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ALL DD LINKS-- PLEASE CONTINUE TO POST. MY Courteousy to all share holders..
http://www.nanoelectronicsplanet.com/nanochannels/products/article/0,4028,10460_1481]341,00.html
SEC LINK-- http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000824107&owner=include
INTERESTING COMPARISON BETWEEN CTKH.pk, and IVOC.ob,,,,, http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1938378
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA252243&rid=0&rme=0&cfd
5 YEAR CHART FOR CETEK TECHNOLOGIES http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=5y&charttype=line&splits=off&movingaverage=none&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=off&index=&drilldow n]
Cetek Shareholder Quarterly update, and Company address.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0EIN/2003_April_5/99668450/p1/article.jhtml
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/031027/275682_1.html
http://www.atp.nist.gov/atp/repcong/appendxe.htm]
http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/ArticleInformation/features/BNP__Features__Item/0,2710,78922,00.html
http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/CIGiants/GiantsItem/0,2754,60551,00.html
http://www.fuelcellstore.com/cgi-bin/fuelweb/view=subcat/cat=3/subcat=9
http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/CIGiants/GiantsIndex/1,2752,9,00.html]
http://www.semipark.co.kr/upload1/MCM%20Highlights.pdf
http://www.baverstam.com/Newsletter/2003_Q1.pdf
http://www.cientifica.info/html/TNT/tnt_weekly/archive_2002/week_41.htm]
http://www.cientifica.info/html/TNT/tnt_weekly/archive_2002/week_41.htm
http://engineering.alfred.edu/cems/du/facu/facu_earl2.html
http://http://www.processregister.com/Thermal%20Sprayed%20Coatings:%20Metals%20and%20Ceramics/Suppliers/pid1557.htm
http://www.gtforum.com/agenda/index.asp?agenda_id=8&mode=1
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20020207S0003
http://www.forbes.com/2003/12/09/1209screenspinnacor_ii.html?partner=yahoo&referrer
http://nanotechweb.org/articles/news/1/10/7/1
http://www.hedgehog.com/bbs/pennystockmessages/1]
http://www.smalltimes.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=4796
http://www.nanotech-now.com/2002-october-news.htm
http://nanotech-now.com/nanotube-buckyball-sites.htm
2 Year Chart http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CTKH.PK&t=2y]http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CTKH.PK&t=2y
Technical Analysis http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=CTKH.PK&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=m50,m200&a=&c]
This chart shows the stock breaking above the 200 DAY MA
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=CTKH.PK&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=m50,m200&a=&c
Cetek Corporate Snapshot, Including Intraday TRADES
http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet?u=14982&c=6303547673871694512&a=n&symbol=CTKH&date=2&price1=&price2=&tradeSize1=&tradeSize2=&pageSize=40 0&seqNo=353
http://host.businessweek.com/businessweek/Corporate_Snapshot.html?Symbol=ctkh
http://stockcharts.com/gallery?ctkh
Chart for CTKH http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1956529
Some more links for those of us who want to learn how to read candle stick charts...again from the the candlestick board http://www.realitytrading.com/glossary.asp
http://www.candlestickshop.com/glossary/#Evening
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/02/121702.asp
http://www.trade10.com/candlesticks.html
http://www.litwick.com/glossary.html
http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=39
Site explaining the Hammer that CTKH left today and what it means. Courtesy of the Candlestick board on IHUB. http://www.litwick.com/indicators/1154.html
Raging Bull Site for CTKH.pk http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CTKH&startfrom=9257]
Thompson I Watch http://iw.thomsonfn.com/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=ctkh&symbol=ctkh
http://quotes.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CTKH]
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031203-7.html
http://www.nano.gov/
http://www.bizreport.com/article.php?art_id=5663
http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2003/Dec/04-97469.htmlPresident
Bush signed a bill Wednesday to invest $3.7 billion for work in nanotechnology,
the science of building electronic circuits and devices from single atoms and molecules. http://nanoxchange.com/NewsGovernment.asp?ID=113
http://www.nanobusiness.org/
http://www.nanodynamics.biz/default.asp
MY NANOTECHNOLOGY LIST---ALL NANO STOCKS or STOCKS INVOLVED WITH NANOTECHNOLOGY..
Copy and paste into quote box on YAHOO FINANCE. CREATE and ADD TO PORTFOLIO, FOR FULL LIST..
IBM HIT NVEC UTEK INTC DD VECO FLML AMAT INTC HPQ AMEV MNT FEIC NANO ACO FEIC ENDP SKYE IFX STM mtf glw PCOP SMMX TINY MVIS BIOI NIPNY NANX LARS JMAR TGAL BDSI JADE ALTI WEDX JMAR AGRA LU IFX NGEN EMRG AVX.V SOTK.OB EMFP.OB USGA.OB NNPP.OB MFIC.OB ADTK.OB ENEI.OB PFCE.OB ENVA.OB NNBP.PK MSGL.OB MLRI.OB CTKH.PK OBDCF.PK SPHRF.PK ADSX NPCT.OB MMTIF.OB AVXSF.PK FBSM.PK NTEU.PK AVX.V
NANOTECHNOLOGY --
2004 Nanotechnology Conference & Trade Show http://www.nanotech2004.com/
http://www.zyvex.com/nano/
http://www.nanotechnologyinvesting.us/
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/nanotechnology/7842/7842nanotechnology.html
http://www.nanoindustries.com/
http://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/www/chapter2_84.html
http://www.eedesign.com/pressreleases/bizwire/113906
http://news.nanoapex.com/modules.php?name=Mems
Interesting RB Messages
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CTKH&read=13220
Anything I state on this website, is solely my opinion and my opinion only, unless linked below. I share this information with all investors who visit this site, and in entering this site or posting messages on this board, I am relieved from any legal responsibilities that take place on this board.
All messages, are opinions of members who have joined this group, and should not be solely used in making investment decisions.
Understand CTKH.pk CETEK Technologies, trading on the pink sheets is a very high risk investment, and is not recommended for those who do not have extra cash that they are able to lose.
Value of this investment may appreciate dramatically, during the next few months to year or so, but it may also lose its value all together, just like all pink sheets or OTC stocks.
RISK VS REWARD is very high. THE REWARD for this risk has a huge potential, but is not guaranteed.
With this all being said, everyone is responsible for their own investment decisions, and I will not be responsible for any decision an investor makes.
Thank You.
I hope you all enjoy the Information I will be providing this board, and i look forward to hearing from each and everyone of you..
GOOD LUCK TO ALL..
[This message has been edited by Cetek-Technology-NANOTECH (edited December 18, 2003).]
Also, look for this company to become a fully reporting company and to get listed on the otcbb very soon. They are temporarily not reporting, because they need to focus on their business strategy, and management has received alot of interest in their products.
I am happy to say, this is one of the best penny stocks I have ever seen. It amazes me, how cheap it is, with all the potential it brings to its shareholders.
Thank you. Once again.
LAST SALE .0034 THURSDAY CLOSE.
BID .0033 X ASK .0034.
VOLUME is also increasing once again.
I believe it was somewhere close to 310 Million shares traded for the day.
i own this stock and i dont like u pumping it
PRICE UPDATE.....
This LINK is being set up to educate, those who are interested in cetek technologies, and to help them learn more about their investment, before they invest. This way they can feel comfortable about making a major decision.
Market should rally, bringing us much higher..
A big plus. We will be well over the 10,150 MARK......
MONDAY WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT DAY for the markets, as you all now are aware, saddam has been taken into custody.
This is an official address to the nation, and a huge amount of uncertainty has now been removed from our markets.
GREAT week for all.
This is a great site to discuss and learn about many different stocks.We all know about CTKH and appreciate you making us aware of how it's going but try your best not to turn this site into your favorite pump site.
TRSTURGUT-18
You can pump and try to make gains on someone elses misfortunes... I do not believe this stock now under CTKH vice CTKT
as it once traded is going any place. If their technology was so hot then it would not take 2yrs+ to get people interested.
Motorola or some other company could have
come in at any time to pick up the company... Likewise, with so many companies
trying to move to the larger screen displays if CTKH/CTKT or whatever it has traded under in the past had such an innovative approach to their ceramics
folks would be bustin down their doors.
They write...
"Flat Panel Displays: Securing adequate funding for this project is one of Cetek's prime priorities. Though we have many interested parties that are financially capable and understand this program, we have not received any major funding yet. Some of our efforts may be close to bearing fruits, but I caution shareholders not to over anticipate. I will report to you immediately of any change in this situation. Notwithstanding the delay in financing, several pieces of equipment, as well as certain jigs and fixtures, are being built. "
This has been the same tune for the past two+ years.
I'm sure someone is making money off this
stock just not the common shareholders.
Sorry, to be so down but a 97% loss is
not something taken lightly and I believe
anyone who gets into this stock shouldl go in eyes wide open (not just the hype from
pump and dump.)
shad
use the link for there current stats.
http://quotes.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CTKH
out of your 97% down it's currently at 7% down
get your fact's straight the charts show something is up you stupid basher.
I still hold the shares. (Or whats
left that is after the 1:150 reversal
on 23 Dec 2002 and the subsequent fall
in price.)
As far as basher. I call 'em like I see
'em. Not trying to bash but see nothing
in the company that would suggest that they
are doing "anything" different.
I have been tracking this stock for some
18 months.
I truly disagree with the assumption made
that this stock will ever reach $1-$2.
(I hope I am wrong (so I can recover
my money))
Also believe you should look at all of their
information. I see nothing that suggests
that the company is moving up in the world.
I think you will see common themes on all
information. The new releases aren't much
different from those of a year ago.
(This is just my humble opinion. I hope I
am wrong. Time will tell. I have found
this board very useful to me... to help in
my understanding of trading and help to
find good picks. I'm just trying to give
back. As far as the stock ready to move
up... I'm sure it will with a few press
releases and a few folks hitting all the
boards pumping the stock. I'm sure someone
will make money.)
shad
chart looks as good as any sorry bro but your wrong on this nugget. there is news that will be released. professional buying proves the point while retail investors don't believe the gains can continue and are selling. this stock goes up!
look at the pro-go chart linked above
This study is only for daily charts and can be used to highlight divergences between the Professional Advance/Decline (red line) and the price. The common interpretation of this study is if the Professional line (red) goes below the Public line (green) it is a sell signal and if the Professional line (red) goes above the Public line (green) it is a buy signal.
you all need to learn how to play the game!!!! this is a buy even at .0040
I appreciate it, and look forward to reading further posts.
Tomorrow the market should be up HUGE..
Dow Futures up big also.
HAS THE BULL MARKET BEGAN. OR IS THIS A BULL RUN in a BEAR MARKET?????
I bet alot of you are asking yourselves, HAS THE BULL MARKET BEGUN.
MY OPINION:
YES the bullmarket has JUST begun, and DECEMBER 15th thru JANUARY 1st the MARKET should run quite a bit, including the TRADITIONAL SANTA CLAUSE RALLY.
Mutual Fund and HEDGE FUNDs are changing up their portfolios and are looking for some new additions for their portfolios. Also the majority of investors sold their losers and are writing off their losses. Some of these investors are now looking for fresh new opportunities.
NANOTECHNOLOGY = is the HOTTEST SECTOR to be in right now. WHY. To start, people see this as the future, and a huge growth potential for investors.
Bush just recently signed a 3 trillion dollar bill to fund nanotechnology. With the government trying to keep up and ahead of foreign countries who are also entering into nanotechnology, their is a race. Countries with the best technology tend to be world leaders, and THE UNITED STATES, STRIVES to stay in 1st place.
JAPAN, CHINA, and other countries in ASIA and Europe have rapidly deployed research and development firms into nanotechnology and this will help to make companies involved with the new technology to grow significantly over the next decade.
Their are many different applications nano can be used for, and currently scientists are working with companies to try and understand exactly how to connect different applications.
To: ###########@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:05 AM
Subject: Weekend Update
*** 'S.A. NEWSLETTER' WEEKEND UPDATE ***
STOCK IN PROFILE:
CETEK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
(CTKH.PK) - PRICE .0038
SINCE WE FIRST PROFILED THIS COMPANY A WEEK AGO, THE SHARE PRICE HAS APPRECIATED NICELY BY FILLING ALL THE GAPS ALONG THE WAY.
THAT WOULD INDICATE STRONG ACCUMULATION IS OCCURRING AND FOR VERY GOOD REASON:
THERE IS STRONG SPECULATION THAT CETEK MAY BE IN LINE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY WHICH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH MADE AVAILABLE WHEN HE RECENTLY SIGNED THE NANOTECH BILL.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20020207S0003
THIS GRANT MONEY WOULD SECURE LEGITIMACY TO CETEK'S SUPERB TECHNOLOGY WHICH IS ALREADY YEAR'S AHEAD OF IT'S COMPETITION.
ALSO, MONTHS BACK, CETEK FORMED A LICENSING PACT WITH MOTOROLA (MOT-NYSE) FOR FLAT PANEL DISPLAY PRODUCTION. THE COST OF PRODUCING THIS FLAT-PANEL DISPLAY IS 33% CHEAPER AND USES 1/10TH THE POWER!
THE MARKET FOR FLAT-PANEL DISPLAYS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENTS, NOT ONLY OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY MARKET, WHICH IS WORTH $51 BILLION, BUT THE ENTIRE ELECTRONIC INDUSTRY!!
http://www.forbes.com/2003/12/09/1209screenspinnacor_ii.html?partner=yahoo&refer rer=
SINCE WE FIRST MENTIONED THAT THERE COULD BE FURTHER DEALS NEARING, THERE IS NOW STRONG SPECULATION THAT CETEK COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A PENDING PARTNERSHIP WITH SAMSUNG UTILIZING IT'S PLASMA MANUFACTURING CAPABILITIES.
GIVEN THESE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, WE PLAN TO UPGRADE OUR NEAR-TERM PRICE TARGET TO .03 CENTS FROM OUR ORIGINAL TARGET OF .01 CENT.
PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS PRICE TARGET IS BASED SOLELY ON OUR SPECULATIVE OPINION!
AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS IS AN EXTREMELY RISKY PLAY AND NOT FOR THE AVERAGE INVESTOR - WE ALMOST NEVER "PLAY" WITH THIS TYPE OF "STUFF" - BUT IN OUR OPINION THIS MAY TURN OUT TO BE THE "STOCK OF THE 2004"
OTHER STOCKS THAT WE LIKE:
TRPH, NANO, FHRX, DHB, TWAV
NOTE: We have not been paid by any of the mentioned investments within the message. We may buy, sell and/or hold at our own discretion.
Market DOW Up 62
Nasdaq up 17 pts
Already half hour into trading session.
VOLUME 94.6 Million in first hour. PRICE .0038 UNCHANGED.....
Looks like some profit taking, but moved back down to unchanged + or - a little on low volume. UPTREND IN TACT......As it appears Now.
offshore
wingnut
quote:
Originally posted by Cetek-Technology-NANOTECH:
NEW LINK-- FROM RB MESSAGE BOARD< INTERESTING COMPARISON BETWEEN CTKH.pk, and IVOC.ob,,,,,
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1938378
chart look strong and in the end that is what matters. all we need is a heads up from the company pr people pr!!!!!
and have you seen the pro-go indicator on barcharts.com never seen seperation like that. so i would say long would be my stance and if the news is right .20 from a 2 year historical chart could be a wonderful payout.
Well here is one more link for you all..
http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/index.asp?
layout=article&articleid=CA252243&rid=0&rme=0&cfd
Stocks don't continually rise without adjustments.
Im satisfied with todays trading, was unexpected, but overall it will benefit us as long shareholders. Sometimes, I want to just forget about my shares, but its so damn exciting sometimes, to know all the things that Can happen.
THAT is POTENTIAL, if your wondering what im talking about.
WELL, the market was down today, a very unexpected trading day, the futures were up over 130 pts sunday night.
If i had known, I would have shorted the futures, what a day though.
Tomorrow should bring a green day.
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The Hajinator
it shows they are working on the furnaces. and are not a scam company.
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Talked to Mr. Hilal shortly before 4 p.m. yesterday . . .
recorded the conversation so I could transcribe his answers.
For all of the conspiracy buffs that will twist every word, I tried to think of a way that you can hear the recording, short of giving away my phone number (fat chance, lololol)but couldn't come up with anything.
Of course, they would then deny that it is actually Hilal speaking because of course, I am part of the MOT, MMs, CTKH, Sadam, Bush, Trilateral Commission conspiracy trying to take over NASDAQ's OTCBB and bankrupt all penny stock investors throughout the entire world so that I can be richer than Bill Gates AND Warren Buffet combined. But I can always try.
I found Mr Hilal to be straightforward with his answers for the most part. He did not hesitate. He was moderately uncomfortable with some of my questions but did not give me the impression he was wanting the conversation to end before I got the answers.
