quote:Originally posted by penny-trader: i know but there is still the possibility that someone that is new will see his post and think he may be credible. just my due diligence to let them know that hes not all that.
life without hockey is weird, but i survived the last one this is only a minor inconvienience.
It is a little wierd without NHL hockey. I guess I'm kind of lucky that in San Diego we have the Gulls that are part of one of those independent leagues. I always drove up to Aneheim or LA to see games and never went to the games in my own backyard. I have actually come to appreciate the Gulls now that there is no NHL. I realize its not the NHL, but aren't you in Canada? There has to be tons of teams like the Gulls up there.
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there are we have the farm teams and lots of OHL teams and Minor hokey leagues. we have a city team that is doing quite well. but i miss going to the Corel Center and watching the Senators.
quote:Originally posted by kbpkt: It is a little wierd without NHL hockey. I guess I'm kind of lucky that in San Diego we have the Gulls that are part of one of those independent leagues. I always drove up to Aneheim or LA to see games and never went to the games in my own backyard. I have actually come to appreciate the Gulls now that there is no NHL. I realize its not the NHL, but aren't you in Canada? There has to be tons of teams like the Gulls up there.
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quote:Originally posted by penny-trader: there are we have the farm teams and lots of OHL teams and Minor hokey leagues. we have a city team that is doing quite well. but i miss going to the Corel Center and watching the Senators.
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Posted by: nealgalt1 Date:11/9/2004 10:45:34 PM Post #of 35188
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Most of you have likely heard about the impending launch of Logo. It's not exactly a surprise, given that the gay cable network enjoys the cachet and promotional muscle of its parent company Viacom.
But there are two gay start-up networks already out there -- here! TV and Q Television Network -- that have gotten a jump on establishing identities and attracting viewers, and if you are one of those TV junkies who can't get enough gay programming, you might want to check them out.
Here! TV was the first to hit the airwaves, debuting in 2002 with a limited schedule before going 24/7 this month. Available to satellite and cable operators through In Demand and TVN and offered as a VOD, SVOD or pay-per-view service, here! TV recently expanded its reach to cable households in Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee, New York City, San Francisco and Washington, D.C.
Founded by Stephen Jarchow and Paul Colichman -- who are also the founders of Regent Entertainment, a film studio in Los Angeles -- here! TV's claim to fame thus far has been its massive library of gay and lesbian programming. The network's collection recently increased when here! acquired the U.S. television broadcasting rights to the gay and lesbian titles in MGM's film library. Among them are "Longtime Companion," "Go Fish" and "Jeffrey."
Here! TV has also generated new content, producing a series of original movies, including the upcoming "Too Cool for Christmas." Billed as the first-ever gay-themed family holiday special, "Too Cool for Christmas" premieres in December and stars George Hamilton, Brooke Nevin and Donna Mills. Directed by openly gay director Sam Irvin, the film tells the story of a girl who would rather spend the holidays with her boyfriend than her two dads.
As for original series, here! TV's efforts range from the gay and lesbian gothic horror thriller "Dante's Cove" to "Here! Family," a 12-episode series hosted by Michelle Darne and inspired by her magazine "And Baby."
"The gay and lesbian community has embraced us because we offer them the broad array of entertaining, original and exclusive content that they've been searching for -- but not finding enough of -- on multichannel television," says Colichman, who is president of the network.
Like here! TV, Q Television Network, a premium service launched in September 2004 and available in various markets through RCN, offers a mix of acquired and original programming. Among the network's original programs are a talk show called "Women on Women" and "Q on the Move," a gay travel series. It also produced a documentary on gay marriage entitled "I Will, I Do, We Did."
A wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media, Q Television Network also just announced that it has obtained the rights to air live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII, which take place in Chicago from July 15 to 22, 2006.
According to executive vice president Steven Grunberg, Q Television Network stands out because it strives to truly serve the LGBT community.
"This [network] is built by and for the gay community. Rather than a smattering of stereotyped gay characters offered because current market projections indicate it would be profitable, we offer a channel that will unite the gay and lesbian audience through a network that educates, entertains and informs," Grunberg says.
Can the market support a trio of networks that all aim to support the same niche audience? Probably not. Only one or two of these endeavors is likely to survive. But until the inevitable shakeout occurs, the LGBT audience can enjoy a plethora of choices when it comes to gay-oriented programming.
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I think that Here and Q would make a good partner to edge out Logo. I mean a lot of Premium Channels are going to a subscriber channel plus VOD format. With Here's Movie data base and Q's original programing they would be a good pair.
