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Am I the only one who can't get to the last page???
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No Alpha having the same problem. Thanks for starting a new thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by AlphaMale:
Am I the only one who can't get to the last page???

38253825, Rene's Convention posts in one post.

Thanks Rene...

By: 38253825

04 May 2004, 08:51 AM EDT

i am going to be as accurate as I can!

Only read my messages if youyr serious about QBID. Bashers
and pumpers are not why I am reporting. My partner and I did not fly to NO at our own expense to play games!

Here we go!!! 1st of many messages. Hope this helps all serious QBIDer's. As I type, I am eating a Q tv chocolate from the show.

First off, i or my partner are not bashers or pumpers. We met other investors at the ncta as the update stated on the hot line. i also don't know of any b or p's that would spend hptel, air and travel expenses to go to a show.

if you did not know the ropes, you had tp ay $275.00 to get in. Everything i pas on is from our observations and as acuurate as possible.

We went to see about our investment. Having experience at shows/conventions like this, we know how important they are - especcially to a small start-up company like the Q.

The boooth was modest but professional. there were some smaller and some larger but overall you could tell Frank and Rene have some $$$$ tied up in this deal. Locion was great - right by the entrance. Not a lot of glitz and glamour, just to the point. Plain and simple. I am sure that based on my past experience at conventions like this,
Q had 40 - 50 K invested in the show. everything included.

I do not have to prove to anyone I was there. I do have photos of me and my partner at the booth, with frank and Rene and also at the Hustler TV booth with the centerfold---Tera Patrick. Check it out bashers and doubting Thomases.

Frank is just what you see. After spending about five min utes with him, one can tell he has one of those personalities of creativity and ideas. He needs and has surrouned himself with the peole to help him to get his ideas of the ground. Remembe, he has past successes with the Movie Channel and BET. I asked Frank if he paid attention to the internet. He said know, he does not waste his time with people that can't give their real name.
Hesaid he never looks at it--to many phonies. he told us he apprecaited people such as us that were up front and direct. I would say he and the others are very serious about making Q work. There are no guarantees.

Rene Schenk appears to be the key guy. very professional and knowledgeable. He answered as many of our questions as possible. Keep in mind, they were busy and we, along with the other incestors that I talked with tried to let them do their job.

Rene told us point blank that the boooth was only there for a presence. His real task was to meet with the cable carriers. He told me of the meeetings he had set-up with some big name companies. They are names you all know but I do not want to post them. Nothing is set in stone but I will quote rene on this. He expects to have a PR by the end of the week or first part of next. If I may speculate,
and it is only speculation based on what we observed, we think q will have some deals done by the end of thencta. Remember, that is why companies participate in these shows/conventions.

Rewne was very informative about exactly what the soft and hard launch are about. The launches are probably not what we thought. In short, Rene said it is not as easy as "flipping a switch" and your on cable. Without going in to detail, we, the consumers, will probably not be able to get the Q until the end of June, or early July. Those dates are pretty much on target.

I only went to the show for yesterday. I am home now

I also learned that Cafe Express is not authorized to sell QBID products. I l;earned this from Rene because I was wearing a hat i purchased through Cafe. Rene said they will deal with Cafe asap. Right now it is good advertising.

There were many people at booths like Siemens, HBO, Lifetime that were talking about the Q. In fact our name tags, which I kept as a souvenier, said Q television and had exhibitor ribbons attached. We were actually asked many times about Q television and when they learned we had invested, they wanted to know more. I am quoting, the best I can, "q Televison is getting a lot of attention. It is time for something like this".

There is more - taking a small break to check L2 plus my fingers are tired Any questions so far?

makntam- did not hear or ask about a spokes person.

In the curl. As i said rene explained the soft and hard launch to me. I do not have the time or the patience to type it all out.
In the booth were two plasma tv's. The tv.s had some of the first programs running. Keep in mind what I said, soft launch, the way I understand wil be for the cable carriers. The hard launch is the final product we will see on cable in june or July> we did see some of the prgramming and i will post shortly about our conversation with the program director who was there. also.

Stev, sorry i don't know his last name, told me about the programming. They definitely do not want to go the way Pride did---xxx. Very family oriented. One of the bog reasons is, remember this, all cable is not like Hustler. Big cable carriers, some of them, want a wholesome look and feel and do not want to cayse a stir with their sharehoders ar viewers. In fact, when I talked with Frank Rene and Steve, about other gay channels starting up, like Viacom, they were not concerned. Their feeling was it would be took risky at this point plus they are so big, they coulnd't get it of the ground in a timely and cost effective manner. It is very hard for a big company to think small. Good examples are in the airline industry.

Why do airtran, Southwest and Jet blue continue to prosper and grwo while Delta, UA, NW, etc have finacial problems?

They can't get or think small. Hubs are out. Get me from one point to another as quickly, safely and as cheap as possible. Which airlines do that?

The same in our cable business.



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http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA414376?verticalid=311&industry=Pr
ogramming&industryid=1026


The Final Frontier
6 steps to digital cable success

By Allison Romano -- Broadcasting & Cable, 5/3/2004

In this story:
1. Demonstrate a demand
2. Avoid the competition
3. Hire pros
4. Build a realistic model
5. Raise beaucoup bucks
6. Sweeten the deal

Sidebars:
Network Hopefuls


Call it cable's rite of spring. At the National Cable & Telecommunications Association's annual gathering, wannabe cable networks pitch—hard. But few will turn up on your cable listings. Hype is the easy part, says one cable vet: "Until you get funded, you are not a network." New channels typically need $100 million to $150 million to break even.

There was a time when operators needed networks to populate their digital packages. Not any more. "We're looking to leverage the relationships we already have," says Cox Vice President of Programming Bob Wilson.

Industry consultant Cathy Rasenberger, who specializes in startup networks, has heard an estimated 200 proposals in the past few years. The odds of their success are slim, she cautions prospective clients.

About a dozen recently launched channels are making it. Among them: G4, Fine Living, Sí TV, and sports diginets Fuel, CSTV, and Tennis Channel (see list at right). New networks associated with a big media company or distributor stand the best chance. Independents face an uphill climb.

National Cable Television Cooperative President and CEO Mike Pandzick says operators are focused on growing their businesses, not taking on more costs. "Most look at new networks and ask, How much it is going to cost me? How many new subs is it going to get me?"

Adds Pandzick, "That's why most new networks are almost dead in the water. There are so few interests that are not already being met."

But if you want to brave the odds, do it with Rasenberger's help. Here is B&C's tip sheet for starting a digital network.

1. Demonstrate a demand
Cable already offers a dizzying array of niche networks. There are channels for foodies, videogamers, and history buffs. Aspiring outlets must find something new—and prove that people want it.

Launching a channel "is about the hardest thing to do in the world," says Brad Siegel, formerly a Turner Entertainment executive and now vice chairman for startup Gospel Music Channel. "If you don't have a large, passionate fan base, it's a nonstarter."

You need to identify the target and then find data to back up your plan. For the Gospel Music Channel, Siegel and network founder Charles Humbard, a Discovery Networks vet, see a wide-open space. (BET offers some gospel programming, but only a few shows a week.) More important, Gospel Music Channel says this is a proven marketplace: 80 million people a week tune in to such programming. And 8% of all U.S. music sales are for gospel music. Jazz, in contrast, makes up 4% of sales.

2. Avoid the competition
"It can disturb or destroy your business if someone else is competing for distribution and programming," says Rasenberger. Operators and advertisers might say they want alternatives to big, established cable networks, but it's tough going up against major players.

Stand Up Comedy Television, another first-time exhibitor at this week's NCTA show, will offer a lot of standup specials. Remember, Comedy Central has carved out the standup turf; even HBO and Bravo do it. In the gaming space, Game Show Network (now called GSN) and G4 are already up. Two new channels: Casino & Gaming Television is still looking for carriage deals, while Edge TV is joining the fray (see page 32). The channel is eyeing an early-2005 launch and has enlisted the expertise of former ABC Family distribution exec John Burns III, distribution specialist Hot House Media, and talent agency Creative Artists Agency.