I must agree with saramx98 that, for me, his answers to my questions have triggered more questions than they answered. I'm still holding 3.2 million shares but I am scepticle about Halil's honesty. INHO this is a great short term money maker for everyone because of the momo, and it may turn into a good long term position in the distant future. But you will have to ride through a lot of storms, deceptions, betrayals, and dilution to get there.
Our converstion was as follows.(Everything in quotes is verbatim):
Q:What is the significance of the RegDex filing on 10/14/2003?
A: (1 st part of his answer was garbled but included a statement that the form was to pave the way for an increase in the number of authorized shares) "That's all what we did.We cannot do that without permission from the SEC. So I filed the paperwork for that and supporting documents, and so on, okay? And that's all what we did, okay? In anticipation of future goals where we might need more stock. And that's what we did it for."
Q: Do you have an anticipated amount? I mean are you trying to reach a certain level?
A: "No, I'm not trying to reach nothing, I just want to have the capability or the immediate availability in case I make a deal with somebody."
Q: What is the status of any agreement that you might have MOT? Do you have that in force still?
A: "We have reached an agreement with them."
Q: What was it, a gentlemen's ageeement of something?
A: "No. No. No.No. A Written agreement. And then later on, because again it takes so long to be, what is the word, to be finalized, okay? And then later on certain articles of it had to be changed, okay? So now we are being in negotiations to change those articles in there, yes."
Q: And is it an agreement to share research & developement or to buy products from them or for them to buy products from you? How does it work?
A: "They license us to use a certaintype of technology."
Q:From their technology?
A: "Yes sir."
Q:Oh I see. So it is really going to benefit you in your research and development as you can add their technology to yours.
A: "Correct, and whatever products come out of that, they will be will to, not willing, but they will negotiate about purchasing them."
Q: Oh, so I see. If you actually develope something from your Research and Development, then they would be the outlet for you to sell the products.
A: "That is correct."
Q:So you would be guaranteeing that your Research & Development will not be a waste of time.
A: "Yeah."
Q: I've heard a lot of talk about a stock buy back. Is there any effort being made to do that right now?
A: "We are doing this right now."
Q: You are? Do you have any idea of the portion of stock that you are trying to . . .
A: "I will not divulge that information. That was approved by the Board of Directors, and, uh, I think last December. And they decided to buy 500 million shares or something like that."
Q: Can you give me any idea what the float is right now?
A: "No, I don't know that sir."
Q: You don't know that, or the outstanding shares.
A: "I don't know that."
Q: What about your sales? I saw at one point that they were 230% increase at one point. Was that above last year. How are you doing this year?
A: "That is what we are doing. We're doing about 300% obove last year. But the most important part is that, uh, is that we were losing money until this quarter. But this quarter, is the first quarter we have been able to make a buck."
Q: I didn't hear you.
A: "We were losing money all along, and this quarter is the first quarter we are making a buck."
Q: What are your financing efforts? How are they coming along?
A: "Well, we are now negotiating with some people.And that is all I can tell you."
The battery on my recorder die at this point of the conversation. Howver, I asked him:
What amount of money are you trying to raise?
A: He said enough for R & D and daily overhead.
Why have you opted out of the requirment to file quarterly and annual reports with the SEC?
A: Because it costs between $60-75 thousand dollars to do so. Sometimes as much as $100,000
Why has it taken you over 4 years to get your web site online?
A: It wasn't a high priority item, but he realizes that it is becoming more important, would give him a good outlet to improve Investor relations. He said that he has a friend that has started working on that for the company.
Do you have any plans to do a reverse split?
A: No, he said he did that once out of necessity. He said he didn't like it but it was necessary at the time. But they are not going to do another reverse split.
Who is your competition?
A: We don't have any.
He then told me that they are now working on a 16 X16 inch substrate.
He also expressed the opinion that his quarterly reports were answering or should be answering most of our questions. I told him that I had read them and found that they didn't go far enough in providing information.
It was at that point that his office phone rang and we hung up with the understanding that I was welcome to call back another time if I had any more questions.
If and when I call back I would also like to know the answers to the following questions:
Where are you with your R&D in relationship to your competition?
What is the primary source of your companies income at the present time?
Why have you not made any attempt to formally answer any of the invesor's questions?
Why don't you get an Investors' Relations contact who can answer our questions?
Why are you holding your S/H meetings in Las Vegas instead of on the East Coast?
When is the next S/H meeting.
And post that on this board,.
That would be great if you guys could.. THANK YOU..
Regards
Ed
offshore
I dont know why this went lower today, but i have a feeling they ran it down on pure manipulation schemes. I also think the MM's were trading among themselves to get the price lower, and scare out the weak. I will not sell my position, no matter how low it goes. I can afford to take a loss.
I recommend to invest, only what you can afford to lose, as this is a risky play. But i will continue to buy, because I like what I see.
Price movements dont make a difference, when you are long. The future is the only thing im concerned about, and right now it is bright..
GOOD LUCK TO ALL SHAREHOLDERS, Be wise in making your decisions.
It is possible for some profit taking, but if that was the case, should definately be finished.
Late day session did look like it was gaining strength. It retested the support at .002. And we passed with flying colors. I really believed we made a higher support at .0025 or .003 but they failed..
A double bottom at .002 is a very good move for us though.. Short term fluctuations should become less volatile. A gradual run up, is what im expecting.
We shall find out what is going on behind the scenes soon.
GOOD LUCK once again.
wingnut
Gord
You nailed that one on the head..
KEEP making the calls. I will look forward to hearing from you...
HORRIBLE for me...
I have alot of shares, but I can not have enough..
I want some big holders to come along, so they can reduce the float. I have been speaking to a couple who are researching the company right now..
And -- where do i see CETEK in 3-4 months.
I personally feel this stock will be trading between .05 and .10 cents at least.
I still do not understand why this is so cheap.
i think it is hard to get a stock up initially, but we are doing just that, and when we are higher, the stock should start to have larger moves.
It is very hard to say, but In my opinion, I think people will become rich off this stock, LONG TERM...........
They have stated there will be no reverse split, and that will be a big part of it.
You will have large shareholders, from the ground level, to the top level..
I like the fact the float will be in a handful of investors hands, and by then , only those who have strong hands will still be holding..
ALL MY OPINION...
GOOD LUCK...
Thursday could be a nice move up for the Cetek longs.
tomrrow i bet we even out the week with last weeks high.
remember think of stocks in weeks not minutes. lol
THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE PARTICIPATING IN EXCHANGING INFORMATION FOR FUTURE INVESTORS TO USE.
quote:
Originally posted by Sigma_1966:
Man how low do you think we'll go ?Gord
It seems to me that when we close at the days high, the next day will be a gap up..
THURSDAY shall be a learning experience. We will see how this turns out.
GOOD LUCK..
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The Hajinator
nut
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
well no offense but it looks like it has to go down to the.001 area to fill the gap that it has from the close on 12/05/2003 (Friday) and the open on (Monday) the 12/08/2003.Just my thoughts and when it does then I will load up.
[This message has been edited by wingnut (edited December 17, 2003).]
Some more links for those of us who want to learn how to read candle stick charts...again from the the candlestick board
http://www.realitytrading.com/glossary.asp http://www.chartpatterns.com/ http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/02/121702.asp http://www.trade10.com/candlesticks.html http://www.litwick.com/glossary.html http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=39 http://www.candlestickshop.com/glossary/#Evening
cheers
nut
Newbie question
Is that a bad sign ?
quote:
Originally posted by wingnut:
Site explaining the Hammer that CTKH left today and what it means. Courtesy of the Candlestick board on IHUB.
http://www.litwick.com/indicators/1154.html
Some more links for those of us who want to learn how to read candle stick charts...again from the the candlestick boardhttp://www.realitytrading.com/glossary.asp http://www.chartpatterns.com/ http://www.investopedia.com/articles/technical/02/121702.asp http://www.trade10.com/candlesticks.html http://www.litwick.com/glossary.html http://www.equis.com/Education/TAAZ/?page=39 http://www.candlestickshop.com/glossary/#Evening
cheers
nut
if it goes down even more maybe it is a pump n dump.
love the game don't you
wingnut
quote:
Originally posted by Sigma_1966:
WingnutNewbie question
Is that a bad sign ?
Best Wishes,
Anna
LOOKS VERY NICE..
I made a good call last night, and yesterday.
We should make a new high for the stock this week.
Looks for upward mommentum to possibly be building from here.
Current price .003- .0033
GOOD LUCK TO ALL.. LETS keep eachother informed. I offer free advice, and information to shareholders interested, and hope you guys will all work together...
i'm one of the long's on this stock holding till i see the price above pghi!!!!! with all of my 3mil shares in hand!!!!!
Unfortunately I am new at the game. I am confident in the comany and its product. I know that any deals signed with Motorola or Samsung will have us all singing.
Gord
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
If today and friday can close around .0040 hopefully it means we will see news very soon.if it goes down even more maybe it is a pump n dump.
love the game don't you
I am in negotiations with some large investors, and they are looking into this company right now.
Im trying to supply them with as much information as possible, because you would have to be a moron, do buy something without researching it.
Well, its looking positive, I am so convinced this is the best micro penny stock out their.
It does not look like a pump in dump, but beware of MM's scare tactics, as they have been using before moving the stock higher.
They need your shares, and want to buy in cheap, then they run the stock higher.
So hold your shares tight, good things seem to be in the making.
I wish everyone the best, and hopefully this will be the christmas gift I have been waiting for.
my thinking on this position is strong enough to stand a 60% whipsaw. my acount went from 12grand to 6grand in three day's and bounced back to 9grand today. on my ctkh position. gotta love the game
The potential is huge, I dont know if they will succeed, but all fingers are pointed in the right direction.
Looks like a high risk, HIGH REWARD..
You need to make sure your emotions do not get the best of you.
ALWAYS REMEMBER Its only paper, until you sell.
Also remember, if you believe in something, why let it go..
I believe, and I am here .... I should be here well into 2004 and we will see from there.
TO help Estimate...
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/031027/275682_1.html
http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/CIGiants/GiantsItem/0,2754,60551,00.html
Very hard, but this is a little piece.
I think the lower volume, has to do with the fact that the company is buying back shares, and the reduction in outstanding shares is now becoming more noticeable.
LESS outstanding shares, BIG BIG POSITIVE..
The volume has been coming down quite a bit..
Also all those holding millions of shares from lower prices should now be sold out, and either bought back in at higher prices, or moved on.
I believe this stock will go up on Friday Also.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL...
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
If today and friday can close around .0040 hopefully it means we will see news very soon.if it goes down even more maybe it is a pump n dump.
love the game don't you
Very lucky on his part.
It was a quick dip, so many of the weak bailed out, making this stock stronger.
WHAT DOES THIS COMPANY DO?
What kind of technology are they in?
What exactly does their product offer, that would make it so attractive to the buyer???
Why is this stock so cheap and on the pink sheets?
To start with, this is a startup company, who is researching and applying a technology they have developed.
They are limited on cash, and are on the pinksheets, until they have more cash to start paying for filing fees.
The company is moving forward in their operations, and is in negotiations to receiving further funding, to bring this company into a growth market and position.
The company--- YES A HIGH RISK-- BUT HIGH REWARD OPPORTUNITY....
BUT THE RISK IS WELL WORTH IT, in my opinion. I RECCOMMEND YOU ALL RESEARCH YOUR INVESTMENTS before you buy.
BUT HERE IS WHERE I WANT YOU ALL TO START..
Here is the link.
PRICE last stated at .0031
BID is now .003 X ASK .0031
I believe there will be a gap up on FRIDAY.
http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet
and .0030 = big smiles when i look in my ameritrade account!!!!
can't wait for easter!!!! a ctkh golden egg!!
to all newbie penny players it can happen have faith and look for the next runner from .0002. beacuse i turned 1000 in to 10000 in three weeks and growing. learn charts and risk = reward. allways
I predict a positive day.
ANY LINKS, anyone has to offer, are very welcomed, and I look forward to hearing from each and everyone of you.
You guys are a good group, lets find some new information on cetek.
POST as you find. THANK YOU.
GOING HIGHER. VERY GOOD SIGN, MOVING AVERAGES traveling upwards very nicely.
Take a 1 week chart.
use the interval in minutes.
take a 1O day MA, 50 DAY MA , and 200 Day MA and click on 1 week chart, wit volume and price movement.
You will see the 50 day staying above the 200 day.
VERY BULLISH..
quote:
Originally posted by Cetek-Technology-NANOTECH:
We are up .0004 to .0034.GOING HIGHER. VERY GOOD SIGN, MOVING AVERAGES traveling upwards very nicely.
Take a 1 week chart.
use the interval in minutes.take a 1O day MA, 50 DAY MA , and 200 Day MA and click on 1 week chart, wit volume and price movement.
You will see the 50 day staying above the 200 day.
VERY BULLISH..
Gentlemen, Is the ctkh Ragingbull website down, haven;t been able to access all morning!
Sometimes it is a little slow though.
also i like how ctkh only releases pr's about there quarterly reports and major happenings. so they are staying professional and not showing the waste other company's spend on pr junk. - pump
also if it wasn't for there r/s last december with the dark cloud that still lingers over the pps. we would and should be allot higher .05 .07 (6 months)
I dont want a company that pumps its stock up.
IT should go up on its own merrits, and I believe they will issue something in the beginning or middle half of January.
A shareholder update, should be in the works for progress in the 4th quarter, and possible additional funding to start getting their production facilities up and running.
Stay tuned, and all keep in touch, for new upcoming events.
Motorola Labs Advances in Carbon Nanotechnology
(September 2003 Issue, Nikkei Electronics Asia)
Motorola Labs, the applied research arm of Motorola Inc, has announced progress with its carbon nanotechnology research. It is currently doing research to integrate these nanotech advances into key applications. Dubbed "nano emissive display" (NED), the technology enables manufacturers to exceed the image quality characteristics of plasma and LCD screens at a lower cost.
Motorola's NED approach to displays could enable low cost, flat panel wall-mounted TV, greater than 50 inches in the diagonal and just one inch deep, to become a reality in the not too distant future. The technology also could be used for much larger displays, such as those used in sporting
events.
In addition to researching advanced transistors, the Motorola Labs team also is collaborating with researchers at Arizona State University to develop ultra-sensitive chemical/biological sensors based on single-walled carbon nanotubes. Another group at Motorola Labs is researching the use of CNTs for high-brightness flat-panel displays.
.0030 is like the first inch of rain before a pending hurricane .05-.07 was the range before sept 11. can this stock get back there is the question.
look at pghi .0001 to .03 in short order
look at lbtt .0014 to .02 in short order
morning all doing some chart dd what do you think!!!
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=ctkh,uu[w,a]dacayyay[db][pc50!c200!f][vc60][iut!lb14!ll14]&r=8495
the above chart look at the volume for the last two day's of november heave volume both day's .0002 is the ask. (all buy's) december 1st ctkh spikes to .0003 (first time in a month) then goes back to .0002 that was when i bought this company (big green flag) - this is when the buyback really happened.
right before december 1st!!!!!!
also look at the size of the candels very long for a sub penny (post december) = heavy price changes ( a stock has to have a low os for there to be such a strong price change. pre december the candels are short or tight shows there is a large os takes more to move more.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/javachart/javachart.asp?symb=ctkh&time=&freq=
also a three month chart look at the candels pre december/ post december - THE BUYBACK HAS HAPPENED. the os is down by half!!!!!!!
be very happy you own this company!!!!!!!
END OF LINE
You have some good things to say, I wish we had more members to talk with.
You should get people. to come visit this link.
This is like a conversations without all the pumping and bashing on RB.
There are very few good posts on the RB, and it is a waste of time sorting through all the messages on that board.
a long wait with a penny stock anything can happen!
Maybe a retest of support. Anyone have any comments.
Well anyway, have a great easter;-)
brain
I hope we all hit it big.
COME BACK WIT ME GOLD LUCKY>........
I assume that this means that there should little resistance of people selling off the stock as it increases in value since there are few people holding the stock from that time. Are my readings correct?
