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Originally posted by penny-trader:
exactly

open your eyes people what is being said on the hot line has not been backed up in PR form. Why? because it is not going to happen.

I dont know if you caught it so im goign to point it out. ( and i am not Bashing here so read this very carefully) Diana even stated in her post yesterday to have your finger ready on the sell button.

This is a good indicator to me there is a problem. There has not been anyone here that has been more possitive on thsi stock then Diana. If she is gettign nervous then you all should be very nervous. This is the first time that i have doubted that I may be wrong about her being a paid pumper.

This is JULY 1 PEOPLE do you know where your proffits are?

this is a stock. what other stock would you hold on to and ride it down 300% still holding it unless you where shorting it.

some of you have watched big big proffits go down the drain.

I'm not going to tell anyone to sell. im not goign to tell anyone to buy. I never have and never will

I hope for all your sakes im am Drastically wrong and this goes to the moon for you. But i cant see it.

GLTA still holding.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
exactly

open your eyes people what is being said on the hot line has not been backed up in PR form. Why? because it is not going to happen.

I dont know if you caught it so im goign to point it out. ( and i am not Bashing here so read this very carefully) Diana even stated in her post yesterday to have your finger ready on the sell button.

This is a good indicator to me there is a problem. There has not been anyone here that has been more possitive on thsi stock then Diana. If she is gettign nervous then you all should be very nervous. This is the first time that i have doubted that I may be wrong about her being a paid pumper.

This is JULY 1 PEOPLE do you know where your proffits are?

this is a stock. what other stock would you hold on to and ride it down 300% still holding it unless you where shorting it.

some of you have watched big big proffits go down the drain.

I'm not going to tell anyone to sell. im not goign to tell anyone to buy. I never have and never will

I hope for all your sakes im am Drastically wrong and this goes to the moon for you. But i cant see it.

GLTA still holding.

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It's very intersting that you spend most or all of every day posting about a stock that you have a total position of around 4 cents.

Thank you for your wisdom
Thank you for your negatism
and most of all...
Thank you for taking all of us longs by the hand and leading us to the light.

WE CAN HANDLE IT!!

Go pick another stock that you have 1 share of, and spend your day spreading your vast boatload of ... knowledge, with them.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
We had a pr that said we had paid NTI 50 thousand dollars for the first and last months use of the satellite feed they set up for the Q. Transmission started on the 15th Day of May. On the 15th Day of July the two months of payment will end. Therefore unless an additional 25K dollars per month is paid the signal will stop.

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Where does it say that they didn't pay for more time? Do they need to tell us when they pay the electric bill too?

Also, he said hard launch... this is not another soft launch, so why all the confusion? Here's what the message states:

The hard launch will be tomorrow, and that means that we will be running 8 hours of programming, 3 times.It will be for any carrier that wants to take it, and that has been liscenced, but, we will not be announcing carriers until all contracts have been put together and have been signed, unless we have permission from a specific carrier."

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
The guy says he has big contracts, what more do you want. He said he is lanching today, what more do you want?

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A PR stating so!

Glad to see ya all having a great time.

Qbid is going to the moon...

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Originally posted by Golf57:
Let's not be stupid and overlook the fact that QBID could of had free exposure to millions G/L at the New York parade and decided not to show up. That tells me that there's something not KOSHER here and everybody wants to overlook that fact.

This stock is going down in my mind, it has to be a scam {not being at the parade did it for me}. Beleive me folks I hope you all don't lose your money but, you have to admit it does'nt look good.

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Originally posted by JoeSchmoe:
The premise of my question was not to insinuate that Frank is trying to mislead investors, the hotline message alone can get him charged with fraud if he is lying.

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BOB. You big idiot he's not a paid basher neither I'm I, his speaking from the heart telling just like it is. If you want to ignore what hi's saying then do so. I am a share holder of this stock and have been for a long time and I agree with what he's saying 100%.

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
ANOTHER REAL INTELLIGENT POST. PENGUINS!! YOU'VE GOT PENGUINS ON THE BRAIN. MY GOD YOU MUST HAVE A SCREW LOOSE.

BOB

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Originally posted by Golf57:
BOB. You big idiot he's not a paid basher neither I'm I, his speaking from the heart telling just like it is. If you want to ignore what hi's saying then do so. I am a share holder of this stock and have been for a long time and I agree with what he's saying 100%.

My turning point was the parade in N.Y.C. think about it who, in their right mind would'nd show up at such a huge gathering to expose their plan for the coming QBID station. I would like your explanation on that but, don't lie to your self while answering it. I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that you don't lose your money.

