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PAUL
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I think this is the main form that has to be completed from the OTCBB to start listing your company.
http://otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/forms/form211.pdf

I think the audit will put them in a position to fill out the top of page 2 of this form.

Though, it would make sense that they (CMKX)would already have the information needed. I am still having a hard time reconciling the move to another board and needing to know the short position.

I have looked over the form, it does not seem that hard.

BTW, The audit should already be done.

Anyone know anything about the 23rd of this month being a date that we should be watching with regard to exchange change?

Paul

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Very low volume today. Looking good, strong at 0006.
Go CMKX!

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originally posted by Paul:
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Anyone know anything about the 23rd of this month being a date that we should be watching with regard to exchange change?

Paul,
You posted that question a few days ago and since then I have been looking all over trying to find some information stating that the 23rd is a filing deadline. I turned up nothing. I don't believe it's true. I don't see how it could be. New securities come onto the market virtually every day. That would mean that some are approved immediately while others wait up to a year?


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I just spoke w/ OTCBB.

They tell me there is no such deadline there.
Only that the last THREE years of (10Q's and 10K's) filings have to be on file with the SEC. The man I spoke w/ says that some do a SUPER K in order to catch every thing up.?.?

PAUL

Anyone know anyone named Phillip A. Casavant in regard to the Urban Casavant family?

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originally posted by Paul:
Paul,
You posted that question a few days ago and since then I have been looking all over trying to find some information stating that the 23rd is a filing deadline. I turned up nothing. I don't believe it's true. I don't see how it could be. New securities come onto the market virtually every day. That would mean that some are approved immediately while others wait up to a year?


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I did not question there existence. What I am saying the first objective is DIAMONDS, but we will settle for lesser news. Don't make it sound like I am putting them in the catagory of scam. Read it again after you have coffee.

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Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Will I am not sure if I understood your statement, but here is my reply. I don't think we need to repeat the company existance, they obviously exist otherwise they would not be trading. They are obviously legally registered, but to say if their business is ethical, I cannot tell you that. Everything what they done so far is good and steps they are taking sound promising.
Secondly, the reason that I did not mention diamonds exploration because we know they are in the process of drilling and gathering samples and this process is not a overnight thing - so why keep repeating myself. Hope this clarifies my statement.




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Paul,

Excellent work on clearing that up. I've tried calling a friend who is a broker broker with Bear Sterns, but he has been on vacation both last week and this.

So much ground work has been laid. What we need are the facts as you just provided so we can have better perspective on the events which do occur. Thanks Paul.

Be well, Bo


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Phillip A. Casavant -- Paul where are you getting that name? Any connections to one of the joint venture companies?
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I am not trying to get some rumor going. It is just something I ran across.

Before I repost it here. I want to mkae sure he has something to with CMKX.

The information is interesting but, likely has nothing to do with this.

PAUL

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Originally posted by will:
Phillip A. Casavant -- Paul where are you getting that name? Any connections to one of the joint venture companies?

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Well, where is it coming from, why the reluctance to post it?
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Originally posted by PAUL:
I am not trying to get some rumor going. It is just something I ran across.

Before I repost it here. I want to mkae sure he has something to with CMKX.

The information is interesting but, likely has nothing to do with this.

PAUL



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Still wondering if maybe the deadline has something to do with filings to the SEC.

I am about to look at some filings by cmkx to try to determine End Of Year for them.

PAUL

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Originally posted by Bo14172:
Paul,

Excellent work on clearing that up. I've tried calling a friend who is a broker broker with Bear Sterns, but he has been on vacation both last week and this.

So much ground work has been laid. What we need are the facts as you just provided so we can have better perspective on the events which do occur. Thanks Paul.

Be well, Bo


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quote:
Originally posted by will:
I did not question there existence. What I am saying the first objective is DIAMONDS, but we will settle for lesser news. Don't make it sound like I am putting them in the catagory of scam. Read it again after you have coffee.

Okay

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It might just be some guy out there giving his opinion on a similar topic, but would add a great deal of fuel to the imagination.

The company has had such a long history of not doing things they said they were going to do. They are dealing with that issue very well. The PR's now state what they did. Not what they want to do.

The next battle is here, rumors getting started that disappoint when they do not come to pass.

Again it is nothing earth shaking. But, if I re-post it here, I am sure dozens of people will e-mail this poor guy just like I have to try to see if there is a connection between him and the UC family.