Thanks,
i expect a dip to .0018/.0019 before news!!!
made some fast money on ibzt on friday. i'm pretty hopeful a intraday dip will happen so i can get back in with 3.5 to 4mil and will most likely sit it out till news. (and then .01 will be on the radar)
best of luck.
offshore
best of luck everyone in the new year
my position is 4.2mil shares total i am very heavy in ctkh.
the chart shows a almost oversold condition and the q4 news is close!!!! STRONG BUY
rsi is at 50 down from the 70 plus reading from around .0040 pps
fast stoc is coming off of 20
pro-go has the professional line above the green. very bullish
http://charts.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=CTKH&data=A&date=121903&den=LOW&evnt=ADV&grid=N&jav=ADV&size=D&sky=N&sly=N&vol=Y&late=Y&ch1=011&arga=&argb=&argc=&ov1=059&argd=&arge=&argf= &ch2=031&argg=&argh=&argi=&ov2=&argj=&argk=&argl=&code=XSTKIC&org=stk
just watch this stock it's going to pop!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
just have a feeling and from .0020 a 100% gain is so easy/1000% alittle harder. i like the chart it shows that the stock can move up and not be oversold at it's current price.rsi is at 50 down from the 70 plus reading from around .0040 pps
fast stoc is coming off of 20
pro-go has the professional line above the green. very bullish
[URL=http://charts.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=CTKH&data=A&date=121903&den=LOW&evnt=ADV&grid=N&jav=ADV&size=D&sky=N&sly=N&vol=Y&late=Y&ch1=011&arga=&argb=&argc=&ov1=059&argd=&arge=& argf=]http://charts.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=CTKH&data=A&date=121903&den=LOW&evnt=ADV&grid=N&jav=ADV&size=D&sky=N&sly=N&vol=Y&late=Y&ch1=011&arga=&argb=&argc=&ov1=059&argd=&arge= &argf=[/URL] &ch2=031&argg=&argh=&argi=&ov2=&argj=&argk=&argl=&code=XSTKIC&org=stkjust watch this stock it's going to pop!!!
Doji,
I hope you are correct. I bought a bunch of this stock at the latest high, .0036. Just outta' pure stubborness I will keep it for a while longer.
Esteban
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
[B]just have a feeling and from .0020 a 100% gain is so easy/1000% alittle harder. i like the chart it shows that the stock can move up and not be oversold at it's current price.
ctkh is ready to move.
cci, cmf very bullish pretty nice for a strong upward movement!!!!
If the buyback is taking place, their next PR should be interesting. Expected around 2nd week of January (I read that somewhere).
If the buyback is taking place, their next PR should be interesting. Expected around 2nd week of January (I read that somewhere).[/B][/QUOTE]
It made a huge breakout from 0.0009 (approx) to 0.0040, settled back to 0.0020 & being sideways since then, but with resistance at 0.0020.
I am hoping it will make 0.0030 before any PR comes in.
[This message has been edited by Tonyg032001 (edited January 06, 2004).]
2004 is going to be a very good year....
rsi is going up / money flow is positive.
we could see a stong move up!!!
Buy 237000 CTKH Limitat0.002, GTC Canceled
Buy 237000 CTKH Limit at 0.0019, DAY Canceled
i keep putting in orders till it get's filled sometimes 20 times and it will fill finally.
ameritrade is weird.
i am so heavy in ctkh my hair is going grey. lol
4.2mil going all the way..... long
risk = reward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
with pinks you just never know!!!!!i am so heavy in ctkh my hair is going grey. lol
4.2mil going all the way..... long
risk = reward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have ameritrade works fine
do this limit@.0021 all or none good for today.
use a limit order and use AON allways when you buy penny's.
i have a castle i would like to build in costa rica when i sell a few mil of ctkh. lol
i can't wait for the next .0020 point gain. OH YES
quote:
Originally posted by bigmoneystop:
Is CTKH still associated with Motorola?
www.nanoelectronicsplanet.com/nanochannels/products/article/0,4028,10460_148134 1,00.html
I meant to attach this news release about Motorola getting into the flat tv market. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040106/65308_1.html
perpare i bet the mm's throw a shake or two before the news is released!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
pegasus what country are you going to buy when this thing pops. with all thouse millions of sharesi have a castle i would like to build in costa rica when i sell a few mil of ctkh. lol
i can't wait for the next .0020 point gain. OH YES
news must be getting close...
hopefully we can get above .0030 before news then .01 is so easy! till the pr the mm's are going to play hardball and keep this stock going sideways.
it's a mean green game.
Do you think it would be a good time to buy this stock now? Thanks!
news must be getting close...
hopefully we can get above .0030 before news then .01 is so easy! till the pr the mm's are going to play hardball and keep this stock going sideways.
it's a mean green game.[/B][/QUOTE]
hell i'm in 10 large. lol
took this stock from .0002 to .0025 sold all 3mil shares.
bought some ibzt, pacc, cytp, sold all for 100% plus gains each. then as crazy as i can be i put it all back in ctkh between .0021/.0023 hmmmmmmmmm
fun as can be and risk = reward
started with 1300 now at 10,000 let's see if it goes to 100,000k
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
if you can score in around .0020/.0021 might as well would be very suprised if it went lower. just look for the intraday dip.hell i'm in 10 large. lol
took this stock from .0002 to .0025 sold all 3mil shares.
bought some ibzt, pacc, cytp, sold all for 100% plus gains each. then as crazy as i can be i put it all back in ctkh between .0021/.0023 hmmmmmmmmm
fun as can be and risk = reward
started with 1300 now at 10,000 let's see if it goes to 100,000k
some game playing or what with the pps with the mm BRGE.
also i seem to have better luck scoring better %'s when i'm in two stocks max. than 5 or 6 when i have that many stock there allways seems to be a dragger in the group.
all for one and one for all lol
quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Is CTKH going to be at the CES with their flat screen plasmas???? Thanks
I checked on the CES website and did not find them listed as one of the exhibitors.
with pk stocks the ????????????????????????? are so long you get lost
19 Commerce St.
Poughkeepsie
NY 12603-2608
USA
Phone: 845-452-3510
so we wait tick tock tick tock
risk = reward
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
COME ON BABY BUST A NUT....... TOCK TICK
i meet a cool family (new money) that scored fat cash off of the penny's it was on the surge of 2000.
i have been playing the penny's and watching ever since. i hope to eat dinner with them one day!
it happened for them it can happen for us/me.
pretty cool talking to your investment
news is king in penny land
NOTE: THESE ARE EXCEPTIONS, NOT NORMS (slightly better odds than the lottery)
remember it is a pretty small company and on the pink's
quote:
Originally posted by Doji say what!!:
usa are you watching L2 for ctkhsome game playing or what with the pps with the mm BRGE.
also i seem to have better luck scoring better %'s when i'm in two stocks max. than 5 or 6 when i have that many stock there allways seems to be a dragger in the group.
all for one and one for all lol
check this out ctkh got anouther market maker today VERT - should be a good sign i would think.
this pimple is coming to a head.
Institution Buying On 12/18/03 and 1/05/04
http://iw.thomsonfn.com/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?t=CTKH&mgp=20031218&i=3&hdate=20031218&x=15&y=10
KEEP AN EYE on THOMPSON I WATCH, as I see Insitutional Interest. I cant explain it, but it is definately welcomed.
If institutions are buying in like i picked up on the I watch site, they must have or know more information than we do, about what is going on behind the scenes, and financial position of the company.
This could be the real gold mine i think it is. I hope so, need to start saving some money.
Good luck once again.
Talk to you all soon.
Keep up the great posts. I enjoy reading everything, you all have to say.
Can someone call MOTOROLA and find out the exact position Cetek Technology is in with Motorola and the licensing PACT they have with them.
What is the current status, and when will the Ceramic Substrates start to be mass produced. I understand the PROTOTYPES have been produced in Motorolas Phoenix plant with CETEK.
THE INCREASED VOLUME seems to be due to the recent developments at Motorola.
You have your right to your opinion. BUT i have my shares, and Continue to accumulate.
I like what I see and think something more is going on than what we know.
Everything looks positive, I dont know what your complaining about. You should THANK ME for all the Research I DID FOR YOU.
YOUR WELCOME.
If your long then you should be content. I know I am.
The stock is moving higher, and closed 10 % higher today.
Either your very greedy, impatient or a daytrader who wants to move on but cant.
I was away for a few days, and I had a stored password. Now its gone, and wont log me on.
I will continue to post as a member the new links I come up with.
NEW ADDITIONS TO THE NANOTECHNOLOGY LIST INCLUDE
BIPH.ob and avxsf.pk
This could explode as soon as the cross over takes place, my guess next week.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=CTKH.PK&t=3m&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=m50,m200&a=&c=
Volume over 500 Million today. Something is definately getting ready to take place.
Guys This is Very obvious.
HIGHER LOWS, HIGHER HIGHS.
Range was .0019 - .0024 now .0022- .0026.
THE LOWS are moving up, and Support is following.
This could be a long slow ride up, which I like because there will not be a dump. Will be strong. I like the charts, and like the potential.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL please keep in touch.
KEEP 1 THREAD PLEASE....
NICE CURVE UP BEGINNING TO FORM. THIS IS WHAT we have been waiting for.
PAST FEW WEEKS BUILT A SUPPORT LEVEL, and now the next leg is coming into play.
PATIENCE on this one guys.
Something may be up. I dont know. ANY IDEA GUYS.
http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet
We are all in this together.
I would like to add something to my disclaimer:
I am not paid by anyone to provide this information however I do hold a position in the stock, and my perception may be some what biased.
I own the stock, and expect great things from this emerging company.
I thank anyone for providing new information and keeping new investors informed about the new developments.
ALWAYS REMEMBER- THE INFORMATION I provide is free and in almost all cases is my OPINION only. If a link is not provided, I am just sharing my views, and what I believe or think can occur in the future.
ANY future events that take place, may have a negative impact as well as a positive impact and both sides must be understood.
My opinion is -- VERY little downside risk at the current price.
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
Here is a better link- the old one i just listed is not working.
[URL=http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet?u=14982&c=6303547673871694512&a=n&symbol=CTKH&date=2&price1=&price2=&tradeSize1=&tradeSize2=&pageSi ze=40]http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet?u=14982&c=6303547673871694512&a=n&symbol=CTKH&date=2&price1=&price2=&tradeSize1=&tradeSize2=&pageS ize=40[/URL]
Did anyone notice the huge orders the last two days on the Alphatrades page and they all occured after hours!! I don't know what T(F) stands for. Do any of you folks know?
Esteban
if it helps
big money/big share blocks moving in and out of this stock!!!!
gotta love the crazy world of the penny's
Moves look to be coming larger and a more dramatic run upward could be in the works.
'
I like what I see and
i believe we just made a golden crossover, with the 50 day crossing the 200 day from below.
What do you guys think..
I cant see anything but upwards movement short term.
This is going to be a great weekend.
My confidence is totally in this company right now, and I am very content with my investment.
GOOD LUCK GUYS...
here this important: pinksheets.com has ctkh with the most volume for the day above ****/ty cmkm and 1.2mil in dollar volume for a sub penny. why would poeple be dropping such heavy money in. new is very close and it must be decent to say the least.
pinksheet stocks can give the same gains with the same amount of risk as otcbb.
THIS IS HUGE..
NEXT WEEK COULD BE A VERY LARGE BREAKOUT UPWARDS.. BASED ON THE TECHNICALS..
I don't think that was called for. No I am not stupid. I just thought it would be less of a bother to email. And thought it would be reasonable to expect a response.
I would like to call you names however I feel I am above that.
doji sucks ass is that cool.... we even lol
If you come up with anything new that we do not have on our board, please feel free to add it.
Anything on this board are opinions in most case and should not be used in solely making investment decisions.
DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH BEFORE INVESTING YOUR HARD EARNED CASH.
I look forward to hearing from you..
they went on the market to grow off of our money i say we have the right to call!!!!
??????? ANYONE WANT TO ELABORATE.... THE COMPANY IS RECOGNIZED AS AN EXPERIENCED TECHNOLOGICAL LEADER...
Technology Development for the Smart Display - A Versatile
High-Performance Video Display Integrated with Electronics
FED Corporation, Hopewell Junction, NY
Analog Devices (Greensboro, NC)
BFGoodrich Avionics Systems (Columbus, OH)
Cetek Technologies, Inc. (Poughkeepsie, NY)
InfiMed, Inc. (Liverpool, NY)
Kaiser Electronics (San Jose, CA)
Develop technologies based on multi-layer ceramic modules to
integrate computer functions and a high-performance field emitter
array display in a single, compact, cost-effective Smart Display.
Requested ATP funds: $7,870 K
Est. project budget: $15,739 K
Announced: July 1995
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/g95-43.htm
I also here a rumor floating around about the fact that CNBC is having some kind of nanotechnology Report on Tuesday.
I wonder if they will mention CETEK.
thanks
You just reminded me.
Will post if I find anything for us to look into.
The signing ceremony -- during which firms such as Motorola Inc (NYSE:MOT), Intel Corp (NASDAQ:INTC) and Cisco Systems Inc (NASDAQ:CSCO) will seal contracts with major Chinese companies -- will take place on January 13, it said citing Hong Kong's Phoenix Satellite Television
I just thought that this might be interesting. Hasen't it been speculated that (mot) might be shipping display components over to china for final production? If cetek is involved...
RUN is getting stronger, and more interesting.
5 day chart .
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CTKH.PK&t=5d
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
This blizzard is on the * * * GamezNFlix 2004 * * * tread and he is not so welcomed... just beware he looks like a trouble maker see his postings there
quote:
Originally posted by cyberrat67:
I almost sold this morning when I saw it heading down...but I'm going to hang onto it I think...it's just profit taking going on now...it will climb back up methinks
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Level 2 anyone? I want to know if I should be buying or selling. I have share under and over the current price.
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Level 2 anyone? I want to know if I should be buying or selling. I have share under and over the current price.
.0050 will be cheap when it passes .045 lol
Looks like we retraced and formed a higher support level at .003.
LOOKS TO BE A GREEN DAY THURSDAY.
JC
quote:
Originally posted by PsychoMonkey61:
think the run is over?
HERESY....i sure hope not!
[This message has been edited by justplayin (edited January 16, 2004).]
INTERESTING CTKH RB POST******
by: lifegear (M/Hawaii) 01/05/04 08:01 pm
Msg: 7229 of 7684
By: mach1cobra428yes
05 Jan 2004, 03:42 PM EST
Msg. 19460 of 19748
Jump to msg. #
OK everyone, you ready for this! I could not stand it any more, I just called CTKH and Optidoc you are the man., my call was at 12:25 acific time. My first question to Mr. Hilal was
question: How many O/s
answer: Can't tell me
question: News for sure this month
answer: yes sometime this month
question: buyback in progress
answer: yes
question: Is there anything you can tell me at all
answer: Better than you can even imagine. this is a
from Hilal himself.
Also he did say O/S amount should be in PR
I talked to him a little more and that is all he wanted to say, he sounded very very excited and happy.
I told him I owned a fair amount of shares and I wished him the best of luck and what he was doing was exciting. He said thank you very much and once a gain happily said it is better than you can imagine, and than he said to me God bless you, and I told him the same and the call ended.
I have never talked to a CEO that had this much excitement to offer in his phone conversation.
Optidoc I am sorry for any doubt I had toward you!
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Psycho, the run for the day may be over, but this one could see cooper quickly with any positive news. Look at USAsail in at .0055, that is still a good entry for a longer hold IMO.[This message has been edited by justplayin (edited January 16, 2004).]
JC
50 Day crossed and is trading above the 200 day, MOVING Up now.
CHART IS CLEARLY DEFINED...
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=CTKH,uu[h,a]daclyiay[db][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G
Msg. 34786
quote:
Originally posted by Sigma_1966:
Good Reading.Msg. 34786
if your sweating it out sell and regret it later.
i bet your not even a big fish in ctkh i have 20grand on ctkh and i have no worries does that help.
I RECIEVED THIS AS AN E-MAIL MASS MAILING. THIS IS MY TAKE ON THE E-MAIL ADVERTIZING SYSTEM. #1 IT IS PAID FOR BY THE COMPANY--LIKE PUTTING AN ADD IN THE PAPER. ABOUT EVERY 10 DAYS A NEW GROUP OF E-MAILS WILL BE SENT OUT TO WANNA BE TRADERS. THIS WILL CONTINUE FOR AS LONG AS CTKH CAN PAY FOR THE ADVERTIZING. NOT THAT I PARTICULARLLY BELIEVE THE BOLD STATEMENTS--NIETHER DO I BELIEVE IS A BAD THING. #2 LOTS OF INEXPERIENCE TRADERS WILL PROBABLY JUMP ON THIS LIKE STINK ON THE PROVERBIAL SH-T!! BEING A BOTTOM FEEDING DAYTRADER I WILL BE RIGHT WITH THEM. DEPENDING ON THE ACTIVITY I SUSPECT I WILL TRIPLE UP ON MY ALREADY STRONG FREE POSITION ACQUIRED LAST MONDAY ON THE RUN UP. LOL #3 DOWNSIDE FOR THE LONG AND STRONG HOLDERS--WHEN THE DUST SETTLES AND THE STOCK HAS NOT PERFORMED LIKE THE LETTER SAYS. THERE WILL BE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF SELLING. PUBLIC MAY OR MAY NOT GET THE IDEA THAT IS A PUMP AND DUMP AND AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT A GOOD PUBLIC REPUTATION FOR ANY COMPANY. #4 UPSIDE FOR DAYTRADERS--IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT RIDE. 1ST THE RUN. THEN PLAYING THE GAP. THEN THE RUN. THEN THE GAP. THIS WILL BE A DAYTRADERS WET DREAM..COME TO MAMMA.