Consider diversity. The National Football League's channel is everything NFL, while The Football Network will offer the rest (college, high school, women's football). But do operators want two football-themed channels? Do viewers want all football all the time? Clearly, only the strong survive. So far, The NFL Network has major deals on DirecTV, Charter, and Insight. TFN has secured deals with MSOs Time Warner and NCTC. The NFL Network kicked off last November, but TFN has been plagued by financial problems and may not run till year's end.

3. Hire pros
TV people are good. Cable people are better. There is nothing like the personal touch. It helps open the right doors at Comcast and Time Warner. Take CSTV, for example. Co-founder Brian Bedol is a familiar face in the cable industry. He started Classic Sports, then sold it to ESPN. He's calling on many of the same cable operators pitching his new channel.

Most new channels recruit an industry vet in their executive ranks or on their boards. The reason is simple: Cable can be a frustrating business. "You need to be prepared for a marathon," says TFN chief Jerry Solomon, a former sports agent. "I've negotiated a lot of deals, but I've never seen deals take as long to materialize as [carriage deals]."

4. Build a realistic model
Cable can be a great business, thanks to the dual revenue streams from subscriber fees and ad sales. But that model doesn't apply to many new diginets. With programming costs soaring for existing services, operators don't want expensive new services. They might be willing to shell out a few pennies per subscriber, but not immediately. Maybe not ever.

And don't count on advertising as a stable revenue stream. Sure, a few advertisers will take a leap early. "Some ideas are so interesting, you can take a flyer on it" and make a small buy, says Doug Seay, senior vice president for Publicis & Hal Riney. An early investment can pay off. Buyers usually get in for a dirt-cheap CPM and try to grandfather the rate. If a channel grows, the gamble is a good one.

Most advertisers want to see Nielsen ratings first. Says Seay, "A lot of people won't buy on concept." With hard data, they see who is watching and when.

It's also wise to consider other revenue streams. Rasenberger is keen on concepts with merchandising extensions. She's handling distribution for lifestyle startup Wine Network, which plans to sell wine and travel packages as a way to intoxicate coffers.

5. Raise beaucoup bucks
To begin, you'll need about $5 million in hand. The initial funds go for research, programming, and a road show to woo potential investors, as well as cable and DBS operators. But seed money goes only so far. The building blocks of a channel—more research, acquiring programs, commissioning originals, launch fees—run into a lot of money. The benchmark is at least $100 million. If you plan a lot of originals or live events, kick it up.

Trouble is, venture-capital money is hard to get. And startups face a tough predicament: Cable operators often want to know there is funding before they'll seal a deal. Investors want to see distribution before committing. It takes time to finesse both ends. Budget for at least three years to launch. It could take six to eight years to break even. Some networks die out because they can't sustain the investment. Jokevision, intended to show jokes 24/7 and commercial-free, has put the brakes on development. Backers are devising a sustainable business model.

6. Sweeten the deal
Understand what the operators want and need. Many distributors are pushing specialty tiers like Hispanic and sports packages. That has helped CSTV and the Tennis Channel get carriage. Startup Spanish-language kids network Sorpresa is finding a home on Hispanic tiers.

Other enticements may help sway an operator. Proposed young-adult network XY.tv says it will share ad revenue with early distributors. A few channels, including Wine Network, would share revenue from merchandise sales. Many are offering high-definition and video-on-demand content.

High-tech boondoggles may also work. Take the Anime Network. The channel's parent company A.D. Vision Inc. already owns a vast library of anime programs that it produces and sells on DVD. Starting a cable channel seemed a logical extension. Except that operators pushed back. To prove Anime Network's worth, the channel started as a video-on-demand service. Big MSOs like Comcast, Time Warner, and Cablevision—all eager to push VOD—were hooked.

Going VOD first, says President Kevin Corcoran, "allows us to demonstrate there is a sufficient demand for a 24/7 channel." At least one operator agrees. Anime is expected to announce its first deal, with Insight Communications, this week at the National Show.

Rasenberger's best advice: "Find a model that is expense-neutral and revenue-positive for the operator."

Then you can tackle world peace.


Network Hopefuls
On their way
Anime Network: Japanese animation

CSTV: Broad swath of college-sports events, as well as news and information

Fox Sports Digital Networks: Three channels culled from Fox Sports regional networks' programming

Fuel: Fox Sports' action sports network

G4: Comcast-owned video-gaming network

GolTV: Soccer games and related shows in English and Spanish

Horseracing TV: Live races and related programming

NBATV: League-owned channel with NBA games, entertainment shows, news

NFL Network: League-owned channel with entertainment and news shows but no games

Reality TV: Non-scripted and documentary programming

Sí TV: English-language, Latino-themed programming

Sorpresa: Spanish-language kids programming

The Sportsman Channel: Hunting and fishing programming

The Tennis Channel: Tennis tourneys, news, and information

TV One: African-American-themed network

On the drawing board
America Channel: American-themed non-scripted programming

Casino & Gaming Television: Gaming lifestyle channel

Career Entertainment Television: Work and the workplace

Edge TV: Gaming-themed network, casino and recreational games

Gospel Music Channel: Music videos and related programming

Here! TV: Premium channel with gay- and lesbian-themed programming

Hype TV: Hip-hop music and lifestyles

The Ice Channel: Figure-skating events and instruction

ImaginAsian TV: Asian-American-themed shows, some English-language; carriage on some broadcast stations

The Martial Arts Channel: Movies, instruction, and entertainment

MavTV: Targeting men 18-54 with shows on sports, finance, technology, and sex

The Q Television Network: Gay- and lesbian-themed series and movies

Reality Central: Rerun and original reality shows

Scream Channel: Horror and thriller movies and shows

Southern Entertainment Television: Gospel, folk, and bluegrass music

Stand Up Comedy Television: Standup specials, comedy series, and sketches

The Football Network: Football games (but not NFL) and highlight and instructional shows

Varsity Television: Non-scripted and drama fare for college-age viewers

Wheels TV: Automotive programming

Source: National Cable & Telecommunications Association, B&C




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Hey, I met this guy, I got his name personally. Heheh, he was wearing a QBID hat, how funny.

-chuck

quote:
Originally posted by ron4498:
38253825, Rene's Convention posts in one post.

Thanks Rene...

By: 38253825

04 May 2004, 08:51 AM EDT

i am going to be as accurate as I can!


[This message has been edited by $CashMaker$ (edited May 04, 2004).]


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cash,

glad you made it back in one piece.
Thanks for your DD

GO QBID!!!


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I'm excited to hear what DIANA has to say... I hope it's positive...
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Bart just got his head handed to him in his new QBID thread, check it out
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by $CashMaker$:
[B]Hey, I met this guy, I got his name personally. Heheh, he was wearing a QBID hat, how funny.

-chuck

JUST SPOKE WITH SUSAN AT 760-323-4455. SHE IS SETTING UP LAND MIND CONVERSATION BETWEEN FRANK AND MYSELF AT 11:00. SHE CONFIRMED EVERYTHING POSTED IN THE LAST 2 POSTS.

