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Originally posted by OilMan:
Funny how this board thrives on all negative issues and no one has addressed the adds on cable in seattle on comcast. Other areas have been mentioned as well but no one follows up on these. I did and the ones in seattle are for real. Pick up the phone and call around when you see post on ads.

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Originally posted by OilMan:
Funny how this board thrives on all negative issues and no one has addressed the adds on cable in seattle on comcast. Other areas have been mentioned as well but no one follows up on these. I did and the ones in seattle are for real. Pick up the phone and call around when you see post on ads.

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posted June 15, 2004 18:34
I also understand your points. They are valid. In fact that is how I looked at it until I took a few steps back and realized how wrong I was (just my opinion, not trying to imply that I am right or you are wrong, just stating that I feel for myself I am on the right track)
I see how you can think, as I did, that they are under legal contract. In fact one of the past two times (this is the third attempt) they tried to launch they blew a deal they allegedly had with a carrier. I say allegedy because if I remember it correctly, that company denied that it ever had a deal. they were in talks.

In reference to your reference to the OS count (lol) They are not under the control of a pr firm. The PR firm in under control of them. I have only seen two pr's with devany's name on it? maybe I missed one, however these pr's are coming from the q.

This company might want to become fully reporting but I see no proof to them even suggesting that. please correct me if I am wrong, I would like to know. If they do want to move off of the pinks, one would think they would begin by lettng their investors in on things, such as the os count.

Keep in mind that the announced buy back really means nothing for a pink until after it is completed. There is no regulation for thigns like that. They can say anything they want (as far as I know) regarding a buyback and they have no reason to follow through with it. they can say it every day and it does not mean a thing until after it has happened.

Frank did announce no R/S.

They have interest from institutional companies<--- nobody I know... nobody even worth mentioning IMO

1. The Q-Television stock has risen over 12,000% since Feb. 2004.<-- so have many other companies. that does not mean much anymore... it only meant something when you were at the bottom... now I am afraid there is all that way back down.. where before at 0.0001 the only way to lose money was through a r/s or if they folded.

2. The Network has annouced a limited stock buy back.<- again they can announce this but it means nothing until after it is completed. I do recall reading or hearing somewhere that it will not start until oct. 4 months or more away. when is their launch? a couple of weeks?

3. The Q-Television board has voted on NO REVERSE SPLIT.

4. The company has teamed with Barbara LaMonte, a notible figure in the Broadcasting field. She speaks over six languages.<--- Between my and my sister we speak 9 languages. your point? Last I checked you had to pay for her services? Also checked out that companies website... I am sad to say my screen almost cracked it was so ugly, and poorly designed.

5. The Q-Television Network annouced that NTI, a satellite UPLINK/DOWNLINK signal distribution company will handle the technical aspects of transmitting the Q-Television signal upto the Telestar satellite, in which it will be downlinked to all available satellite and cable provieds in NORTH AMERICA, including CANADA, MEXICO and part of the Carribiean (sp?).<-- again I think you have to pay for those services. and until I see this thing airing how do I know they are not there to make sure the pulg doesn't fall out?

6. The Q-Television network will charge a preium to access its broadcast, limiting the viewability to those who want it. Therefore it will not be 'shoved' into heterosexual peoples homes. The cable company will also collect part of the subsciption rate. Each cable company will recivie funds for every customer who watches. Viacomm's LOGO Network will be carried on basic packages. This is already causing controversy.<-- I am over that, it seems to me that viacom has take a lot of heat over their network chanel logo, and still they are able to offer true advertisers. We are going to attempt to charge people, and a few days before we launch, we have no clue what any of our shows will be, not clue what kind of moves( aside form the three on their website), and nothing in place that should be in place well before you launch a network, From all that I have read at least. I am starting to think they want to launch this and then try to get advertisers and carriers. IMO they are way to behind on bringing this thing *online*.

7. The Q-Television Network has hired a leading Public Relations firm to handle news releases and press issues. This company has had Direct TV as a client and has access to noteable, prominent individuals and companies.<-- they ahve hired a pr firm that they have used (from what I saw) twice. no big deal there. I cant see any progress made for the q by this firm.