MAYBE THIS E-MAIL HAS BEEN GOING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND I JUST HAPPENED TO GET IT NOW. DO NOT KNOW. MAYBE IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE PRICE OR ACTIVITY ON THIS STOCK AT ALL. OTHER OPINIONS????
CETEK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
(CTKH.PK) - PRICE .0038
10 Day Target - .20
3 month Target - 1.15
THERE IS STRONG SPECULATION THAT CETEK MAY BE IN LINE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY WHICH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH MADE AVAILABLE WHEN HE RECENTLY SIGNED THE NANOTECH BILL. ALSO, MONTHS BACK, CETEK FORMED A LICENSING PACT WITH MOTOROLA (MOT-NYSE) FOR FLAT PANEL DISPLAY PRODUCTION. THE COST OF PRODUCING THIS FLAT-PANEL DISPLAY IS 33% CHEAPER AND USES 1/10TH THE POWER!
THE MARKET FOR FLAT-PANEL DISPLAYS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENTS, NOT ONLY OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY MARKET, WHICH IS WORTH $51 BILLION, BUT THE ENTIRE ELECTRONIC INDUSTRY!! Strong Buy for CTKH targeted to hit .20 in 10 days and 1.00 in 2 months
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where'd they get our email addresses from?
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
CTKH THREAD,I RECIEVED THIS AS AN E-MAIL MASS MAILING. THIS IS MY TAKE ON THE E-MAIL ADVERTIZING SYSTEM. #1 IT IS PAID FOR BY THE COMPANY--LIKE PUTTING AN ADD IN THE PAPER. ABOUT EVERY 10 DAYS A NEW GROUP OF E-MAILS WILL BE SENT OUT TO WANNA BE TRADERS. THIS WILL CONTINUE FOR AS LONG AS CTKH CAN PAY FOR THE ADVERTIZING. NOT THAT I PARTICULARLLY BELIEVE THE BOLD STATEMENTS--NIETHER DO I BELIEVE IS A BAD THING. #2 LOTS OF INEXPERIENCE TRADERS WILL PROBABLY JUMP ON THIS LIKE STINK ON THE PROVERBIAL SH-T!! BEING A BOTTOM FEEDING DAYTRADER I WILL BE RIGHT WITH THEM. DEPENDING ON THE ACTIVITY I SUSPECT I WILL TRIPLE UP ON MY ALREADY STRONG FREE POSITION ACQUIRED LAST MONDAY ON THE RUN UP. LOL #3 DOWNSIDE FOR THE LONG AND STRONG HOLDERS--WHEN THE DUST SETTLES AND THE STOCK HAS NOT PERFORMED LIKE THE LETTER SAYS. THERE WILL BE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF SELLING. PUBLIC MAY OR MAY NOT GET THE IDEA THAT IS A PUMP AND DUMP AND AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT A GOOD PUBLIC REPUTATION FOR ANY COMPANY. #4 UPSIDE FOR DAYTRADERS--IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT RIDE. 1ST THE RUN. THEN PLAYING THE GAP. THEN THE RUN. THEN THE GAP. THIS WILL BE A DAYTRADERS WET DREAM..COME TO MAMMA.
MAYBE THIS E-MAIL HAS BEEN GOING AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND I JUST HAPPENED TO GET IT NOW. DO NOT KNOW. MAYBE IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE PRICE OR ACTIVITY ON THIS STOCK AT ALL. OTHER OPINIONS????
CETEK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
(CTKH.PK) - PRICE .003810 Day Target - .20
3 month Target - 1.15
THERE IS STRONG SPECULATION THAT CETEK MAY BE IN LINE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY WHICH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH MADE AVAILABLE WHEN HE RECENTLY SIGNED THE NANOTECH BILL. ALSO, MONTHS BACK, CETEK FORMED A LICENSING PACT WITH MOTOROLA (MOT-NYSE) FOR FLAT PANEL DISPLAY PRODUCTION. THE COST OF PRODUCING THIS FLAT-PANEL DISPLAY IS 33% CHEAPER AND USES 1/10TH THE POWER!
THE MARKET FOR FLAT-PANEL DISPLAYS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENTS, NOT ONLY OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY MARKET, WHICH IS WORTH $51 BILLION, BUT THE ENTIRE ELECTRONIC INDUSTRY!! Strong Buy for CTKH targeted to hit .20 in 10 days and 1.00 in 2 months
quote:
Originally posted by Sigma_1966:
Good Reading.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CTKH&board= CTKH&read=34786&submit=Go&startfrom=&numposts=60Msg. 34786
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
Institutions BUYING TODAY.
http://iw.thomsonfn.com/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=ctkh&symbol=ctkh
I know I run the risk of a lot of hate with this --but I can't Imagine what institutions would buy pink sheets
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I know I run the risk of a lot of hate with this --but I can't Imagine what institutions would buy pink sheets
Glass , Big One's
SO THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE ALL TOGETHER DIFFERENT TO WORK ON THE CNT TECH - SOUTH CAROLINA
Cetek Technologies Announces Acquisition.
Business Wire, Sept 8, 1999
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 8, 1999--
Cetek Technologies Inc. (OTC BB:CTKT), manufacturer of advanced structural and electronic ceramics, Wednesday announced that it has acquired 100 percent of privately held MultiLythics Inc. of Greenville, S.C.
MultiLythics was founded in 1984 as an operating division of Sprague Electric Co. to extend multilayer co-fired ceramic technology to greater levels of design sophistication and to broader application areas.
This technology will enable Cetek Technologies to manufacture multilayer ceramic substrate fully compatible with Thick-Film Hybrid technology, but containing all the necessary passive components and interconnect wiring required by the finished circuit.
The use of this new technology by Cetek will greatly reduce the part count, assembly time and design complexity of the manufacturing process. The advantages are improved reliability and reduction in the finished products' size.
Cetek has extended the technology for both thick-film and thin-film substrates in two important ways: It produces flatter and smoother substrates without the need for costly polishing, and Cetek is capable of producing dramatically larger substrates than presently available elsewhere.
Cetek's present capability yields 12" square substrates with 20" square substrates planned for production in December 1999. Another distinguishing capability of Cetek is its versatility in substrate materials design. Cetek offers proprietary formulations with "tailored" specifications and characteristics to meet the exacting requirements and needs of targeted customers.
Cetek Technologies is a material company with special emphasis in the ceramic materials field. Cetek produces and markets industrial ceramics for structural and electronic applications including aerospace, bioceramics, insulators and integrated circuit packages.
The company announced Sept. 1 that all necessary documents have been completed and submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission and to the NASD to become a fully reporting company.
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements contained herein that are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
COPYRIGHT 1999 Business Wire
and i plan to do just that.
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I know I run the risk of a lot of hate with this --but I can't Imagine what institutions would buy pink sheets
HEDGE FUND MANAGERS
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quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Diana,
post that on RB and let the feeding frenzy begin!!
I AM ALL FOR THAT. I DO NOT POST ON ANY OTHER BOARDS. THEREFORE I AM NOT A MEMBER AND REALLY DO NOT WANT TO BECOME ONE. I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF MESSAGE BOARDS OUT THERE SO:
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO CUT AND PASTE THIS ALL OVER THE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE VERY WELCOME TO DO SO. HELL TAKE AN ADD OUT IN THE NEW YORK TIMES. LOL
MAMMA NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF SHOES!!!!! COME TO MAMMA!!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by knee-hi-boot-gurl:
I got two similar emails for other penny stocks, a couple weeks back. The morning after i recieved the mail both stocks jumped 100% plus!! It was junk mail, so I ignored them. Kinda a pump and dump tactic i guess!? Could i have the address of the company that sent you the news about CTKH? My email is marisa23sc@yahoo.com Thank ya! **Marissa**
MARISSA,
I HAVE WINDOW WASHERS ON MY COMPUTER WITH BLEACH SET TO CLEAN EVERY 24 HOURS. I DID NOT THINK TO SAVE THE E-MAIL AS NEW. SO I DO NOT HAVE THE E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR YOU.
ALL IS NOT LOST THO. MY FRIEND ALSO GOT THE E-MAIL AND I CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE FOR HER TO SEND THE E-MAIL ADDRESS TO ME.
I AM SURE I WILL HAVE IT BY THE END OF THE DAY AND I WILL POST IT.
GOOD THINKING: VALIDATION IS A MUST--YOUR ARE A SMART COOKIE--GOOD LOOKING OUT.
I AM CONTINUALLY AMAZED AT THE GREAT TRADING MINDS THAT POST HERE ON ALLSTOCKS.
GOOD LUCK TRADING
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DIANA
NOW I think .20 cents in 10 days is a bit far fetched, but IM not complaining.
That would make me very very happy.
Show me the MONEY.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL.
Cetek Technologies Announces Acquisition.
Business Wire, Sept 8, 1999
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 8, 1999--
Cetek Technologies Inc. (OTC BB:CTKT), manufacturer of advanced structural and electronic ceramics, Wednesday announced that it has acquired 100 percent of privately held MultiLythics Inc. of Greenville, S.C.
MultiLythics was founded in 1984 as an operating division of Sprague Electric Co. to extend multilayer co-fired ceramic technology to greater levels of design sophistication and to broader application areas.
This technology will enable Cetek Technologies to manufacture multilayer ceramic substrate fully compatible with Thick-Film Hybrid technology, but containing all the necessary passive components and interconnect wiring required by the finished circuit.
The use of this new technology by Cetek will greatly reduce the part count, assembly time and design complexity of the manufacturing process. The advantages are improved reliability and reduction in the finished products' size.
Cetek has extended the technology for both thick-film and thin-film substrates in two important ways: It produces flatter and smoother substrates without the need for costly polishing, and Cetek is capable of producing dramatically larger substrates than presently available elsewhere.
Cetek's present capability yields 12" square substrates with 20" square substrates planned for production in December 1999. Another distinguishing capability of Cetek is its versatility in substrate materials design. Cetek offers proprietary formulations with "tailored" specifications and characteristics to meet the exacting requirements and needs of targeted customers.
Cetek Technologies is a material company with special emphasis in the ceramic materials field. Cetek produces and markets industrial ceramics for structural and electronic applications including aerospace, bioceramics, insulators and integrated circuit packages.
The company announced Sept. 1 that all necessary documents have been completed and submitted to the Securities and Exchange Commission and to the NASD to become a fully reporting company.
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements contained herein that are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
COPYRIGHT 1999 Business Wire
quote:
Originally posted by knee-hi-boot-gurl:
I got two similar emails for other penny stocks, a couple weeks back. The morning after i recieved the mail both stocks jumped 100% plus!! It was junk mail, so I ignored them. Kinda a pump and dump tactic i guess!? Could i have the address of the company that sent you the news about CTKH? My email is marisa23sc@yahoo.com Thank ya! **Marissa**
MARISSA,
HERE IS THE ENTIRE E-MAIL.
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DIANA
WOOPS! ALSO E-MAILED TO YOU!!
Forwarded Message:
Subj: Investors Pick of the Month: CTKH
Date: 1/17/2004 6:02:50 AM US Eastern Standard Time
From: Jmischu
STOCK IN PROFILE:
CETEK TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
(CTKH.PK) - PRICE .0038
10 Day Target - .20
3 month Target - 1.15
THERE IS STRONG SPECULATION THAT CETEK MAY BE IN LINE TO RECEIVE SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY WHICH PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH MADE AVAILABLE WHEN HE RECENTLY SIGNED THE NANOTECH BILL. ALSO, MONTHS BACK, CETEK FORMED A LICENSING PACT WITH MOTOROLA (MOT-NYSE) FOR FLAT PANEL DISPLAY PRODUCTION. THE COST OF PRODUCING THIS FLAT-PANEL DISPLAY IS 33% CHEAPER AND USES 1/10TH THE POWER!
THE MARKET FOR FLAT-PANEL DISPLAYS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENTS, NOT ONLY OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY MARKET, WHICH IS WORTH $51 BILLION, BUT THE ENTIRE ELECTRONIC INDUSTRY!! Strong Buy for CTKH targeted to hit .20 in 10 days and 1.00 in 2 months
THE READER SHOULD VERIFY ALL CLAIMS AND DO THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE INVESTING IN ANY SECURITIES MENTIONED. INVESTING IN SECURITIES IS SPECULATIVE AND CARRIES A HIGH DEGREE OF RISK.
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Is an upward trend. We gapped up hard to .007 needed to back fill the gap, and retrace.
Price began with a steep climb to .0037 with resistance at .004.
We made a support level at .0019 and traded in .0019 - .0024 for several days, before breaking .0024 on HIGH volume of over 500 million and again broke .0025 and .0026 to break through the .003's and close above resistance at .004.
We gapped up hard to .007 which was seen to be reisistance, and retraced to make a new support level at .0031-.0033.
We are now on your next leg up, and moving up once again, after filling the large gap left behind.
The chart is bullish. 50 day has crossed above the 200 day moving averages which is the #1 bullish indicator. MONEY FLOW has turned positive, and the RSI has indicated we are no longer over bought, and more oversold, as shares have changed hands.
The stock is upward trending. and 50 day continues to travel above the 200 day which is a coninuation of a bullish trend, meaning we will be breaking .007 and knocking out .01. Then we should retrace if we gap up hard and leave a gap, or we can gradually increase, without leaving a gap, and therefore will not retrace in that case.
The stock is looking to be trading in the .04 - .05 cent mark by the end of the first quarter, but sooner on news.
The bullish trend needs to be monitored, because it could collapse, but would only do so, if the company issued very VERY BAD news, which is very unlikely.
I took the liberty of posting the speculation email on RB...here comes the feeding frenzy!
Thanks to all for their efforts..I am in this heavy and long.
Roger
quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Diana and Marissa,I took the liberty of posting the speculation email on RB...here comes the feeding frenzy!
Thanks to all for their efforts..I am in this heavy and long.
Roger
ROGER,
YOU ARE THE MAN!! LIKE YOU SAID "LET THE GAMES BEGIN".
I WILL RUN MY FAT A-S AROUND THE BLOCK A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH THE LIT TORCH EVEN RUN UP A COUPLE OF FLIGHTS OF STAIRS LIKE ROCKY. CAN'T YOU HEAR THE ROCKY MUSIC AND THE FANS CHEERING!!! YOU WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME!! I AM HAVING A MOMENT. LOL
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DIANA
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quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Diana and Marissa,I took the liberty of posting the speculation email on RB...here comes the feeding frenzy!
Thanks to all for their efforts..I am in this heavy and long.
Roger
I PUT OUT ALL POINTS BULLITIN TO A FEW FELLOW DAYTRADERS. I AM SURE THEY WILL POST ON MESSAGE BOARDS THAT THEY DEAL WITH.
HOPEFULLY OTHERS WHO POST HERE WILL ALSO POST ON OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS THAT THEY VISIT.
LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!
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From all the hype on this stock, it seems like a good investment. This would be my first stock purchase ever, and it seems like it could earn a nice return. I saw its at .004 last I checked, do you all think its a good stock to get in on?
Thanks!
2003 Giants in Advanced Ceramics (CETEK not in top 20, but listed at top of page 4 http://www.ceramicindustry.com/FILES/HTML/PDF/2003giants-adv-ceramic.pdf )
The directors and executive officers of the Company are as follows;
Name Age Position
Fayiz Hilal 59 President and Chairman of the
Board
John Hilal 30 Vice President of Operations,
Director
Dr. Gordon Love 64 Vice President of Strategic
Planning, Technical Director,
Director]
Dr. Richard Spriggs 64 Director
Thomas C. Aposporos 45 Director
Dr. Ellen Tormey 38 Director
All directors serve for a term of one year or until their respective successors
have been duly elected.
FAYIZ HILAL Mr. Hilal is the founder of Cetek Technologies, Inc. and has served as its President and Chairman of the Board since its inception. Prior to establishing the Company, Mr. Hilal served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Tratron, Inc., which he established in 1976 specializing in custom engineering and technical design services. In addition, Mr. Hilal held technical and managerial positions with Honeywell, Inc. http://www.honeywell.com/ , Chemical Rubber http://www.crcpress.com and I.B.M. Corporation. http://www.ibm.com/us/
JOHN HILAL Mr. Hilal has been employed by the Company since 1994 and has served as Vice President of Manufacturing and Director of the Company since 1996. Mr. Hilal received his undergraduate degree in Business and Marketing from the University of Notre Dame in 1994. Mr. John Hilal is the son of Fayiz Hilal.