ADDING DEVENEY WILL BE PUTTING OUT PRESS RELEASES DAILY FOR A WHILE. GO TO WWW. BUSINESS WIRE.COM SCROLL TO TRIANGLE MULTI MEDIA FOR INFO. HOTLINE IS CHANGING DAILY ALSO. DEVENEY WILL AND IS AS WE SPEAK NEGOCIATING CONTRACTS AND PRESS RELEASES AND WILL TAKE OVER ALL CONTRACTS AND PRESS RELEASES TILL AND AFTER THE SOFT LAUNCH. WHICH BY THE WAY IS ON TIME. THE SOFT LAUNCH WILL BE AN HOUR OR 2 OF 15 MIN SEGMENTS--DOCUMENTARY-SPORTING EVENTS--AIDS AWARNESS ETC ETC. SAMPLE PROGRAMMING. THIS IS TO ATTRACT ADVERTIZERS AND BACKERS. IN FACT THIS IS RUNNING AT THE SHOW IN NEW ORLEANS AT THIS TIME. THERE WILL BE NO DELAYS IN THE SOFT LAUNCH. IF DELANEY DOES THEIR JOB--AND WE HAVE SEEN THEIR TRACK RECORD. THE HARD LAUNCH WILL BE COMPLETE ON TIME ALSO. JUNE 2004. JUST AS IT HAS BEEN ADVERTIZED. 99% OF PROGRAMMING IS IN PLACE. MANY ADVERTIZERS ARE IN PLACE. DELANEY WILL HAVE A SBSTANCIAL PRESS RELEASE OUT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

NOW JUST TALKED TO BLAKE AT DEVENEY PR FIRM--THEY ARE ON RETAINER TO ADVERTIZE, PROMOTE, HANDLE ALL FURTHUR PRESS RELEASES AND CONTRACTUAL ADVERTIZING AND PROGRAMMING EVENTS. ALL NEGOCIATIONS WITH TIME WARNER/DIRECT TV/ CABLE COMPANIES AND SATALITE COMPANY'S WILL BE HANDLED BY DEVENEY PR FIRM. ALL BUT 2 OF DEVENEY'S EXECUTIVES ARE AT THE CONVENTION AT THIS TIME AND WILL REMAIN THERE THRU OUT THE CONVENTION. SEC FILING AND ANY RELEASES PUBLIC WILL BE HANDLED BY THE PR FIRM. END OF STORY. BLAKE CONFIRMED A SUBSTANCIAL PRESS RELEASE WILL BE OUT BY THE END OF THE CONVENTION. ALONG WITH DAILY NEW WIRE UPDATES. MEDIA IS EVERYWHERE,

JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH CHUCK. HIS REPORTS OF EVENTS WERE ALSO CONFIRMED. HE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF FINDING OUT INFORMATION. IN FACT THEY ALL REMEMBERED HIM AND SPOKE HIGHLY OF HIS REPRESENTATION OF OUR LITTLE GROUP OF INVESTORS. HE WAS TOLD SOFT LAUNCH WOULD BE 1 HOUR. DELENEY HAS NOW TOLD SUSAN THAT PERHAPS THEY MAY ADD AT LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO THAT TO INCLUDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION RE: PROGRAMMING.

I WILL TALK TO FRANK IN ABOUT 1 HALF HOUR AND REPORT ON CONVERSATION.

I AM NOW E-MAILING SUSAN INFORMATION WE HAVE GATHERED-- RE: DEVENEY AND OUR APRIL 23,2004 UPDATE OF INFO. THEY ARE GOING TO WORK ON GETTING US PROFESSIONAL BROCURES AND BUSINESS CARDS. SHE THANKS US ALL FOR OUR SUPPORT.

FRANK'S CONVERSATION: NO TIME TO TALK--VERY BUSY--HE IS SO EXCITED--SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE KID IN A CANDY STORE--SO MANY MEN--SO LITTLE TIME. LOL HE IS POSITIVE AND UP BEAT. TIRED. CONFIRMED ALL IS ON SCHEDULE. MANY-MANY MANY ADVERTIZERS AND INTERESTED FINANCIAL BACKERS. DEVENEY WILL HANDLE ALL CONTRACTS AND NEGOCIATIONS. HE TOLD ME HE LOVES ME AND THANKS ME FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR HIM AND HIS COMPANY. FRANK ALSO CONFIRMED THAT DEVENEY WILL BE TAKING OVER THE WEB SITE AND HANDLING MATTERS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A FEW DAYS TO A WEEK BEFORE ALL IS UP AND RUNNING. UNTIL THAT TIME THE SITE MAY BE UP AND DOWN ON A REGULAR.


THERE YOU GO FOLKS. THE BEEEEAAAAACH IS GOING TO LAUNCH. IMHO.

WE ARE GOING TO VEGAS AND I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO SEE PHARM IN A TUTU. BRING XANEX. LOL

OH--BUY THE WAY. I INVITED FRANK, SUSAN AND STAFF TO VEGAS. YEAH DADDY. GET THAT PICKLE AND TUTU READY.

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DIANA

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bah

[This message has been edited by $CashMaker$ (edited May 04, 2004).]


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seeing qbid at .0100.... error?
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Diana, your investigative skills are second to none. If I wasn't bouncing from MI. and L.A. constantly, I would find you and give you a big fat kiss. (Or Bart. This may mellow him out.)


Cash- Good work at the convention. Top notch stuff.


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L2's please

thanks,
chuck


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diana

HELLO.

I am calling you now.

-chuck


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thanks for the update diana...
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morning all... nice to see everyone is as happy as I am even though we ae down... I have three words for you all...BUY BUY BUY!
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why are there two threads going? Bart is an outcast now?
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Hang in there guys...don't push the panic button. This is business in action...strictly business...it's what goes to the bottom line...cut and dried. QBID is not a pipedream...what it is, is yet to be determined BUT deal with the facts. I believe those who hang will benefit.

This is not a gut feeling...I've lived thru three businesses that I worked for flat ass going down the tubes, so I know the signs very well. From what I'm perceiving business wise (which ain't far from investment wise), the management of Q Television is on target IMHO.

REACH your goals, but ENJOY the trip.

Bren

PS If I owned a business, I'd offer Diane a <A TITLE="Click for more information about job" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||job|AA1VDw">job</A>!

I'm editing to correct the spelling of DIANA's name...it's important to be accuate with individual's names.

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Editing AGAIN for a FREE STATEMENT. I'd hire Bart too as a "bean counter" but I'd put him in an office in the executive suite and keep him away from other employees. LOL

Perception is reality...is this a negative remark! LOL

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Thanks DIANA... Great Job!
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Thanks Diana, for your report. Thanks to everyone who has taken time out of their schedules to do the research, travel, promote and share the results. You folks are AWESOME!

Mike


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quote:
Originally posted by sonnydbar:
Bart just got his head handed to him in his new QBID thread, check it out

I did. How wrong you are. Anyone who has followed me knows that I nver trade free shares. Never. I own a lot of free shares of omog at .0014. My statement was about I had no extra money to put into it. As with QBID and IBZT I never trade my free shares as most know from my previous post. To make sure that you understand. I am on this thread to clear up your statement. This is a new QBID thread so what I said does not apply. But now I will leave this one also. I never trade free shares. Until I totally get out of a stock for good. I hope this clears things up. If not I do not care. Sorry for the down day. It is working out perfect for me and my day trading this stock.


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the name of the new thread you started kinda says alot about you.
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quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
seeing qbid at .0100.... error?

I saw the same thing... wondering if someone snuck a sale through..? I saw it Ameritrade's streamer if that matters. Would be interesting if it showed up on different tools.

-R


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yeah i got the 0.01 on my ameritrade streamer too. hey i figured we would have a really nice day today? what's happening? i thought the pr from yesterday would have spiked us up?
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got the same .01 on scottrade
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I still think we'll close green today..

Hopefully I am right

quote:
Originally posted by DeadSurf:
yeah i got the 0.01 on my ameritrade streamer too. hey i figured we would have a really nice day today? what's happening? i thought the pr from yesterday would have spiked us up?


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i'm glad i slept in and didn't see us dip. it would've been stressful to see qbid dip like that. no more money to pick up anything, i'm ready for the big news.

send me some pics chuck...nikodemis@aol.com


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NITE needs to push this thing to .03 ASAP
If not him, then someone else.

-chuck

[This message has been edited by $CashMaker$ (edited May 04, 2004).]


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I am begining to think that it will not move, until the hard launch! any opinions? last time it was about to launch was it a hard or soft launch?
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quote:
Originally posted by cool1sh:
I still think we'll close green today..