PAUL


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Originally posted by will:
Well, where is it coming from, why the reluctance to post it?

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Paul, are you saying we can email you for the information. Please clarify. Thanks.

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Sure.

Sorry I should probably just post itr. I was not tryiong to make a big deal out of this.

Sorry if I did. Just trying to figure out who this guy is?

PAUL

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Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Paul, are you saying we can email you for the information. Please clarify. Thanks.


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Paul,

I took your last post as to mean that you were wondering if there is a deadline for the SEC filing for a non-reporting company to file it's initial registration with them.

My guess woul be that they could file at anytime without a stated deadline, but I'm not sure.
Here is a link for numbers to their departments: http://sec.gov/contact/phones.htm

I called 202-942-0069 which is the division of market regulation. A message had to be left. Maybe is a few of us call, one of us might get a call back to advise.

If there is no deadline with the OTCBB nor the SEC, then we can all be assured if the 6-23 date comes and goes with no pr or indication of filing, all is still well. CMKX through their attorney, Roger Glenn will make the appropriate filing, if it is their plan to soon become a reporting company. Bo


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I see that the ambiguity and the cloak and dagger approach disseminated by CMKX is contagious.
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Thanks, Paul
You got mail!

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I am just trying to figure out which of the rumors have any foundation in fact.

I remember reading the date June 23rd in regard to making a change in the exchange.

So far I have found NOTHING to support this. My last thought is that maybe the requirement for the last three years of filings with the SEC has some sort of deadline on it.

Perhaps the whole date was just made up to make sur epeople would hold through that date so someone could sell their shares that have held since Jund 22 of 03. Who knows, I know I do not.

However, sec, 10q, 10k is an area I am real GREEN in. Still have a hard time with defingin the OS & As etc. I have to go over it real slow in my head when processing this stuff.

PAUL

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Paul,

I took your last post as to mean that you were wondering if there is a deadline for the SEC filing for a non-reporting company to file it's initial registration with them.

My guess woul be that they could file at anytime without a stated deadline, but I'm not sure.
Here is a link for numbers to their departments: http://sec.gov/contact/phones.htm

I called 202-942-0069 which is the division of market regulation. A message had to be left. Maybe is a few of us call, one of us might get a call back to advise.

If there is no deadline with the OTCBB nor the SEC, then we can all be assured if the 6-23 date comes and goes with no pr or indication of filing, all is still well. CMKX through their attorney, Roger Glenn will make the appropriate filing, if it is their plan to soon become a reporting company. Bo


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It may very well be. Perhaps that is where it is coming from though my intent is to NOT add more fuel to the firestorm of rumors.

CMKX has IMO done a good job of making their PR's trustworthy again. Which is one of the things I though long ago would have to happen.

I really think that we should be careful to try to support our thoughts with some sort of fact.

I am sorry if it looks like I was trying to start more rumors. It was not my intent.

PAUL


If someone wants to post it, please do.
I just don't think it helps a long position to have rumor after rumor fail to materialize.

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Originally posted by will:
I see that the ambiguity and the cloak and dagger approach disseminated by CMKX is contagious.

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Keep it to yourself, obviously you have it figured out, and don't welcome any opinions. I think alluding to information and witholding it is worse than rumor mongering. No need to explain any further.
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It may very well be. Perhaps that is where it is coming from though my intent is to NOT add more fuel to the firestorm of rumors.

CMKX has IMO done a good job of making their PR's trustworthy again. Which is one of the things I though long ago would have to happen.

I really think that we should be careful to try to support our thoughts with some sort of fact.

I am sorry if it looks like I was trying to start more rumors. It was not my intent.

PAUL



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Thanks for understanding.

PAUL

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Keep it to yourself, obviously you have it figured out, and don't welcome any opinions. I think alluding to information and witholding it is worse than rumor mongering. No need to explain any further.

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some a$$hole called "osubucks30" just started a thread about getting out now before you lose your profits... of course, he offers no proof ... apparently Dionne Warwick has a renegade psychic on her hands... LOL
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OTCBB just tld me that the FORM 211 gets filled out and filed by a Market Maker.

The company itself is does not file the form 211.


I am still reading.