DR. GORDON LOVE Dr. Love has been Vice President of Strategic Planning, Technical Director and a Director of the Company since 1993. From 1987 to 1992, he served as Technical Director of the ceramic division of ALCOA http://www.alcoa.com . From 1978 to 1987, Dr. Love served as Vice President of Technology at Sprague Electric Company http://www.sbelectronics.com/fastfacts.htm . Dr. Love received his B.S. degree in Metallurgy from Case-Western Reserve University in 1958 and his M.S. degree and PhD in Metallurgy from Carnegie-Mellon University in 1960 and 1963, respectively.
DR. RICHARD SPRIGGS Dr. Spriggs has served as a director of the Company since 1993. From 1987 to the present, he has served as and continues to serve as a John F. McMahon professor of ceramic technology at the New York State College of Ceramics at Alfred University. Prior thereto, Dr. Spriggs served nine years as a staff officer and staff director of the National Research Counsel at the National Academy of Sciences http://www.nas.edu/nrc/ . Dr. Spriggs received his B.S. degree in ceramics from Pennsylvania State University and his M.S. and PhD degrees in Ceramic Engineering from the University of Illinois.
http://mstconf.com/assoc.htm http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0126546401/p11-20/ref%3Dnosim/102-9343692-9674538 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22RICHARD+SPRIGGS%22+ceramics&btnG=Google+Search
DR. ELLEN TORMEY Dr. Tormey has served as a Director of the Company since November, 1995. For more than the last five years she has been Senior Engineer with David Sarnoff Research Center http://www.sarnoff.com/ . From 1991 to 1995, she was a Principal Engineer with Ceramics Process Systems Corporation http://www.alsic.com/index.html . From 1989 to 1990, Dr. Tormey was Manager of Laminated Product R&D Group. Prior thereto, Dr. Tormey held management positions with several companies, as well as spending three years as Senior Engineer with Digital Equipment Corporation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation . Dr. Tormey received her B.S. degree in Ceramic Engineering from Alfred University in 1976 and her PhD in Ceramic Science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1982.
THOMAS C. APOSPOROS Mr. Aposporos has served as a director of the company since 1995. For the last five years Mr. Aposporos is the principal in Aposporos & Son http://www.aposporos.com/ , a commercial real estate brokerage firm. He also serves as chairman of Progressive Bank, Inc. PSBK-NASDQ and as a director of Progressive's subsidiary, Pawling Savings Bank.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/824107/000088981200003606/0000889812-00-003606-0001.txt
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50% is good enough for me in one day, hehe
.0052 close tuesday!!!!!
I PERSONALLY AM GOING TO HOLD BACK FOR A FEW THIS AM AND HOPEFULLY CTKH WILL GAP UP. I AM READY TO JUMP ON THIS WITH A CONSIDERABLY HOLDING.
OPINIONS???
GOOD LUCK TO USE ALL.
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quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
http://www.aztrib.com/index.php?sty=6654
quote:
Originally posted by Marcidius:
Even if it DOES close at or around .006 and retrace a little bit it will still be setting up for a big move AND it will have given you a 50% profit for the day50% is good enough for me in one day, hehe
I WILL SECOND THAT!!
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quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
I see huge upside potential in the CTKH charts for this week! GO CTKH BABY!
I THINK THAT THE INCREASED REVENUE AND BETTER THAN EXPECTED EARNINGS OF (MOT) WILL HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON CTKH.
OPINIONS.
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DIANA
My trades did not execute at .0044 and .0045 in which i was trying to add to my position.
SO not happy about that.
But overall a positive day.
SAYIZ HILAL IS OUT OF THE OFFICE TODAY BUT I PLAN TO CALL HIM IN THE MORNING AND CONFIRM.
PHONE 845-452-3510
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DIANA
offshore
STILL LOOK PRIME, LOOKS like reversal.
LOW VOLUME, SMALL CANDLE, AND TIGHT RANGE.
LOOKS LIKE TOMORROW COULD BE AN UP DAY.
FRIDAYS HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN BIG DAYS FOR US.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=CTKH,uu[h,a]daclyiay[db][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
PATIENCE--STILL LOOK PRIME, LOOKS like reversal.
LOW VOLUME, SMALL CANDLE, AND TIGHT RANGE.
LOOKS LIKE TOMORROW COULD BE AN UP DAY.FRIDAYS HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN BIG DAYS FOR US.
daclyiay[db][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=CTKH,uu[h,a]daclyiay[ db][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G
GOOD CALL--UP 15%
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
GOOD CALL--UP 15%
realityinc21,
I am a newbie to the board and just got into trading/investing on my own in Sept. I have a position in CTKH and wanted to ask you how you would chart this, meaning, what indicators and what timeframes do you like to use to try to determine exit and entry points (also when playing the rolls). Your insights would be very helpful. I read on another thread earlier today that there may be some news early next week. Are you anticipating a continuation of today (assuming we hold steady) for the next few days before news?
BTW - Really appreciated your info/tips on the "slit my wrists" thread.
Of course, I would appreciate opinions from anyone else!
This message board is truly a cut above the others I've seen.
Thanks
-Scott
Usually for STO 14,3,3 is used. I got these numbers from another post. Its up to you which one you would prefer to use.
Overall STO is crawling toward 65, a breakout indicator. 5 & 10 DMA are supporting current price.
GLTA
CTKH 37.5% 0.0055
Maybe ready to break resistance of 0.0070 by Monday & off we go toward 0.01.....
Can you tell me how you determine the resistance .007?
Thanks for the chart.
-Scott
Checking the 3 months chart.......
The first resistance was 0.0040. The first time it tried to cross that was around Dec 14, 2003. It finally broke resistance on Jan 12, retraced & has been tarding sideways above 0.0040.
The second resistance point was set on Jan 12 when it reached 0.0070 but could not break it & retraced back.
This is where the 0.0070 resistance comes in. It now has to break the 0.0070 before going further to 0.01
Hope I that was clear.
GLTA
I also checked out PSU's links which were also very helpful.
YESTERDAY WAS A BOTTOM, and FINISHED RETRACEMENT.
Good morning all, read this about naked short selling, just
one more plus for our side! takes affect feb, 20! This is great
got this email in.. read about shorting..
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Taking most market participants by surprise, the
National Association of Securities Dealers has drastically tightened one of
its rules governing short selling.
Known as affirmative determination, the NASD rule stipulates that brokers
and dealers engaged in a short sale transaction must make sure that shares
can be delivered by settlement time, three days later.
"We closed a loophole," said Steve Luparello, executive vice president of
Market Regulation at NASD.
Until now, non-NASD members, like specialists, option markets and foreign
brokers, weren't covered under the affirmative determination rule. That
means that non-NASD members didn't have to represent to the NASD broker
through which they conducted a short sale order that they would be able to
deliver the stock by settlement date.
A short seller typically borrows stock from a broker to sell it into the
market, betting that the share price will fall so that he can buy the stock
back at a lower price and pocket the difference.
The amended NASD affirmative determination rule, which was recently approved
by the Securities and Exchange Commission, will particularly affect short
sales conducted through foreign brokers, most specifically Canadian brokers
which have often been used by investors to sell short the stock of small
U.S. companies trading on the Over-the-counter Bulletin Board or OTCBB.
Because it's often impossible to borrow the shares of companies trading on
the OTCBB, investors and hedge funds looking to take negative bets on these
often-overvalued development-stage companies have traditionally been trading
through Canada where it's not required to borrow stock before selling it
short. The practice is known as naked shorting.
That trading avenue has now been effectively closed.
The new NASD rule doesn't cover Canadian brokers, since most are not members
of the association, instead it makes it the responsibility of U.S. brokers
trading with non-members to make sure that their counterparts will be able
to settle a transaction before completing a short sale.
"It's part of (a broker's) supervisory responsibilities," NASD's Luparello
said, adding that a non-member's previous failures to deliver should be a
good indication of whether or not it will in fact be able to complete the
transaction by the settlement date.
Market makers engaged in bone fide market making activities will continue to
be exempt from affirmative determination.
Luparello said that, unlike a parallel SEC initiative to tighten short
selling rules on the small-cap markets, the new NASD rules did not originate
from worries over mounting failures to deliver stock into the national
clearing system. But Luparello said the amended NASD rule fits nicely with
the new short selling regulations now under consideration by the SEC.
"I think it addresses a gap and (shows) that we, like the SEC, are looking
at a variety of things in this area," Luparello said.
The NASD proposal was first submitted to the SEC in November 2001, well
before alleged abuses of naked shorting became the focal point of a campaign
lead by some OTCBB companies in the U.S that say they have been victimized
by the practice.
While some investors argue that short sellers provide a needed service to
the markets, others have called for the complete abolition of short selling
because of the undue pressure its puts on the shares of companies.
While market participants in the U.S. and abroad are well aware of the new
short selling regulations being put forward by the SEC, known as Regulation
SHO, most said they knew nothing of the NASD's plan before it became final.
"It's taken us by surprise," said Richard Thomas, head of compliance at
Canadian brokerage firm Pacific International.
Although separate from it, the amended NASD rule fits tightly within the
SEC's SHO which is now under review by the SEC staff after a period during
which market participants were invited to comment on it.
As it stands, the new SEC short selling rules will make it easier to short
large-cap stocks since they would do away with the "uptick" rule, which bans
short selling on a stock when the price is falling.
But it when it comes to the small-cap markets, where it's often impossible
to borrow stock, the impact of SHO will be the opposite, making it harder to
short sale stock.
The new SEC rule sets a predetermined level of so-called clearing fails -
cases in which a broker or investor cannot deliver stock within two days
after settlement - which will trigger a 90-day blackout whereby the customer
will not be allowed to short sell that security. That 90-day exemption would
affect trading of U.S. securities in and outside the U.S.
The new NASD affirmative determination rule will take effect on Feb. 20.
Cetek has announced that it has been licensed by Motorola Inc. to produce and use Carbon Nanotube Triode (CNT) technology, which is expected to form the basis of the flat-panel display.
How the Cetek nanotube display works was not explained but it could be based on principles similar to those of the field emission display; using the areas of carbon deposited on a ceramic substrate as a source of electrons that are then accelerated to activate phosphors.
The company claims that prototype displays demonstrate the potential of a process that could produce 60-inch panels as easily as 2.5-inch displays.
In addition the company said that displays have demonstrated a display technology with a lifetime in excess of 10,000 hours that offers better viewing angles than active-matrix LCD.
This is achieved at one third the manufacturing cost and one tenth the power consumption of AMLCD, Cetek claimed.
The low cost arises from the use of manufacturing equipment used in thick film technology and the process is ready to transfer with no modifications.
Cetek is seeking funding to establish a facility in the U.S. and expects through affiliation, partnering and strategic alliance, to establish two additional production facilities in the Far East.
"This agreement has been a long time in coming to fruition, and we are extremely pleased to have achieved this major milestone for Cetek," said Fayiz Hilal, Cetek president and chief executive officer, in a statement. "We expect to move very quickly, with regard to the production facilities, to take full advantage of the massive worldwide market."
For the past five years Cetek has been researching the manufacture of a large, smooth and flat ceramic substrate with critical mechanical and electrical characteristics. During the same period Motorola has developed its CNT technology and demonstrated its operation on a ceramic substrate from Cetek. Prototype displays have been produced at a Motorola facility in Phoenix, Arizona, Cetek said.
Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Sorry, that was old news. I got a little excited and did not dig deep enough. Guess I will have to wait until Monday.
Did not mean to mislead.
IF you all place your shares above .50 cents, this will keep your shares out of reach, and they will not beable to be borrowed for others to short...
GET THE WORD out,
THIS is worth a try..
Got my GTC order in for 750K shares @ $1.37!
Everyone follow suit and they will have to move the price higher. Everyone posting on RB is already lining up getting their orders in. Come on guys, you have nothing to lose and much to gain!
Get your orders in before the opening in the morning!
Tip
Gonna Be a Great Day!
Best Wishes
Anna
I'd like to find a streamer that can handle the pink sheets. I don't normally deal with them and I hate flying blind like this.
Well, I learned some new things, FROM a PATENT LAWYER,
I understand why, HILAL is not going to file for a patent.
I was told, if he files for a patent, his technology becomes PUBLIC, and someone else with larger funding will come along and take his invention change it slightly and file their own patent. THIS is why he is so secretive.
ONE SCREW UP, and he is finished.
I was told, he should not allow anyone know the entirety of the invention and its exact specifications, and the people that do work with the product, should have some kind of stake in the company to protect the integrity and security of the technology.
WHY would you want to file a patent, NEED TO GET FUNDING, and A MAJOR AGREEMENT before filing a patent, to secure a deal, and beable to finance the project.
[This message has been edited by JAYBIRD (edited January 26, 2004).]
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DIANA
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
A VERY GOOD SIGN. CTKH HAS HELD IT'S OWN IN THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF TRADE. OUTSTANDING!!MOVE MAY BE SLOW. NEED TO BREAK THAT .007 LEVEL. A LITTLE PROFIT TAKING BUT THE STRONG ARE HOLDING.
x2...I have had my eyes on that forsaken .0070 for a while.... yesterday hit it and saw a retrace....lets try to break it now
Early Stock Market Alerts for Tuesday, January 27, 2004: GTEC, CAAS, CTKH, ARBA ( )
WESTON, Fla., Jan 27, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TheSUBWAY.com names Genesis Technology Group (OTCBB:GTEC) to its Stock Watch List. GTEC is new to TheSUBWAY.com, and we expect great things from this stock! Watch this company; it just announced big news, and we think it is due to make a move in the near term! Other stocks highlighted include:
China Automotive Systems (OTCBB:CAAS): Market Perform,
Cetek Technologies Inc. (PINK SHEETS:CTKH): Market Perform,
Ariba Inc. (NASDAQ:ARBA): Market Underperform,
quote:
Originally posted by usasail:
Yep looks like everyone is doing their duty by holding. NOW COMON PR!!!!
STOCK IS MAINTAINING WELL THRU THE DAY. A POSITIVE SIGN. GOOD STRONG HOLDERS.. IF WE HOLD TO EVEN THRU THE CLOSE TODAY--WILL BE A GOOD SIGN OF POSITIVE TRADING FOR THE A.M. JMHO
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Quote / Unquote
"...Last year, the board of directors unanimously authorized the management to purchase back some of the company's common shares. In lieu of a reverse split, management intends on initiating this effort beginning in the fourth quarter of 2003..."
They should have some kind of progress by now, hopefully....
The price did close very nicely resisting above 0.0060. Maybe a downward resistance is set & it would be a lot easier to break the upward 0.0070 resistance.
"Cetek Technology Facts:
According to Mr. Hilal and Mr. Stock, news will be out by the end of this month.
500,000,000 share buyback was completed to increase shareholder value.
CEO stated that there will be no more reverse splits.
Cetek is involved in nanotechnology, ceramic substrates, fuel cells, aerospace, flat panel displays, super aluminum reclamation furnaces (first of their kind) etc.
Cetek Website should be launched very soon to give investors more information on the happenings at Cetek.
"Cetek Process" is a term coined by Mr. Hilal.
The last PR stated that profits are up and they are looking to build additional plants in U.S. and in Asia.
These are very interesting aspects about Cetek. The management team has alot of experience and are pioneers in technology. The next few weeks should be very exciting!"
Again, the quote is not mine - was found on HedgeHog.
-Scott
ALOT OF INFORMATION GUYS..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2157
looking foward to buyback news!!
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
VERY GOOD SITE TO VISITALOT OF INFORMATION GUYS..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2157
SEEMS LIKE CTKH IS HOLDING IT'S OWN WELL. I AM REALLY HAPPY WITH THE LAST 3 DAYS. SEEMS TO BE SECURING A STRONG SOLID BASE AT .006. I KNOW IT DOES NOT SEEM THAT GOOD TO SOME WHO JUST BOUGHT IN. I BOUGHT AT .002 AND .0021.
JUST BE PATIENT--THE STOCK REALLY IS DOING WELL.
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DIANA
[This message has been edited by Jesse K (edited January 28, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by offshoretrader:
I would like to suggest to the group that we all put in a GTC Limit order for CTKH at $1.00 Thanks, offshore
http://www.investopedia.com/categories/acronyms.asp
You'll find lot's of info here.......
quote:
Originally posted by offshoretrader:
I would like to suggest to the group that we all put in a GTC Limit order for CTKH at $1.00 Thanks, offshore
[This message has been edited by Jesse K (edited January 28, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by cyberrat67:
If we all put in a sell order, then the shares can't be "loaned" out to the people going short on CTKH
I dont fully understand... could you please clarify?
Be kinda nice to turn the tables on the MM's once in a while
Also! I just got a reply from Stockenter@aol_com
All I asked is if he knows that the PR will arrive before or on 2/1/04.
