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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
BTW. Anyone notice when price goes up there is over 300 million traded? And when we drop or stay even the volume is low?

Thats a good sign to me, anyone else?

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Very, very good sign!

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Originally posted by sunny:
Does that mean that the "accumulation" period is almost over...that we will begin the upward trend?

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Maybe not just yet but it does mean that there's not much real selling & MM's are taking advantage of that.

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Originally posted by sunny:
Hotline says info on advertising and programming will be out this week and news on carriers sometime in early August!!!!

Grab your coat, we're aheading NORTH!!

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Thank you for calling the Q Television Network Hotline.

We'll be coming out later this week with more information on programming and advertising. A new carriage report will be available in early August.

"He failed in business in '31.
He was defeated for state legislator in '32.
He tried another business in '33. It failed.
His fiancee died in '35.
He had a nervous breakdown in '36.
In '43 he ran for congress and was defeated.
He tried again in '48 and was defeated again.
He tried running for the Senate in '55. He lost.
The next year he ran for Vice President and lost.
In '59 he ran for the Senate again and was defeated.
In 1860, the man who signed his name A. Lincoln, was elected the 16th President of the United States.

The difference between history's boldest accomplishments, and its most staggering failures is often, simply, the diligent will to persevere."

Now I'll have yet another sleepless night thinking about nice cozy igloos, advertising info, another carrier, roulette wheel in Vegas, and the crystal aqua water of the Carribean! DAM YOU GUYS.

Ruined my whole childhood. LOL

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Originally posted by sunny:
Right there with you on that one. However, think I have officially lost my mind. Today while playing with the kids, I told Elmo and Big Bird about QTV. They seemed very supportive and optimistic. They asked me to buy Cookie Monster when we hit 05.

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
You know - I really wish I listened to myself a few weeks ago when I said, I wouldn't look or have anything to do with QBID until end of August.

Now I'll have yet another sleepless night thinking about nice cozy igloos, advertising info, another carrier, roulette wheel in Vegas, and the crystal aqua water of the Carribean! DAM YOU GUYS.

P.S - I'd die for temps below 40F

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Hey BigT...we broke record lows yesterday...the high was 66 degrees..it was awesome...24 degrees cooler than normal...sinuses are playing havoc with me, but I'll put up with the headache to stay cool like this!!
Sunny..you are going to have to send me a postcard from the Northpole...I had myself psyched up for the plane ride to Vegas (I hate flying because of motion sickness)..there is no way I could fly to the North Pole!! YUCK.....

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By Tom Martin
aka “Steve Tracy”
aka “Firebird_1965”

Today I want to come clean about something I
feel very badly about. I cannot undo some of
the things I have done, but hopefully this
message will prevent other such occurrences in
the future.

I am a paid basher.

Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this
company; I’m moving on to a new job. But before
I go, I want to explain a few things because
this just isn’t right and I won’t feel good
about myself until I expose this sham. It’s
hurt too many people and I don’t want it on my
conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a
lie.

I work for a company called Franklin, Andrews,
Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, CT. Basically,
it’s a Boiler Room much like the one in the
movie of the same name. The idea behind my
group is to bash the price of a company’s stock
down low enough to where the group of investors
who retained our company’s services can buy the
stock really cheap and perhaps even take it
over all together.

There are approximately 70 people at the
company divided into several groups. My group,
consisting of 5 people, is responsible for
BIFS. While I probably shouldn’t give any names
of anyone working here now, what the heck, I’m
leaving here, so what can they do – sue me? Ha!
I can tell you that GUTTWRENCH was part of my
group until he left last week, as was
Richardphx. Others who have been part of this
include early bashers like Epiphonics and
Simontaz. You may be interested to know that
some hypsters, such as Amato7 and BIFWATCHER,
have also been part of the scam (more on that
later).

There are several companies engaged in the
bashing business – ours is not the only one.
However, I can tell you that not every basher
in here is a paid basher. Having done this for
two years, I can usually tell who is a paid
basher and who is merely someone having a
little fun. While unpaid bashers have a
different motive than someone like me, they can
be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve
my ultimate goal and they also spread rumor and
confusion throughout a room, which also helps
me.

What is that goal? Well, I am merely a cog in a
much larger machine, so my bosses never really
explained the big picture to me, but I’d say
essentially, GUTTWRENCH was right. There are
several companies who are quite familiar with
SWOMI and who are deathly afraid of it.

There are three types of bashers here at
Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein:
Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An
Advanced-level basher (also known as a Silver
Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading
information about the company. They would deal
in facts, countering every longs post with
articles, news reports and opinion surveys that
gave a negative impression about the company.

An Intermediate-level basher (also known as a
Serpent) would try to weasel their way into the
confidence of longs and create doubt using
rumor or innuendo.

Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as
a Pitchfork) would attempt to create confusion
in the room by distracting other posters with
satire, name calling and pointless arguments.
The idea was to make sure no serious discussion
of the stock could take place. A Pitchfork was
usually a basher, but not always. Sometimes, we
would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as
Amato7 or BIFSWATCHER to create the illusion of
an argument going on. What was really funny (in Advertisement:
a perverse way, I guess) was that Amato7 and I [Image] [Image] [Image]
sat next to each other, laughing the whole
time.

I was a Pitchfork. I was paid a base wage of
$12 an hour for my services. I was given a $1
bonus for every post over 100 per day as well
as a monthly bonus of $100 for every penny the
stock had dropped from the previous month. I
was also paid a bonus for bashing on weekends.
While this may not sound like much, I made a
decent, though dishonorable, paycheck.

Each of us sat in a small half-cubicle in a
cluster with our teammates. Each group (usually
five people) was made of three beginners (two
who would bash and one who would hype), one
intermediate and one advanced level basher.
Occasionally for some of the hotter stocks, one
of the beginners would be replaced by an
intermediate depending on how much the stock
was rising. BIFS was a low-level stock, meaning
it got the 3-1-1 configuration. Somehow, I get
the feeling that JPACK2 may have worked for a
basher company or knows someone who does
because the “Basher Handbook” he occasionally
posts is eerily similar to the one we actually
use. While not a word-for-word match, I’d say
it is about 90 percent the same. We do have
certain rules that we follow.

First, we have to develop a character and stay
within that character in order to build a
“following.” My character, “Firebird_1965,” was
a sarcastic, obnoxious supporter of free
speech, but only when it came to bashers.

Next, we had to follow certain guidelines on
what we could say. We were urged to have an
“answer” to every long’s question, but we were
to frame that answer in a way that ridiculed
the questioner for asking such a question.
However, we were never to use profanity or
vulgarity because that would cause people to
ignore us. We were to make fun of people, but
in a civil way. The idea was to get “play,”
i.e. – reaction from other posters. The more
play we got, the more the room would be
disrupted. Ignored posters get no play. One
exception would be the hypster – since they
were “defending” the stock against our
onslaught, they got a little more leeway.
People would side with the hypster because they
thought he was real since he appeared to be on
their side, but was really on ours, setting us
up to disrupt the room. Padelcars is quite good
at this and gets paid very well.

I’ve worked on BIFS for about three months now.
In addition to the Firebird_1965 alias, I’ve
used a few others on the BIFS and several other
boards as well. I stuck with Firebird_1965
because it was the one that got the most play
from other posters.

In closing, I feel absolutely terrible about
this. It’s just awful how I’ve been part of a
scam designed to cheat honest, hard-working
people out of their investments all for the
benefit of a few wealthy people who already
have enough money to last a lifetime. These
greedy people MUST be stopped. That’s why I’m
posting this before I leave. I want to make up
for some of the damage I’ve done. I can’t live
with this lie anymore. You can’t imagine how
hard it is to look at myself in the mirror each
morning knowing my job is to cheat and lie.

I have to go now, I’m too broken up to
continue. I hope this confession can make up
for my sordid deeds; I would urge everyone who
reads this to copy and repost it as many times
as you can. Only by shining the light of truth
can we drive these rats back into the darkness
from whence they came. Believe me, they don’t
want publicity.

I hope all of you can forgive me and save me a
seat on that BIFS rocket to the moon. If this
helps, let me leave you with this…

GO BIFS!!!!

With fervent remorse,

Right now I have a dog sitting next to me, stareing and drooling & I have abrain freeze from the watermelon slushy I made. Gotta go.

P.S - I think I might watch Boiler Room again, I like when Ben Afflick says "You will make your 1st Million within 3 years working with this firm"

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Originally posted by Deg's wife:
Goforit..that story has been around for quite some time now...I think I read it last year. Don't know how much truth there is to this person confessing, but it does make you think..

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I believe it. Very few people will come on here just to rile everyone up. Where there is money there are people to do the devil's work.

SO NOW THAT THE STOCK IS AT .006 ON FINALLY CONCRETE GOOD NEWS UNLIKE EVERY OTHER PR THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED. SHOOT, DO THE HISTORY, THIS STOCK HIT A HIGH OF .40+ BACK IN 2000 AT THE FAILED LAUNCH AND WE GOT A CARRIER IN MAJOR MARKETS PUSHING OUR SIGNAL AND WE ARE AT .006.

THIS STOCK SHOULD BE .25-.50 RIGHT NOW SO .0064 UP 12% IS NOT UP. .01 AT 40% UP IS NOT UP. .02 TOMORROW AT 250% ON THE DAY ISN'T UP.

.25 AT THIS POINT IS UP. APPLES TO APPLES, THIS STOCK WITH THAT LAST PR SHOULD BE .75-$1.00/SHARE.