Ric
By Linda Moss 10/4/2004
Here! TV, formerly just an on-demand and pay-per-view service targeting gay audiences, last week launched as a 24-hour premium network.
The linear mini-pay channel is now available to distributors, debuting right on schedule Oct. 1. Here! TV plans to announce its first major carriage deal for that round-the-clock network later this month, CEO Paul Colichman said.
“It is up as a 24-hour service,” he said, adding that the feed was up on a satellite. “We’re very pleased with our progress.”
Colichman said pricing for the 24-hour premium channel will vary, but didn’t offer specifics. He said the linear network will have “simply more programming” than the video on demand, subscription VOD and PPV offerings.
Here! TV’s SVOD service includes new theatricals, Colichman said. The 24-hour network will also air library product, including titles acquired from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. (such as My Beautiful Launderette) in September.
The 24-hour Here! feed is using the Playboy Channel model: subscribers can buy a program block or upgrade to the 24-hour linear feed for a monthly subscription fee.
Whereas Logo — the 24-hour network for gay audiences MTV Networks will roll out in February — can launch on digital tiers, independent Here! TV lacks Viacom Inc.’s clout and distribution leverage. That’s one reason Here! TV is going the mini-pay route.
Also, most cable operators claim they don’t want more basic channels, and the kind of content Colichman wants on Here! TV isn’t appropriate for basic cable. It’s “not adult content, it’s not erotica, but it is designed for a mature audience that pays for it and wants it,” he said.
The on-demand Here! TV is available to about 25 million subscribers. DirecTV Inc. and Dish Network offer it on PPV and RCN Corp. carries it as an SVOD service. Here! TV’s varied on-demand services are available to cable via InDemand and TVN, with Time Warner Cable in Wisconsin among those offering the VOD service.
On-demand pricing is in the neighborhood of $3.99 to $9.99.
Another premium service targeting the gay audience, Q Television Network, is slated to start doing live programming Oct. 14, CEO Frank Olsen said. Priced at $7.95 a month, it will be producing a three-hour live weeknight block, including a two-hour talk program and a sports show, that will get repeat airings.
Q Television is carried by RCN Corp. in San Francisco, and last week began being carried by all RCN’s systems, Olsen said. The network also has a hunting license carriage deal with Time Warner Cable.
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quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: Makes it harder for us unfortunately doesnt it? Has anyone been able to see Here! TV and QTE to compare?
As Whiz says, "all we need to do is launch." I'm sure the first station that does go national will be the one to survive. Matt
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You're right! The first one that truely goes national will have a leg up on the other two.
The shake out doesn't have to be so negative either. Look for a merger between two of them before a year & a half passes.
Remember, Frank has a history of getting media companies up & running before cashing in for a hefty profit!
This market is young & contrary to popular belief presently there's room enough for three. Yet only two are on the air. And only one of the two was mentioned by CNBC!
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I only wish for now that QTE's website was as nice as Logo's at least. Here!'s really impressed me. Matt
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I've been watching TV for over 40 years and made my first visit to a TV network website only after I bought QBID stock. At this point I'm more concerned about carriers and subscribers than I am about websites.
With an interactive show, QTN will be upgrading the website as needed.
Try to relax and enjoy the show. Isn't it wonderful to watch QBID's story unfold?
quote:Originally posted by Ric: Only thing that is getting me is I sold WNMI to buy some more Q too early. If I waited I could have bought twice as much, lol.
I've been watching TV for over 40 years and made my first visit to a TV network website only after I bought QBID stock. At this point I'm more concerned about carriers and subscribers than I am about websites.
With an interactive show, QTN will be upgrading the website as needed.
Try to relax and enjoy the show. Isn't it wonderful to watch QBID's story unfold?
GLTA!
I'm 55 & growing up I watched my father go to work every day for 30 years to ABCs channel 7 in Washington DC. I watched him & his co-workers help produce the most powerful communication medium in the history of humanity. Just look at the deal the NFL signed with CBS & FOX! And that was for just a fraction of overall TV airtime. Just two of the networks paying $8 Billion Dollars for some Sundays.
Yep! I'm thoroughly loving watching this unfold! After all,,,
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just came accross this from another board. if it's true, great for us. if it's not true now, keep fingers cross for it becomes true in the near future.
By: vegasdave85044 09 Nov 2004, 03:32 PM EST Msg. 624465 of 624783 Jump to msg. # schmoogie>> perhaps you are unaware of the contracts we currently have with Comcast/adelphia/TW??? The sat companies i am not sure of at this time. The PR will come when the back-office stuff is ready to go, such as inputting the programmin schedules...Until this is done we wait at the stop-light knowing it will eventually turn green!!