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do you know where this company is registred?

i will answer you Nevada

do you know why it is registereed?

I will annswer you again.

Companys registered in Nevada do not hold the CEO responcible for failure and the investors can not go after them. Basic stock dd 101

look it up. he will get away with it if that is his intentions.

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Originally posted by JoeSchmoe:
The premise of my question was not to insinuate that Frank is trying to mislead investors, the hotline message alone can get him charged with fraud if he is lying.

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Originally posted by fastrunner:
This really raises a major concern. They made a effort to be in the convention for the NCTA. They do not show up in the NY gay parade? And they are going to have an office in NY? Hmmm...

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WHAT DO YOU TELL PEOPLE. WATCH QBID???? WHERE??? WHAT CARRIER??? WE DONT KNOW YET. THAT WOULD LOOK REAL BAD.

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Originally posted by fastrunner:
This really raises a major concern. They made a effort to be in the convention for the NCTA. They do not show up in the NY gay parade? And they are going to have an office in NY? Hmmm...

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THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PARADE. THIS IS A STATION FOR GAYS,LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS. IT IS GOING TO BE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION. DON'T WORRY THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THE LAUNCH.

BOB

anythign that has been said on the phone and backed up with a PR has happened

when it is not stated in a pr the promises have failed.

history does repeat itself.

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
The guy says he has big contracts, what more do you want. He said he is lanching today, what more do you want?

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
Where does it say that they didn't pay for more time? Do they need to tell us when they pay the electric bill too?

Also, he said hard launch... this is not another soft launch, so why all the confusion? Here's what the message states:

The hard launch will be tomorrow, and that means that we will be running 8 hours of programming, 3 times.It will be for any carrier that wants to take it, and that has been liscenced, but, we will not be announcing carriers until all contracts have been put together and have been signed, unless we have permission from a specific carrier."

Go Q!

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Originally posted by jonv:
I fully agree with you Pharm. Not having a strong presence at the parade was just dumb. They could of had another million people calling cable providers asking for the Q. I must admit, I do have a strong concern about their absence.

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Frank,

Greetings from one of the shareholders who is part of the Allstocks message board. I recently took a survey of QBID shareholders and the total # of shares held at Allstocks. I am excited to say that we are over 240 million strong and rising! It's apparent by the sound of your voice on the 6/30 hotline update that your hard work and exhausting hours are catching up to you. We all wish you well. Now onto the reason for this email. If the hard launch is indeed going to be July 1, it is imperative that you issue a press release announcing this to the world. Especially given the inability to launch a few years ago. This will help with the validation that QTV so desparately needs. I look forward to several months down the road when QTV has proven to be a viable alternative to alternative lifestyles.

Be well,

Jon Vredevoogd
CEO
Onclaut
Cell 239)699-1

[This message has been edited by jonv (edited July 01, 2004).]

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Originally posted by sarki316:
The reason QBID was not at the Gay pride parade was that they were busy on working on deals to finalize QBID launch.......

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Are you saying the same people that would had out fliers are the same people sitting around the table with comcast? If thats the case we're all in big trouble.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Where has he stated that they did

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or Watch for q qomign to a station near you.

anything is better then nothing.

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Originally posted by sarki316:
The reason QBID was not at the Gay pride parade was that they were busy on working on deals to finalize QBID launch. Plus WHY WOULD YOU PROMOTE QBID IF NOBODY CAN WATCH THEM!!!!!!

WHAT DO YOU TELL PEOPLE. WATCH QBID???? WHERE??? WHAT CARRIER??? WE DONT KNOW YET. THAT WOULD LOOK REAL BAD.

FRANK IS DOING THE RIGHT THING HE IS SETTING EVERTHING UP TO MAKE A HUGE SPLASH. WE HAVE TO GET RELAX AND JUST WAIT. THIS STOCK WILL GO UP. JUST GIVE IT TIME.

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PARADE. THIS IS A STATION FOR GAYS,LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS. IT IS GOING TO BE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION. DON'T WORRY THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THE LAUNCH.

BOB

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Originally posted by Bob_dog:
Are you saying the same people that would had out fliers are the same people sitting around the table with comcast? If thats the case we're all in big trouble....

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LOL.. i agree, but there are actually firms that you hire to do that for you. That way, you have presence and there is no question and answer session that you have to tap dance through. The flyers could have just stated:

"ARE YOU Q???

Q Television - coming soon!

The nation's first 24/7 GLBT network

Call your cable or satellite provider and demand your Q !!"