EVERYONE CAN SAY ALL THEY WANT ABOUT U4TSAF2 BUT GUESS WHAT, THE STOCK PRICE REFLECTS EVERYTHING I SAY 100% WHICH MAKES ME RIGHT. HA HA!

JUST AS I AM RIGHT AGAIN, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HISTORY THIS STOCK AND GIVE US A PROBABLE LIKELYHOOD OF WHAT'S TO HAPPEN. SO TAKE YOUR LAST 3 TUESDAYS AND 7 SUNDAYS AND TOSS THEM OUT THE WINDOW.

MARCH 3, 2006

L2 QBID

4X4.00
6X3.99
2X3.98
8X3.97

RESISTANCE IS AT $4.00 AND IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT THE SKY'S THE LIMIT.

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
This one is for U4.

All Mondays in June had closed Positive. All Mondays in July closed negative.

Not looking forward for tomm at all! Although last week we might have broken that Tuesday trend.

But as U4 says, "how it closed on specific days does not matter"..

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Still holding strong and long!!! Go QBID

HOPE TODAY BRINGS GOOD PPS. STOCK SEEMS TO BE ACCUMULATING NICELY AT .0058--.006. CHARTS STILL SHOWING A DIP POSSIBLY TO .0051 AREA. THAT'S OK. WE HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE.

I DON'T WORRY ABOUT MY STASH CHARTS. JUST HOLDING TIGHT. IF IT DOES GO TO THE LOW .005'S--WILL TRY TO PICK UP SOME TRADING SHARES--OR AVERAGE DOWN FROM MY CURRENT .011 PRICE.

POTENTIAL IS PRICELESS AND I AM STILL 100% BEHIND QBID.

SEPTEMBER IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. I CAN WAIT.

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
...EVERYONE CAN SAY ALL THEY WANT ABOUT U4TSAF2 BUT GUESS WHAT, THE STOCK PRICE REFLECTS EVERYTHING I SAY 100% WHICH MAKES ME RIGHT. HA HA!...

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Which aspects are you referring to? cheerleading, bashing, or backpeddling?

You may not realize it or care, but you retain ZERO credibility here... so why bother?

Are we ready to play nicely?

Hoping for a good day. News on the hotline was very encouraging...would love to hear about their programming and advertising...should be interesting stuff.

i am wondering about your position in this stock.
first, some time ago extreme pumper
later, outraged basher
now, pumper again

stop your non sense pps predictions, since its only hurts people ( expecially newbies around ).

what is the name of breed mix between pumper and basher????

--- pumsher????
--- bamper????

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Originally posted by U4TSAF2:
I HAVE WATCHED THIS STOCK GO FROM .0001 TO .027 WHICH IS A 27,000% INCREASE.

SO NOW THAT THE STOCK IS AT .006 ON FINALLY CONCRETE GOOD NEWS UNLIKE EVERY OTHER PR THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED. SHOOT, DO THE HISTORY, THIS STOCK HIT A HIGH OF .40+ BACK IN 2000 AT THE FAILED LAUNCH AND WE GOT A CARRIER IN MAJOR MARKETS PUSHING OUR SIGNAL AND WE ARE AT .006.

THIS STOCK SHOULD BE .25-.50 RIGHT NOW SO .0064 UP 12% IS NOT UP. .01 AT 40% UP IS NOT UP. .02 TOMORROW AT 250% ON THE DAY ISN'T UP.

.25 AT THIS POINT IS UP. APPLES TO APPLES, THIS STOCK WITH THAT LAST PR SHOULD BE .75-$1.00/SHARE.

EVERYONE CAN SAY ALL THEY WANT ABOUT U4TSAF2 BUT GUESS WHAT, THE STOCK PRICE REFLECTS EVERYTHING I SAY 100% WHICH MAKES ME RIGHT. HA HA!

JUST AS I AM RIGHT AGAIN, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HISTORY THIS STOCK AND GIVE US A PROBABLE LIKELYHOOD OF WHAT'S TO HAPPEN. SO TAKE YOUR LAST 3 TUESDAYS AND 7 SUNDAYS AND TOSS THEM OUT THE WINDOW.

MARCH 3, 2006

L2 QBID

4X4.00
6X3.99
2X3.98
8X3.97

RESISTANCE IS AT $4.00 AND IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT THE SKY'S THE LIMIT.

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Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
...what is the name of breed mix between pumper and basher????

--- pumsher????
--- bamper????

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Sunny, lay off the sugar. LOL. I just had 1 small cup of coffee with 5 spoons of sugar. Email up yet?

Anyway - Hang in dont get scared everyone.

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Originally posted by sunny:
Anonymous Lurker--

I can't figure his position out either...either way good to see you!

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