8. Q-Television has an updated website.<-- nothing to write home about. take a look at logo's its up and its 100% better than q's. P.S., who did they get to build it? its a badly designed site, by amatuers in my opinion.

9. On May first thru the fourth, the network attended the an industry held convention where the Q-Television network exposed itself to many cable and industry leaders.<-- yes they did, I was excited about this. However I have seen no progress because of this. have you? its just not there.

10. The Q-Television Network launched a Test Signal on May 15th, which was broadcast, in clear, unscambled signals, to C-Band Satellite dish owners as well as to all cable/satellite providers. In addition, the signal was carried over two broadcast providers. <-- that signal was anything buy clear from what I remember. Also they had to pay for this signal to go out. on top of that they never supplied investors with information on # of actual viewers, which once again I am afraid I heard them mention they would.

A. The first provider was Comcast Cable in the Washington State/Seattle area.
B. The second provider was Cox Cable in New Orleans, which is home to a rathe rlarge Gay market.<--- right they payed for this, much like ron popeil(sp?) pays to advertise his pasta maker.

The five hour broadcast included a selection of content including an orginal documentary highlighting the Nationwide Gay Marriage events.<-- yes it did. turn on the news, until last week gay marriages where all over the place. I also remember reading somewhere that the movie was also airing on another companies channel... but I might be wrong.

The Test Signal was a complete success.<-- the test signal was a test signal, how can you say it was a success when you have nothing to tell you it was? no feedback from viewers, no anything.

Durring this time, news clips and spots have began to appear in numerous news sources. <---- I have seen a few posts, mostly blots of info, that nobody will see but the investor looking for it. not impressed yet.

11. On June 1st, The Q-Television began its Industry Soft Launch which will allow Cable providers, as well as Satellite providers, access to a block of programming, on going throughout the whole month of June.<--- yest they did, I still have no idea how that is going. do you? I mean do your really?

12. Frank Olsen has annouced he has closed five meetings in New York, with ten others in open discussion. <--- they have not been turned down, closing a meeting does not mean to me that we have contrcacts... until I see that we have them I would not assume so.

Additionally, the company has open an office in New York City which will include secretaries to handle the operations for the East Coast area. They havee also hired a person who will help them with an advertising campaign. <-- ny office. I will check it out when they find the time to open it. its not open yet. Also, I thought devany is heling them with their advertising and carriers? I see no proof of anything yet. you cant if your eyes are open.

13. The Q-Television Network plans to launch an advertising Campaign at the end of June, which will be a nationwide, multi-city event.<-- still to be seen, why are they waiting until days before they launch? A company as large as viacom is doing it a year ahead of time, and they dont have to. the q, I would think does.

14. The Q-Television Network has access to film crews at any time, in major US cities. These film crews will give the network footage for their news segements, comentaries, documentaries as well as for concerts, events, parties, and festiviles and parades.<--- give me a day and a couple of grand, I will have access as well. it was news when it came out, but not any longer.

15. The company plans to launch the network to the consumer in July, which is about two weeks away.<---july is two weeks away or so, why do we have no information, no advertisers (aside from gotchocolates and mikkee), why do we have no information about anything that at least I require to consider this a sound investment? when it comes down to it, we really have no information, that provides any idea of how well, poorly they are doing.

Please don't consider my post a bach, even though it may sound like one. These are my concerns and my thoughts towards JBCak47's post.
JBCak47 in no way am I trying to make you change your mind, I am just putting out what I see as relavant information regarding your reply to my post. your reply in itself is very much apreciated. Best of luck to you.

Looks like another bad day for some...

One... might think that there is more to life than having to be heard or having to be right.

Why don't we just get over it, be mature adults and be constructive here.

We all want the same thing and that is... QBID to be a success; sooooooooo lets focus on the positive aspects of this company. We need to support it as if it were our own.

People like to know both sides of a company when they invest. you need to know how much bad stuff or negative stuff there is in a company to be able to acurately wiegh the risk.