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
i dont thkn so.

do you know where this company is registred?

i will answer you Nevada

do you know why it is registereed?

I will annswer you again.

Companys registered in Nevada do not hold the CEO responcible for failure and the investors can not go after them. Basic stock dd 101

look it up. he will get away with it if that is his intentions.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
you can launch all you want if no on knows its availabel they are not goin to subscribe. if they dont subscribe ther channel is braodacsting to no one with no income, and not no advertisers as advertisers only pay if some one is watching. How long can we afford to run with no income?

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We can apparently run for five years. Since they supposedly have to have 5 years funding in order for a major carrier to pick them up.--Just being a smart A$$.

bid
1 x .009
1 x .0089
2 x .0088

ask
2 x .0093
3 x .0094
2 x .0095

they specifically stated that they spent $50000 dollars on first and last months rent. I would like to know that they have signed a lease but i didn't hear about that.

I never said i was in charge of this company, I just know that the ones in charge have not lived up to promises in the last couple of weeks, and have made statements that are misleading and intentionally so.

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
The point that I made was that he doesn't need to tell YOU that he paid the bills! That was the point of the electrical bill comment. I didn't realize that the CEO of the company had to keep penny-trader informed of every movement! I understand that you believe that you're in charge, but the rest of us, and the company, don't think so.

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
I still wish they'd have been there and at Gay Days in Orlando earlier in June... outside of this being a scam, the only other reason that I can come up with is this: They might have been afraid to make an appearance and NOT be able to give specific details regarding carriers and availability in different areas. I still think that's a lame excuse if that's why, but I can't think of another reason. Can anyone else? It'll be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.

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PHARM,

I AM TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE--THE CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS PUT THE COMPANY QTN -- OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.

TIME RESTRAINTS AND STAFF AND MONEY COULD BE A REASON FOR NOT DOING MORE ADVERTISING THRU A PARADE OR AT GAY/LESBIAN EVENTS.

SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON TRAVELING AND CONTACTING CARRIERS SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE A PRIORITY AT THIS POINT. JMHO

I BELIEVE IN QBID. THE THEORY AND THE WORK IS BEING COMPLETED. WE DID THE DD. WE KNOW THE GOOD AND THE BAD. I IS NOT AN EASY JOB. ADDING STAFF WILL BE A BLESSING. I HOPE THEY ALL PULL TOGETHER AND GET THE JOB DONE. I AM HOLDING. UNUSUAL FOR ME TO RIDE A STOCK DOWN. I WON'T HOLD FOREVER OF COURSE--BUT I WILL HOLD ON THE POTENTIAL.

I AM WORKING ON PROFITS. SOME HERE CAN NOT SAY THAT. I WANT EVERYONE TO WIN. I WANT THE Q TELEVISION NETWORK TO LAUNCH. I BELIEVE WE ALL DO. I AM GLAD AND APPRECIATE ALL OBJECTIVE VIEWS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE RECENT DOWNTREND WILL UPTURN. QBID HAS STRONG SUPPORTERS AND HOLDERS. THERE WERE VERY LARGE BUY YESTERDAY IN THE 60,000 AREA AND UP. NOT AVERAGE DAY TRADE BUYS. IMHO MM'S LOADING UP. JMHO.

FRANK AT TIMES HAS CERTAINLY NOT DONE THINGS THE WAY I WOULD HAVE DONE THEM. THAT DOES NOT LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS IN ANY WAY A SCAM. I THINK AFTER 4 MONTHS AND THOUSANDS OF % IN INCREASE--EVERY STOCK RETRACES. EVERY STOCK ESTABLISHES A PATTERN.

TREND STILL IN BUY POSITION. IT IS HARD AND WE ALL ARE SCARED. ME INCLUDED. THIS IS A PENNY STOCK AND A GAMBLE.

I WOULD POST DD--BUT THERE REALLY IS NONE TO POST. WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.

I HAVE MADE CONFIRMING CALLS TO DEVENEY--Q-TELEVISON NETWORK--YADA YADA YADA

NOTHING IS PERFECT--BUT WE ARE GAMBLERS.
PROTENTIAL IS PRICELESS
RISK OR TRIVIAL PURSUIT?

NOT TRYING TO WASTE VALUABLE SPACE ON THE BOARD OR BORE PEOPLE--BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN! WHAT MORE CAN WE DO? EITHER WE BELIEVE ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE OR WE BAIL. I CHOOSE ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO STAY.

