quote:Originally posted by noahltl: Tomorrow DW, if that is the real date. Still only have OTC BB to rely on. If it is the payment date, it may not show up in accounts until Monday.
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dwman, with all due respect, notice who is the perpetrator here, note time of my post vs. his:
Waveslider Member posted September 22, 2004 21:26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO BUY CMKX UPSIDE, WALLY, WILL AND ALL THE OTHER BABY'S THAT NEED ANSWER'S (GO GET A JOB YOUR IN THE WRONG GAME)
Now the fact that he chooses to hide behind a new identity, and the fact that he was clearly on the attack, makes him highly irrelevant to me.
quote:Originally posted by dwman: Will, with all due respect, let me remind you that you once chastized me severely for objecting to one whom I felt was bashing this stock. You told me I was in the wrong league. I have watched you posts since then and have grown to understand that you often have a lot of good common sense opinions. However, now you seem to be getting very personal. Nobody is irrelevant. I'm sure you don't just decide to buy a stock based on its pps. I'm sure you do extensive DD and take a very good look at fundamentals. Just as there are different styles of learning, there are different ways to learn about a stock. Technicians are visual. What's wrong with using what best fits one's needs when learning about a potential investment. JMO
Will, keep posting. I respect your opinion. I don't respect your personal attacks.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Come on noahltl, this thread is getting boring. Maybe I can get a few posters whipped up! Looks like CMKX is a bit frosted, huh? LOL
Reminds me of a horsefly just as cold weather begins to set in. Cannot suck blood as much and slows down considerably. LOL
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Wallace#1, I think everyone is waiting for tommorow. I know nothing has to happen for sure in the way of dividends but if nothing does happen tomorrow, with all the build-up and anticpation we have in the investor community, I think we could see trading at the $.0002 level most of the day. MO
quote:Waveslider Member posted September 22, 2004 21:26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO BUY CMKX UPSIDE, WALLY, WILL AND ALL THE OTHER BABY'S THAT NEED ANSWER'S (GO GET A JOB YOUR IN THE WRONG GAME)
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noah, will, uspide, glassman do i have to put ALL of you in timeout moo? your always fighting with eachother! its like the battle of the wills and wits to see who is macho!
milk the moo you get milk? no silly everyone knows moo gives diamonds not milk what you thinking moooooo
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Good catch, Upman. It does ressemble Doji man. The 45M is a little off, he had 78M. but I suspect he sold some off for profit and a free position. I followed Doji. He was good, we both got killed in PAVP/CDVJ, but everyone picks a bad one. If I had the energy I'd go back to those PAVP/CDVJ threads and look for CMF arguement there. It just isn't important enough. BTW, close .0003
quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Waveslider: Doji say what?!!
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the only direction this stock is going is UP...look how low it is and even IF you nay sayers are right just the pure soon to be hype will make it rise....lots of you just dont know how to play the game do you
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noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts
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bill, I don't know. Don't have L2 on pinks.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: noah, will, uspide, glassman do i have to put ALL of you in timeout moo? your always fighting with eachother! its like the battle of the wills and wits to see who is macho!
milk the moo you get milk? no silly everyone knows moo gives diamonds not milk what you thinking moooooo
so glad to see yooo we worry about the mooo we hate the insurgents toooo hoping for your PR that is new....
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts
JEFF was out. NITE has never left, just sits below the high on ask. He was sitting at .0004 today.
quote:Originally posted by will: Good catch, Upman. It does ressemble Doji man. The 45M is a little off, he had 78M. but I suspect he sold some off for profit and a free position. I followed Doji. He was good, we both got killed in PAVP/CDVJ, but everyone picks a bad one. If I had the energy I'd go back to those PAVP/CDVJ threads and look for CMF arguement there. It just isn't important enough. BTW, close .0003
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well i'll be dam*ed you guy's pegged me out..lol
waveslider is DOJI SAY WHAT!!! till i got in to it with the admin over a funny photo i posted. i thought it was funny ALLSTOCKS ADMIN didn't.
about the baby comment - SORRY IT WAS RASH & uncalled for.
cdvj Will THAT PLAY DID HURT THE BANK. I have 43,800 worthless csjj learned alot from that tanker & divy
78mil down to 45mil is where i'm at and there almost free... going even 50mil till the end of the year.
from DOJI SAY WHAT!!! I'M BACKKKKKKKKKK
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netsec wrote (edited): I think we could see trading at the $.0002 level most of the day. MO --------------------------------------------- Wouldn't surprise me if it hits .0002 and bounces off .0001 tomorrow, no matter what, if anything at all, comes out re the div. This thing doesn't do anything but go down on any kind of news lately.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Waveslider: Welcome back Doji. If I pizz you off, just let me know. We can play point/counter point.
