get to where they are now. In time Q will be a great investment for the longs. I fully plan on being here as a long and hopefully will realise all the proffits that this stock is capable of.
Bit if you are not comfortabel with the long possition on this then that is your perogative and so be it. if this is the case then by all means take your money and invest it where you think you will do your best with it. but please dont insult the ones that choose to stay with this stock. it is thier money and realy why would you care what they do with their money. Unless of course you are looking to grab thier money. If your with us great, if your not then that is fine as well. but your time is well waisted if you think you are trying to convince us that we are wrong for investign our money here.
I for one have decided to stick it out and let the cards fall where they will. most people only have 5 grand invested in here some more some less. for most 5 grand will not kill them if they loose it. if it does then they are in over thier heads in the first place. but it is thier money and they have made the decision knowing full well that this is a pink and that investing has its risks and they have wieghed that risk and proceeded feeling that they are comfortable. i highly doubt that anyone here has invested against thier will.
thank you for your concerns for our money, we have listened to you and we will all make our decisions based on how we feel. no one deserves to have anyone tell them they are wrong by someone that does not even know them personally.
have a good evening and a great day tomorrow.
Rod
-------------------- Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.
This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose. Posts: 4801 | From: Prescott, ON, Canada | Registered: May 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Bottomliner: whiz Thanks. Sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from crying.
But to be serious for a minute, I will never understand why some people bother to post here. They never see the upside, or the potential, or the light at the end of the tunnel. They trash the stock, the company, Frank and his staff, every PR that comes out, QBID's improving RiskGrade, etc, etc.
But they tell us they own QBID shares and think (or hope) it will succeed.
Sounds like the guy who hated his car and told everyone it was a piece of junk. Then complained because no one would buy it.
Now . . . I know that a few whiners on this board did not cause the recent PPS decline. I recognize that QBID has some weaknesses and that Frank has to do something really positive soon or the decline will continue. Since Frank seldom consults me before making decisions about QBID, I have no insider information I can present to counter the whiners and the bashers. But even if I did, I really don't want to get into a pissing contest with them.
In fact, I seldom respond to anyone I disagree with. I don't mind hearing both sides of an issue, if the information is presented intelligently and politely. If it isn't, I won't waste my time creating a response.
One last comment: I think everyone who posts here . . . the good, the bad and the ugly . . . should be required to attend our Vegas celebration, clearly labeled with their screenname (ALL their screennames) so we can deal with them appropriately.
Ah, that would almost be as sweet as QBID at a buck a share.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: I have decided to go long on this stock. nothing that anyone can tell me will change my mind at this point. The company has been putting out some great prs in my opinion. they are building a network. this is something that Frank has done in the past and knows what he is doing. no one on this board has done this or really knows what it takes to build a network.
quote:Originally posted by Ligge: Ok I have to vent!
I am amazed at how bad people have gotten on other boards. Its nothing but doom and gloom. Accusing Frank of being a crook. That its a two man operation that spend their time reading boards so as to know what correction to make to their IR posts. OMG how full of yourself can you actually be?? Some people actually think that their one post on a crappy, subpar message board questioning an IR statement was read and immediately caused the revised IR posting. I have to wonder if these people have ever really been in the business world.
People make statements and public posts and do actually correct them without the aid of some illiterate (or a group of illiterate) poster(s) on IHub's input. Ooops was that out loud? Dont get me wrong there are some good people out there but... wow.. there are some morons too.
Stocks tank. Stocks rise. Companys succeed. Companys fail. Its the way the world works. Taking things personal or pointing fingers never gets the job done and wasting the managements time by calling them multiple times in a day to get answers that they really dont need to be wasting their time giving is hurting all of us that believe in this network and this product.
I have done my research and I have come to the conclusion that what Frank and company are doing is getting things on the right track. The people they are working with and the steps they are taking all seem to be the right ones to me and should get them AND US where we all want to be in the end. Gay Games are over a year away and already part of the program? Thats forward thinking. Not what short range stock scammers tend to do.
It just blows me away.
Heres a little tale I like to remind myself of in times like this...