THESE ARE STILL THE FACTS--

QBID (STOCK SYMBOL)
Q TELEIVISON NETWORK.
NO. 1: CEO PROMISES NO REVERSE SPLIT WHILE HE'S CEO.

NO. 2: STOCK BUYBACK BY QBID.

NO. 3: STAFF ADDITION MISS LAMONT WITH 25+ YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT HAS ESTABLISHED HER OWN TV STATION, BEGAN A SMALL FIBER-OPTIC COMPANY THAT IS NOW THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD FOR COMMUNICATIONS, HAS WORKED FOR THE BIG 3 MAJOR NETWORKS IN AREA'S SIMILAR TO WHAT QBID IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH; HENCE "NEW" PROGRAMMING". SHE HAS WORKED IN EUROPE WHICH EAST AND WEST EUROPE WE'RE TRYING TO MARKET.

NO. 4: 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME-WARNER THAT PUTS THE SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN N. AMERICA THERE IS A DEMAND.

NO. 5: ALL SATELLITE SIGNAL HAVE BEEN COORDINATED TO PUT THIS SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

NO. 6: WE ARE NOW OFFERING COMPANY/CORPORATE INCENTIVES FOR 1ST YEAR ADVERTISERS AND CAMPAIGN FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTORS.

NO. 7: THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS STATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS, JUST WATCH YOUR NEWS, READ YOUR PAPER AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND GAY/LESBIAN MARRIAGE, GAY THIS, LESBIAN THAT, YOU MUST BE LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET.

NO. 8: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED CUTTING BACK BUDGET AND EXPENSES TO THE TUNE OF 33,000 PER MONTH.

NO. 9: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED INTERNAL CONFLICTS WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A DRAWBACK. TEAMWORK HAS ALWAYS GOT TO BE IN PLACE IN ANY BUSINESS.

N0. 10: THE ABSOLUTELY MOST POSITIVELY OF THEM ALL. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION BEFORE SOME 3 YEARS AGO AND DIDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND. YES--GREAT NEWS AND WHY IS THAT SO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GREAT YOU ASK???? THE STOCK HIT ALMOST $1/SHARE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THIS STOCK TRADED AT .0001.

NO: 11: POLITICAL ISSUES HAVE TO ADDRESSED BRINGING A WHOLE NEW FORUM TO THE QBID TABLE...

NO: 12: SMART CEO'S DO HAVE VISION AND LEARN FROM PREVIOUS MISTAKES.

NO: 13: LARGE O/S. THAT HAS NOT STOPPED OTHER COMPANIES FROM SUCCESS. MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271. DEFINITELY NOT IDEAL--BUT YA KNOW FOLKS WE JUST CAN'T HAVE IT ALL! 7.5 BILLION

NO: 14: THE COMPANY NOW HAS THE QBID HOTLINE OPEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RE: QBID. THE MESSAGE IS UPDATED DAILY WITH NEW AND UPCOMING INFORMATION. 1-888-594-7766

NO: 15: THE COMPANY HAD SECURED AN EXHIBITION BOOTH AT THE NATIONAL NETWORK CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS THE WEEK OF MAY 2ND, 2004. IDEAL LOCATION NEXT TO HBO--COURT T.V. AND THE WWF WRESTLING FEDERATION CHANNELS AT THE ENTRANCE/EXIT. DOES NOT GET MUCH BETTER THAN BEING NEXT TO HBO.

NO: 16: SINCE FEB. 2ND, 2004 THE STOCK HAS MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271.

NO: 17: QBID NOW IS ATTRACTING ATTENTION OF INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS.

NO: 18: News from Business 2.0 Magazine - May 2004 issue, pg. 32
Also available on their website: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/article...85,00.html
" TELEVISION
Gay-per-View
Why do media moguls think pink is so fab? It's simple: Gay and lesbian Americans command an estimated $475 billion in spending power, and advertisers want to reach them. In mid-May, Triangle Television Network plans to launch the first cable and satellite channel for gays and lesbians. Programming will initially be limited to a few sitcom reruns, documentaries, and movies (The Wizard of Oz, anyone?), but watch the competition; Bravo and Showtime have beefed up ratings with gay-friendly fare, and Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone has ordered MTV to accelerate plans for the launch of its own gay channel. "

NO. 19: HIRED DEVENEY PR FIRM jdeveney@deveney.com

#20: COMPLETED TEST LAUNCH ON MAY 15, 2004 WITH SUCCESS.

#21: COMPLETED SOFT LAUNCH ON JUNE 1, 2004

#22: SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE 24/7 HARD LAUNCH JULY 2004.