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I know, King... think I'm still bruised from the last time I tried to bring this topic up.
I won't go into a deep conversation about this again.
Folks, information is available through the sec of state...I received paperwork from CA regarding Triangle....you can, too. You can compare addresses, names and phone numbers yourself.
I was sooo hoping being mentioned on CNBC would have a positive effect on QBID!! Perhaps we'll get more coverage tomorrow.
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Just spoke with Troy. He doesn't seem to know much. The best he could do was say BOTH Triangle Multimedia AND Q Television Network are subsidiaries, BOTH under the ticker symbol, QBID. When I questioned him if I understood that correctly, he said, "At least that's what the attorneys have said." I specifically asked if Triangle OWNED QTN, and he said no, and reiterated his previous explanation.
He said to get better info, I should email QTN, and I responded by telling him I have heard of NO ONE who has gotten an email answered.
That's all I got.
Oh, and when I asked about QTN going public, he said he did not have that information.
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Well, I don't worry about those things. But I will say one truth, until Q becomes a reporting company no serious investor will take it serious. And without the serious investors we will never see the pps we want. As far as the other, its a rumor from the rumor mill. I can't take it serious but I understand why someone should question it though since we don't report and Frank refuses to give us simple important information. Such as A/S, O/S, and finanial information. Stockholders have a right to that information. If he does monitor the other message board and has a crony posting on it then why doesn't he answer the rumors?
My key thought here is, as long as they keep us in the dark we will never see the big bucks we all deserve. I think this will be big but no one will take this stock for what it could be until we get some basic information. If what I say isn't true then why are we not higher now with all the stuff thats happening. We are on the air, Great promo, made a major news network, and we have been advertised on all the major gay/lesbian web sites and newspapers. So why the low pps, its because we don't report basic information that a serious investor needs to make a good investment. The market drove the pps down. The events of the past month should have drove us back IMO.
By the way, I am tired of promises of becoming a reporting company when we can't even get truthful info on A/S and O/S. We don't have to be reporting for him to give us that info.
Ric
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i was told by scott that all he could say was triangle multimedia ltd, and q television network inc are 2 seperate corporations in washington state.
he does not know if one owns the other.
he does not know if the corporations are private or public.
he does know corporate officers--spelling of frank's last name is correct on each of the corporations.
he does know that both corporations are currently active and up-to-date with their state filings (not delinquent).
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...oh, and that 50b a/s is for real--not just speculation--and like it or not, it does assign a value to qbid
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WinsumLosesum Member posted October 20, 2004 14:47 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just spoke with Troy. He said to get better info, I should email QTN, and I responded by telling him I have heard of NO ONE who has gotten an email answered.
Ric Member posted October 20, 2004 14:51 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, I am tired of promises of becoming a reporting company when we can't even get truthful info on A/S and O/S. Ric
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ya think this might be a good question for his little info talk, the invester phone call? i held stock in a company applied digital its the parent company it also has sub companies that are public. 1 is digital angel. applied is .40 pps, digital was around $2.50 last i looked......being pink & no idea how much of the 50 billion is o/s hurts but since frank issued a pr stating a 2% buy back and the last he mentioned the o/s it was around 7 1/2 billion and a few rumors about 9 1/2 billion i'd guess most of the a/s has not been issued
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Q Television Network Announces Live Signal up in Boston, MA; Network Will Now Focus Its Efforts on Chicago, IL 10/20/2004 3:30:00 PM
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Oct 20, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Q Television Network (Pink Sheets: QBID), announced today that its signal is live in Boston, MA via RCN. All interested consumers should call their local cable provider for programming details. Q Television is now live in San Francisco, Manhattan, and on Channel 255 in Boston.
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"It is so exciting to see my dream becoming a reality," said Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network. "As I have said time and time again, our goal is to provide quality community programming for the gay, lesbian and the curious audience. Our next targeted city is Chicago, IL."
Q Television Network will offer a combination of original and acquired programming, which includes sports, fashion, travel, health & fitness, talk shows, plays, documentaries and movies. Q Television is unique in that it was built by and for the gay community. The company offers a channel that will unite the gay and lesbian audience through a network that educates, entertains and informs.
About Q Television Network
Q Television is AN AFFILIATE of Triangle Multi Media. Q Television Network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community. The company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population. But, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming will be available on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
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As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
SOURCE: Q Television Network
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quote:Originally posted by King Crimson: i was told by scott that all he could say was triangle multimedia ltd, and q television network inc are 2 seperate corporations in washington state.
he does not know if one owns the other.
he does not know if the corporations are private or public.
he does know corporate officers--spelling of frank's last name is correct on each of the corporations.
he does know that both corporations are currently active and up-to-date with their state filings (not delinquent).
...again, draw your own conclusions.....
Thanks King for the post. This subject is very heavy today. Q television and Triangle are two seperate entity - hmmm, if Q is private and possible go public or even a buy out, I could lose the entire Qbid. In other case, I might want to sell 80% of my position and put in ttcs just to protect my interest. should i do that? heck, in for long, so forget the oil. Go Q van
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With all of these questions floating around we still have to contend with MM manipulation. With so many shares outstanding this one is probably heavily shorted at this point.
