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BADGUARD
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I'm new to this board. just thought i would share this link i came across. http://www.nanoelectronicsplanet.com/nanochannels/products/print/0%2C%2C10460_1481341%2C00.html it had an article. i don't know how trustworthy it is. thought maybe the more experienced people could check it out. like i said i'm a rookie.

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Yea thats great, but look at the date on the artical! Oct. 14, 2002!! lolololol
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Originally posted by BADGUARD:
I'm new to this board. just thought i would share this link i came across. http://www.nanoelectronicsplanet.com/nanochannels/products/print/0%2C%2C10460_1 481341%2C00.html it had an article. i don't know how trustworthy it is. thought maybe the more experienced people could check it out. like i said i'm a rookie.

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Watch CTKH this week. It looks ready to start its ascent to penny land. Resistance at 0.007, but with some positive news, it could reach 0.01

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2427323


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what is with oct. of 2002 ?
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well, oct., 2002 was the 10th month of 2002. It began on the 1st and ended on the 31st.
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Originally posted by GOADY911:
what is with oct. of 2002 ?


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knee high,
The uptick.com information was NOT in 2002. It is NEW..not recycled. Take a peek.
This is big big big..

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If this stock is so great why then does Wall Street ignore it? I am a newbie so be courteous to me.....
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Actually, I am wondering myself . Anyone with a good explanation?
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The question you want to ask is, why are ALL the stocks on WallStreet being ignored today?.....

With stocks, and especially new technology that is being developed or sold, you cannot expect an OVERNIGHT BOOM to $1....especially with CTKH. This is going to take time. All stocks take time to re-adjust and I think with the coming elections, things are going to get even screwier....but not to fear...KERRY IS HERE!...LOL...OR MAYBE NADER IS HERE!...LOL

ELECTION YEARS ARE ALWAYS THE SCREWIEST WITH STOCKS....


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Why isn't this thing turning around yet?
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Gpmac,

Hate to disagree with your assessment. But
CTKH has been around for a while and under
different symbols.

It produces PR that says just enough to
get people to invest. They will not answer
questions about the company or who their
customers are... They will not produce any
figures that support their claim to have
the first profitable quarter in years. They
will not even tell anyone a figure associated
with their 185% claim.

They use Stock Center as their investor relations
but do not provide any information to
Stock Center beyond the Press Releases.

I put forward many questions to their
investor relations and have not had a
single question answered beyond the company
saying that they do not answer questions
beyond the press releases.

They have given me a number to contact
that has yet to be answered after many
calls over the last two weeks. They will
not send me an e-mail to answer my questions
they say they want to explain them over the
phone.

I recently purchase many shares of CTKH
so that I could prove a point and ask
legitimate questions of the company as
a stockholder.

bottom-line ... Dream a Dream but if
you expect the stock to hit a dollar
at any time in the future I would suggest
pulling up a ******g chair. In my humble
opinion it is going to be a very long wait.

If you wonder why Wall Street has not taken
notice. I would say it has and thus CTKH
is where it is...



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Just so people know I did not
use any improper language in my
last post. I was shocked to see
r o c k i n g c h a i r being
Star'ed out.

I posted this because the astrix
made it seem as though the post
was derogatory.


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LOOKS LIKE CTKH IS MAKING A NICE MOVE..

YEE HAAAAA

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DIANA


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A 500 signal just went thru couple of minutes ago, if I read Scottrade right.

GLTA


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Scottrade gives you Level II on Pinks?
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quote:
Originally posted by rajarammx:
A 500 signal just went thru couple of minutes ago, if I read Scottrade right.

GLTA


I read it from the quickquote of Scottrade...

Glta
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Interesting info from a conversation with Hilal...take it for what it's worth but this guy is very credible. Really gives some insight to the last p.r. and reasons for the lack on info from ctkh.

Now about the phone call with Fayiz.

I started the call by telling him that we were all very excited about the direction the company is going. I told him that in my judgment, as we read between the lines of the last PR there was a lot to be excited about. His response was that he was glad that I had read between the lines, because many people had called and told him that they felt there was nothing there.

