dz

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Originally posted by denzen:
GREEEEN!!!!

dz

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wheres everyone?
nice day today in CHItown
im gonna get out of here, think i need a break for a day

take care everyone

It heartened me when I read the post of some on the Off topic board. They felt that the soldiers life was somehow not as important as a citizen who dies for no cause. They say that we knew the risks when signing up for duty and if we die it was our job. Most of us who sign up do it for the adventure and service but I grant you we never think about death when we join. I joined for the college education but a lot join because of the recruiter who gave them a dream when they have none. When you are 18 and your life seems doomed the service can look good when you are given a glamar picture of service. The service gives you a sense of respect, honor of country, and bravery but one thing they don't teach you is the horrors of war and what it will be like if your injuried with little hope after service. Veterans with no legs who lost all hope homeless. veterans who have the mental flash backs of war who can not hold down a job. These are the ones who need us the most. And to all the veterans out there, Happy Veterans Day.

Ric

check out MSEV and XING. They're heading in the right direction.

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Originally posted by CashRules:
Two buy orders just went in one for 6 million another for 9 million.

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wish they were mine

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Originally posted by Scoundrel:
I don't know all the possibilities but if the company is sold, which I am sure it will be once it hits a target value only Frank knows, the buyer might reverse split the stock for example, 1 to 4 for example, or more.

So if you own 1,000,000 shares you then would own 250,000. Or they may dissolve the company and absorb some assets/contracts making our stock worthless at that point.

The good possibility is the buyer may merge us with their own share holders, but that would likely lower their stock value initially which their board of directors would dislike.

So, unless I am way off base, a sale of the company is not all that great a thing for us. I do not expect it to happen any time before Franks stock is worth approx $1billion. So if he has 5billion shares, thats $.20. And if there is solid momentum going I imagine he would hold out for a good bit more.

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I don't know if you're entirely correct when you say a merger would lower the PPS of the parent company. Hypothetical situation. Time Warner buys out QTE. If they pay Frank straight up for the majority of the shares, yes TW loses money. Equally, it gains QTE as an asset to the company that is worth exactly as much as they paid for it. They're investing in QBID's success then just as much as we are. So are they really losing any value?
TWX has $6 billion worth of shares not being traded so it would be possible for them to give us our equivalent worth that we hold in QBID share in TWX shares.
Most likely they could also offer all QBID shareholders a Tender. Basically they try to buy our shares of the company by offering us a price for each of our shares that is higher than the current market price to entice us to sell. I'm sure most of you know about this already. This is what makes me think
Say we are offered a tender and if we don't take it we're given shares of TWX. Again this is just a hypothetical situation with TWX. Anyone could buy QBID and/or go about buying the company in a different manner. Anyways, say we're offered the tender or wait for the equal value TWX shares. Would any of us really want to wait for the TWX shares? The whole point of us investing in QBID is this stock has HUGE potential. It literally could make a lot of us millionaires.
Think about this though. If QBID didn't sell out and went to a value of $5 billion, what would the PPS be? 4-6? If QTE does the same performance but as part of TWX's shares, the PPS might only raise from $17 to $18 since TWX has a market cap of 78 billion. So do we as penny traders take the tender for the quick gain fix and forget about QTE or do we go from the possibilites and thrill of penny trading to a safer large cap stock that won't move nearly as much as QBID could. Run on sentance?
This just worries me because I feel that once this thing starts running, which it probably will soon enough, .20 can't be that far. I'm sure Frank couldn't feel bad about taking his billion and moving on, who wouldn't. To me it just seems like for all the trust, hope, and money we've all invested in QBID and Frank that it'd be a terrible thing to leave us hanging. I understand how he's the type that loves to create. It's like a quick fix. You build, create, and move on when things become clockwork. Perhaps QBID could be his baby though? He is a gay man. Has he done any other projects dealing with the homosexual community? If he has, anything as big as this? I guess I'm just a little physically tired and afraid of the thought that I wouldn't be able to get the full potential out of this stock. Ughhhhhhhhh....palms are sweaty. Matt

In a merger you "can" merge stockholders but its not required.

In a buyout the important aspects of the bought company are transferred to the buyer and the scrap is auctioned/trashed.

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Originally posted by Scoundrel:
A buyout is not a merger. I was speaking of a buyout.

In a merger you "can" merge stockholders but its not required.

In a buyout the important aspects of the bought company are transferred to the buyer and the scrap is auctioned/trashed.

We are not currently at risk of a buyout or a merger though, so its just an argument over nothing. I expect the stock to get up to perhaps $.20 before being at risk of such a thing.

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Well if a companies pays you in shares or stock value wouldn't it still be a buyout? You're getting value for your shares. Only difference between that and a merger is in that case two stocks are dissolved and their value put into one new stock. Correct?

What would you do in that situation?

Sell, or stick it out?