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I'm glad to see big cities are getting QTN now. Chicago will be an excellent market for Q! Higher income, higher numbers of g/l (I'd assume ), and a broader audience... Posts: 3727 | Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:Originally posted by King Crimson: i was told by scott that all he could say was triangle multimedia ltd, and q television network inc are 2 seperate corporations in washington state.
he does not know if one owns the other.
he does not know if the corporations are private or public.
he does know corporate officers--spelling of frank's last name is correct on each of the corporations.
he does know that both corporations are currently active and up-to-date with their state filings (not delinquent).
...again, draw your own conclusions.....
Here we go again! The Triangle Multimedia LIMITED incorporated in 1951 by Frank OlsOn. Nuff said!
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quote:Originally posted by sunny: With all of these questions floating around we still have to contend with MM manipulation. With so many shares outstanding this one is probably heavily shorted at this point.
Frank needs to get off of the pinks!
I think we'll find that Q-Television Network and Triangle Multi-Media are one and the same, at least for all intents and purposes.
Conisder this part of a recent PR:
Thursday September 23, 3:25 pm ET
PALM SPRINGS, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 23, 2004--Q Television Network, (Pink Sheets: QBID - News). Q Television Network today announced that its board of directors approved the first round of buy-backs for QBID common stock, beginning with two percent of its outstanding shares of common and/or preferred stock within the next six weeks.
Notice it says Q Television Network, (Pink Sheets: QBID - News). That sure implies that Q Television Netwokr and QBID are the same thing. If not, I'm saving this PR as it will be evidence of a clear case of fraud.
Q Television is AN AFFILIATE of Triangle Multi Media. Q Television Network was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing television programming for the gay and lesbian community.
quote:Originally posted by kommoncents: Here we go again! The Triangle Multimedia LIMITED incorporated in 1951 by Frank OlsOn. Nuff said!
This company did increase the A/S to 50 billion....but it is not OUR company. The SecState of WA was clear about this. Funny how this comes back out again after so many positive things working for QBID.
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Well I don't know if I believe the rumors but as far as the 1951 statement, I believe Frank bought this company (A gay/lesbian radio). So it could have been around for while before Frank bought it. A o e could be a mispelling which happens. Not to say any of its true but It could be too.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by kommoncents: Here we go again! The Triangle Multimedia LIMITED incorporated in 1951 by Frank OlsOn. Nuff said!
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quote:Originally posted by kommoncents: Here we go again! The Triangle Multimedia LIMITED incorporated in 1951 by Frank OlsOn. Nuff said!
That does not mean it was incorporated BY Frank, it means that he now runs it. If I remember right, Frank did not start Triangle, he took it over. If you check the filings for Ford Motor Company, it will tell you who runs it NOW, Henry Ford will not be on there although he started it. These two entities are run by the same Frank Olson, regardless of the mispelling on one of them.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Well I don't know if I believe the rumors but as far as the 1951 statement, I believe Frank bought this company (A gay/lesbian radio). So it could have been around for while before Frank bought it. A o e could be a mispelling which happens. Not to say any of its true but It could be too.
Ric
There is no Triangle Multimedia LIMITED in Frank OLSEN's name in California. We beat this dead horse already. We are Triangle Mulitimedia INC.....not LIMITED....and there are two different incorporation dates as well as the licensing for Q Television Network in California.
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These are buys going through guys, and some nice ones. I'm not sure if it was whiz or Big that posted the volume increases from the April run but.....It sure looks familiar to me. Anyone else? Posts: 8024 | From: Joisey....see attitude above | Registered: Jan 2004
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I AM GOING TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THE CORPORATE BUSINESS QUESTION.
I AM REALITY INCORPORATED SINCE 1991. I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESS ENITIES INCORPORATED UNDER REALITY INC. #1. FORREST PARK CHILD CARE CENTER. #2. HELPING HANDS A TEENAGE EMERGENCY SHELTER #3. REALITYINC PRIVATE PLACEMENT CORP FOR TEENS IN FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.
THESE ARE 3 SEPARATE BUSINESSES ALL UNDER ONE CORPORATE NAME--REALITY INCORPORATED. THREE SEPARATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THREE SEPARATE ENITIES. IN FACT I CAN SELL FORREST PARK CHILD CARE CENTER AND THIS WILL NOT EFFECT THE TWO OTHER OPERATING BUSINESSES.
QBID IS A PUBLIC COMPANY NOW. IT CAN NOT. I REPEAT CAN NOT GO PUBLIC AGAIN. LOL QBID IS QTN.
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It would be easy to correct if Frank would comment. Instead he efuses to answer questions on it. All I am saying is I know this is a RB rumor and the O/S and A/S has all kinds of rumors. So why can't the stockholders get this basic info from our company.
Ric
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quote:Originally posted by kommoncents: This company did increase the A/S to 50 billion....but it is not OUR company. The SecState of WA was clear about this. Funny how this comes back out again after so many positive things working for QBID.