I asked him if the buyback was the reason that the last report was so general in nature. He said no. He told me that he really did have to submit the report, not just to his attorney but to that SEC legal department too.

He would not confirm anything about the buyback. Because there are those who would use the information for financial gain.

I then informed him that I have been very impressed by his leadership of the company through the dot com crash and the R/S difficulties.

I then asked him if there was any way that we could get more specific financial information. His immediate response was that the company was very well off financially. As he put it, the fact that they were doing the buy back means that they could afford it.

He said that his long range goal for CTKH is to be listed on the NASDAQ, as he put it, for the welfare of all of the shareholders. He agreed that as a pinkie we are at the mercy of the shareholders. He says that it is their intention to offset their hold by getting more attention to their stock. As he put it by getting more attention to their stock that will keep the market manipulators (his words) off balance.

He said that financially they are "extremely well off." He said that they have gone through the bad times and they are better now.

I then asked him if he saw a time in the forseeable future when they could begin giving us some solid financial figures. He sais that they are currently considering the possibility of including eanings, profit, and profit per share figures. Things like that.

I told him that as investors it is important that we get such information so that we know that we have our money invested wisely.

He told me that it is up to his attorney. That he has limited their press releases to on per quarter so that they cannot get in trouble with the SEC for pump and dump.

For those of you who doubt that statement by him you need to check out my Comp. DD Report and you will see an example of a report last year where Hilal published a report that he was immediately required to retract. The SEC has slapped his hands, once and he has been super careful ever since then.

He said that the SEC now requires them to provide proof of everything that the plan to put in their reports. He said that one of the ways to satisfy the SEC that they are not a pump and dump is to limit their press releases.

For example he said that his original draft of the last report included specific dollar amounts in the second paragraph. But his attorney made him take it out because it could be considered a pump and dump move. He said that in his opinion, the result was that paragraph was very weak. And he was not satisfied with it, but could do nothing about it.

We chatted about that for a while. We talked about the "Better than you could imagine" comment. And he reafirmed it. And he said that was one of the things they made him take out of the second paragraph.

I suggested that he give more infomation to Jim Stock. I also suggested a mid quarter report. So that there won't be so much lag time between report that kills the momentum. I told him that when we don't hear from them for 3 months the MMs kill us. And that it is hard to justify staying with a postition when the MMs retrace the stock price 50%.

I told him that the key is for him to put himself in our place and ask himself what informtion he would want from CTKH to justify his investment. He said he understood and would talk it over with his attorney.
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It's been about 10 days since the last post on this. Has anyone heard anything? Is the buyback complete or what?
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Look at the volume over the past 5 trading days. Somewhere in there you should see a LARGE volume spike with a very unproportionate gap up or down in price..hint hint

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Originally posted by Trader O:
It's been about 10 days since the last post on this. Has anyone heard anything? Is the buyback complete or what?


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Nuke....

I must have been absent that day in school when they taught that. Would you be so kind to elaborate?

quote:
Originally posted by NukeMeds:
Look at the volume over the past 5 trading days. Somewhere in there you should see a LARGE volume spike with a very unproportionate gap up or down in price..hint hint



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Large buying volume with little or no price change usually indicates insider or institutional buying

Sorry about being vague, was late and tired.

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Nuke....

I must have been absent that day in school when they taught that. Would you be so kind to elaborate?


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Thanks for the clarification Nukemeds. I was kinda wondering but was afraid to ask.

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have held this for quite awhile ready for a spurt.
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how do i buy shares for nanotechnology?
please help.
under what symbol or name are they on the market?

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quote:
Originally posted by rita7uk:
how do i buy shares for nanotechnology?
please help.
under what symbol or name are they on the market?

CTKH ....


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Big meeting Wed with a shareholder and Hilal. The books will no longer be a mystery. We WILL know all info on this company. Watch for a pr on Wed at the latest. Everything you ever wanted to know will come out this week.
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Might be everything you didn't want to know too.
quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Big meeting Wed with a shareholder and Hilal. The books will no longer be a mystery. We WILL know all info on this company. Watch for a pr on Wed at the latest. Everything you ever wanted to know will come out this week.