PAUL

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Thursday or Friday PR is going to be RELEASED !!! HOLD YOUR SHARES TIGHTLY !!!
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CMKM DIAMONDS INC
Symbol CMKX


CMKM's Smeaton play a market favourite

2004-06-22 13:01 ET - Street Wire

Also Street Wire (C-KPG) Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp
Also Street Wire (C-UCA) United Carina Resources Corp

by Will Purcell

Four junior explorers managed to create quite a market stir with their diamond hunt in central Saskatchewan, but most of the attention has been garnered by Urban Casavant's swinging Pink Sheets promotion, CMKM Diamonds Inc. A CMKM share could be had for just one-100th of a U.S. cent though much of this year, but word of a diamondiferous kimberlite discovery near Smeaton had the company's faithful shareholders dreaming of dollars and a future beyond the mighty pinks, as trading volumes frequently topped the 10-billion mark and CMKM's shares crested above a glorious one-10th of a U.S. cent.

The enthusiasm cooled a bit last week, after more substantial news about the Smeaton find was produced by CMKM's two Canadian-listed partners, Rick Walker's United Carina Resources Corp. and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. Those diamond details initially proved unsettling to quite a number of CMKM's investors, but the company's microscopically priced shares found their second wind and still trade well above their recent range.

CMKM's Smeaton play began in March, when the company signed an agreement that would allow it to earn a one-quarter share in the property from Mr. Walker's two companies, along with U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Interest in the project took off about a week later, when CMKM touted what it called a "new kimberlite discovery" on the Smeaton property.

CMKM proclaimed that its Carolyn pipe was diamondiferous late on June 10, and with the markets closed the following day to mourn Ronald Reagan's passing, there was a rush of speculators trying to hop aboard Mr. Casavant's diamondiferous Smeaton bandwagon indirectly, by investing in CMKM's two Canadian-listed partners.

Those plans hit a big snag when the TSX Venture Exchange halted the shares of United Carina and Pine Channel, citing an imbalance of material information. The exchange also cancelled all of the day's trades, washing away some significant gains, due to the lack of solid news -- at least as "news" is defined by the bureaucrats at the TSX-V.

That imbalance was ultimately corrected when Mr. Walker's diamond juniors subsequently revealed that the Carolyn core samples were just marginally diamondiferous. One 40.1-kilogram sample had produced two tiny microdiamonds that apparently weighed just 0.000005 carat, a fraction even smaller than CMKM's recent share price.

Meanwhile, 11 other Carolyn samples had failed to produce any diamonds. There was no indication of just how much those barren samples weighed, but if they were comparable with the one diamondiferous batch, the Smeaton partners would have recovered just two microdiamonds from over 400 kilograms of Carolyn kimberlite.

Those details presented a far gloomier outlook for the pipe than had CMKM's brief proclamation that the lab results had confirmed Carolyn was diamondiferous, leaving a number of the company's more exuberant faithful to speculate loudly that the Canadian news had been faked. Based on earlier work on the Smeaton play, there should have been few surprises in any of the recent results form Smeaton.

In fact, it would have been quite a shock had CMKM's drill program failed to intersect kimberlite, as its drill holes were apparently positioned in an attempt to retest a kimberlite pipe that had first been hit in 1996, when a group led by Swannell Minerals Corp. scored a kimberlite hit by drilling a geophysical anomaly that was about 200 metres in diameter. As a result, what CMKM now calls its new Carolyn pipe is actually the old Smeaton kimberlite.

Swannell intersected kimberlite at a depth of 128 metres and ultimately cored over 90 metres of kimberlite in its RS-1 drill hole, so it was hardly a great surprise when CMKM's drill hit the top of the pipe at a depth of 125 metres and ultimately intersected about 130 metres of kimberlite. Three subsequent CMKM drill holes produced intersections that ranged from 63 metres to 75 metres thick.

Most of the kimberlites in Saskatchewan have proven to be diamondiferous, so it also seemed likely that there would be at least a mild smattering of microdiamonds in the pipe, whatever its name. Still, there was not much chance that the reincarnated Smeaton kimberlite would deliver a bounty of micros as Carolyn, based on the earlier test. Samples of Swannell's drill core had been sent for analysis, but no diamonds were recovered from a modest amount of kimberlite.

The Swannell group subsequently abandoned the Smeaton project and it was snapped up by United Carina and Pine Channel. Late in 2000, the new partners poked four holes into a series of anomalies that had been identified in close proximity to the old Smeaton pipe. A narrow zone of reworked kimberlite was encountered in one of the holes, but the remainder failed to produce any kimberlite hits and the Smeaton play began to gather dust once again.