His reply -
Yes, it should.
quote:
Originally posted by cvtech:
Now if we could just get all the other shareholders to do the same! lolBe kinda nice to turn the tables on the MM's once in a while
offshore
This stock will never get close to 1.00, but what the hell.
Peace out.
HOLD LONG AND STRONG.
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DIANA
I'm in for the long.
Let's go!!!
quote:
Originally posted by wyznrich:
1.00 GTC DoneLet's go!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Can't put sell order at 1$. Out of limit. Heum!
Doesn't have to be $1, any GTC should tie it up.
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Ciao! Good Luck!!
I'm in and expecting to fly high. How high do you think we will go, why, and where is news coming from? I have not read all this thread.
SJD
SJD
ANOTHER 1 % Institutional.. ??? STILL wondering about this. '
Either way, every time i see this, the days end up positive. So I dont know what institutions are alowwed to buy pinksheets, or maybe hedgefunds, but if its true that is a plus.
http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServlet
RELOAD this link twice.
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I AM EXCITED..
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Hold
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Hold
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold
Short Term Indicators Average: 40% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 348782750
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Hold
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Hold
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Hold
Medium Term Indicators Average: 25% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 307608531
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Hold
Long Term Indicators Average: 67% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 183774797
Overall Average: 48% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.01 0.01 0.01 0.01
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DIANA
They have some really interesting things they are working on.
SMALL FLOAT only 26 Million shares, and only .15 Cents. When the volume increases, the stock moves...
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
ANOTHER NANOTECHNOLOGY COMPANY, I JUST BOUGHT is NSOL. NUCLEAR SOLUTIONS.They have some really interesting things they are working on.
SMALL FLOAT only 26 Million shares, and only .15 Cents. When the volume increases, the stock moves...
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
http://iw.thomsonfn.com/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=ctkh&symbol=ctkhANOTHER 1 % Institutional.. ??? STILL wondering about this. '
Either way, every time i see this, the days end up positive. So I dont know what institutions are alowwed to buy pinksheets, or maybe hedgefunds, but if its true that is a plus.
http://www.alphatrade.com/com.alphatrade.servlet.http.quote.TimeSaleServletRELOAD this link twice.
THIS IS POSITIVE. HEDGE FUNDS PREDOMINATLY TRADE PINKS AND OTC'S. RISK V GAIN.
CTKH HAS REALLY HAD A GREAT WEEK. HELD IT'S OWN THRU A LITTLE PROFIT TAKING. GOT SOME GOOD STRONG HOLDERS ON THIS STOCK.
FRIDAY'S ARE HISTORICALLY GREAT DAYS FOR CTKH. GOOD LUCK TO US ALL.
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DIANA
Go with the eagles!
Shows you something..
CTKH.pk is moving up nicely on good volume ...
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Press Release Source: Cetek Technologies Inc.
Cetek Shareholders' Report for the Fourth Quarter 2003
Friday January 30, 10:09 am ET
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 30, 2004--Cetek Technologies Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CTKH - News) reports that the fourth quarter of 2003 was the first profitable quarter in over four years. Revenues for the year 2003 were 185% higher than the year 2002.
Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry.
Larger sintering furnaces, in the ceramic area, will come on line the first quarter of 2004, hence increasing available capacity by threefold. Having this increased capacity will have a favorable impact on the response time to customers. So far, Cetek has been able to maintain all shipments on schedule.
Cetek's primary customer from England, for whom we are building special furnaces, has issued Cetek Technologies more orders for these large furnaces. This product has generated strong demand in the United States and overseas. Substantial sales for this product line are expected throughout 2004 and into 2005.
Also, Cetek Technologies is proud to announce it has initiated its stock buyback program for the benefit of the shareholders. No information will be disclosed until it is completed, and no specific time limit has been set.
Cetek Technologies Inc.'s CEO, Fayiz Hilal, stated, "I am pleased with the quarterly results and very optimistic about Cetek's business landscape and I think it will be another rewarding and profitable year. I thank all shareholders for their continuous support. We will endeavor to keep shareholders informed of our efforts in developing Cetek into a significant player in this industry. We believe these recent events will lead to increased shareholder value."
This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. In particular, when used in the preceding discussion, the words "believe," "expects," "projects," "may" and similar conditional expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the act and subject to the safe harbor created by the act. Except for historical information, all of the statements, expectations and assumptions contained in the foregoing are forward-looking statements that involve a number of risks and uncertainties.
GO CTKH....
Go CTKH!
Cetek Shareholders` Report for the Fourth Quarter 2003
January 30, 2004 10:09:00 (ET)
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y., Jan 30, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Cetek Technologies Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CTKH) reports that the fourth quarter of 2003 was the first profitable quarter in over four years. Revenues for the year 2003 were 185% higher than the year 2002.
Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry.
Larger sintering furnaces, in the ceramic area, will come on line the first quarter of 2004, hence increasing available capacity by threefold. Having this increased capacity will have a favorable impact on the response time to customers. So far, Cetek has been able to maintain all shipments on schedule.
Cetek's primary customer from England, for whom we are building special furnaces, has issued Cetek Technologies more orders for these large furnaces. This product has generated strong demand in the United States and overseas. Substantial sales for this product line are expected throughout 2004 and into 2005.
Also, Cetek Technologies is proud to announce it has initiated its stock buyback program for the benefit of the shareholders. No information will be disclosed until it is completed, and no specific time limit has been set.
Cetek Technologies Inc.'s CEO, Fayiz Hilal, stated, "I am pleased with the quarterly results and very optimistic about Cetek's business landscape and I think it will be another rewarding and profitable year. I thank all shareholders for their continuous support. We will endeavor to keep shareholders informed of our efforts in developing Cetek into a significant player in this industry. We believe these recent events will lead to increased shareholder value."
This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. In particular, when used in the preceding discussion, the words "believe," "expects," "projects," "may" and similar conditional expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the act and subject to the safe harbor created by the act. Except for historical information, all of the statements, expectations and assumptions contained in the foregoing are forward-looking statements that involve a number of risks and uncertainties.
SOURCE: Cetek Technologies Inc.
"Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry."
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
WOW what a wild ride today holding strong and long
Clay
PEOPLE ARE JUST SECURING FREE TRADE POSITION (FOR THOSE WHO PURCHASED IN THE .004 LEVEL) AND SOME PROFIT TAKING.
I AGREE--UP HILL FROM HERE. LOTS OF POTENTIAL AT A GREAT PRICE.
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DIANA
Rico Mambo.
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quote:
Originally posted by gpmac:
LOOK! LOOK! LOOK! FROM THE 4TH QUARTER REPORT!"Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry."
quote:
Originally posted by Anna:
.006 Anybody have any thoughts?
YEAH, KEEP GOOD NEWS OUT OF THE PRESS??
MM'S ARE IN CONTROL. VERY SMALL SELLS IN THE 25,000 RANGE TAKE IT DOWN. THIS MAKES WANNA BEE'S PANIC SELL. JMHO
IT'S OK...WHEN THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED IT WILL BE RIGHT BACK UP TO .007+
JMHO
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DIANA
Thoughts?
quote:
Originally posted by Randy803:
Diana I am glad to here that, I am a wanna be but I ALWAYS listen when you post so I am going to hold strong at .0069 and hope for more!
RANDY,
I HOPE I DID NOT OFFEND ANYONE. CERTAINLY DID NOT MEAN TO. SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO JUST START TRADING PANIC EASILY. THAT IS COMMON IN PENNIES AND UNDERSTANDABLE. BACK UP TO .0062 NOW AND I THINK IT WILL RECOVER NICELY.
ANOTHER REASON FOR SELLING. PEOPLE OFTEN MARGIN OR SHORT COMPOSITE STOCKS. WHEN THEY ARE SHORT ON MONEY TO COVER THAT CALL (HAVE TO PAY UP BY 2:00 ON FRIDAY) THEY OFTEN SELL SHARES OF OTHER STOCKS IN THEIR PORTFOLIO TO COVER MARGIN CALLS. JMHO.
NOW .0064
PLEASE DO NOT PUT A LOT OF STOCK IN ANY ONE OPINION. LIKE A-SS HOLES WE ALL HAVE ONE.
FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT YOUR CHOICE OF STOCK PICKS BASED ON YOUR OWN DUE. THIS DOES ALEVIATE SOME OF THE STRESS ASSOCIATED WITH TRADING PENNIES. LOL THAT AND A BOTTLE OF ZANAX AND GLASS OF WATER BY YOUR COMPUTER AT ALL TIMES.
GOOD LUCK TRADING.
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DIANA
I'm in the same boat as you and I second everything you said. I'd say I'm definitely hooked. There's such a mountain of stuff to learn. I guess it just takes time and experience. I also appreciate being able to learn from the experienced like Diana, Uncle Milty and many others on this board.
-Scott
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE...
WWW.DRUDGEREPORT.COM
HERE'S A CLIP OF THE NEWS GOING ALL OVER THE WORLD...
Economic Growth Below Expectations
Jan 30, 11:56 AM (ET)
By Glenn Somerville
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth slowed to a 4 percent annual rate in the closing three months of 2003, less than half the third-quarter pace as consumers curbed their spending, the Commerce Department reported on Friday.
quote:
Originally posted by gpmac:
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE DROP THIS AFTERNOON, THIS WAS CAUSED BY THE "U.S. EXPECTATIONS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH" NEWS THIS AFTERNOON...
IT'S NOT JUST CTKH.
ALL STOCKS ARE DOWN....TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE...
WWW.DRUDGEREPORT.COMHERE'S A CLIP OF THE NEWS GOING ALL OVER THE WORLD...
Economic Growth Below ExpectationsJan 30, 11:56 AM (ET)
By Glenn Somerville
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth slowed to a 4 percent annual rate in the closing three months of 2003, less than half the third-quarter pace as consumers curbed their spending, the Commerce Department reported on Friday.
GOOD CALL!! THIS IS EXACTLY HOW WE HELP EACH OTHER. WITH GOOD STRAIGHT UP INFORMATION THAT MAKES SENSE. ALSO EARNING IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. A LOT OF MARKET AND PORTFOLIO SHIFTING.
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DIANA
I think no news today would have been good news. Bulls rushed in as is our nature but ran out of fuel.
I will be researching this new pattern, or what it looks like it will be at the end of trading today. Not one I am familiar with.
Any chartist out there have comments.
quote:
Originally posted by Randy803:
I am learning day by day. I am also learning to do DD but I find following the smart traders like yourself and a couple others seems to keep me out of the deep troubled waters for now. Thanks for everything Diana and I was not offended I AM a wanna be headed to an IS hopefully. LOL
The best thing one can learn IS WHEN TO SELL & not let greed take over.....This is very hard & I as a newbie learning a lot from this site.
There is always a lot of buy signals but it is very hard to detect a sell signal, at least for me.
My rule - Gets my attention once above 50%...wait to see if it get to 100% & it is a stock I want to day trade, I should sell. Well, I did not do it for SFII, in @ 0.0016, hit high of 0.0035 (should have sold), today @ 0.0017....
So other lesson follow your own rules you have set & do not let greed take over it.....
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
YEH
I hate to be to expressive R21 bit my head off a couple times last week, but I'm happy on this one.
VAN,
ONLY WHEN YOU THROW A LOW BLOW!! LOL
NOW LETS MAKE SOME MONEY ON THIS BEEEAAACH.
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DIANA
SJD
SJD
My biggest concern is that the buyback is not finished which means it's not in the companies interest for the stock price to rise. I wonder when they plan to finish this?
Then there are the questions.
1. 180% of what? pretty meaningless number.
2. We know Nano's hot, but will Cetek get any of the 4 billion in federal money?
3. While it would seem the furnace business is strong, what's happening with the fuel cell and CNT part of the business. What's the projected revenue from furnace sales.
Jeff
WAY UNDERVALUED, I cant name any stocks under a penny that are making money.
AND IN NANOTECHNOLOGY ON TOP OF THAT.
#1- alot of people bought in = for the anticipation of a news release, and sold on the release to take profits.
ALOT OF PROFIT TAKING.
#2 their is strong support in the 5's.
I do not think it will break below the 5's.
#3, the CHART is extremely bullish.
CONSTAND uptrend.
POPS up , retraces to fill gap, and then pops up even higher. THEN retraces to fill gap and again pops higher.
THIS time, we were hit with profit takers, and will likely find support in which I believe we did, and then pop up to a new high above .0079.
This is a beautiful stock to own long term.
I feel we will run hard soon, but that is my opinion. GOOD luck guys.
Also, in regards to the reason that they did not say their exact numbers could be of one of two reasons I believe. #1 is because it is possible that it may have something to do with SEC regualtions because they are a pink sheet stock.(Any help in this area is appreciated) #2 could possibly be because they are still buying back stocks and if they release a number they may not be able to get these shares as cheap as they want.
This is just my opinion and I'd like to know what fellow investors think of this theory.
Have a great weekend everybody!!
*** GO PATS!! ***
SJD
Added to NANO TECHNOLOGY FORUM JANUARY 19th GUYS.
http://www.nanovip.com/directory/Detailed/912.php
STO is above 80 with 5 & 10 DMA supporting PPS, a good signal for possible breakout.
PPS is suported by 32 DMA also.
PPS is crawling near the upper bollinger band, a good signal.
The chart has clearly formed an Ascending Triangle with downslope volume, which indicates an upper breakout.
I think, today news was pretty good but investor really wanted to know more about the rumored deals with Motorola, Samsung, etc. Their earnings seems to be very positive.
This should breakout in the next coming days.... Charts support it & PR supports it. No need to worry about an R/S either since they have confirmed their buyback now in two PRs.
I will not risk this stock in day trading..I think our patience has finally paid off.....
GLTA
GREAT INFO WITH A SOLID BASIS FOR YOUR OPINION. THANKS FOR THE DUE.
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DIANA
CMF chart 1/30 looks like 12/15. Indicator has dropped below zero. The bar for the day closed in the bottom half of its range and is a bearish engulfing line. Significance may not be great following a consolidation for the week rather than strong uptrend but could signal a slight retrace.
CCI indicator does not reveal much to me. There is no divergence and being near to zero does not indicate either overbought or oversold. Is there another interpretation?
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=CTKH&pagesource=texpert&grid=Y&data=A&code=BSTK&ov1=66
This chart simply shows last 6 months. Definitely bearish overall but last bar again is a bearish engulfing line. No long term significance but could indicate a slight retrace for next 1 – 3 days.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=CTKH,uu[h,a]daclyiay[df][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G
This certainly looks good and shows the inevitable rise this stock will take.
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=CTKH&num1=5&cobrand=&mode=stock
Is this a free or subscription site? Looks like good info.
http://quotes.barchart.com/texsnap.asp?sym=ctkh
I do not get anything new here.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=ctkh&sid=0&o_symb=ctkh
Sto = Crossover down, typically a sell signal.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2157
Williams – I believe trading recommendations are based on divergences. I do not see that here. Is there another interpretation?
Bollinger Bands – I am at my early study of these. I read that significant moves usually occur after the bands tighten. Also, when prices move outside the bands implies a continuation of the current trend. I suppose the current trend is based on ones trading timeline. No question this shows intermediate and long term uptrend with usual and minor corrections.
OBV – Definitely showing where the smart money is going IMO.
I really enjoy this type of analysis and learning experience. Any more thoughts or comments?
wyz
Correction on comment for Charts3, I meant overall bullish. Also thanks for the great company info on that last site.
wyz
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Originally posted by offshoretrader:
I would like to suggest to the group that we all put in a GTC Limit order for CTKH at $1.00 Thanks, offshore
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Originally posted by cyberrat67:
If we all put in a sell order, then the shares can't be "loaned" out to the people going short on CTKH
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I dont fully understand... could you please clarify?
cvtech
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MM's can actually sell uncommitted shares that they don't actually have. If you put in a GTC sell price, they can't use them forcing them to actually trade only stocks they own or other uncommitted stocks.
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KEEP THOSE GTC ORDERS COMMING IN!!!
quote:
Originally posted by For you, one dollar!:
Just a reminder to all the new folks joining this forum....
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ON THE RECORD: NANOTECHNOLOGY
Unlocking the smallest secrets
Sunday, February 1, 2004
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It's no surprise that the Bay Area -- with its concentration of computer scientists, venture capitalists and biotechnology giants -- is a leading contender in the emerging field of nanotechnology.
One sign of the region's prominence is that two of the scant dozen guests in the Oval Office for President Bush's signing of the $3.7 billion nanotech funding package in December were local executives.
But could nanotechnology -- the design of materials about 50,000 times smaller than the width of a human hair -- bring changes in medicine, computing and energy, to name just a few arenas, that now seem like the realm of science fiction?