Hopefully I am right


KEEP THAT ATTITUDE. ATTITUDE IS 100% OF LIFE. IF YOUR ATTITUDE SUCKS YOUR LIFE SUCKS. LOL

CHUCK,

TRULY GLAD YOU MAKE IT BACK IN ONE PIECE. I KNOW I AM OLD BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THE LONG DRIVE ETC.. I COULD NOT SLEEP TILL I KNEW YOU WERE SAFE AND HOME.

I AND THIS BOARD CAN NEVER THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE EFFORT YOU MADE FOR US. WE OWE YOU THE BIG ONE. DID YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING IT? I WAS AFRAID TO TAKE THE RISK AND NOT GET IN AFTER THE WAY THE INFORMATION READ. AGAIN THANKS. AND PLEASE IGNORE THE VISIUAL OF YOU DRESSED I DRAG FLIPPING A CABLE BADGE TO GET IN. I JUST HOPE YA SHAVED YOUR LEGS FIRST. LOL

I KNOW WE GOT A LITTLE SILLY HERE YESTERDAY--BUT IMHO IT WAS MUCH NEED EMOTIONAL THERAPY.
THE WORLD IS A SAD PLACE WITHOUT LAUGHTER. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT LAUGHS==BREN--FABULOUS INSIGHT-PHARM-SPELLING LESSIONS (WHICH WERE WASTED ON ME CAUSE THE ONLY TIME I CAN SPELL OR TYPE IS WHEN I AM PISSED OFF). AND YA GOT A GOOD TASTE OF THAT. LOL I APOLOGIZE ALSO FOR THAT OUTBREAK. IN NO WAY DO I EVER WISH TO BRING NEGIVITY OR DISRESPECT TO THIS BOARD.

BOB--GLAD TO SEE YOU ON BOARD--I HOPE YOU DO WELL. ALSO THANKS FOR GETTING THIS THREAD BACK TO THE GREAT BOARD IS USED TO BE. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU.

GUYS AND GIRLS,

THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT COMPLIMENTS. YOU ALL MADE ME FEEL WONDERFUL YESTERDAY. IT MADE ME REALIZE THAT WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND THE MUTUAL RESPECT WE HAVE FOR EACH OTHER IS PRICELESS. BREN--YOU SAID IT ALL AND VERY WELL. THANKS FOR YOUR INSIGHT AND ABILITY TO BRING US BACK TOGETHER.

U4--THANKS GREATLY FOR THE POSTING OF LEVEL 11. YOU HAVE BEEN A HUGE FACTOR IN THE SUCCESS OF QBID. YOU HAVE MAINTAINED A POSITIVE BALANCE AT ALL TIMES.

EVERYONE ELSE. THE DUE DILIGENCE--EVEN THRU THE INSANE HUMOR--HAS BEEN FREAKING THE BEST. WE ALL NEED TO GIVE OURSELVES A PAT ON THE BACK FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL TIME, EFFORT, DD, AND INTELLIGENT THAT IS GENERATED THRU THIS THREAD. EVEN THE LURKERS HAVE BEEN COMING FORTH TO RECOGNIZE.

SHERRY--ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE IS NEVER REWARD WITHOUT RISK. POTENTIAL IS PRICELESS.

THANKS TO ALL.

DADOG--YOU ARE THE JUDGE--RACHEL WARD OR SALLY FIELDS?

I MIGHT ADD==JANIES LONG FULL BLOND HAIR IS MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN JANE KROWOSKI. ALSO SHE HAS A BRILLIAN NAK FOR THE MARKET AND EXCEPTION INSIGHT AND A BASKET FULL OF COMMON SENSE--I KNOW SHE IS LEARNING--BUT SHE DIFINITELY HAS THE MAKINGS OF A GREAT DAY TRADER. EXCDELLANT BEHIND THE SCENE'S DYUE DILIGENCE. BB--I SAW A SIDE OF BRILLIANCE LIKE A LIGHT BULB WENT ON IN YOU ALSO. GREAT WORK. THE DD BROUGHT TO THE BOARD YESTERDAY WAS OUTSTANDING. THANKS TO ALL.

NOW LETS GAP UP AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.
THE STATAGY OF THE PRESS RELEASE AFTER CLOSING WAS BRILLIANT. MM'S ARE LOCKED AND LOADED AND AS READY TO MAKE MONEY AS WE ARE.
IMHO.

LETS DO IT..


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OFF TOPIC--

TELL IT LIKE IT IS...

Now that food has replaced sex in my life, I can't even get into my own pants.

Marriage changes passion. Suddenly you're in bed with a relative.

I don't do drugs. I get the same effect just standing up fast.

I live in my own little world. But it's OK. They know me here.

I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

I love being married. It's so great to find that one special person you want to annoy for the rest of your life.

A good friend will come and bail you out of jail... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... that was fun!"

I signed up for an exercise class and was told to wear loose-fitting clothing. If I HAD any loose-fitting clothing, I wouldn't have signed up in the first place!

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

If raising children was going to be easy, it never would have started with something called LABOR!

Wouldn't you know it... Brain cells come and brain cells go, but FAT cells live forever.

Just remember... if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.

KEEPING IT REAL. LOL

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Diana, here's some of your excellent DD:

JUST A REMINDER OF WHY WE BOUGHT QB1D.

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:10 am Post subject:

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BRING FORWARD TO REMIND:


NO: 16: SINCE FEB. 2ND, 2004 THE STOCK HAS MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0171.

NO: 17: QBID NOW IS ATTRACTING ATTENTION OF INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS.

NO: 18: News from Business 2.0 Magazine - May 2004 issue, pg. 32

Also available on their website:


BUSINESS 2.0 ----I CALLED BARNES AND NOBLES MAY ISSUE IS OUT AND ON THE STANDS: AMAZING..........

Also available on their website: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/article...85,00.html


" TELEVISION
Gay-per-View
Why do media moguls think pink is so fab? It's simple: Gay and lesbian Americans command an estimated $475 billion in spending power, and advertisers want to reach them. In mid-May, Triangle Television Network plans to launch the first cable and satellite channel for gays and lesbians. Programming will initially be limited to a few sitcom reruns, documentaries, and movies (The Wizard of Oz, anyone?), but watch the competition; Bravo and Showtime have beefed up ratings with gay-friendly fare, and Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone has ordered MTV to accelerate plans for the launch of its own gay channel. "

OPINIONS??? ADDITIONS????


HOPE THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO E-MAIL OUT WITH CURRENT INFO.

SINCE THIS IS UPDATED NOW I WILL CONTINUE MY E-MAILING. IT HAD GOTTEN SO OUT OF DATE THAT I HAD STOPPED. YEEEHAAAA WE ARE ON AN UPWARD GO. LOL THANKS TO ALL THE OUTSTANDING DD OF MANY, MANY PEOPLE. YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!! GREAT JOB!!


APRIL 23, 2004


WE DID THE BEST WE COULD TO COMPILE COMPLETE INFORMATION ON TRIANGLE MULTI MEDIA (QBID). OUR THOUGHTS WERE THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SEND INFORMATION TO A FELLOW TRADER OR E-MAIL AS INFORMATIONAL PACKET TO ENLIGHTEN THEM TO THE OPPORTUNITY INVOLVED IN QBID, THEY COULD DO SO WITH MINIMAL EFFORT.

WE BELIEVE STATEMENTS MADE HERE ARE FACTUAL AND DOCUMENTED.

THERE IS POTENTIAL, SPECULATION, HOPES AND DREAMS. THAT IS A GIVEN.

WHEN THE NETWORK IS LAUNCHED IT WILL BE INCREDIBLE AND ALL OUR LIVES WILL BE BLESSED.

IF IT DOES NOT LAUNCH WE WILL ALL HIT THE SELL BUTTON AND MOVE ON TO ANOTHER HOPEFUL STOCK. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

THIS IS NOT A "BUY THIS YOU ARE GOING TO BE RICH" THREAD. THIS IS A THREAD OF THE POTENTIAL LAUNCHING OF A GAY/LESBIAN T.V. NETWORK.