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Late day volume and buying at .003

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Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040730/305233_1.html

Cetek Technologies Issues Status Report
Friday July 30, 9:26 am ET

POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 30, 2004--Cetek Technologies, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CTKH - News), a manufacturer of ceramic components and ceramic substrate material for the electronics industry, files the following update for second quarter 2004.

Management takes this opportunity to briefly report on the status of operations, as is customary, having completed the second quarter, and first half, of 2004.

Sales revenues continue to grow, with the recently ended second quarter being the strongest yet in production and shipment of our proprietary ceramic substrate product. Revenues were up 51% from the previous quarter, and Cetek continues to operate with net positive cash flow and profitably.

As reported previously, demand for our products is increasing. Additional production capacity is needed, to meet current and future, production requirements. Management has been working on how best to increase production capacity. One possibility, being that of acquiring an additional facility or company. Fortunately, Cetek's resources, from previous successful funding activities, will be available to use towards this production capacity issue. Capitalization of the corporation was enhanced in the past year through the issuance of private placement common shares, which in itself, demonstrates strong support for the management of the company and its technology from the investors' community. This effort is facilitating the company's continued expansion of its product line and in general, the growth of the bus.

As we have previously stated, we do not anticipate any circumstances that would cause us to undertake a reverse stock split of our common stock.

The company's official website was launched in the past quarter, www.cetektechnologies.com and it will be updated on an ongoing basis.

The company is expected to have its annual shareholder meeting later this summer. A specific date and location have not yet been established, but will be reported shortly.

From the Company's inception, Cetek has focused on building a company with solid fundamentals, and with solid foundations in the state-of-the-art ceramic technology. Years of formulating, testing and proto-typing have taken us to where we are now -- producing and distributing Cetek's proprietary ceramic materials for an ever-growing client base.

Cetek Technologies was represented at the SEMICON West 2004 (http://wps2a.semi.org/wps/portal) technology trade show in San Francisco, California, which had very strong interest by attendees in the company's materials and capabilities. As a result, several new domestic and international sales prospects are being pursued.

We continue to view the CNT (carbon nanotube) area as a dynamic business segment for the future, one that may hold much promise, including electron emitters for FPD's (flat panel displays). In addition, "nano emissive display" (NED) technology, which enables a manufacturer to design large flat panel displays that exceed the image quality characteristics of plasma and LCD screens at a much lower cost, is extremely exciting in our niche of the industry, and could potentially be one of Cetek's applications in the future.

In closing, we thank all shareholders for their continued support in the company, and we will endeavor to keep shareholders informed of our efforts in developing Cetek into a significant player in its industry, as it strives to build shareholder value for our stockholders.

Respectfully submitted,
Fayiz Hilal
CEO and President


About Cetek Technologies, Inc.

Cetek Technologies' principal activity is to manufacture and market products based on applications of thin film and display technologies. Cetek produces very high grade quality industrial ceramics including alumina, cordierite, mullite, and zirconia for thermal shock, wear, electrical isolation and corrosial resistance applications. Substrates are commercially produced in 12 inch panels, as well as larger sizes. Products are sold to the electronics, welding, chemical, pulp & paper, nuclear power, aerospace and semiconductor industries. In addition, CNT technologies are currently being researched and co-developed for various applications, including fuel cells.

Company website: www.cetektechnologies.com

Safe Harbor Statement under the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform Act:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

Contact:
Stock Enterprises (Investor Relations)
James Stock, 866-242-2405


Source: Cetek Technologies, Inc.


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What are everyones thoughts lately for CTKH? It is showing oversold and looks to be bottoming. It has been on my radar for several weeks and looks like a good oppurtunity right now. This may be due for another rocket launch as its done before!!!!
Anyones comments?

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If you are patient and willing to invest in long term it's a good investment.
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As I stated, Stock market is down for almost every single pennystock. I'm not worry. CTKH will bounce soon or later. More positive news yet to come.
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Great DD about CTKH. Copy from pennyfever.

Author: Roundmot. this information has to be release at large...