The Chronicle invited three of the most prominent leaders in the field -- all from the Bay Area -- to join in a freewheeling discussion and give readers an insider's view of nanotechnology's potential and possible pitfalls. The panelists:
-- Venture capitalist Steve Jurvetson, 36, one of the Oval Office invitees, is an investment manager on the vanguard of bets on nanotechnology startups.
-- Don Eigler, 50, of IBM's Almaden Research Center in San Jose, performed a seminal feat of nanoscale precision in 1989, arranging 35 individual xenon atoms to spell out the IBM logo. He now explores ways to make transistors a few atoms wide.
-- UC Berkeley chemistry Professor Paul Alivisatos, 44, directs the Molecular Foundry at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, where researchers use powerful new tools to advance the molecular control of materials. Alivisatos is a pioneer in the construction of nanoscale semiconductor crystals that can be used to make next-generation solar cells, or minuscule fluorescent labels that may some day help surgeons distinguish tumors from healthy tissue.
Their discussion ranged across technical marvels that could revolutionize our lives, the Bay Area's place in this developing field, the fascinating collision of computer technology and biotech, as well as the fear that self- reproducing nano-devices could grow out of control and reduce the world to a mass of "gray goo.''.
Q: Let's say you're talking to somebody who doesn't know anything about nanotechnology and you're trying to explain it.
Jurvetson: I might start with, why should you care? I would say that nanotech's worth paying attention to no matter what your background because if you look far enough into the future, it'll impact just about any industry you can think of. It depends on whether you're talking 50 years or 100 years from now. And the question is: When will it affect your industry? So it's worth thinking about.
I would make maybe even a more bold statement that, as we look back from the future to the present day, we're likely to describe this as a major epoch of history, like the industrial revolution or other major transitions that technology has introduced into society. It has that sort of impact, much more so than if you look to the Internet or any other major technology subject of the recent past.
Q: How do you define it so that people understand what it is?
Jurvetson: We tend to define it as the control and manipulation of matter down to the nanoscale, meaning a billionth of a meter -- the domain of DNA and carbon nanotubes, generally speaking, something that's 700 times smaller than the wavelength of red light, somewhere around 50,000 to 80,000 times smaller than the width of a human hair.
Q: What is special about being that small?
Jurvetson: It's precisely because the properties of matter that emerge at that scale are not observable or manipulable at a larger scale. Statistical physics or Newtonian physics gives way to quantum physics. Very unusual properties of matter emerge at that scale, and you can think about building products in a very different way. You can think about interfacing to biology in a very different way.
The innovations we care about as investors tend to come from the edge, away from the mainstream of thought, away from the mainstream of research. This allows you to do all kinds of new experiments people wouldn't have thought of before ... programming bacteria to assemble things, modifying the genetic code of viruses to do assembly of some non-biological construct.
Q: I'm wondering if someone can talk about that a little bit because we're not talking about a change in degree. When we're talking about nanotech, we're jumping down a whole different level. Could you explain what some of those properties are?
Jurvetson: One of the first companies we met in the nanotech field was (a maker of) simple powders, a fine powder of something.
If you take aluminum, like we have in all these aluminum cans, and bring it down to about a 20- or 30-nanometer grain size, the material properties dramatically change. It explodes spontaneously in air. It becomes a rocket fuel catalyst -- particles of plain old aluminum.
The reason is that the surface- area-to-volume ratio is changed so dramatically from its normal bulk form that it becomes a highly energetic material and is used routinely in a variety of rocket fuels.
Q: What were the potential gains from nanotech that led an established information technology company like IBM to invest in nanotech research?
Eigler: The history of our industry is one of shrinking things. We shrink the things that do computation. We can look at the kind of functionality that we can deliver to our customers today with our computers and how we could possibly deliver greater functionality at a cost point that really helps our customers get done what they need to get done. The answer is to keep making the stuff smaller.
You could say that we're already doing it in our structures in some sense. If you look at the size of some of those structures that go into a modern semiconductor chip, some of those dimensions are at the nanometer length scale.
But generally that's not what we're talking about here. I think most of us would agree we're talking about something that is substantially smaller than that and perhaps even made in a fundamentally different way.
But it is dead center in our headlights that if we want to keep the IT industry driving forward at the pace that it's been at, or even close to the pace that it's been at, we have to become masters of building small things.
The key is the onset of functionality -- useful functionality.
Q: And what does that mean?
Eigler: Atoms themselves can do a lot of tricks. They're pretty useful, but it's hard to have an atom alone be a functional component of a computer.
It's hard to see how we would use individual atoms as either the logical operators or the means for storing data or moving data around. There might be tricks where that could be done.
But we know that if we take bunches of atoms and put them together, we can get to the point where we can have something that does a logical operation on data. That's what I would call the onset of functionality when it comes to computation.
(Editor's note: Eigler's research is at the forefront of an emerging field dubbed molecular electronics -- the creation of computers or other electronic devices using transistors or switches no larger than nanoscale molecules. He can already claim a spot in the nanotechnology history books for a 1989 feat demonstrating that materials can be constructed atom by atom. Using high-tech microscopes invented by IBM, he spelled out the IBM logo with precisely placed xenon atoms.)
Alivisatos: If you think about the semiconductor industry coming down and down and down in size, the ability to make molecules of increasing complexity is becoming greater (with) more and more atoms that you can control.
When you think about what's right in the middle, in the living system, in the person, things like proteins, enzymes -- those are the elementary functional units of living systems. We are slowly learning more and more how to make those kinds of structures and how to integrate those structures into artificial technologies.
So one of the reasons it's very exciting for us to have an increased ability to pattern matter on very small scales is that it's actually the scale that matches the sizes of the basic functional units in living systems.
(Editor's note: Alivisatos is a pioneer in innovations that combine artificially engineered devices with biological elements. The nanoscale semiconductor crystals, called quantum dots, that were developed in his lab emit different colors of light depending on their size. The various size quantum dots can be linked to biological groups that bind only to certain bodily tissue types or cellular structures. This yields a multicolored image that distinguishes different biological structures from each other. The technology may some day guide surgeons as they remove tumors, leaving healthy tissues intact.)
Q: What kind of impact is nanotechnology going to have on Silicon Valley? Ten years from now, 20 years from now, is there going to be Nanotech Valley?
Jurvetson: Compared to some other technology trends, like the Internet or software or wireless data services, things of that sort, there's a bit less concentration in the valley from our perspective, than for these prior technology waves.
Why might that be? In the case of the Internet, there's a human capital element and just the sheer ability to ramp up quickly and scale up, if you will, the head count of an organization -- be that at an EBay or a Yahoo or a Hotmail. It's a lot easier to do that here, or at least it was and continues to be, than in other regions of the world or the United States.
In nanotech, it's not quite the same thing. The human capital element is very different. The people with deep domain expertise usually have performed a substantial amount of research in some university setting, from our perspective, before they would set out to form a new company.
So from the entrepreneurial side of the equation, the formation of new ventures tends to correlate with university spin-offs. Second to that are government labs, but in both cases they've usually (done) federally funded research for a number of years and (spent) a substantial amount of money before they ever enter the startup phase. That's very different from the Internet.
The thing, though, about nanotech is that because a lot of these are federally funded, they tend to be striped around the United States. There are many centers of excellence. It's not concentrated. There's a variety of reasons why distribution tends to occur in terms of research grants and projects.
As for the nanotech companies we've invested in so far, the ones most people would agree are nanotech companies, not one is in Silicon Valley, even though we're based here, and that would be the easiest and the most likely place to look.
They're all over the place, from Chicago to Austin to Denver to L.A. They're also dispersed internationally. There's a lot of great work going on around the world.
(Editor's note: Jurvetson's firm, Draper Fisher Jurvetson of Redwood City, is recognized as one of the foremost venture capital units investing in nanotech startups. A Stanford graduate in engineering and business, Jurvetson saw seven of his communications chip designs fabricated as an R&D engineer at Hewlett-Packard. The veteran of VC investment in high tech was recently named Small Times magazine's 2003 Advocate of the Year for nanotechnology and microtechnology.)
Eigler: I suspect that the Bay Area is as well or better positioned to be a leader in future nanotechnology and the various ways in which those technologies will be deployed, so that it will end up being the leader.
Let me tell you why I think that's possible, if not likely, when I think about the space for innovation and where new things might come out, new things that we can't even begin to describe. That space for innovation is really between the areas that we have today, somewhere between computation and biotech, or between biotech and chemistry.
All of those disciplines get very interesting at the nanometer-length scale. So we're all going to be driven to it. Now where in the world do you find double E's (electrical engineers), material scientists, biologists, physicists, chemists, all packed up in the great universities and all churning away like crazy?
My crystal ball tells me that if I were to try to identify one spot on the globe that is as likely or more likely than any other spot to take a leadership position in future nanotechnologies, I'd say the Bay Area.
Alivisatos: Add one more, which is the tremendous importance of the venture capital community that's here in the area and the fact that the science community here has a tradition of becoming very involved in taking inventions from the labs into the marketplace.
Eigler: And the mind-set of a community, of a dynamic, multicultural, multi-valued community that is interested in new things and they're not scared of it. It's a good recipe.
Q: You mentioned that nanotechnology (research at IBM) is a natural outgrowth of this drive toward miniaturization. Were you also at the same time inspired by what molecular biologists were finding in living things?
Eigler: The thing that I've thought of many times over the course of the last several years is to look at biological systems and to recognize that there's a hierarchy of length scales. (Editor's note: Eigler is referring to the wide variety of size scales that make up living things, from nanometer- scale cellular units that produce the chemical energy needed to move muscles, to the muscles themselves and nerve fibers that can extend a meter or more.)
You see different functionalities at different length scales, but they all add together to create the overall functionality of the biological organism. And those functionalities are absolutely extraordinary.
Sometimes when I give lectures, I like to take out some cute little black- and-white cows and start juggling them in front of my audience. When I ask the audience whether what they're seeing is ordinary or extraordinary, and they look at it as just a bozo scientist juggling, they're supposed to think, "Well, that's ordinary." Every bozo scientist can juggle.
But what I want is for them to see me as just a bunch of atoms stuck together. And to ask, how is it that a bunch of atoms stuck together can juggle?
In order to explain juggling, you have to talk about functionalities at length scales that, for instance, are at the order of a foot long, like my forearm and its motion while I'm juggling, all the way down to the molecular scale, and even changes that happen within a molecule, in the transport of energy within a cell, and muscles to contract, and everything else.
I use that as an inspiration. I use that as a way of thinking about all the incredible kinds of functionalities that we could get if we could design and engineer things in new ways at those smaller-length scales.
Q: Molecular biologists have gone just so far with their training in biology. Now you have this infusion of engineers (getting interested in the machinery of the cell). What can they add? How can they assist molecular biologists to take their science even further?
Jurvetson: They can add a lot. I think it's inspirational in both directions.
The decoding of the human genome, a sort of digital representation of our biology, opens it up further to computer scientists to look at the (DNA) code, look for error correction code and see things perhaps that the pure geneticist would not have seen, bringing in the disciplines and the frameworks and the pattern-recognition skills of adjacent disciplines. So let me say it more clearly. I think IT is driving biology. It is what makes biology accrue more quickly. Similarly biology is inspiring IT. And nanotech is in the center of all that.
Eigler: Biology creates an inspiration for us. If I was asked, if somebody came to me and said, "Your job is to build a nanometer scale monster truck; get to work,'' what would I do?
I would turn to biology. I would study how biology has evolved to have these beautiful rotary motors that it has. I would either grab those rotary motors and attach them to my little nano-monster truck, or I would try to find a way to mimic what biology has taught me about how to have a successful rotary motor. (I'd) get four of these and stick them on my two axles, and I'd have my little nano-monster truck.
Q: Since nanotech can require multiple disciplines (engineering, physics, molecular biology, materials science), is either our industry or our higher education system structured so that development is going to happen in any organized way?
Alivisatos: The fact is there's really only one subject of science. We have this breakdown into subjects that people have done in order to make progress on difficult problems. But it's an entirely artificial set of breakdowns into subjects. There's no real intrinsic breakdown.
One of the reasons why I think nanotechnology is evolving so well is that it's not a division. It's a unification of disciplines.
In terms of education, it's difficult for a young person because they do need to learn all of these vocabularies, and if they learn all of them, they'll probably know everything very superficially. So for the education system, it's a tremendous challenge. Eventually it'll be a big challenge for industries.
But it's fun, It means that we are at an important moment in the history of science and technology. Instead of breaking pieces apart, we're putting them all together. It's great.
Q: Biotechnology brought in a whole lot of ethical issues with Frankenfoods and whatnot. What will nanotechnology bring?
Jurvetson: I think we will have cut our teeth with biotech issues long before nanotech poses any similar threat. Even though it's worthwhile and very important to be thinking about these now, I think whatever you or a reader may fear is more likely to play out time-wise in a biological domain that might have nothing to do with nanotech, before anything of comparable complexity emerges in the nanotech world.
Alivisatos: There's the question of environmental or potential environmental or toxicological impacts of nanoscale materials, and that's a question that we now could engage in and answer. And we should.
Ten years ago, it would've been premature. It's only very recently that one would begin to say there are some materials that have enough promise and are close enough to a real application that it would be worthwhile to try to answer those kinds of questions.
So that's imminent, and my guess is what will happen is some materials are going to be benign, and that we can almost say for sure because we've evolved in an environment full of nanoscale materials.
It's part of how nature makes things. So we know that we'll be able to make materials that way that are benign. But we have to make sure the artificial ones (are safe). There's a good prospect to work together, rather than having an adversarial relationship, because many things we do in nanotechnology can have health benefits or improve energy efficiency, goals that we all would share in order to make the world more environmentally stable and sustainable.
Then there's this sort of feeling of unease that many people have, that science and technology are becoming darned powerful, and "gosh, what is that going to unleash on the world?"
That's a more diffuse feeling, and in the nanotechnology arena, to my knowledge, there is nothing specific that you can really grab hold of there and say, "This is the thing that you should really worry about."
But the other day I was working in my study at home, and my kids came running up the stairs, "Dad, Dad, the bad guy's taking over the world. He's a nanotechnologist.''
Q: Eric Drexler has raised the specter of the "gray goo,'' (a nightmare scenario in which self-assembling nano-bots or tiny nano-elements proliferate out of control and turn the world into a mass of amorphous slime).
(Editor's note: Drexler is the Bay Area author of a visionary nanotechnology book, "Engines of Creation,'' and a proponent of the idea that nanoscale materials may someday be self-assembling or self-replicating. Drexler advocates advances in such "molecular manufacturing,'' but also warns it could unleash environmental consequences.)
Alivisatos: First of all, nobody knows how to make artificial material that can replicate itself. There's no example of that. And I'm not sure that any scientist I know of thinks that they can do that. Now, can you harness biological systems to make harm? Yes, that's (possible with) biotechnology. That's been the issue we've been talking about for 20 years. But in terms of what this field of nanotechnology has to do with creating new materials by patterning on small-length scales, we don't have an ability to make them self- replicating.
Eigler: The kinds of things that we've been talking about, about patterning matter on a nanometer length scale ... in terms of what we would be introducing into the world, it's no different than what the chemical industry or the pharmaceutical industry has been doing for eons.
If the chemical industry is going to be creating a new chemical and manufacturing any quantity of it, should its hazards to the biosphere be understood? I think everybody in the room would say, yes, it should be understood, and it should be dealt with accordingly. And the same with pharmaceuticals.
I don't see that what we're talking about in the nanosphere is any different at all.
Q: A long time ago there was a science fiction story about scientists who engineered a microorganism to digest oil because of oil spills, but the microorganism also digested plastic. So the world collapsed because all the different plastic parts in subways and planes and other structures turned into mush. Can you understand that kind of concern on the part of people who see science barreling toward this kind of convergence of living things and non- living things?
Alivisatos: But that again is a straight biotech engineering kind of thing, right?
Q: But in nanotechnology, when you're talking about taking a living element and sort of hijacking it for another purpose (such as engineering viruses to grow nanowires), isn't there the possibility that by doing things like that you can create unintended consequences?
Alivisatos: I agree with what you just said. I just don't think there's anything we have in terms of an ability that's different in that sense in qualitative ways. In the sense that we make artificial matter, we don't have an ability to make, as far as I know, artificial things that live. Most of these scenarios that we describe involve making something artificial that somehow takes off. That's the kind of thing you're describing. That's the sort of fear, and there's no example.
Eigler: No scientist I know of who's an honest scientist will ever say that that is impossible.
If I can describe that a little bit more -- an honest scientist has to admit that he or she has never thought of all possibilities. The issue that you bring up, there's an analogy that I use: Prior to the voyages of Columbus, there were stories about sea monsters and serpents out there in the Atlantic Ocean that could destroy whole ships, do all kinds of havoc. Did anyone bring a sea monster back and show it to Queen Isabella? Did anybody say, "I actually saw these great sea monsters?" Where was the proof of the sea monsters?