"affiliate" or "wholly-owned subsidiary" Q TELEVISION NETWORK, INC.
http://www.secstate.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?name=Q+TELEVISION+NETWORK%2c+INC.&ubi=602391767

QTN is abrev. for Q Television Network.

Triangle Multi Media Inc. is the name of the company that the ticker symbol belongs to.

In case you didn't know.

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
buyouts, mergers,??? this company can barely hold a quarter of a penny! This is a tv network with a broadcast signal in a couple major markets in the US and this is all we can muster, pitiful. All we ever had to do is be managed by a businessman.
Thanks to all our veterans, it is the vets that has made this country great.
back to lurk-land

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
buyouts, mergers,??? this company can barely hold a quarter of a penny! This is a tv network with a broadcast signal in a couple major markets in the US and this is all we can muster, pitiful. All we ever had to do is be managed by a businessman.
Thanks to all our veterans, it is the vets that has made this country great.
back to lurk-land

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Maybe he has started selling them already.LOL

just joking around. shame on me.

thanks

)) we were thinking about the same thing at the same time,... is this a confirmed statement on the shares being bought back ...???

By my date... 6 weeks is over wouldnt u think.

would of ended last week. Yes?

2% buy back of OS/or preferred shares.

2% of what #, nobody really knows for sure.
I wonder if Frank even knows.
dz

GO QBID!!!!!! Bring On The Green.

Personally I feel they definately need a better spokesperson for QBID. As every time Frank says something the stock has tumbled since march.

Then.. for the love of whatever.. please stop posting vague and questionable PR's about the company. Anything that isnt factual and can"t be confirmed is like blowing hot air into a ballon with a hole at the other end...

Maybe I am wrong.. but it almost seems like they have intentionally given vague PR's with the intention to drive the price back down lower so maybe they could afford to do the buyback. Not certain just a thought.

I have a feeling we wont see too much green again untill a few things have happened...

1. PR entailing that the buyback is finnished with a total figure on just how many shares have been swallowed up.
2.Releasing info on another signed cable carrier or sky network.And when other markets will be coming on air.
3.1st months subcription figures .
4.A PR stating that the movie deal has been signed and sealed and all the movies are theirs to use,and is no longer in negotiation phase . I mean how long does it take to sign the dotted line on this.
5.And last but not least,who are the sponsors...??? and when can we expect to see hard cold figures on monthly or quarterly net income or at least disclose the "secret sponsors".
6. Not a major thing.. but please make a modern website. Sorry to say.. but appearence really is important to alot of the gay community. Style is king . Without it.. you just dont give off a good impression .

So like I stated.. I am not a basher/... Just hoping Frank and company starts getting a little more specific on the details and stop hiding behind vague PR's .

As Whiz keeps saying "All we had to do is launch" , Well we are launched in 3 major cities and the stock keeps dropping.

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
What a terrible day!!! I am as strong a supporter of QBID that there is. But even strong supporters have doubts at times. I would think that Frank should stop putting out "Fluff" PR that really does nothing for the pps. IMO the only PR's that will count will be the ones that give use names of other carriers and names of advertisers. The statements that they attended expos, conventions and shook many hands and talked to all kinds of potential advertisers are just not going to cut it. Sorry but that is my opinion, we need hard facts regarding advertisers who are backing us and carriers who are signing on. IMO nothing else is going to work to get the pps any higher, Frank needs to save the fluff. Blast me if you must but if you do please give me the reasons why the pps is not moving. Still long and holding here.

GO QBID!!!!!! Bring On The Green.

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O/S includes restricted shares period. All issued shares are part of O/S. that means if O/S is 9.5 then the 6 Billion is part of it leaving 3.5 Billion between us and Frank and thats crap. Please keep it a closed issue. They are not going to tell you something they don't tell everyone thats against the law for one. And the second is Frank is not going to have fewer shares then he gives the institutions because if he did and something happened they would have control of the company restricted or not. This is a dead issue because they never gave O/S they gave us parts of the O/S and never give us the total.

Ric

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Originally posted by bill1352:
Ric & I disagreed about the o/s a few days ago. in the cc frank said 9.5 in the float. i thought he used the wrong term as in float when he meant o/s. that same ? came up again so yesterday I called Q to ask. the invester relations guy was not in but he did call me back today (out with broken nose) He said he never asked that exactly but that he was 99.9% sure that franks 53% is part of the 9.5 billion. said the only number ever given to him since he's been there is that the o/s is 9.5 billion. that frank owns 53% of that same o/s and that there are 5 billion restricted shares that were used to cover moneys borrowed for the gay games & a couple other content purchases. i did have a brain fart as i meant to ask if the buy back reduced that 9.5 & to what. he did say that he would be seeing frank in the next couple of days & would ask to know for 100% sure that franks 53% is part of the 9.5 billion & call me back if he is wrong. thus our float minus franks 53% & any other insiders puts our float probably under 4 billion.

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited November 11, 2004).]

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