WILL IT OR WILL IT NOT? WE ALL PAWNED MY CRYSTAL BALLS TO BUY QBID. THE TIME THE PLACE AND POLITICAL SITUATION IS GOOD. WE ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. STILL NO GUARANTEE'S. THAT'S THE FACTS. READ THE INFORMATION AND DO YOUR DD. VERY IMPORTANT.

THIS IS A GAMBLE NOT AN INVESTMENT. YOU ARE SITTING AT THE BLACKJACK TABLE AND THE DEALER HAS A BREAK CARD SHOWING. YOU HAVE A SOFT 17. DO YOU DOUBLE DOWN?

BY THE WAY IT MAY TURN INTO AN INVESTMENT. RIGHT NOW IT IS A GAMBLE. IMHO JUST LIKE ALL PENNY STOCKS.

WE WANT TO THROW OUT A THANKS TO DA MAN WHO STARTED THE 1ST THREAD. YOU KNOW WE LOVE YA AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! RUFF RUFF

CURRENT DOCUMENTED INFORMATION:


CURRENT INFORMATION AS OF 4/23/04

JUST SOME FACTS: TAKEN FROM CONVERSATION WITH FRANK--PARAPHRASING OF PRESS RELEASES--AND OTHER POSTED OPINIONS ON QBID BOARDS.

NO. 1: CEO PROMISES NO REVERSE SPLIT WHILE HE'S CEO.

NOT ONLY IS THIS RARE BUT WITH A PINKIE, AMAZING.

NO. 2: STOCK BUYBACK BY QBID.

THIS ISN'T AS RARE AS NO. 1 BUT PRETTY CLOSE FOR A PINKIE.

NO. 3: WE JUST ADDED A FEMALE WITH 25+ YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT HAS ESTABLISHED HER OWN TV STATION, BEGAN A SMALL FIBER-OPTIC COMPANY THAT IS NOW THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD FOR COMMUNICATIONS, HAS WORKED FOR THE BIG 3 MAJOR NETWORKS IN AREA'S SIMILAR TO WHAT QBID IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH; HENCE "NEW" PROGRAMMING". SHE HAS WORKED IN EUROPE WHICH EAST AND WEST EUROPE WE'RE TRYING TO MARKET.

NO. 4: 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME-WARNER THAT PUTS THE SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN N. AMERICA THERE IS A DEMAND.

NO. 5: ALL SATELLITE SIGNAL HAVE BEEN COORDINATED TO PUT THIS SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

NO. 6: WE ARE NOW OFFERING COMPANY/CORPORATE INCENTIVES FOR 1ST YEAR ADVERTISERS AND CAMPAIGN FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTORS.

NO. 7: THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS STATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS, JUST WATCH YOUR NEWS, READ YOUR PAPER AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND GAY/LESBIAN MARRIAGE, GAY THIS, LESBIAN THAT, YOU MUST BE LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET.

NO. 8: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED CUTTING BACK BUDGET AND EXPENSES TO THE TUNE OF 33,000 PER MONTH.

NO. 9: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED INTERNAL CONFLICTS WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A DRAWBACK. TEAMWORK HAS ALWAYS GOT TO BE IN PLACE IN ANY BUSINESS.

N0. 10: THE ABSOLUTELY MOST POSITIVELY OF THEM ALL. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION BEFORE SOME 3 YEARS AGO AND DIDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND. YES-- HORRIBLE NEWS AND WHY IS THAT SO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GREAT YOU ASK???? THE STOCK HIT ALMOST $1/SHARE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THIS STOCK TRADED AT .0001.

NO: 11: POLITICAL ISSUES HAVE TO ADDRESSED BRINGING A WHOLE NEW FORUM TO THE QBID TABLE...

NO: 12: SMART CEO'S DO HAVE VISION AND LEARN FROM PREVIOUS MISTAKES.

NO: 13: LARGE O/S. THAT HAS NOT STOPPED OTHER COMPANIES FROM SUCCESS. MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0171. DEFINITELY NOT IDEAL--BUT YA KNOW FOLKS WE JUST CAN'T HAVE IT ALL!

NO: 14: THE COMPANY NOW HAS THE QBID HOTLINE OPEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RE: QBID. THE MESSAGE IS UPDATED DAILY WITH NEW AND UPCOMING INFORMATION.

NO: 15: THE COMPANY HAS SECURED AN EXHIBITION BOOTH AT THE NATIONAL NETWORK CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS THE WEEK OF MAY 2ND, 2004. IDEAL LOCATION NEXT TO HBO--COURT T.V. AND THE WWF WRESTLING FEDERATION CHANNELS AT THE ENTRANCE/EXIT. DOES NOT GET MUCH BETTER THAN BEING NEXT TO HBO.

NO: 16: SINCE FEB. 2ND, 2004 THE STOCK HAS MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0171.

NO: 17: QBID NOW IS ATTRACTING ATTENTION OF INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS.

NO: 18: News from Business 2.0 Magazine - May 2004 issue, pg. 32

Also available on their website: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/article...85,00.html
" TELEVISION
Gay-per-View
Why do media moguls think pink is so fab? It's simple: Gay and lesbian Americans command an estimated $475 billion in spending power, and advertisers want to reach them. In mid-May, Triangle Television Network plans to launch the first cable and satellite channel for gays and lesbians. Programming will initially be limited to a few sitcom reruns, documentaries, and movies (The Wizard of Oz, anyone?), but watch the competition; Bravo and Showtime have beefed up ratings with gay-friendly fare, and Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone has ordered MTV to accelerate plans for the launch of its own gay channel. "


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And this:

In the past 6 months, QBID is in an UP trend with an average daily volume of 486.09 million shares. It is a liquid penny stock, suitable for frequent trading. http://www.tradetrek.com/NN/default.asp?symbol=QBID http://charts3.barchart.com/procal.asp?sym=QBID http://quotes.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=QBID http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=qbid

Interesting chart http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5y&...;c=QBID.PK

Triangle Multi Media
Pink Sheet: QBID
Our Mission is to provide education, information, entertainment and other functions for the gay and lesbian community through the development of products, radio programming, television programming and advertising.


Located in sunny Palm Springs, California, Triangle Multi-Media Ltd, Inc, occupies a 12000 square foot state of the art studio complex.

Located in sunny Palm Springs, California, Triangle Multi-Media Ltd, Inc, home of Palm Springs Television Studios, is a publicly traded (QBID) company focused on the production, broadcast and distribution of programming with a special emphasis on integrating the platforms of radio, television and the Internet. Triangle Multi-Media is made up of two divisions:

Triangle Television Group
A complete staff of production personnel including producers, directors, engineering staff and management, including Peabody Award winner, Richard Weiner.

The Triangle Multi-Media Technology Group
The Triangle Multi-Media Technology Group is responsible for the creation and the implementation of cutting edge, interactive tools which allow Triangle Multi-Media to integrate the radio, television, and Internet platforms.

Source: http://www.qbid.net

Triangle Television Network

At TTN we are working hard to develop a line up of top quality GLBT programming that will provide entertainment to all aspects of our community.

Watch For Classic Films

No GLBT network would be complete without it's fair share of wonderful films from Hollywood and around the world. We are working to secure great titles to please the broad tastes of our community.

Watch For Original Programming

Providing our viewers with new and exciting series, we are pleased to be working with some of the top independent talent to develop shows to provide daily and weekly entertainment.

Watch For GLBT Films

Whether they are foreign, timeless, award winners or just plain terrific, GLBT films will find a home on TTN. We are working on securing the hottest titles.

Watch For Classic Television

What could be more fun than looking back at some of the great sitcoms, television series and specials that we cherished? TTN hopes to bring back classics that provided us with endless hours of entertainment.

Programs Designed For The GLBT Community

We will have an impressive lineup of programs designed to serve the GLBT community. From self-help programs to medical updates, TTN will cover all aspects of our lives by bringing documentaries and informative programming to one and all.