By: schmoogiepie 09 Nov 2004, 03:33 PM EST Msg. 624466 of 624783 (This msg. is a reply to 624465 by vegasdave85044.) Jump to msg. # vegas you know this as fact
By: vegasdave85044 09 Nov 2004, 03:35 PM EST Msg. 624471 of 624783 (This msg. is a reply to 624466 by schmoogiepie.) Jump to msg. # from what i was told--- YES
By: zandant 09 Nov 2004, 04:22 PM EST Msg. 624588 of 624783 (This msg. is a reply to 624511 by vegasdave85044.) Jump to msg. # vegas - in one of your earlier posts, you mentioned Comcast and Adelphia. Any word on those companies with respect to the timeline. Z
By: vegasdave85044 09 Nov 2004, 04:31 PM EST Msg. 624600 of 624784 (This msg. is a reply to 624588 by zandant.) Jump to msg. # after TW NYC Adelphia SB JAN--remember they have the BK with TW and comacast bidding so i'm not sure how that plays out with the contract talks
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I've been watching TV for over 40 years and made my first visit to a TV network website only after I bought QBID stock. At this point I'm more concerned about carriers and subscribers than I am about websites.
With an interactive show, QTN will be upgrading the website as needed.
Try to relax and enjoy the show. Isn't it wonderful to watch QBID's story unfold?
GLTA!
I am not an avid television watcher so I can't comment on how many network websites I visit. I have visited a few to get schedules for some of my favored shows.
What you need to think about however is the rising number of homosexuals that are using the internet. The internet is a place you can be faceless if need be so a lot more homosexuals are using the internet because it can be safer and less discriminating. http://www.whorlpool.905host.net/files/edarchive13.htm
That website estimates 22 million homosexuals will be using the internet in 2005. You also need to take into consideration the example of espn, msnbc, etc. All these networks have websites that they use to poll viewers on topics and then give the results of the viewers answers within minutes on the show. Since QTE will have a large live section that could be crucial. This also is a direct way to show advertisers just how large the viewing community is for QTE.
Just take for example, www.gay.com GO THERE RIGHT NOW! It's 2 am on the east coast so 11 pm on the west coast. Right now there are 21 THOUSAND people on the site RIGHT NOW. Then even more staggering is you can search through over 4.4 MILLION member profiles. That is just for that one website. So think about that.
If there are 34 million gay people in the US with a disposable income of 600 billion that averages to $17647 disposable income per person. So at this instant there is 370 million in disposable income spending time on gay.com. All together on gay.com there is a disposable income of 77 billion registered to that site. You'll notice that every major network website also has banner advertisements of some sort. This is just one more way for QBID to earn money.
To me, a professional website is extremely important. Sometimes people get jobs because they look intelligent and professional. That is how the world works.
But you are correct; at this point carriers and subscribers are more important. Although I'm sure for a small amount such as 10 grand; Frank could probably hire a firm to build the site for them without QTE having to look over their shoulder. Matt
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Just being on RCN, look how many potential people we can make aware of Q Television. Of course they're not all gay and of course they're not all signed up with RCN.
Population by city's that RCN supports.
NYC = 8,008,278 Chicago = 2,896,016 Philadelphia = 1,517,550 San Fransisco = 776,733 Boston = 589,141 Washington DC = 572,059
Total People Q Telelvision will be viewable for is 14,359,777!!
quote:Originally posted by 1BigTip: Just being on RCN, look how many potential people we can make aware of Q Television. Of course they're not all gay and of course they're not all signed up with RCN.
Population by city's that RCN supports.
NYC = 8,008,278 Chicago = 2,896,016 Philadelphia = 1,517,550 San Fransisco = 776,733 Boston = 589,141 Washington DC = 572,059
Total People Q Telelvision will be viewable for is 14,359,777!!
Hard to look at this value though. You don't pay for a fishing channel if you dont like fishing.
QBID no longer oversold? Should we expect to see some green in the near future? Matt
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Basically if a stock is oversold it means traders have literally oversold the stock and driven the price down below what the stock should really be valued at. Overbought is the opposite in that traders drove the price too high above what the value should be.