Listen up! And pay attention. You have asked for it. And the boards
are buzzing with everything. So I am going to tell you what I know or
think I know about Cetek.

BUT let me tell you straight up, this will not change ANYTHING.
Tomorrow the pps will be exactly the same. The bashers will still be
talking about that reverse split. And they will still be attacking me
when I am through. IN FACT I predict that the personal attacks will
increase as a result of this post.

This is a mixture of what I know for a fact and what I have assumed
from things I know for a fact.

As you know, I was completely shut down by Fayiz when I went to NY.
When I left his office, I was in shock. I could not believe the man
had played me for such a fool. I had allowed him to reschedule my
appointment twice with the understanding that I was going to have a
personal two hour meeting with him during which I was going to get all
that I had asked for under Delaware law.

When I got to Cetek, Fayiz came into the conference room and
introduced himself and asked me about my flight, and where I was
staying etc. And then he introduced me to a gentleman named Bill
O'Hare. He told me that Bill would be the one answering my questions,
that he (Fayiz) has some things he had to do. And he walked out of
the room. Bill and I chatted for a few minutes and Fayiz returned
briefly with 4 11 x 17 sheets of paper and gave them to Bill.

Bill and I discussed the substrate samples that he had brought in with
him and he told me that I could have them. It was then that he let it
slip that Cetek was making 40" substrates. A few minutes later he
started showing me the paper Fayiz had left. They were are shareholder
list. But it didn't list all the shareholders, just the ones who had
requested certificates, everyone else was grouped under the Cede &
Company, which I found out later was the company that holds all street
named stocks for the DTC. We discussed the list and the fact that it
was basically useless to me. I then started going down my list of
information I had come for, and with every request, Bill told me that
he would have to get back with me on that. By the time I got to the
end I was pretty hot. I tried my best to act professional and to
remember that I was there representing everyone. So I told him that I
was very shocked that after bending over backwards to let Fayiz
schedule at day that was just perfect for him, that I would be treated
this way. He apologized and told me the he would ask Fayiz about
everything. And so I came away with nothing except a pathetic
shareholders list that wasn't even dated, and four ceramic substrate
samples.

Later that evening when I returned to my motel, there was a message
waiting for me that Bill had talked to Fayiz and he had said it was
okay. What was Okay? Ididn't have a clue, so I decided I would call
him first thing in the morning before my flight left. I was hoping
that he would actually meet with him and I could take a later flight home.

Later that night at about 11:00, as I was getting ready for bed, my
phone rang. It was a PennyFever board member who has asked not to
identified. He told me that he had been thinking about calling me for
about a month. And he said that he was calling me now because he had
some information that he thought might help me with Fayiz. He said
that he was part of a group of investors who had been approached by
Fayiz over a year ago about financing a prototype facility. (Read the
April 5 2003 PR and you will see that Fayiz mentioned it) He said that
they decided not to participate but he thought that I should know
about it.

The next morning I called Fayiz and after some unpleasantries, I
finally said, "Look Fayiz you think that I am your enemy but I am your
friend. I know a lot about your company that I have never told the
people on the boards because I know you would want me to keep them
secret until you are ready to put them out in a PR. For instance, I
know about the negotiations with the two Far East companies regarding
an acqusition, and I know the names or the two sales reps that you are
interviewing for the East and West Coast sales rep positions, and I
know about DisplayTek. But I haven't told anyone, because I am your
friend not your enemy." And when I said that, Fayiz immediately asked
me,"What do you know about DisplayTek?" And I said, "I know that you
acquired it, and that it is a solely owned subsidiary of Cetek and I
know that you sold 2 billion shares of Class A Common to acquire the
company, and that they are restricted for two years." And he laughed
and said, "Do you mind if I tell you something, you have got it all
wrong. We didn't acquire DisplayTek. We created it from the ground
up. And the only thing it cost us was the cost of filing the
paperwork. And we didn't sell the shares to buy it. Do you know why
we sold the shares? Because we needed the money for everything we are
doing."

We talked for another 20 minutes or so about everything and I ended
the call by asking him to look over the list of things I came for and
see if there was anything on the list that he could send me
immediately so that I would not come home completely empty handed. He
told me that he would look at it.