(NO on the point/counter point)
MY TYPING SKILLS SUCK... AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT COMMENT upside & will. wally you still suck....
doji say what / waveslider here in central florida where we are about to see our 2nd hurricane strike.. this time we are staying
wow this is a crazy year & that is why cmkx will pop...
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This is A post worth reading..........by elcamino
As they say colloquially, the silence is deafening. We appear to be in a CMKX deprivation chamber void of information.
The biggest complaint right now from shareholders seems to be the lack of news to substantiate the rumors of cash dividends and a reason to celebrate at the Las Vegas Shareholder’s Party. Only now, we are beginning to realize that there may not be a reason to celebrate as the company moves towards building the fundamental elements needed to become a fully reporting company that can then report on its assets and its value. It is certainly possible, since I am a man of hope to think that there may be a reason for going to Las Vegas. A reason obviously is not enough people need cash to get there. Whether we will have that cash available is hard for anyone to say. I will be there since Las Vegas is only a stone’s throw from California. I am still hoping to see as many of you there as possible.
As I see it, there is Old Business and New Business at work in CMKX. The old business revolves around “cleaning house” and removing the cobwebs from deals consummated two years ago by CMKX. Some of these deals required pay offs and others just simply were cancelled. I will not go through the long list of expected ventures from those days, but everyone can go back to those PR’s and check it out. I strongly believe that Mr. John Ed Dhonau from Nevada Minerals rescued CMKX shareholders and assisted Urban in getting out of some potentially bad deals at the time after he and Urban became acquainted with one another. Mr. Dhonau has an impeccable reputation in the business world. He does compliance enforcement for the SEC, and is held in high regard by both government and industry. We are fortunate to have him on our team.
After some discussions, I realized that the two-year restriction on many of the restricted shares held by the 9000 or so registered shareholders are due to mature. The process of accounting for these shares and determining who got them and who did not has taken some time. This was the topic of a past press release. I believe accountability of these shares is complete and now the company has to determine whether to release the restrictions on them or not. With these restrictions lifted, the possibility of seeing these shares sold on the open market would appear to average shareholder as if the CMKX was selling shares. Most of the certificates are in Urban’s name held for the individuals. So anyone checking through a broker or market maker would be advised that this is the case.
On the other hand, the question of a naked short sell has been a topic of contention as well. Several people that I have spoken with including a market maker that I contacted by phone has confirmed the short. The question is just how large is the short position with CMKX. If anyone wants to really know, what I think about the short position then I will refer you to post # 59120 made by Oaks on August 4th in Sterling’s Classroom on Raging Bull. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=59120
I do not believe that we have an extremely large short but there is a short. In a nutshell when we see a filing I believe we may see a different share structure than what we have been previously led to believe.
Today we saw Jeffries and Company disappear from the Level 2 quotes and some shareholders have even called to confirm that they can no longer make a market for CMKX. It was just a matter of time. We will see how long this lasts and if in fact, it is what it is. As we have seen, the volume is low and it appears that availability of shares is becoming scarce. This just a couple of days before the UCAD dividend appear in our accounts. This is an indication that we are very close to seeing the Casavant Maneuver (Oaks) in all its glory. As I indicated at one point, the Casavant Maneuver is Specific, Pertinent, Applicable and Measurable. As it all comes together what I look forward to seeing is the measurable aspect of the maneuver. That is the point were we could begin to measure the results through an increase in the price per share.
Under Old Business, also have the CIM shares issued to shareholders a year ago. Those who were in CMKX back then will be coming up on their one-year anniversary with those shares shortly. It is my understanding that those shares have tremendous value and potential especially since those people will be receiving new shares of the CIM dividend in addition to what they received last year. If unrestricted when CIM goes public those shares will give value to those that have the extra shares. Reason enough to hang around and see where this all goes.
The New Business centers on new deals and new companies that we have yet to even imagine or speculate. As we saw recently the public emergence of St. George’s Metals Inc. left us all dumbfounded. No one knew anything about this company or that it was about to go public at the end of a 30 day quiet period. Well what if a quite period is still in effect awaiting the emergence of more deals and more companies. At this point, that is the most likely scenario as we draw closer to becoming a fully reporting company and our associations with Nevada Minerals and U. S. Canadian Minerals flourishes and grows stronger each day.
Today we received a press release concerning the delivery of the third $2.5M installment of the $10M dollar deal with SGGM. According to their IR person, Ms. Vicki Curran we will shortly see press releases enlightening us more about the company. I hope that it will also shed some light as to the relationship between the two companies.
We hear that we will be fully reporting by Christmas of 2004 and that momentum for 2005 is even better for this company with incredible potential. Many very intelligent shareholders that I have the pleasure of speaking with have speculated on some of these deals and it will be exciting to see how, when or if some of these scenarios will play out. For now we hold on to millions of acres of claims, core samples that have the potential to forensically tell a story about our future and the deliberate and methodical manner in which Urban Casavant, D. Roger Glen and John Ed Dhonau and even Rendall Williams orchestrate the finale to this opera which began two years ago.