Special Event Coverage and More.

Current events, live presentations, concerts and more will be featured monthly on TTN. We will strive to bring you events ranging from, Circuit Parties, Pride Festivals, the Gay Games and many more.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the Triangle Television Network?

TTN is the United State's first television network broadcasting programming exclusively devoted to the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) communities. TTN has been in the development stage for over 8 years. Our mission is to provide high-quality programming designed to entertain, educate and inform the GLBT community. TTN wants to bring our world to your home with programming created especially for you.

How do I receive TTN?

Please call your local cable provider and let them know that you want the Triangle Television Network! If you do not know who your local cable provider is, e-mail us at info@triangletelevisionnetwork.com and we will let you know.

What is the TTN programming standard?

Our broadcast standards are the same standards that channels such as Showtime and HBO adhere to. TTN programming will consist of a combination of originally produced programs, GLBT oriented movies, local programming from various cities across America, shows from around the world as well as special event programming. Future plans call for the development of both a full-scale news department and news magazine programs skewed to the gay and lesbian community. We will also cover national gay events, such as AIDS Conferences and Pride festivities worldwide.


Contact Information:

By Phone:
760-322-1217

By Fax:
760-323-4621

By Mail:
Triangle Television Network
810 N. Farrell Drive
Palm Springs, CA 92262

E-mail:


info@triangletelevisionnetwork.com

sales@tri angletelevisionnetwork.com

programming@triangletelevisionnetwork.c om http://groups.msn.com/QBIDTriangleMulti...;PhotoID[/ URL] =5 [URL=http://groups.msn.com/QBIDTriangleMultiMediaInc-/_whatsnew.msnw]ht tp://groups.msn.com/QBIDTriangleMultiMe...tsnew.msnw http://www.inc.com/magazine/19900101/4988.html http://www.thenationalshow.com/ncta2004...booth=1527
Not only is QBID going to be at the convention but we are the very first booth. Not in a dusty corner, not hiding behind a portapotty....ohhh no, THE VERY FIRST BOOTH THAT ALL VISITORS WILL SEE.
LOOK at this:
Go to the following Convention web site then look to your right side
you will see a Box saying Exhibitor list scroll down this list till
you get to our Q-Channel, then Click it, you will then see just where the QBID Q-Channel booth is RIGHT AT THE ENTERANCE. Great
location, everyone that goes to this convention MUST pass the QBID BOOTH. Put your cursor on each booth and it will tell you who it is! http://www.thenationalshow.com/ncta2004...D=1&Di http://www.gfn.com/forum/forum.phtml?fid=6 http://www.q-notes.com/life4.htm http://www.advocate.com/ http://www.stockhouse.ca/news/news.asp?...;tick=QBID http://cbs.marketwatch.com/discussions/...p?siteId=g oogle&parentId=2&forumId=24&boardId=15582&msgId=9769 http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/3/prwebxml114382.php http://customers.wwquote.com/allpennystocks/OTC.asp http://rainbowfish.typepad.com/ronandroger/television/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4700967/ http://www.washblade.com/2004/4-9/news/.../gaytv.cFM http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040315/nym013_1.html


Triangle MultiMedia Soars on Launch of Gay and Lesbian TV Channel
By Tom Bustamante,
Staff Reporter
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Apr 14, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Triangle MultiMedia Ltd., Inc. (QBID) has announced that "TRIANGLE TO HAVE MAJOR PRESENCE AT NCTA CONVENTION."
During a question and answer session between Triangle MultiMedia's CEO and President Frank Olsen with financial analysts, Mr. Olsen stated, "TTN is on schedule to become a major gay and lesbian television network. The `soft launch" (Previously announced in a press release on May 15th) is online to begin broadcasting to carriage industry corporations and advertisers nationwide. The creation of a new 24-hour channel television network featuring a broad spectrum of programming directed at gay and lesbian audiences, will be offered to cable and satellite systems throughout the United States. The network will feature original plays, motion pictures, series and documentaries as well as sports, travel and lifestyle programming combined with live news broadcasts and specials.

Olsen went on to say, "The recent validation of our concept in national media this past week continues to show the vast potential and unique viability of our network concept"

QBID Overview

The Triangle Television Network (the 'Company' or 'TTN'), a wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc (QBID) was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While TTN expects much of its subscriber base will be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. TTN's programming will be provided on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The Triangle Television Network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the Triangle Television Network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Safe Harbor Statement

As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; Triangle Multi-Media's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

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Survey: Gay Consumers Among The Earliest Technology Adopters
By Newswire Report
Thursday, July 17, 2003

Gay men and women are among the first to adopt new devices and online tools, making them an important demographic for online marketers. That's according to Forrester Research, Inc., which for the first time recently asked respondents to its annual Consumer Technographics Benchmark Study of 60,000 households to indicate their sexual orientation. "Gays Are The Technology Early Adopters You Want" includes data on device adoption and online behavior by gay men and women, as well as recommendations on how to best market to this influential group.


"Gay men and women are tech-savvy consumers who use the Internet and tech devices at significantly higher rates than their heterosexual counterparts for shopping, banking, entertainment, and community building," said Jed Kolko, principal analyst at Forrester. "Marketers need to take a close look at the consumer behavior of gay men and women to determine a strategy in targeting a group of consumers who have been consistently overlooked."


In addition to being wealthier and better educated, gay men and women are avid Internet users. Eighty percent of gay men and 76 percent of lesbians are online, compared with 70 percent of straight men and 69 percent of straight women. Gays are also one-third more likely to have broadband connections and have been online longer than heterosexuals. Twenty-nine percent of gay men and women have been online for more than seven years, versus 18% of heterosexuals.


Although any group of higher-income, more highly educated consumers will be earlier adopters of technology, significant differences in gays' technology behavior emerged after adjusting statistically for online tenure and demographic differences. Gay men, for example, are more likely to own portable MP3 players and browser-enabled phones, and they are more than two times likelier to own a personal video recorder (PVR) device like TiVo. Gay men and women also turn to the Internet in higher numbers for entertainment and community-building activities. The Internet makes it easier for gays to meet online without the pressures of losing one's anonymity and provides a link to the gay community through tools like text chat, instant messaging, and personal Web pages.


In an effort to reach gay consumers, Forrester recommends that marketers target gay audiences directly by advertising in gay publications and at gay events. Additionally, because gay men and women differ from heterosexuals in many of the same ways when it comes to consumer behavior, marketers can treat the gay market as a single audience. It may be best, however, to avoid asking consumers about their sexual orientation for direct marketing purposes. Twenty percent of respondents did not answer Forrester's sexual orientation question - for the time being, inquiring about consumers' sexuality may not be worth the effort and potential of alienating consumers. http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news....sID=212572

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Boy, Diana, you sure did a ton of work on this!
Here's more:

Products: GME

and J.P. Publishing, Inc.

Marketing to Reach the Gay & Lesbian Community
What is the Gay Market?
Gays and lesbians are sometimes elusive to quantify, but major advertisers have increasingly found that their efforts are well worth the investment to find them and for good reason. A recent study conducted by the Connecticut-based Greenfield Online, found that the average annual household income for gays and lesbians is $57,000. The New York-based Company, Spare Parts, Inc., which helps companies market to gays, estimates that the United States gay and lesbian population is between 15 million to 23 million. According to another study (Inter@ctive Week, August 30, 1999. Pg. 20.), the US gay community consists of over 19 million people with an estimated buying power of $800 billion. Worldwide, these figures are much larger.

Below is a benchmark that helps to bring this market more into focus, allowing us to compare it to other diversity niche communities in the US marketplace.