When I got off the plane in Phoeix, I got the phone call in which
Fayiz told me that he was sending me something that would make
everyone very happy. As it turned out, the only information i got was
the shareholder list. But a week or two later I did get a letter from
Bill O'Hare telling me that he would help me get our answers one by
one. I was very encouraged by that. And in the mean time, I was
recieving phone calls from Jim Stock every few days just to talk over
customer relations issues. I have developed a wonderful relationship
with him (if this post doesn't destroy it) i have been able to convey
all of our concerns to him at least 3 times a week since my return. I
have also developed a very warm relationship with Fayiz and have
called him about 6 times since my return and have sent him about 8
e-mails. He has read them all. And I even got one back from him that
said in part, "Dear Richard: I want to personally thank you for all
your good wishes and your prayers for me and for Cetek...Thanks again
for your warm thoughts and you are really a friend. Fayiz"

So when I have told this board that I have been reluctant to share
anything about their secrets because I now have a true friendship with
them I was not exaggerating. But I also have an obligation to you. In
the first place I am the moderator of the PnneyFever Investment Group.
We are a DD group. That is true even of the RB. And our primary
purpose is to share our DD. I have attempted to do that for the last
month by referring to old PRs that have spoken directly to the things
I know. But for some reason many of you could not understand that
approach. Therefore, I will not tell you what I know, in plain English.

First let me tell you what I know about DisplayTek. As soon as I
returned home I began looking for information about the company. I
checked with Delaware and they didn't have any company that looked
like it could fit. So I took a shot in the dark and checked with NY
Secretary of State's office. I found a company that was incorporated
on January 27, 2003, in Dutchess County, NY, as a Domestic Business
Corporation. Their address is 488 Freedom Plains Rd. Ste 103,
POUGHKEEPSIE, NY 12603. There is no registered agent shown. The fact
that it is in Poughkeepsie and was started after the date of the R/S
all fit. And the spelling of Tek instead of Tech was too coincidental
for me.

As I did some more checking, I found out from another source that it
originally was conceived over a year and a half ago, apparently even
before the r/s, but was put on hold until January of '03. Even the,
it appears that the company lay dormant until it was resurrected
toward the end of '03. As Fayiz stated in the April 5 ,2003,PR,
DisplayTek apparantly was created to produce the prototypes and
products for various customers. The idea was that when the customers
prototype was created they would then be allowed to buy stock in
DisplayTek so that they not only get the product but also own stock in
the manufacturer and the prototype. That is what Dixie_normous was
talking about the other day when he/she wrote: "If you want to know
whats going down, Forget Roundmouth, he's just a clown. Displays the
name and techs the game. You heard it here first, only yourself to
blame. Subsidiary rights, with other to sell. Make the product, but
dip twice at the well. Harness customers, get them hooked,
shareholders get little, but Hilals double booked."

We have heard that 55% of the stock will be held by CTKH, 5% by the
DisplayTek management, and 40% by the customers who buy into the
company. We also have heard that the CFO of the company is a man named
Lloyd Lews or Lewis.

When I went back and re-read the last PR, keeping in mind what I now
know about DisplayTek, I assumed that the company had given up on
developing their own CNT prototype, and that DisplayTek was dead. But
then I started thinking about the missing employees. And I started
wondering if they were working somewhere else, perhaps at the 488
Freedom Plains Rd. Ste 103, POUGHKEEPSIE, NY address. So I secretly
asked a board member to go by that address and take some pictures and
find out all they could. I was halfway expecting him to find 15 Cetek
employees constructing some kind of manufacturing facility. But
instead he found an Attorney's office. He reported back to me that
his mission had failed. But then he told me the name of the attorney:
O'Hare & O'Hare. We had the right DisplayTek and the address for the
Agent of Record. We still don't know where the actual facility is.
But I am convinced that somewhere in Poughkeepsie, NY, there is a
company called DisplayTek that is being outfitted as a full prototype
production facility. And if it is there, then eventually we will be
able to find it. Perhaps, now that you all know about it, we can find
it together. The statement in today's PR that "CNT technologies are
currently being researched and co-developed for various applications,
including fuel cells" re-kindled my belief that there is a prototype
facility somewhere that we have not found yet.