In 2002, United Carina and Pine Channel managed to come up with a new partner on the play. Panterra Exploration Corp. decided the play had enough promotability to warrant a look, and it signed an option deal on the project. Panterra's promotion delivered a few opening salvos, but the company did not manage much in the way of exploration, and its option was subsequently abandoned. That left Mr. Walker's companies to hunt down a new partner for the struggling Smeaton project.

The arrival of Mr. Casavant and CMKM has made the old Smeaton play a hot topic with speculators once again, although the market reaction to United Carina and Pine Channel's side of the Smeaton story has been modest in comparison with CMKM's decidedly pink promotion, due to the presence of at least a minimal set of reporting standards on the TSX-V.

Although some speculators may have been skeptical about CMKM's motives in repackaging the old Smeaton kimberlite as the Carolyn pipe, further work had been recommended on the old find, as the initial investigation had been deemed insufficient. As well, additional work was proposed for the remainder of the Smeaton property, in the hope of properly defining some new drill targets.

The Saskatchewan diamond play has been attracting investors since the late 1980s. There currently are two advanced projects that have at least a shot at being economic, both of them in the Fort a la Corne region, about 30 kilometres to the south of Smeaton.

Shore Gold Inc. is now working on a 25,000-tonne bulk sample of its huge Star kimberlite, which could prove or kill the project. The company previously processed about 140 tonnes of material from one large drill hole, coming up with a grade of a bit over 0.06 carat per tonne.

Shore is hoping to produce at least 3,000 carats from its test, which would require a grade of about 0.12 carat per tonne, and in its more exuberant moments, the company has touted the possibility of coming up with at least 5,000 carats, or about 0.20 carat per tonne. The first results are expected soon.

A group led by De Beers Canada Corp. and Kensington Resources Ltd. has been busy testing the mammoth No. 141/140 kimberlite complex for several years. The partners have come up with an average grade of about 0.07 carat per tonne, based on a cumulative 2,400-tonne sample, with signs of a somewhat higher grade in portions of the pipe, which appears to be larger than the Star complex.

The latest diamond counts from No. 141/140 provide a reasonable basis for comparison with the CMKM results, and offer an indication of what would reasonably be required for a large kimberlite to demonstrate a reasonable degree of economic potential in the Smeaton area.

De Beers and its partners recovered 1,159 diamonds from 595 kilograms of kimberlite, or nearly two stones per kilogram. That was nearly 40 times greater than the rate that the one diamondiferous Carolyn sample had produced diamonds, and it may have been nearly 500 times greater when the 11 barren batches are added in.

Indications of larger stones are of greater importance than raw diamond counts in evaluating kimberlites, and there were some macrodiamonds in the No. 141/140 samples. Six of the diamonds were large enough to be recovered by a 0.425-millimetre sieve, including two that sat on a 0.85-millimetre mesh.

Not included in those counts is a 5.5-millimetre, 0.77-carat stone that had been found during the preparation of the sample. Meanwhile, the two diamonds recovered from the Carolyn sample had been recovered on a 0.106-millimetre sieve.

CMKM still has not matched Mr. Walker's more detailed diamond disclosure, but the company is still busy issuing news about less material matters, including the shutdown of its message board. The board was being used by unsavoury persons to sling racial slurs, said Mr. Casavant in a press release that read more like a typical message board offering, with the liberal use of capitalized nouns and multiple exclamation marks.

Entertaining press releases are not the only unusual quirk with CMKM. Last fall, the company retired large blocks of its shares, and although the exact number is far from clear, it appears that roughly 20 billion of its shares were retired in a series of moves that came just a few months after the company had declared a 2-for-1 split of its shares.

Just how many of CMKM's shares are issued is another unknown, but whatever the number, there is no doubt that the company's abundance of shares are in both great demand and great supply. Nearly 124 billion of them were traded through the first three weeks of June, worth a total of over $80-million (U.S.). A typical CMKM trade was for just over 2.5 million shares and was worth an average of just under $2,000 (U.S.).

Over the same stretch, the gross value of all trades of Aber Diamond Corp., Canada's premier diamond company, was barely $70-million (U.S.).

CMKM was unchanged on Monday, closing at six-100ths of a U.S. cent. United Carina was also unchanged, closing at 18 cents and Pine Channel dropped one-half cent, ending the day at 8.5 cents.