When i first started watching this thread it sounded like there was nothing wrong or negative about this company and that it is a 100% guarantee that it will launch.

this is a penny stock and the truth of the matter is that the odds are stacked against it. People are trying to get a true picture of the company that they are going to throw money into. you can not expect to surpress teh negatives. doign that will not make them go away and make the company succeed. they very things that are being posted could be the thing that makes this company not go. if you tell people to go away and not bring that info in here, the company will still fold for that reason, just there will be a bunch of peple that had the rose colored classes on and didn't see it coming.

having all the negative and the positive posted together you cna see the whole picture and make a true calculation of the risk verses potential assesment and go in with a true understanding of what can happen.

I see so many people in here that refuse to look at the reality that this thing could fail.

so that is why there is so much talk abou tthe negative stuff. anyone that invests money with out concidering this will soon learn the leason the hard way

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Originally posted by OilMan:
Funny how this board thrives on all negative issues and no one has addressed the adds on cable in seattle on comcast. Other areas have been mentioned as well but no one follows up on these. I did and the ones in seattle are for real. Pick up the phone and call around when you see post on ads.

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
BOB--THANKS--I APOLOGIZE TO YOU AND ALLSTOCKS ALSO.
http://www.qtelevision.com/advertising.html

IN 10 DAYS WE HAVE 4 ADVERTISERS. COULD SOMEONE CONTACT THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND WHY THEY ARE ADVERTISING WITH QBID? PLEASE FIND AND REPOST LETTER ABOUT THE LAST ADVERTISER. I KNOW THAT SOMEONE LOOKED THEM UP AND E-MAIL THEM. GREAT MOVE. BRING IT FORWARD AND LETS SEE WHY THESE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN ADVERTISING AND PAYING MONEY TO THE Q TO PUT OUT THEIR PRODUCT.

THESE ARE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

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The Chocolates folks - After hearing the number of cases the owner shipped off to the convention of the Q-coins I had to ask myself why only so little. It was not even going to cover 25% of the expected audience if I remember correctly right now. The business does exist and the owner was nice enough to speak to someone on this board.

The Sauce company - I do not think anyone was able to get an official reply from them. I could be wrong though...some of the posts recently have made my eyes look like some of the emoticons in yahoo messenger.

The Cafeshops store - This is the same store that was "illegal" and was going to be shut down by the company for using its logo/trademark etc without permission. Now they are an official store?!? With all the proceeds going to QTV? I don't like it.

The Amazon Herb company - The guy has been waiting a few weeks for his banner to be put up. A few weeks?!? And once it was up the link was incorrect?! If Deveney really has taken over the website then I must say I would have rather had those devil design people still running it. At least they were working on it all the time and the webmaster would post on IHUB and b1tch back at people complaining about the site. Anyway - the person that is running that site for Amazon Herb --> he is not corporate. He is a reseller of the product. Independent. He came across QTV in his search for stocks if I recall correctly and he thought it would be great investment for a banner ad due to the traffic on the site etc.

All in all .. I personally think the "advertisers" that are listed there are really not doing anything much for the company. Yeah they have paid to be on there (maybe - we do not know the specifics) but I doubt any of them have bought airtime. I want to see the folks listed who have bought airtime. There has to be a few of them that are already advertising in the G&L area. They should not mind having their name splashed up there.

I was hoping for a bit more but maybe I was expecting too much. Like everyone says this has been over 20,000 % from its 0001 level. Granted not everyone here bough in at that level but some of us did...and we still complain. Some just do it because they have to always complain about something others do it because they don’t have anything else to do. There will come a time though and it might be in the very near future where excuses and "just buy more and you will be fine" mode will no longer work. No not like today but more so when the bottom falls out. It really is a shame that the so called day traders are putting that much pressure on the company. Frank himself has made mention of swing/day traders in the past. He also stated that he was buying on the dips. Of course that came from a phone call with him by another message board post. At this point even the staunchest of investors on a few of the boards are crying fowl. The same folks who kept saying buy more buy more. But you never know right? This thing could shoot up to a buck tomorrow and everyone would come in with their Monday morning quarterback technique. Yet when the pps goes down there are only a few posters who keep posting in the good and bad.