So for us QBIDers this is a good thing because if a stock is oversold there is usally a rebound in price once the selling slows. Matt
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One more reason to get launched and update the website; gay.com just put out an article today about the Network War between Logo, QTE, and Here!. Possibility of 4.4 million homosexual people learning about QTE. The article is slanted more towards the Here! side probably cause it launched first. We need to get the ball rolling here. Pretty soon Logo will be in the market too. Here's the article:
Gaywatch: Battle of the gay networks by Christine Champagne
Most of you have likely heard about the impending launch of Logo. It's not exactly a surprise, given that the gay cable network enjoys the cachet and promotional muscle of its parent company Viacom. But there are two gay start-up networks already out there -- here! TV and Q Television Network -- that have gotten a jump on establishing identities and attracting viewers, and if you are one of those TV junkies who can't get enough gay programming, you might want to check them out.
Here! TV was the first to hit the airwaves, debuting in 2002 with a limited schedule before going 24/7 this month. Available to satellite and cable operators through In Demand and TVN and offered as a VOD, SVOD or pay-per-view service, here! TV recently expanded its reach to cable households in Boston, Chicago, Milwaukee, New York City, San Francisco and Washington, D.C.
Founded by Stephen Jarchow and Paul Colichman -- who are also the founders of Regent Entertainment, a film studio in Los Angeles -- here! TV's claim to fame thus far has been its massive library of gay and lesbian programming. The network's collection recently increased when here! acquired the U.S. television broadcasting rights to the gay and lesbian titles in MGM's film library. Among them are "Longtime Companion," "Go Fish" and "Jeffrey."
Here! TV has also generated new content, producing a series of original movies, including the upcoming "Too Cool for Christmas." Billed as the first-ever gay-themed family holiday special, "Too Cool for Christmas" premieres in December and stars George Hamilton, Brooke Nevin and Donna Mills. Directed by openly gay director Sam Irvin, the film tells the story of a girl who would rather spend the holidays with her boyfriend than her two dads.
As for original series, here! TV's efforts range from the gay and lesbian gothic horror thriller "Dante's Cove" to "Here! Family," a 12-episode series hosted by Michelle Darne and inspired by her magazine "And Baby."
"The gay and lesbian community has embraced us because we offer them the broad array of entertaining, original and exclusive content that they've been searching for -- but not finding enough of -- on multichannel television," says Colichman, who is president of the network.
Like here! TV, Q Television Network, a premium service launched in September 2004 and available in various markets through RCN, offers a mix of acquired and original programming. Among the network's original programs are a talk show called "Women on Women" and "Q on the Move," a gay travel series. It also produced a documentary on gay marriage entitled "I Will, I Do, We Did."
A wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi Media, Q Television Network also just announced that it has obtained the rights to air live and taped coverage of Gay Games VII, which take place in Chicago from July 15 to 22, 2006.
According to executive vice president Steven Grunberg, Q Television Network stands out because it strives to truly serve the LGBT community.
"This [network] is built by and for the gay community. Rather than a smattering of stereotyped gay characters offered because current market projections indicate it would be profitable, we offer a channel that will unite the gay and lesbian audience through a network that educates, entertains and informs," Grunberg says.
Can the market support a trio of networks that all aim to support the same niche audience? Probably not. Only one or two of these endeavors is likely to survive. But until the inevitable shakeout occurs, the LGBT audience can enjoy a plethora of choices when it comes to gay-oriented programming.
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Can someone explain why Logo is at .55 and has not aired yet but Q television which did air is at .0027?
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Ouch. This business needs to move a little more quickly than I thought.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: logo has viacom backing it. its parent already has contrcts with every cable company out there and can force them to add it to the line-up
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what with .0026? am crying my heart out. can anyone pump the spirit up a bit !!! whoever moron selling these? not swing ppl on these prices - not other holders cuz they lose their shirts. maybe the mm's wanna cover their short.
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Q Television Network signs $1 Million in Sponsorships Wednesday November 10, 1:46 pm ET Gay Life Expo Attendance Results in Sponsorships, Subscribers and a Potential Carrier Deal
PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 10, 2004--Q Television Network (Pink Sheets:QBID - News), announced today that the company had great success at the Gay Life Expo in New York City. The network secured $1 Million plus in sponsorships and also signed up several hundred potential subscribers. "The Gay Life Expo was a great forum for us to showcase our offerings to hundreds of potential viewers. We are thrilled with the connections we made at the Expo," said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. "In addition, we are in the process of expanding into many major markets and negotiating with other major cable carriers."
Q Television's explosive growth continues as the company is also in the process of finalizing the deal for its 4000 title movie library. Q Television is now live in San Francisco, Manhattan and Boston on Channel 255.
About Q Television Network
Q Television Network is an AFFILIATE of Triangle Multi Media. Q Television was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. The company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population. Management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those interested in its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. The network will be available across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico, through satellite distribution.
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