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hey boils down to the basics you only invest what you can loose. I cant feel sorry for someone that looses the farm becasue they over extended themselves
quote:Originally posted by sailor: [QUOTE]Originally posted by firefly: [b]Fair enough,,We are down. But it's a choice. Average down,buy high or low sell etc..If I loose my ass it's my decision. Right or wrong.I am down ,OH Well. Life goes on. Don't invest what you can't afford to loose.
could afford to lose the 8 k I put in but there are others out there who cannot. Stock holder lose faith in a company who does not do what they say.they will. It;s Franks turn to put up or shut up.[/B][/QUOTE]
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Pinks aren't too risky for me...Cause I don't hold overnight if possible at all....But when multiple pr's are misleading and lieing, then it is a concern. What you must understand is that the people on the boards that talk bad about qbid is not to make you lose money, or make the price fall, its to let new investors have a good idea what is going on and even more to expose and keep the fat con man in perspective and in the light.......
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quote:Originally posted by brandwilliams: Pinks aren't too risky for me...Cause I don't hold overnight if possible at all....But when multiple pr's are misleading and lieing, then it is a concern. What you must understand is that the people on the boards that talk bad about qbid is not to make you lose money, or make the price fall, its to let new investors have a good idea what is going on and even more to expose and keep the fat con man in perspective and in the light.......
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I said this on my other favorite penny GZFX and here too I think, the penny market is down as a whole. You can't blame Q on the market. All the pennies are down and down by huge amounts. I own several real good pennies and they are down by about the same percentage. I think Q will be one of those that bounce quick when the penny market makes a turn and it will soon but not until after the elections. Its a good time to buy. If we hold strong our downturn won't be as bad. It can';t go down if no one sells at a lower price. One thing I do agree with is the stock buyback. I think it is the wrong time to buy back when we need all the money to get going in more areas and to get better programming. I have a hard time believing that Frank just spent $300,000 when we are trying to be the best network out there. Because, is the little effect it will have on stock value right now worth not making a better network? Well JMHO.
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That is why we have an open forum. As I said earlier again and again,,do your DD, make your own decisions and don't invest what you can't afford to loose.
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Thanks RIc,,I was wondering about the other pennys,,I have looked at a few of the boards. Makes sense.
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for instance Brandon could go back and edit his post so the quote looks right. dam you look like you are drunk Posts: 4801 | From: Prescott, ON, Canada | Registered: May 2004
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Ric, I agree that a lot of pennies are down over all, but QBID is down because of promises broken and deadlines not met. Frank is the reason QBID is down, not the market. GZFX is down because they have crappy customer service and a website that is a mess. I use to have faith in that company also, but after subscribing to them and seeing their customer service first hand, I can see why investors have lost confidence in them. I canceled their service after a month it was so bad. You can blame some pennies for being down on the market in general, but QBID and GZFX are down because investors have lost confidence in them.
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Its good to see you posting again Brandon. I have even seen futuresobjective posting every now and then. You guys still having stock chat every now and then?
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Thats bull. Plain and simple. Pennies are risky in general and yes they are small dogs in a big world. It will take time for both of them to get everything right and up to speed. I hate it when people think a new business, on a national level, can start today and be perfect in 6 months. Netflicks took 2 years to work the bugs out and BET took years to get there Network going. But no, they are not the best right now so they must be mis-managed, give me a break. If you don't like Q and GZFX then it doesn't bother me. I will be the richer at the end. But, I also own ONEV, MLON, they are down the same percentage and you can check most all the major pennies and they are down too. Well ONEV is down less but still down. So why are they down that much if its not the market.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by kbpkt: Ric, I agree that a lot of pennies are down over all, but QBID is down because of promises broken and deadlines not met. Frank is the reason QBID is down, not the market. GZFX is down because they have crappy customer service and a website that is a mess. I use to have faith in that company also, but after subscribing to them and seeing their customer service first hand, I can see why investors have lost confidence in them. I canceled their service after a month it was so bad. You can blame some pennies for being down on the market in general, but QBID and GZFX are down because investors have lost confidence in them.
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Yes,,QBID confidence is a big issue,,I agree. Technical and deadline issues,,I still think we are in baby steps right now.
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I respect you so I am gonna answer in as good a manner as I can... They are down cause they are pennies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many BB or pink stocks you ever seen continuously go up cause of good management and profits...They go down unless a pr is out for that day or they go up if there is a pump on...Thats it.....Otherwise they go down either fast or slow...Just depending on the run the day before or the run earlier that morning...