The issues surrounding the increase in the authorized shares and the distribution multiple for CIM revealing a potential short or potential upcoming increase to almost 1.6 trillion shares is in my opinion a head fake as Urban runs to the end-zone. These multiples can change before the payout date of the dividend and may serve a purpose other than just letting us know how many shares we will receive. Since many have already postulated the share structure I will not bore you with the details but I will say that part of the Casavant Maneuver was to buffer the shock of the shareholders through the distribution of these dividends. When the 10QSB is filed, we will already be anesthetized, however, I also believe that we will be extremely surprised at what we see in the report in regards to structure and valuation.
As many of you know, I do my best not to speculate but prefer to analyze factual data and put together information that I have heard or know to be fact. Many of the issues that I address in this post originate from conversations and inferences made to me by many.
I have heard Urban espouse his love for racing to many shareholders at the races and have heard him tell them that he personally has funded these races and not CMKX. In addition, Urban has personally been funding day-to-day operations until joint venture deals and cash began to funnel into CMKX through the many deals that we are now seeing. There is no auditor that I know of who can argue that a company that has cash on the balance sheet is not a solvent company. We are solvent and a very viable business concern. Now we need to produce earnings. Part of the new business that we have yet to be made aware of which includes core sample results, audit results, a 10QSB and framework denoting the plan for the future. I hope that this framework will reflect mineral claims that may be sold to other competent agencies and more joint ventures with prominent companies in the FALC area including long-term plans for mining operations.
At some point soon, we can expect CMKX to be fully reporting; our CEO to do a state of the union style address to the shareholders and see the beginning of a legacy materialize right before our eyes.
I encourage you all to sit tight and wait out the storm we are in the eye of the Perfect Storm (Sterling) and soon the whirlwind will carry us off to profits and reasons for celebration. The time draws nigh, the market makers and any devious individuals suspected of trying to do us in are facing their demise. House cleaning is complete and new deals are on the way.
This all appears complicated but is in fact marvelous in its simplicity. Do not think too deeply into it and keep things basic and fundamental. As I indicated in my Canadian trip report, it is Business 101.
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Well, I hope you stay safe in Florida. Lord knows you've taken enough of a beating already down there. As for the point/counterpoint thing, I probably won't be able to stop myself from posting when I disagree with you and I hope you'll do the same when you think I'm full of it. That's what keeps this thread fun.
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No harm, no foul, Doji Man. I am a baby over this stock. Hope your right and that money flow graph turns into the price of this thing. Hard to have faith in the techinicals on this one, for me at least. The management is so messed up, they could screw up a cream pie.
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Will wrote: The management is so messed up, they could screw up a cream pie. ------------------------------------------- What "management"??????
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are seeing what I expected we would see in the market place on CMKX if the MM's truly had an extremely large NSS position. Too, there is every indication right now that CMKX has been advised to be completely silent for a period of time. By whom? We can only speculate, but I would say the advice came through Roger Glenn and his communications with the SEC about our securities problem with the NSS position. I do not see the SEC or anyone else putting a gag order on CMKX saying you can't report the SGGM monies that just came into the company nor do I see them officially being told to not mention that they are a part of the Vegas Party. What is suprising that UCAD doesn't mention CMKX in their PR about the party. I can see CMKX being silent, but for another company (UCAD) to not mention CMKX on a joint venture PARTY in Vegas is just plain weird. I willl not speculate on the possibilities that stimulates in my mind at this time.
I have to agree with Zen that CRWN is run by the brother of he that runs JEFF. I believe they are in so deep that they will have to continue to short, even at these levels, through the October 1st dividend. The downward pressure they are generating is easily seen through the above 90% retail buys showing that the sells are coming from the MM's and not you and I. In an even or clear trading market for CMKX we would have a near perfect percentage balance.
This is a major gamble on the part of the MM's, but they are believing that the downward pressure will be too much for investors after the dividends go through. Ater Oct 2, the MM's expect the weak handed investors to begin selling their positions which could easily be near 100 billion or more and unfortunately it looks like they will possibly get them to do just that. It doesn't take long reading the posts around some of the boards to see how vulnerable a lot of investors are at this point.
All in all we are going to see this down pressure for another 1 - 2 weeks or until we announce being fully reporting. With current developments inside CMKX no one can really guess accurately what news is going to come out next. We have our hopes and dreams, but until it officially comes out, that is all they are. When the air clears and CMKX is unveiled we will all be pleased in my opinion.
Keep the faith. The answers to the questions that many have are coming forth very soon.
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Anyone with L2 that shows MMs? Vol started off with a bang but has come to a screeching slow down. Are we in this alone or are there MMs lurking?
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