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Should have been signed: JEFF lol
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I'm sure a lot of people here will blow this article off as "bashing" and filled with unproven statements but it appeares to be a well researched and well written article that describes to a "t" CMKX's recent events. These are some of the issues that myself and others here have brought up over and over again and they should be causes for concern to anyone who's into this stock, especially if you bought at the higher levels.
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Not included in those counts is a 5.5-millimetre, 0.77-carat stone that had been found during the preparation of the sample. Meanwhile, the two diamonds recovered from the Carolyn sample had been recovered on a 0.106-millimetre sieve.


I didn't know that a 3/4 of a carat stone was found during the prep! That would have been good news to have put out.


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originally posted by Leardron:
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I didn't know that a 3/4 of a carat stone was found during the prep! That would have been good news to have put out.

That was found in Debeers 140/141 pipe.


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CMKX. Remember this. Very significant...
Urban Casavant placed CMKX shares in escrow with a law firm and filed with the SEC stating that shares would not be traded for 3 years. Very significant IMO...
UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K

CURRENT REPORT

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported) April 17, 2003

CASAVANT MINING KIMBERLITE INTERNATIONAL, INC.

(Exact name of Registrant as specified in charter)

Nevada 0-26919
(State or other jurisdiction (Commission (I.R.S. Employer
of incorporation) File Number) Identification)

1481 W. Warm Springs Road, Suite 133, Las Vegas, Nevada 89014
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip Code)

Registrant's telephone number, including area code: (702) 946-6747


ITEM 9. REGULATION FD DISCLOSURE

On April 15, 2003, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Inc. ("CMKI") entered into an agreement with Urban Casavant, President of the Company, whereby Mr. Casavant agreed to place his shares of CMKI common stock in escrow for a period of three (3) years. During the period of time in which Mr. Casavant's shares are in escrow, Mr. Casavant has agreed not to sell, pledge, or otherwise dispose of any of the shares placed in escrow. However, Mr. Casavant does retain all other rights afforded to him by virtue of owning the shares, including voting rights and rights to dividends and other distributions.Mr. Casavant's shares are being held in escrow by the Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook, Ltd.


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quote:
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originally posted by Leardron:
That was found in Debeers 140/141 pipe.


oops sorry. It got a little confusing which pipe they were talking about.


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tradingpennys..
Your first post was on page 30 (jun 17th) from stockwatch. Did you pick this one from stockwatch too?

[This message has been edited by cool1sh (edited June 22, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
CMKX. Remember this. Very significant...
Urban Casavant placed CMKX shares in escrow with a law firm and filed with the SEC stating that shares would not be traded for 3 years. Very significant IMO...
UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K

CURRENT REPORT

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported) April 17, 2003

CASAVANT MINING KIMBERLITE INTERNATIONAL, INC.

(Exact name of Registrant as specified in charter)

Nevada 0-26919
(State or other jurisdiction (Commission (I.R.S. Employer
of incorporation) File Number) Identification)

1481 W. Warm Springs Road, Suite 133, Las Vegas, Nevada 89014
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip Code)

Registrant's telephone number, including area code: (702) 946-6747


ITEM 9. REGULATION FD DISCLOSURE

On April 15, 2003, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Inc. ("CMKI") entered into an agreement with Urban Casavant, President of the Company, whereby Mr. Casavant agreed to place his shares of CMKI common stock in escrow for a period of three (3) years. During the period of time in which Mr. Casavant's shares are in escrow, Mr. Casavant has agreed not to sell, pledge, or otherwise dispose of any of the shares placed in escrow. However, Mr. Casavant does retain all other rights afforded to him by virtue of owning the shares, including voting rights and rights to dividends and other distributions.Mr. Casavant's shares are being held in escrow by the Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook, Ltd.


IF CMKX WERE A SCAM WHY WOULD URBAN LOCK UP HIS SHARES FOR 3 YEARS ??? HMMMMM ???

Because CMKX is THE REAL DEAL.


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There's nothing new in this article that those of us who are following and doing DD did not already know. I don't think it's bashing, just a recap.
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PAUL
The MM comment in the last post applys to OTCBB only. The others are handled otherwise.
It seems to coming down to VALUE. This is required on all boards in increasing amounts.OTC,NASDAQ,AMEX,NYSE. Mineral reserves count as value. So a ASSET VALUE / O/S that comes to more than a $1 would qualify on NASDAQ, more than $3 AMEX.
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