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now you sound like the prime minister of Canada lol
quote:Originally posted by brandwilliams: Ric,
I respect you so I am gonna answer in as good a manner as I can... They are down cause they are pennies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many BB or pink stocks you ever seen continuously go up cause of good management and profits...They go down unless a pr is out for that day or they go up if there is a pump on...Thats it.....Otherwise they go down either fast or slow...Just depending on the run the day before or the run earlier that morning...
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the proof of the proof is proof of the proof that is in the proof. any questions.
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I agree also. I am not saying they are perfect. I think Frank has many problems of wanting too much too quickly and telling stockholder information he thinks will happen instead of what will happen. I disagree totally on GZFX though because they are working hard to make up for there short comings of only 2 distrubution centers. But thats me.
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quote:Originally posted by brandwilliams: Ric,
I respect you so I am gonna answer in as good a manner as I can... They are down cause they are pennies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many BB or pink stocks you ever seen continuously go up cause of good management and profits...They go down unless a pr is out for that day or they go up if there is a pump on...Thats it.....Otherwise they go down either fast or slow...Just depending on the run the day before or the run earlier that morning...
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Thats bull. Plain and simple. Pennies are risky in general and yes they are small dogs in a big world. It will take time for both of them to get everything right and up to speed. I hate it when people think a new business, on a national level, can start today and be perfect in 6 months. Netflicks took 2 years to work the bugs out and BET took years to get there Network going. But no, they are not the best right now so they must be mis-managed, give me a break. If you don't like Q and GZFX then it doesn't bother me. I will be the richer at the end. But, I also own ONEV, MLON, they are down the same percentage and you can check most all the major pennies and they are down too. Well ONEV is down less but still down. So why are they down that much if its not the market.
Ric
I have to say that is bull, Ric. I also own MLON and am down a lot on that one. I will be the first to admit there is tons of investor confidence problems with that one. I own many millions of shares in that and am down thousands on it. As of now, MLON and Mario Pino have zero credibility. Lets see if we get our WSS shares this week like promised. Check over on the MLON thread for some DD I posted over there today. I am sorry if all the stock you have invested in are down, but I see tons of winners every day. I know its convenient to blame the market in general, but 3 out of the 4 stocks you have mentioned are terribly flawed. I do not know much about the other to tell you anything on that. The ONLY stock I can think of off the top of my head that makes no sense being down, that you can maybe blame the market on is TFCT. My portfolio is down right now too, but I am not blaming the market for it. Hind sight is always 20/20, but I can see the flaws in the companies I am losing in right now and understand why they are down. If I turned a blind eye on why I am down, or blamed my porfolio on the market over all, instead of the flaws that brought my stocks down, how can I learn from my mistakes to ensure I don't make them again?
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All I am saying though is if these were perfect companies with great leaders they wouldn't be pennies to begin with. Your right in the respect to your questions of Frank telling one thing and it not happening. But I don't think he is really meaning to lie. He just tells us what he hopes instead of facts. As far as the other its a new company and has speed problems and yes it won't take off till its worked out but they are trying there best to do that. I really believe if they continue to work hard to the end they can make it. Thats all.
Ric
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But pennies are pennies. They are here for a reason. And I truly believe its the market more then any other factor or all the pennies wouldn't be effected. Yes Q has problems but they are a penny. As I said if they were a perfect model they would be here to start with. Knowing that when they were up, why are they down now. Its the Market. When this stock exploded back in April, all those in this knew abot the previous failure. So to say its a new problem and thats why its down is wrong. The penny market is down because investor are not willing to get into the risky market right now.
Ric
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I can agree with you on the potential factor, but not the market factor. Maybe things can change with hard work, but for now, they stand where they are for internal company reasons.
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GOOD EDUCATION BUT NO STOCK RELATED TALK.
GO DIRECTLY TO PAGE 7 ABOUT 3 QUARTERS OF THE WAY DONW.
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i agree
this is a lot of work to put into a scam. if you wanted to scam you would have a pefectly laid out sequence of events. Reality is stranger then fiction and we are experiencing the reality of trying to start a new network by a small fish in a large tank so to speak. we are seeing what an up hill climb this project is really like. Delays are inevitable, and deadlines will be broken. over and over again. there is more to starting a station then to flick on a switch and a way you go. Im off for tonight have a great day
quote:Originally posted by Ric: kbpkt,
All I am saying though is if these were perfect companies with great leaders they wouldn't be pennies to begin with. Your right in the respect to your questions of Frank telling one thing and it not happening. But I don't think he is really meaning to lie. He just tells us what he hopes instead of facts. As far as the other its a new company and has speed problems and yes it won't take off till its worked out but they are trying there best to do that. I really believe if they continue to work hard to the end they can make it. Thats all.
Ric
EDIT = TOP WARNING.
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KB, There are so many factors happening right now. It is definently not black and white.
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