For those who feel that you need to own shares to be able to post on a particular thread – go fly a kite. There are many posters who have great TA abilities who do not always have active positions in some of the securities they talk about. I particularly enjoy that. I would like to think they are providing an un-biased look based strictly on the charts etc. There are some companies that people are interested in because of the industry they are in – I have stepped in from time to time because of my own background and knowledge. But if I do not have shares in the company should I not be allowed to post information about the company or where I see them going. I would of course try and put some numbers behind my posts but sometimes that is not always the case. Sometimes all I can give is just my own view based on what I have seen in my time investing and my time in that particular industry. Keep in mind there was a time when a lot of people were not in QBID. Were any of you posting information on the company without holding shares in it? I was. I’ll admit it. I’m glad in the ‘past’ that was allowed and accepted. These days it seems if you do not have anything to add that is nice to the company you get trampled upon. Day traders be damned indeed.

...good luck as always to my friends...

...and for you other folks... good luck as well

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
I think the reason for this is that there is little good new coming out of this company and wher ethere is it is pumped to hell.

People like to know both sides of a company when they invest. you need to know how much bad stuff or negative stuff there is in a company to be able to acurately wiegh the risk.

When i first started watching this thread it sounded like there was nothing wrong or negative about this company and that it is a 100% guarantee that it will launch.

this is a penny stock and the truth of the matter is that the odds are stacked against it. People are trying to get a true picture of the company that they are going to throw money into. you can not expect to surpress teh negatives. doign that will not make them go away and make the company succeed. they very things that are being posted could be the thing that makes this company not go. if you tell people to go away and not bring that info in here, the company will still fold for that reason, just there will be a bunch of peple that had the rose colored classes on and didn't see it coming.

having all the negative and the positive posted together you cna see the whole picture and make a true calculation of the risk verses potential assesment and go in with a true understanding of what can happen.

I see so many people in here that refuse to look at the reality that this thing could fail.

so that is why there is so much talk abou tthe negative stuff. anyone that invests money with out concidering this will soon learn the leason the hard way

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The cable, satellite, and tv industry looks to see if there is money to be made. Do you think those people care about moral issues, what is best for the community at large. You know the answer to that question. What they look at is whether or not there is money to be made with a station aimed at the gay, lesbian, bisexal community. I believe there is money to be made in this area and that is why I invested in this company. I'm betting that it will go through. All other distractions are merely that, just distractions. Believe me the tv industry would love to make this tv station work. I believe it will still make it. Is it a gamble? You bet it is. Jump in and get your feet wet. Keep testing the water before you know it there will be too many people to even let you in.

Bob

We have come SO FAR since Feb. 2004, I see that... Film Crews, 'Qmobiles', Conventions, expanding offices in New York City, finished documentary...

Guys you are either in or out, I under stand you concerns but it seems the same few people are bitching EVERYDAY.... I mean fine, question things but if your questioning the stock almost EVERYDAY then sell and get out.

There are bound to be delays... There are delays when we go to Mcdonalds, there are delays in sex, life is nothing but delays and so far Qbid hasen't been delayed that much... (pertaining to this launch)....

I see the same faces crying everyday... Shut up already and sell. If you are that concerned over this stock, then it isn't for you. There are risks, deal with them... I have and so far I am still up money. If we hit .03 with no launch, imagine when we do launch?!?!?!?

It's just getting annoying, I think we need to open a thread for people who HOLD POSITIONS AND DO NOT BASH. Lets be positive about Qbid, I understand we should adress concerns, but not harp on them. There are bound to be delays and risks, I mean its a start up TV Network...

I am not bashing the people questioning the stock but I am bashing those who sit here everyday and post the same concerns, everyday. Shut up, we know the concerns and risks, the people who bought in care about them, but not enough to get us to sell. The way I see it, I accept the risks, in the end can anything you say on here really change the outcome of this stock? If they are a scam then we are already done for. If not, which I think they AREN'T, then we will be rewarded...

WE ALL KNOW AND ACCEPT THE RISKS, SO SHUT UP ABOUT THEM... JUST MY TWO CENTS...

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Well, just hung up after 15 minutes with some nice representative. Obviously I can't give details of it. 15 minutes in real time is a lot to read. I HAVE IT ON TAPE. Nothing to brag about but she has heard of it. Many requests for it. She said the area is the perfect place for that type of programming. She seemed as interested as I was so she took her time trying to get more info. She did mention that any network that is "under negotiations" would not be visible to their system until its final. She was on the QTN website and sounded very interested (maybe a new investor) She filled out a form for me to request it. She read the news that they were in Seattle for business and they are part of Viacom.