Actually the WA Sec of State was clear about it, it is one and the same. You seem to be the only one unable to understand that. A member of this board ordered the report and cleared it up for us, but you resorted to name calling her and intimidating her, so she stopped posting about it.
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I agree with you, just meant that this won't go away until Frank puts it to rest. I believe its a rumor but it will hurt us until it comes from the horses mouth.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by kommoncents: There is no Triangle Multimedia LIMITED in Frank OLSEN's name in California. We beat this dead horse already. We are Triangle Mulitimedia INC.....not LIMITED....and there are two different incorporation dates as well as the licensing for Q Television Network in California.
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quote:Originally posted by kbpkt: That does not mean it was incorporated BY Frank, it means that he now runs it. If I remember right, Frank did not start Triangle, he took it over. If you check the filings for Ford Motor Company, it will tell you who runs it NOW, Henry Ford will not be on there although he started it. These two entities are run by the same Frank Olson, regardless of the mispelling on one of them.
Please Scan and post your proof of these two Triangles being one in the same and "just a misspelling of Olson".......Thank you.
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quote:Originally posted by kbpkt: Actually the WA Sec of State was clear about it, it is one and the same. You seem to be the only one unable to understand that. A member of this board ordered the report and cleared it up for us, but you resorted to name calling her and intimidating her, so she stopped posting about it.
UH....when did she receive it Jack Off??? When was it posted???
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quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: I AM GOING TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THE CORPORATE BUSINESS QUESTION.
I AM REALITY INCORPORATED SINCE 1991. I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESS ENITIES INCORPORATED UNDER REALITY INC. #1. FORREST PARK CHILD CARE CENTER. #2. HELPING HANDS A TEENAGE EMERGENCY SHELTER #3. REALITYINC PRIVATE PLACEMENT CORP FOR TEENS IN FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.
THESE ARE 3 SEPARATE BUSINESSES ALL UNDER ONE CORPORATE NAME--REALITY INCORPORATED. THREE SEPARATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THREE SEPARATE ENITIES. IN FACT I CAN SELL FORREST PARK CHILD CARE CENTER AND THIS WILL NOT EFFECT THE TWO OTHER OPERATING BUSINESSES.
QBID IS A PUBLIC COMPANY NOW. IT CAN NOT. I REPEAT CAN NOT GO PUBLIC AGAIN. LOL QBID IS QTN.
quote:Originally posted by kbpkt: Actually the WA Sec of State was clear about it, it is one and the same. You seem to be the only one unable to understand that. A member of this board ordered the report and cleared it up for us, but you resorted to name calling her and intimidating her, so she stopped posting about it.
You are absolutely wrong...I called the sec state of washington and Q Television Network and Triangle Multimedia LIMITED are 2 different companies with not relation to each other....go back and learn how to read the previous posts...Are you U4???? Basher.
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Kommon...yes it is our company--Triangle Multimedia. The President/Chairman of the Boards is Frank....If you received the paperwork from WA regarding this particular company (yes the one with 50 billion a/s), you would clearly see that the names and phone numbers listed are to our Q. The phone number listed is the same number we phone to speak to Frank and the address is Palm Sprngs, CA....and Rene Schenk is listed as Secretary and Treasurer.
All you have to do is spend $5.00 to see for yourself.
BTW, I thought you requested this info last time this was brought up. I thought you were researching QTN in CA?
Again, I don't know what the ramification is right now. I believe Frank needs to explain and clarify.
The state of incorporation is WA, as stated on the pink sheets website. Some of the data on here is outdated, but that part is not. It also shows that QBID was a shell company that Frank took over, QBID was the ticker symbol for two other companies before Frank took it over. I think Dianna answered the question of Q Television going public as a seperate entity very well above. It can't. That was never my premise. I am just saying that all these companies are run under Frank, including the one in WA that you refuse to accept.
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I just think it should be easy for Frank to say in PR that:
QTV and QBID are one and the same A/S = ******** O/S = ********
He knows these are the major issues bothering stockholders so why not address them directly and put it to rest. To be honest, I would love to buy more QBID then I have right now. At these prices it should be a steal. But I can't until I know the A/S and O/S. Dilution is needed to get a new company going sometimes. 7.5 Billion was in writting in Feb 2004. Someone told us it went to 9.5 but don't know that to be true. But 2 Billion sounds like a reasonable dilution to get us on a satelite and buy movies to air. But who knows. Could it have been 5 billion, 10 billion, 1 billion, 3 billion. No one knows for sure because they refuse to tell us. That information is important to me to decide on whether to buy more shares or not. Or even to sell my shares. And this above all is holding our pps down because no one knows and it scares new investors when they don't know this simple fundimental information.
That said, I won't sell my remaining shares just on the gamble this does make it.
Ric
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quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Did anyone read this? READ THIS........
Thank you for the post. Obviously we have people that want to beat this thing down. Interestingly enough, if you call the Sec State of WA, they have Q Television Network listed with 75000 A/ S....atleast this is what the service rep told me...it was at the time when their phone was ringing off the hook!!! Bashers are coming out of the woodwork again..........Frank OLSEN must be doing something right!!!
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