You can confirm the information I have given you about DisplayTek on
the NY Secretary or State's office. I don't know the exact address so
you will have to find it. I found it with no problem.

In addition to DisplayTek, I have heard rumors that CTKH is currently
talking with two manufacturing companies about a merger/acquisition by
CTKH to provide them with additional manufacturing capabilities. We
have reason to believe that Fayiz conducted successful talks with one
of the companies the week before he went to SemiCon. I personally
thougt that it was a South Korean company. I had heard a soft rumor
that there was one in the loop. But I could not get confirmation of it
or get a name. But then two weeks ago Fayiz showed up at the SemiCon
Conference with Valley Design Corporation out of Westford
Massachusetts, with a branch office in Santa Cruz, California. The
were "sharing" a booth. But the strange thing was that Cetek was not
a registered vendor at the show. How could they be sharing if the
weren't sharing? Obviously, there was more to it. A little research
showed that Valley Design was one of the companies that Fayiz was
talking about in the April 5 2003 , PR when he said, "the Company was
still supplying ceramic samples to certain grinding houses for
evaluation."

They liked what they saw and apparently replaced all other substrates
with ours. You should go to valleydesign dot com for all of the
information about what they can do. Also check out www dot ultra-thin
dot com/ for more information. While there, click on the site map and
read The Valley Story.

There are two important things to note. One is that they have a man
named G. Indras on staff who is considered to be one of the world's
leading consultants on polishing, grinding, and coating ceramic
substrates. And the other thing to note is that the old couple who
started the company are apparently wanting to retire.

Even with all to that information, it never occurred to any one that
there was anything really going on until Queeens_14 posted that Fayiz
was going to be meeting with someone last Wednesday. A few days later
I learned from a board member that Fayiz did have that meeting. And
it was in Boston. Westford is West Northwest of Boston, and could
easily have been his actual destination.

If Fayiz did in fact go to Valley Design Corporation last week to sign
the paperwork to finalize the acquisition, why didn't He mention it in
today's PR? I suggest that there can only be one explanation; they
didn't finish all of the paperwork yet. Perhaps they only signed a
letter or intent to get the process started, perhaps they signed half
of the paperwork but had to work on the rest. I don't know. But I do
believe with all my heart that the acquistition is real. And I fully
expect even Fayiz to put out a full disclosure PR the very day that
the acquisition is finalized, just exactly like he did when they
acquired Multilythics.

If they do acquire Valley Design Corporation, that would solve many of
the production problems. It would give Cetek a manufacturing center
on both the East and West Coasts. And interestingly, the two sales
people they are interviewing are rumored to be from Massachusetts and
California. No great surprise.

But if I am right, this will not be the last acquisition. They still
need the Far East assembly line to make all of this work perfectly.
So I personally expect to begin hearing rumors about that very soon.
If they are able to do that, then IMO, everything will fall into place.

As I mentioned above, the company is also talking with two sales
representatives, Brad Novak in Orange County California and a woman in
Mass. Neither one has been hired. They are both big long term
shareholders with CTKH and have really done a lot of homework to learn
the industry.

There are also rumors that a major newspaper in the NY area is
considering doing a article about CTKH. That should bring them to
the attention of Wall Street. And if it is after the mergers then it
could really be a significant article. Also one of our board members
works for one of the big three TV news broadcasters. And he is trying
to talk them into doing a piece on CTKH if things pop.

Then of course you have heard the rumors that they are preparing to
file for reentry to the OTCBB. The rumors are that they are trying to
get the Form 10 submitted by the end of summer with the hopes of
being listed by Christmas. The Christmas date is looking very
doubtful, but the filing by late September could still prove to be
true. And as I have pointed out before, once the Form 10 has been
filed we should be ableto download it from the SEC site. And then we
will know every little detail about Cetek. And, if one of the mergers
is with a Nasdaq listed company then we will instantly end up on the
big boards. Wouldn't that be nice?