How can I put this audio into a link?

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The Q-Television Network said they plan to advertise to THEIR market (not the straight market) by using 'publications'...

Maybe we all need to suck it up, go to Barnes and Nobel and buy like six different magizines... I don't know which will be more akward , if the cashier is young, old male or female....... lol....

If I bring my g/f along it will look even stranger... lol... choices...

-John

P.S.

Where's the Pharm man and his pigeon that is always stoned? Perhaps the pigeon got TOO stoned...lol...

I gotta give a shout out to my man Pharm!!! How is the Jacuzzi? Break it in yet, wink wink...heheh....

Or is it still a watering hole?!?!?!?lol...

PPS: I beleive the paid basher... however I wouldn't doubt Christian fundamentalism being a possible source of bashing...

i bring facts to the board and share my opinion.

no I'm not a paid basher.

i am doing DD on this stock and sharing it with you.

If you think i am a paid basher then you must think that people like Diana are paid pumpers. Get real here you stick up for the ones that have nothing but good to say about the stock you have fallen in love with your stock and you cant see the truth or you don't want to hear the truth. what ever it is put your head back in the sand and don't look at my posts if you don't like what you are seeing.

I cant make a difference on your PPS so why would you worry about what i have to say.

UNLESSS you are a paid pumper and that is your job, in which case you should be getting a raise real soon as you are doing a fine job.

If I'm wrong then I'm sorry but i will continue to research this stock and share what i have to found. If i was such a bad person i would have been band from the board.

i really didn't think your post required a response but i knew you would not be happy unless i did.

have a great day and
GLTA that are still holding.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Man for you to call me a paid basher you must be a pumper.

i bring facts to the board and share my opinion.

no I'm not a paid basher.

i am doing DD on this stock and sharing it with you.

If you think i am a paid basher then you must think that people like Diana are paid pumpers. Get real here you stick up for the ones that have nothing but good to say about the stock you have fallen in love with your stock and you cant see the truth or you don't want to hear the truth. what ever it is put your head back in the sand and don't look at my posts if you don't like what you are seeing.

I cant make a difference on your PPS so why would you worry about what i have to say.

UNLESSS you are a paid pumper and that is your job, in which case you should be getting a raise real soon as you are doing a fine job.

If I'm wrong then I'm sorry but i will continue to research this stock and share what i have to found. If i was such a bad person i would have been band from the board.

i really didn't think your post required a response but i knew you would not be happy unless i did.

have a great day and
GLTA that are still holding.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Man for you to call me a paid basher you must be a pumper.

i bring facts to the board and share my opinion.

no I'm not a paid basher.

i am doing DD on this stock and sharing it with you.

If you think i am a paid basher then you must think that people like Diana are paid pumpers. Get real here you stick up for the ones that have nothing but good to say about the stock you have fallen in love with your stock and you cant see the truth or you don't want to hear the truth. what ever it is put your head back in the sand and don't look at my posts if you don't like what you are seeing.

I cant make a difference on your PPS so why would you worry about what i have to say.

UNLESSS you are a paid pumper and that is your job, in which case you should be getting a raise real soon as you are doing a fine job.

If I'm wrong then I'm sorry but i will continue to research this stock and share what i have to found. If i was such a bad person i would have been band from the board.

i really didn't think your post required a response but i knew you would not be happy unless i did.

have a great day and
GLTA that are still holding.

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I've said enough to you. Like I said go where someone will appreciate your B.S.

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Originally posted by OilMan:
I do not have all the info yet but there is a paid group of bashers on this board, I am getting the sources and will post as soon as I can confirm this info. Thank You to the person who sent me that email.

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As I said, when networks are in negotiations, nothing is in their systems and the "reps" won't know anything. All she knew was that she heard of them, not only from us requesting it but from Comcast mentioning it.

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Originally posted by kbpkt:
1BigTip- I'm not sure if your still there, but is Q or are they not advertising on Comcast Seattle? If the rep you spoke to was unable to find out, please say that.