Market Population Buying Power Buying Power
Per Capita
African American 30 Million $535 Billion $17.8K
Gay American 16.5 Million $450 Billion $27.3K
Hispanic American 31 Million $383 Billion $12.4K
Asian American 11 Million $229 Billion $21.0K
Source: Selig Center for Economic Growth, University of Georgia


Sample Demographics Analysis From Various Gay & Lesbian Websites:
(Click on links for more detailed demographics) GaySports.com
- 90% Male / 10% Female
GayWork.com
- 70% Male / 30% Female
GayWired.com
- 96% Male / 4% Female
ProudParenting.com
- 30% Male / 70% Female
Navigaytion.com
- 82% Male / 18% Female
LesbiaNation.com
- 1% Male / 99% Female

Top Gay Regional Analysis From Various Gay & Lesbian Websites: Top Zip Codes (US)
Top Counties (US)
US States (Ranked 1-50)

Reaching The Gay Market:
Reaching the gay market effectively means creating advertising and other marketing communications specifically directed toward their consumer mindset. In the early '90s, it was sufficient to run mainstream advertising in a gay publication to capture the attention of the market. Today, with more marketers vying for the gay consumer dollar, the bar has been raised. Gay consumers now expect advertisers to address them for who they are, directly and openly. In focus groups nationally, gay men and lesbians express a definite preference for advertising that specifically reflects their mindset and sensibilities.

Rarely can gay marketing efforts rely on traditional advertising alone. Extending your reach among this audience requires understanding the community infrastructure available to access them. The result is often a sophisticated mix of advertising, direct marketing, community presence and Internet promotions. http://www.gaymarketexpress.com/

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QBID, via its wholly owned subsidiary "The Q Television Network," appears to be on the verge of becoming the first U.S. broadcaster of 24/7, family oriented TV tailored for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered (GLBT) Communities!


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===> 20 April 04: Q Television "Investor Hotline" came on line today Call 888-594-7766 for recorded daily updates.

===> 16 April 04: Name change to "Q Television Network" in "Hollywood Reporter!" http://home.businesswire.com/portal/sit....jsp?epi-c ontent=GENERIC&newsId=....

"As much a part of Hollywood as the big sign on the hill, The Reporter has been the book of record for the entertainment industry for seven decades." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/about_us/index.jsp

===> 16 April 04: Name change from the TTN to "The Q Television Network" is official. (See news story below.) Home page of new website is up; remainder is imminent. Indications are very strong that company is taking extraordinary steps to make extra big "splash" at NCTA Convention, now just two weeks away. Strong rumors also abound that the Q Television Network is on schedule to "light-up" (for "soft broadcasting" launch) on 15 May 04. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C04%5C16....

===> 13 April 04: AND A HEARTY WELCOME TO P E N N Y L A N D EVERYONE ... QBID broke $0.01 today at approximately 1:45 PM EST!!!

===> 01 April 04: Rumored "Q Television Network" (AKA QBID, AKA "The Triangle Television Network") to have major presence at May 1-5 NCTA Convention. "The National Cable and Telecommunications Association, formerly the National Cable Television Association, is the principal trade association of the cable television industry in the United States. NCTA represents cable operators serving more than 90 percent of the nation's cable television households and more than 200 cable program networks, as well as equipment suppliers and providers of other services to the cable industry. In addition to offering traditional video services, NCTA's members also provide broadband services such as high-speed Internet,. NCTA also hosts the industry's annual trade show, this May 2-4 in New Orleans, La. which serves as a national showcase for the cable industry's innovative services, including quality television programming, interactive television services, high-speed Internet access, and competitive local telephone service." http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C04%5C01....

From the following, hit "Exhibitor List" at right; then scroll to "Q Television Nework." http://www.thenationalshow.com/

===> 29 March 04: Viacom Inc.'s Chairman and CEO Sumner Redstone now believes gay TV channel ..."Worth a Billion Dollars..." http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/29/news/fo..._gaytv.dj/

===> 15 March 04: "Olsen and Lamont to Broadcast Gay Network - PALM SPRINGS, Calif., March 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- Triangle MultiMedia Ltd., Inc. (QBID) announces the creation of a new television network. This 24-hour channel, featuring a broad spectrum of programming directed at gay and lesbian audiences, will be offered to cable and satellite systems throughout the United States."http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040315/nym013_1.html

===> 25 Feb 04: In PR today, Triangle's Steven Grunberg, President of Programming, announces a co-production deal with Red Soapbox Visual Media, LLC in which "TTN's first in-house production will be a current documentary on gay marriages in San Francisco and the politics involved." http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C25....

===> 19 Feb 04: In Press Release, Frank Olsen indicates satellite broadcast of TTN signal to run indefinitely...will commence in two months; also officially underscores ten-year contract with Time-Warner Cable that "enables us to place our signal throughout the Time-Warner system on a market-by-market basis:" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C19....

===> 18 Feb 04: "The Desert Sun," Palm Springs' principal daily newspaper, speculates on the launch of "The Triangle Television Network:" http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/storie...0917.shtml

===> 10 Feb 04: Simultaneous Press Release Announcements: Limited stock buy back program; 1 May 04 internal deadline to commence uplinking to cable headends and DDS companies; Negotiations for business combo with experienced company having seasoned television management and creative staff; 15B shares authorized, 7 1/2 B shares outstanding, 6000 existing shareholders. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 9 Feb 04: QBID's TTN to be available to about 10,000 cable television companies throughout the United States and Puerto Rico for $2 a month for each subscriber. Time Warner Cable television has agreed to make the signal available to any of its local system operators that want to broadcast it. http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cko%5C2004%5C02%5C10....

===> 6 Feb 04: Rumored (Caution!): Look for continuation of breakthrough broadcasting related news early next week; 3+ billion shares traded today!

===> 2 Feb 04: "TTN Ready to Commence Broadcasting!" http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.js...Ftextpath% 3DCOMTEX%5Cpr%5C2004%5C02%5C02....

===> 5 Nov 03: Openly Gay African-American Elected Mayor of Palm Springs. http://www.notesfromhollywood.com/page....l&ID=5 51&sto.... Also from story: Three of five of Palm Springs' new leadership now openly gay or lesbian, while 35-40% of Palm Springs' populace is estimated to be gay or lesbian.

===> 31 Oct 03: Rumored (Caution!): Sample TTN broadcasts via Network Teleports, Inc. http://www.networkteleports.com/ possible tonight, with full time broadcasting to begin next Monday 3 Nov 03. Smaller press releases after 3 Nov leading up to big time news on about 15 Nov 03, coordinated by newly hired promotion company.

===> 15 Oct 03: MeTV Related ( http://www.metv.com ) - Microsoft introduces DSL broadband TV Platform to complement existing Microsoft Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) broadband modem platform http://www.microsoft.com/europe/telecom2003/#keepithere . . . Microsoft and Bell Canada team up to test Microsoft DSL TV http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5085202.html . . . MeTV is member of a 30 company consortium, "The Service Creation Community," that includes Microsoft, Oracle, Netcom, British Telecom, Juniper Networks, Siemens, and Goldman Sachs, whose purpose is to accelerate deployment of new broadband technologies into the marketplace http://www.servicecreation.org/members/directory.html . . . MeTV now advertises capabilities for internet DSL, internet broadband, and 2-way satellite television on its web site.

===> 12 Sept 03: Posted on TTN Site: "Triangle Television Network Reaches Agreement for Satellite Broadcast Services" http://www.ttntv.com/news.html

===> 14 Aug 03: Is the new TTN domain name (and maybe a refurbished web site as well) about to be fired up? http://www.ttntv.com

===> 8 Aug 03: Triangle's new logo now appears on MeTV site under "Sneak Previews." Using Microsoft Media 9 Series Software, MeTV can now deliver high quality TV programming via broadband to anywhere in the world at little expense to the user: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window...fault.[/UR L] aspx

===> 21 July 03: Recent surge of major developments favoring acceptance of gay lifestyles has advertisers scrambling to compete for gay loyalties: [URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23970-2003Jul21.htm l]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23970-2003Jul21.html

===> 18 July 03: Canada's government proposes legalizing same xxx marriages: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92292,00.html Time Warner Cable is not prone to picking up specialty channels unless perceived to have decent prospects for success: http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/6330224.htm

===> 16 July 03: Bravo Channel's "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" sets new ratings records: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...7/en_n..[/ URL] ..