And now this week we have had the mystery guest on Monday. And I have
heard unconfirmed rumors that he will be back for seconds soon. I
thought that it was going to be this week and obviously I was wrong.
But I have no reason to doubt that the rumors are true. Of course we
will have to wait and see.

There may be more that I am forgetting at this time because of the
late hour. If I rememeber anything else I will post it later.

Now you know why I was so positive when I returned from NY. I told
Jim Stock and Fayiz that I would hold off on telling the boards until
the information was made public by someone else. I have kept my word.
In fact, I remained silent even after most of it was released, because
I could see that most of you did not notice the references. Well, it
is out now. And since my purpose for being here is to present
accurate DD, I am posting the whole story to clear up any confusion by
the many different reports.

As you know, Fayiz ran me through the emotioal ringer for weeks prior
to my trip. I went from trusting, to doubting, to fearing, to
doubting, to trusting, to almost liking, to pitying the man. Since my
trip I haver learned to totally trust him to do what he says he will
do. He will fulfill his plan if it can be done. Of that, It have no
doubt. But my gut tells me that there are parts of his personality
that cannot be figured out. I want to believe that my first instincts
were correct, and that he can be trusted with my life savings. So I
have decided to take a chance and put my last bit of money into his
hands. If I am correct then my dreams will come true, If I am wrong
then the amount of money is so small it wouldn't have helped me for
more than a month of two anyway.

I do not have a clue who the real Fayiz is. We may have to take every
negative thing I said about Fayiz in my previous e-mails and posts
with a grain of salt. I cannot read him accurately from one minute to
the next. Just about the time I was sure that he was a complete
phony, he does things that forced me to see him in a different light.

In the meantime I will attempt to keep the bridge intact and in fact
will try to strengthen it. Although I suspect that this post will
destroy my relationship with Jim Stock and Fayiz. I hope not. But I
feel that I have more of an obligation to all of you than I do to them.

Before today's PR, I let him know that we know his secrets and it is
therefore of no use to keep these things quiet. I recommended that he
tell the world about the 40" substrates. Several of the shareholders
who had done the original research that uncovered much of this info
made it known that they intended to tell all on August 1 if Fayiz had
not done so by then, and as you saw today, they kept their word. I
let Fayiz know about their determination to do so, and i had hopes
that he would take the high road and include much of this in this PR,
but it was not to be.

From the beginning, my concern has been that if we released this
information to the boards, it would be doubted, torn apart by the
bashers, and perhaps even denied by JS and Fayiz because they are not
ready of it to be released. In that case, I am convinced that the net
affect on the pps will be negative. And the sad part it that, later
when they do finally publish the info, it will be looked at as old
news and will not have the affect on the pps then that it would have
had if Fayiz had been the first one to tell the world. Only time will
tell. I hope that I am wrong.

Now you know everything that I know that comes to mind.

I have verified everything contained here through sources that I
trust. But I cannot guarantee that the information is true or
accurate. I am satisfied that it is. you must decide for yourself.


Richard


DISCLAIMER: I am not an investment expert or advisor. Nor am I an
employee or agent of any of the companies I discuss on this board.
Therefore, everything contained in my posts is my own personal
opinion, and is not necessarily fact, or the opinion of the companies
I have discussed or their management. While, to the best of my
knowledge all information contained herein is true and correct, there
is always a chance that I am wrong. Therefore, do your own research.
A good rule of thumb is that if you have not received the information
from a recognized investment expert or advisor, or directly from a
company, its management or other official representatives, do not base
your investment decisions upon it. - Richard, aka roundmot.


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ForestGump-Interesting post. This is near the price it was at before its huge run last time. I have some and will keep this on the radar. Thanks -Debi
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Assumption based on:

DEBT FREE(?)

A/S 9 000 000 000
O/S 3 875 000 000
Restricted 2 275 000 000 (estimation)
Float 1 600 000 000 (estimation)

So let also assume:

Revenue 20 000 000 (maximum estimation)
O/S 3 875 000 000
R/OS 0,0052
x10R 10
Target price 0,0516

The PPS is very undervalued. Buy back still on progress (I presume). Company with good future.
Negative side: Lack of information.


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