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Originally posted by JBCak47:
...Where's the Pharm man and his pigeon that is always stoned? Perhaps the pigeon got TOO stoned...lol...

I gotta give a shout out to my man Pharm!!! How is the Jacuzzi? Break it in yet, wink wink...heheh....

Or is it still a watering hole?!?!?!?lol...

PPS: I beleive the paid basher... however I wouldn't doubt Christian fundamentalism being a possible source of bashing...

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Hey JB! I'm just kinda lurking for now, been posting a little here and there... mostly tired from work... haven't broken the ol' hot tub in yet because I'm still waiting on the friggin' electrician....

I'll check some o' the mags and let you know if I see anything, but so far I haven't.

maybe you are the one not reading

i never replyed to your message. if i had your message would have been quoted.

you dont have to apologise as i see how you could have mistaken it. but i did feel the need to clarify.

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Originally posted by OilMan:
Did I say pennytrader is a basher? Hmmm nope sure did not. Learn to read. And Pengiun only post good things? Uhm nooooo, and yes I do agree with him on the good and bad because he follows up. I am following up on an email that was sent to me 20 minutes ago by someone on this board with a few statements that I am looking into. If I can confirm I will post with links. Nothing more nothing less so step off!

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They people who own 1share up to a million shares as long as they hold they can post negative DD and still not be a basher....

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I've said enough to you.

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true

i will stay thank you

i own this site as much as you.

my share in Alstock is zero like yours so being equal shareholders in this i will go when you go.

now please focus on the stock and not the people posting .

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Winsum!!! Is it true?!!! I've just received some info that suggests you may possibly be teetering toward the bi-curious side. Could it be???

Don't be afraid, this is the obvious place to express your...frilly parts. We won't judge. FarmBoy can show you the ropes.

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LMFAO!... now that's what I call doing DD !!!

I totally see your point, but SOME of the posters are saying pretty much the same thing, everyday...

Don't think for a second Viacom is 100% in the green, they aren't. Just as much 'bad' DD can be dug up on them as well. Any company can have had past problems, hence why this is a pink sheet. We understand the concerns, but as a shareholder I feel Q-Tv has delivered GREATLY since Feb. 2004, when I made my first purchase.

There will be problems guys, this isn't smooth sailing, WE ARE GOING WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE, EXPECT DELAYS.

It will be how Q-Tv deals with them. So far they hired Deveny, LaMonte, NTI to handle 'past' problems. They are taking huge steps. When all these negitive posters post THEIR negitive viewpoints, it completely takes away from the good. I mean, right now we should be discussing their film crews, the mobile units they plan on using.

GUYS WE WERE ON THE AIR IN TWO MARKETS?!?!? WTF? Yet there are some people here who make it seem like all doom and gloom... Yet we were on the air in two different regions.

I can examine America from two different angles and come up with vastly different opinions. Is the QTV glass half full or empty??? I say it's half full on the way to be over flowing soon...

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Originally posted by OilMan:
I have been on this stock since Dave was first looking at it uder Dave's picks.So yes at the start this was 100% bad news and that is why the company was at .0001 and I got great position. All I am asking is for someone in Seattle to post what they are seeing and for others to call people they know in that area and confirm. That is good DD. We have confirmed the shaddy side over and over and over but we need EVERYONE to follow up post about good news. If you call around looking for only info on bad news and will not spend the same amount of effort on good, that makes you a basher. Yes it does. I post both sides. If in fact we can get conformation on commercials, adds, or contracts then the shaddy stuff is still an issue but that would mean they have tricked Comcast and the likes, which I do not think you could do with all the information about the past of QBID. If these ads are legit they have proved themselves to Comcast. Comcast would not allow commercials of a channel that will never come to light. It just would not happen.

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GREAT POST--WE ARE ADULTS--WE TAKE GOOD WITH BAD. I JUST LIKE TO TRY TO BE POSITIVE. I ALSO POST THE BAD. JUST TRY TO GET PAST THAT AND COMBAT WITH GOOD. NOTHING IN LIFE IS A GIVEN. MY GLASS REMAINS HALF FULL. LOL