===> 13 July 03: Validation of Concept for 24/7 GLBT TV marches along, this time via heavyweight Bravo TV's upcoming new weekly, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" on 15 July. [URL=http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/]http://www. bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/ .

===> 8 July 03: From an article at Gay.com ... The plan, first announced by Showtime/MTV in Nov 02, to launch an all-gay, 24-hour cable television channel by the Spring of 03 has been placed on hold indefinitely, allegedly due to the poor state of the economy. After launch, this appears to allow TTN to lay claim to the title "First 24/7 gay TV network in the U.S."

===> 7 July 03: (Revised): There is evidence now, via persons communicating with TW, of TTN trying to arrange a first wave of simultaneous separate PRs issued through multiple local TW marketing units from around the country. Since there would be logistical complexities in getting this to all play together, a few extra days of delay in getting the PRs out should not be unexpected. See also http://xxxxxxxx.lycos.com/mboard/boar...read=70048 . In the meantime, "Pay Per View" and rival "Direct TV" have fired a shot (of sorts) across TWC's (and TTN's) bow: http://www.amtdrt.inlumen.com/bin/story...bKbytu0otu

===> 4 July 03: At a time when the summer heat is still heading in the upward direction, it seems intriguing that TMM is suddenly reversing itself by switching back to regular-season hours! It was only a short time ago that the company announced that it had scaled back to reduced hours for the summer (not unusual for P.S. businesses during the hot months). Yet, today's updated after hour phone recording states that TMM's "new" summertime hours will be 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM starting next Monday, 7 July.

===> 2 July 03: Triangle Multi Media President and CEO Frank Olsen gives audio interview on "Wall Street Reporter." Highlights 10 year, multi-city deal for TV carriage via Time Warner Cable, potential for retail product spinoffs, as well as goal to be listed on an exchange by end of 2004: http://www.******************.com/linke...MEDIA.html

===> 1 July 03: June 20-26 article affirms that popular actor and producer-director Bob Poirier (AKA Bobby Roger) is coming back to help spearhead TTN launch: http://www.portlandphoenix.com/televisi...958184.asp

===> 30 June 03: Amazing 737 million shares traded today! Intraday high upticked to $0.0003. Next best chance for first round of PR's seems to be immediately after the upcoming 4th of July weekend. Meanwhile, check out today's AOL TW's "Opportunity Investment Fund" announcement. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030630/305395_1.html .Could one of the upcoming PR's be similar to this but with Triangle's name in it?

===> 27 June 03: Now prominently posted on Triangle's web sites: ON QBID SITE: <><> "Qbid takes Pride in the announcement of TTN, inc., in which Qbid has a vested interest, concerning their relationship with Time Warner Cable. For further information please see TTN's website at http://www.triangletelevisionnetwork.com " ... and ON TTN SITE: <><> "TTN PROUDLY ANNOUNCES A 10 YEAR NATIONAL CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER CABLE. Target Cities and Launch Dates are currently being reviewed and will be announced soon. Watch For Further Announcements." <><> In the meantime, just two days ago a U.S. Supreme Court decision was handed down that overthrew Texas' anti sodomy law that was being used to discriminate against gay couples. And just a few days before that, Canada legalized same xxx marriages. Certainly we are at a point in history where acceptance of gay rights is accelerating and is in the forefront of the news. Is the order and close timing of the above events a complete coincidence, or is there something more going on here? The scope and (arguably) almost urgent tone of TTN's post sure seems to be signaling the possiblity that TW has now abruptly entered a "get TTN on the air around the country without delay" mode.


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I had to paste this in parts, cuz it wouldn't allow that much at once.

Here's the rest of your main post:
===> 23 June 03: PR on 24 or 25 JUNE? Two callers reaching separate people at the company, and reporting on another board, are told there might be a PR tomorrow or Wednesday. Huge volume uptick today to over 97 million shares; price jump at end of day to close at $0.0002!

===> 21 June 03: IMPORTANT POSITIVE BREAKTHROUGH HAS APPARENTLY BEEN REACHED WITH TW IN ONLY LAST DAY OR TWO that will permit the release of considerably more information on the contractual relationship between TW and TTN. A PR may come out the week of 23 June that could reveal this relationship publicly for the first time. If so, the PR will likely also reveal fresh evidence of TW's attempts to get TTN launched at the first opportunity. This could finally mark the beginning of very exciting times for TTN (and for QBID Shareholders). Question:...Could news a couple of days ago proclaiming that same xxx marriages in Canada are now legal have anything to do with what is happening?


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KATU 2 News - Portland, Oregon www.katu.com

Travel industry excited about gay travel
April 1, 2004

- By JASON STRAZIUSO
PHILADELPHIA - The travel industry, already excited about the growing niche of gay tourism, hopes the recent surge in same-xxx marriage translates into a new travel segment: gay honeymoons.

In the wake of a handful of cities' granting marriage licenses to same-xxx couples, merchants catering to gay couples have seen a spike in business, as limousine services, photographers and vacation locations try to attract the dollars being spent by gay couples.

Gayweddings.com, an advertising portal for wedding resources and vacation getaways, has seen its number of advertisers increase fourfold since a November court ruling in Massachusetts that will allow gay couples to marry in mid-May.

"It's been a big boom," said K.C. David, president of the Web site, which has been online since 2000.

The travel industry is embracing the new segment nationwide, from Portland, Ore., where same-xxx couples can get a marriage license, to Pennsylvania, where couples are holding commitment ceremonies. Tour operators in several states have set up special rates for gay honeymooners.

The Bucks County Conference and Visitors Bureau in suburban Philadelphia had a booth at the Same xxx Wedding Expo held in New York last month, whose exhibitors included travel planners and hotels. Bucks County even has a dedicated gay Web site: www.gaybuckscounty.com.

"It's definitely a market that has a lot of potential for us," said Keith Toler, executive director of the Bucks County tourism bureau.

Gay marriage has provided "an economic boom" to Portland, Ore., as gay couples and their families fly in for weddings, said Joe D'Alessandro, president of the Portland Oregon Visitors Association.

"As this continues, people are planning receptions and much more formal weddings," he said. "As it matures, it becomes an even greater economic boost."

How same-xxx marriage might increase gay tourism was a hot topic last week at the fifth annual International Conference on Gay and Lesbian Tourism in West Hollywood, Calif., said conference attendee Jeff Guaracino, of the Greater Philadelphia Tourism Marketing Corp.

Regional tourism bureaus and companies like Delta Air Lines, American Airlines and Avis attended the convention to see how they can attract business from gay tourism, which Guaracino said is in its "infancy stage." He said gay honeymooners are a "a niche within a niche."

"Destinations are wrestling with this new market and new opportunity," he said.

Gay travelers spend $54 billion a year, according to an analysis by Community Marketing Inc., a firm that monitors gay tourism and which hosted last week's international gay and lesbian tourism seminar.

The gay travel market is particularly lucrative because gays tend to have more disposable income and a greater propensity for travel than non-gays, according to Community Marketing.

Philadelphia, which launched a gay campaign last fall using the slogan "Get your history straight, and your nightlife gay," is now producing a commercial targeting gays.

That commercial will be the first by a city to target a gay audience, said Mike Wilke, executive director of the Commercial Closet Association, a nonprofit group that tracks gay representation in ads.

The commercial - combined with an increase in gay print advertisements from places like Key West, Fla., and Provincetown, Mass., the last several years - shows that awareness and acceptance of gays has reached a "critical mass," Wilke said.

"It's interesting that (the commercial) is coming from Philadelphia, which most people don't consider the gayest place," Wilke said.

Avis, which had a local representative at the California convention last week, has been courting gay travelers for years, said spokesman Ted Deutsch.

"We see the gay and lesbian market as significant in size and very brand loyal," he said. "And we believe in serving as many customers as possible."

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) http://www.katu.com/printstory.asp?ID=65974

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