It was 1996 and I went to work for a small company in Tucson that was based in Virginia. I, and everyone else, was given some stock options upon hire. Within 90 days of hiring my strike price was $85 higher than the current ask. Essentially worthless. Well more than worthless really. We were told about the competition (much like LOGO and hereTV now) that was gearing up and would knock us out of the water and close us down. There was no hope of survival according to most message boards and many analysts. We were a lost cause. I was one of the crazy people that still believed in the dream.
Over the next few 4 years the stock split 8 times and went to around $130. We made a deal with the one company that everyone thought was going to put us out of business to use some of their technology. We bought GNN, Compuserve, Mapquest, Moviephone, Netscape, Spinner and more and more and oh yeah, we bought Time Warner.
Will this happen to QBID? Nah, not a chance. But will QBID survive this? Of course it will. At the very least it will be an acquisition target. I have bet my a** on this thing hitting $1 in 2-3 years. And I still believe it will happen, a fall in pps doesnt change the facts and the progress. They are very much mutually exclusive at the stage of the game.
Do we need a carrier to take off? Maybe, but I don't know if that will happen. What I do know is the entertainment business and QTelevision will be ripe for the picking soon and there is nothing that would stop LOGO from offering up the rights to air Qtv programs. That is all we would need for the riches and the success without a major carrier.
To those holding long like me... Keep your heads up, trust what you know, ignore what read on the boards, follow the news not the gossip and hang on for the fun.
(edited some bad typos.. I get excited and a little fat fingered sometimes, go figure)
Yea Ligge!
And I'm fond of reminding myself that Genuine National TV Networks do not trade for less than a buck a share!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: I agree with you, Bottomliner. I can't stand it when people start a verbal altercation with me just because I happen to see the potential in this company. I don't care what the PPS is right now. I don't even care what it's going to be by the end of the year. I bought this stock knowing I am holding until the Gay Games in July 2006. The decline in price right now is inconsequential to me. Of course, the keyword here is ME. What I may find adequate, others may find problematic. To each their own I guess. I invested in QBID because I see phenomenal opportunity for growth ahead. I respect the fact that others may repudiate my opinion, but I cannot respect the ones who try and make me think otherwise. Investing is a personal decision, and I've made mine. To quote Doctoall's signature, as it so eloquently states, "If we agree to disagree, then we will remain friends."
Now that's what I'm talkin' about. It's an investment. 2006, 2007 maybe out to 2008 but the strong ones will win out. Q's been pumped, bashed, laughed about, cried about and everything in between. IT IS AN INVESTMENT, pure and simple if solely due to the nature of the product they are selling. I've seen more DD on this than almost anything on the market on this board alone. Good post pennies! Dakota told you that......(goodnight Ms. Patty, where ever you are......Hey to Ron too)
Good to hear from you Dakota. Tell the missus we all said hi!
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hi all, i'm new to the board and stocks so i just try to learn something here. here's my question: if i'm holding 1 million shares of whatever stock then it did a R/S now how many shares do i have after the split? thank you
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quote:Originally posted by forfun: Good post ligge.
Here is my venting:
Microsoft was a subpenny as well.
ALL of the companies that make it move to reporting. 99.999999% of the pinks don't make the $1 pps nor reporting. These are FACTS, like it or not.
Call it what it is, a dream and a hope. That is what we "bashers" and "whiners" are being scolded for is pointing that out.
I hope they do get to a buck, I have my lottery tickets too.
Talking about what it will take to make the pps turn is part of the investment and speculation as to where it will fall is also part of it.
It is all part of the cycle of stocks, up and down. That is why there are options on reporting companies. Puts and Calls are part of the investing world and we "whiners" and "bashers" are just discussing stocks that we can not play options.
------------------------------------------------ Hate to burst your bubble on this one, however Micorsoft was never a penny stock. The PPS for Microsoft started out at somewhere in the 20-25 dollar range. You have to take into consideration of the 10 or so forward splits they have had since inception. Every forward split changes the PPS not just for that day but for the whole time they have been around. So every time someone says that Microsoft or Wal-Mart or any other big name companies started out at subpenny level they are not correct and are not taking consideration of all the forward splits they have done.
At the moment it looks like Micorosoft started out at 9 cents. If you multiply that nine cents by the splits, which i think were 8 at 2-1 and 2 at 3-2 you will get the actual starting point of the PPS.
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