The problem is, imagine a conversation. There's two sailors standing on the shores of Portugal looking out on the Atlantic. One is convinced of the sea monsters, and says, "Look, we all know about big fish in the ocean. They go up to the scale of whales. If they go from little fish to whales, why not beyond whales to giant sea monsters that can eat whole ships?"
There's a certain rationality to that argument. The other sailor turns to the first and says, "Show me the monsters.'' There is no proof that the sailor who is skeptical about the monsters can give the other sailor to demonstrate that there cannot be monsters.
We're always going to be faced with this discrepancy between proving something is dangerous and proving something is safe.
Alivisatos: You have to balance all the benefits as well as your assessment of risk. In the case of nanotechnology, let's say that it turns out that we really develop a way of detecting cancers at a much earlier stage. I think there's a very good chance that things like that will emerge from this field.
Q: Can you give some examples? I was reading about a scientific team using gold nano-particles to which they attach organic groups that recognize tumor cells. Once they attach to the tumor, shining light on the tissues makes the gold particle heat up and kill the cancerous cells.
Alivisatos: That's an example of an area that's kind of in development. We're working with some of these (nano) particles that can be used for observing luminescence, with colleagues at UCSF, and we can introduce those inside cells.
There's one labeling experiment, and they can use it to track phenomena. They can see in this case a set of healthy breast cells in culture, then introduce cancer cells and watch them go in and try to attack the healthy ones. They can do all that with one labeling experiment at the beginning and follow something for 12 weeks. They couldn't do that before they had those artificial materials.
Q: A lot of nanotech skeptics out there are saying, "Is this a business? Is there a business model here?" Yet the kind of discoveries, should they become in wider use, seems to be gigantic. Is it just that we're in a very early stage?
Alivisatos: Yes. It's just that we're at a very early stage.
You know the famous Faraday story. In front of the Royal Society he demonstrated there was the second law of electricity, and he was asked, of what use is it? And he says, "I don't know, but some day they'll be taxing it. ''
(Editor's note: This refers to a possibly apocryphal story about the renowned 19th century chemist and physicist Michael Faraday. The quip was his purported response to a prime minister or chancellor who didn't grasp the utility of one of his electromagnetic discoveries.)
It's early.
Eigler: Very, very early.
Q: Of the companies coming to you looking for funding, what particular areas are most of them going into? Does there appear to be one area of interest, like computation?
Jurvetson: Initially it was, as I mentioned, a series of bulk materials companies (making large quantities of fine powders). We still see those. They don't catch our attention as much because once you've seen 30 or 40 of any one type of company, it's less exciting and unique.
Powdered aluminum, powdered alumina, powdered titanium dioxide for sunscreens -- there's been a variety of companies that were just making the bulk powder and then trying to sell it to other companies that were already in related industries and needed a finer grain size along a gradient.
Nothing revolutionary. Slightly revolutionary manufacturing processes, but the products are fairly well understood by the customers, and that's why we didn't invest in them because it didn't seem like it was a change-the-world kind of breakthrough.
The next category of companies -- and these are also some of the earliest to revenue -- are in the tools sector, people who are developing new mechanisms for doing research and development. Eventually they hope to mature into tools for manufacturing.
In terms of venture propositions, though, we're trying to look to the three- to five-year horizon. If it's an obvious moneymaker today, it's again a little less exciting. We'll invest in a few of those, but we're really trying to look a little bit farther out, but not, let's say, 20 years out, before you get your first customer.
So that has largely for us clustered on molecular electronics and energy, and secondarily around things touching upon medicine.
So molecular electronics was one of the first areas that was a square hit with what we're looking for, for a variety of reasons: There's near-term revenue prospects, near-term meaning three to five years. They can have a huge impact, like revolutionary impact, in the long term, meaning they can be the succession to CMOS (the most widely used type of integrated circuit for digital processors and memories).
In energy, there's everything from energy storage in batteries (to) new solid-state batteries, new solar cells like Nanosys (Inc. of Palo Alto) and Konarka (Technologies Inc. of Massachusetts) and others who are finding novel ways to manufacture solar cells.
Generally speaking, if you control matter more precisely, you can get more efficiency out of any process. Then there is a variety of near-term opportunities in drug delivery and eventually therapeutics. But diagnostics, sensors, initially, because you don't have to go through the same hoops for one of those products as you do for a therapeutic agent.
There's a company in Chicago, Arryx (Inc.), that uses thousands of laser tweezers to grab cells. They can literally, without ripping into the cells, weigh the DNA inside the cell, determine if that's going to be -- if it's a sperm -- a male or female baby that this would create, for animal husbandry applications. If you want a milk cow, you want it to be female. If you want a beef cow, you want it to be male. They can do all that without physically penetrating the cell membrane. These are unusual techniques that one can start to explore with these new tools.
And so, in biology there are a lot of early applications where you don't have to go through the (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) cycle to get there. Regulatory environments always slow the pace of progress, rightly so. And so I think it's an unpredictable delay on what would be the bold new world of therapeutics and nanomedicine, which I think is a long way off for a variety of reasons.
Q: From the investment side, is it too early for the individual investor to be involved?
Jurvetson: I think the sane answer is yes. There are very few public stocks, for example, and that's where the average investor would look, so you don't want to.
If (you) think pretty broad-definition, you include companies like IBM that have a very large initiative here, but clearly it's not a pure play. A lot of the work is in large companies and private companies, so you can't really pinpoint investment yet.
Q: But why should investors educate themselves about it now?
Jurvetson: To understand how it will affect the semiconductor industry and a variety of other industries that they may be investing in. The energy industry. Technology business increasingly becomes difficult to predict because technology itself is accelerating in change, and human nature and markets are more stagnant and static. But the dynamic engine of technological innovation continues unabated. And so disruption, change, changes in paradigms, new entrants -- this theme I think will accelerate.
Q: How important is government funding in the United States to establish a strong position in nano?
Alivisatos: I just want to say how important I think it is for people who are trying to understand the world around them to start to hear more about this area because it's going to impact their lives. Stepping back from that to take a really long historical perspective, Don (Eigler) was the first person to take an atom, pick it up and put it down, and he spelled IBM with atoms. I really think that is an event in civilization to be able to do that. That's the fundamental building block -- an atom. It is just a tremendously important field in terms of our ability to understand the world around us and to interact with it. And that's a big deal for humanity.
Jurvetson: Not to mention the future of the U.S. economy probably depends on our collective fluency.
Alivisatos: The government is investing heavily because the case has been made by scientists and industry that this is going to be very important and pay off over the long term. It has not been a partisan issue in any way, and it's been an issue in which the scientists have come together. There haven't been cases where one group of scientists are against and another for, because it is a unifying field. I think it's great that the investment is coming in, and over time it will bear lots of fruit.
Eigler: I think it's essential ... it's only the government and the largest companies that can afford to make the investment in the leading edge research.
Jurvetson: Absolutely, we have to come in much later, after (something that) was an incredibly risky proposition bears some fruit in terms of a prototype or some products. That's when we first invest. As I mentioned earlier, every one of our nanotech and related companies was first federally funded in a university setting or in a government lab.
Q: Is there significant work being done in other countries?
Alivisatos: Oh, sure. First of all, I think it's important to say that it's a global field of research and the United States is an important player, but there's great activity going on all around the world. There are large initiatives in Europe, in Asia, that are extremely effective.
Q: Nanotechnology has been described as "the science that can change everything.'' How much of those changes can we even imagine right now, and how much of it is just beyond imagination?
Eigler: I'm too old to imagine it. Steve, you're probably too old to imagine it.
Jurvetson: I try to maintain a childlike maturity.
Eigler: I'll just speak for myself then. Although I try not to be, I am saddled with the limitations of viewing things the way I've viewed them in the past or the way other people of the past have viewed them. It's always been this way: Younger generations have carried less of the baggage of older generations, and so they'll see things new and fresh. That's where real innovation comes from.
I suspect we can imagine a whole bunch of wild applications. The chances that we're going to actually nail some of the big ones on the head are, I think, fairly low.
There will be extraordinary innovations, ideas that pop up out of nowhere. If I knew what they were, I would have already achieved the innovation on the spot.
That absence of the same set of barriers, combined with brains and spirit and everything else, will create the things that we can't even imagine. Who imagined the Internet back in 1963? Now we say, "You want to find out something? Go Google it.''
Alivisatos: There's another exercise we can go through which is in some ways just as valuable. Let's think about some areas where we're pretty sure there's no law of science that prevents us from doing certain things. We just need to do it. Examples of that involve how we manipulate energy. We know that there are much better ways in which we can store and use energy that are sustainable.
Nanotechnology will enable us to do certain things like that, very important goals that we can achieve over time if we set those goals for ourselves, (such as) wanting to detect cancer when it's only a couple of cells in size.
It can be done. So let's set those goals and try to work toward them.
Jurvetson: The only thing you can safely say (about predicting nanotech's potential) is the farther out you look, the tougher it gets, and the more bold and the more futuristic the prediction. If it doesn't sound like science fiction, it's almost certainly false.
I can tell you the pace of technological change is accelerating; therefore, predictability is harder.
You can think philosophically of where it might lead. What is this brave new world we're heading into? Are we going to be able to evolve evolvability? Are we going to have digital-controlled matter?
I think we're going to learn more in the next 20 years than we have in the last 200 about all these things we talked about today and their intersections with medicine, and therefore we can't really predict.
All we know is it's a great time to be learning, to have an open mind, be interdisciplinary and figure out what's going on.
Participating in this interview were Chronicle Managing Editor Robert Rosenthal, Business Editor Ken Howe, Deputy Business Editor Alan T. Saracevic, Deputy Business Editor Steven Zuckerman, Assistant Business Editor Marcus Chan, staff writers Bernadette Tansey and David R.Baker, and editorial assistants Colleen Benson and Steve Corder.
WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE of you..
This LINK EXPLAINS THE REG DEX, that SO MANY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND,and speculated on and THOUGHT the company was selling and diluting stock...
THIS means they have not sold stock and the float remains below 740 Million..
GO TO THIS LINK, and look on the right side..
http://www.semipark.co.kr/upload1/MCM%20Highlights.pdf
CORNING GLASSWORKS AND CETEK CONNECTION, BOTH NY COMPANIES
Corning/Cetek Links
1)
doi:10.1023/A:1012570713534
Journal of Materials Science Letters
20 (19): 1759-1761, October 1 2001
Copyright © 2001 Kluwer Academic Publishers
All rights reserved
Cordierite honeycomb structures formed by reduction extrusion processing
A. M. Buchtel
New York State College of Ceramics at Alfred University, 2 Pine Street, Alfred, NY 14802, USA
D. A. Earl
Lou Holleran Corning Incorporated, Science and Technology, Environmental Products Development, Corning, NY 14831, USA. Earlda@alfred.edu
Article ID: 390925
2)
doi:10.1023/A:1016598130789
Journal of Materials Science Letters
21 (14): 1081-1084, July 15 2002
Copyright © 2002 Kluwer Academic Publishers
All rights reserved
Growth of unique carbon nanostructures on ceramic substrates
Kishor Gadkaree
Corning Inc., SP-FR-5-1, Sullivan Park, Corning, NY 14831, USA
Article ID: 5096131
**********
1)Earl from Corning. Earl is/was a Cetek consultant. See burlaptocashmer's message #54,337.
2)Corning again with nano/ceramic substrate connection.
Is Cetek involved? Who knows! I sure don't. Could they be? Of course! That's what I am trying to find out. The mere fact that Cetek was involved with Motorola and nano carbon nanotubes on a sustrate at one time leads me to think that they could EASILY be nano involved somehow now. We will find the answer some day. It would be helpful, wouldn't it, if Cetek told us.
Sherlock ;-)
SOME GUY STATED this
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2271795
WE MADE IT.
This is starting to circulate around on many of the Cetek boards currently. Since we don't have a date on when it was released, it's anyone's guess as to when it was actually put out, but MANY informed people feel it was leaked and could be current news! If in fact this is current, I wouldn't want to be trying to chase this one, going to move higher than you can imagine!
Cetek's Backlog Nears $2 Million
Cetek Technologies, Inc. (Poughkeepsie, NY), a manufacturer of industrial and electronic ceramics, has announced that its order backlog is now $1,865,500 primarily due to increased demand for ceramics. Cetek is expanding its capacity with the addition of new equipment, and preparing for increased capacity after several planned acquisitions. Targeted acquisitions are companies that are not only in line with Cetek's overall business model, but are available at low cost and show strong fundamentals. Near-term acquisition targets are expected to have Nasdaq Small Cap listing. Cetek specializes in structural and electronics ceramics, with an emphasis on the flat panel display and cellular telephone industries. Cetek's proprietary production process reduces machining requirements for sintered parts, and lowers processing costs by 40% compared to the industry standard. Cetek's display technology brought the company a Department of Commerce contract to develop "smart display" technology in addition to its more conventional flat panel display backplanes. Flat panel displays are a $30 billion industry, with ceramic backplanes accounting for $2 to $3 billion annually. In addition to displays, Cetek also supplies ceramic substrates for hybrid and multichip module (MCM) electronic packaging.
In addition to large clients like IBM, Cetek targets medium and small accounts. The company believes the small and medium market is valued at $1 billion per year, with little or no competition.
Contact: James Stock, Stock Enterprises, 888/458-5747 or Cetek Technologies, Inc., 19 Commerce St., Poughkeepsie, NY 12603; Tel: 914/452-3510, Fax: 914/452-3524
I think it could be a sign of what is to come...
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
Today was overall green. Any takes on that .06 high, and if it will influence trading in the future.I think it could be a sign of what is to come...
Someone just dropped a zero on their order(poor sucker) Nice to dream though
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
Good read this morning http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CTKH&board= CTKH&read=56559&startfrom=&numposts=60&submit=Go
Clay
im interested in the response... post it as soon as you get it!
NANOTECHNOLOGY AND FUEL CELLS GO HAND IN HAND. NANOTECHNOLOGY WILL PROVIDE ADVANCEMENTS IN FUEL CELL COMPONENTS AND FUEL CELLS WILL PROVIDE THE POWER THAT NANOTECHNOLOGY NEEDS. 2004 WILL BE A YEAR IN WHICH CTKH AND OTHER COMPANIES CROSS THE BARRIER AND INTO PRODUCTION!
JUST REMEMBER THIS. NANOTECHNOLOGY AND FUEL CELLS ARE LIKE MICROSOFT AND INTEL. THEY TOOK AWHILE TO GET STARTED, BUT WHEN THEY DID, YEA BABY! "SOMETIMES
CLAY 1999 MENTIONED THIS SITE EARLIER AND IT IS EXCELLENT....TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTIVITY TOWARDS NANOTECHNOLOGY... http://www.nanoinvestornews.com/index.php
MY FAVORITE QUOTE: FROM THE MOVIE "WALLSTREET"
"...but they got a good new drug. Stick to the fundamentals, that's how IBM and Hilton were built...good things sometimes take time."
quote:
Originally posted by Randy803:
Ok now I am afraid...... YIKES its diving.
fear causes a downtrend...dont be afraid... this is not a day by day player, but a long termm hold... although your entry was a bit high, i wouldnt worry
SJD
Please feel free to add your own theories or comments of merit
EITHER WAY YOU STILL HAVE TO LIKE THIS STOCK FOR 2 REASONS ALREADY MENTIONED!!!
1. They have product
2. They are profitable
2a. Oh yeh and another one being, HOW MANY SUBPENNY STOCKS CAN STATE EITHER 1 OR 2!!
Good Luck, and COMON CTKH!
Good assesment.
I also follow TA rather than news, not counting out the latter by any means. Stock prices are driven by volume. That is what this stock needs. I believe this stock will continue to fall some more before a rally unlees there is great volume (600M) or more.
Chart analysis:
MACD = falling toward 0
Full Stoch (14,7) (9) = 60
OBV is sideways
Williams %R = -60
DMI = bullish
ADX = Strong trend
Aroon = Strong trend
Ult. Osc. = no divergence and still above 30
CMF = Couple of divergence indicating down trend (1/20 - 1/26 and 2/1)
CCI = continued down trend (recent minor divergences)
Logically this stock should go up for all the reasons on this board. I too am a believer in this stock. Watching for volume and stock to explode.
COMMENTS??? MM Manipulation to help the COMPANY FINISH BUYBACK possible????
TAKE A LOOK...
U.S. Stocks Moderately Lower In Late Afternoon
Forbes.com staff, 02.04.04, 4:05 PM ET
NEW YORK -
Disappointed by Cisco Systems (nasdaq: CSCO - news - people ) and Ciena (nasdaq: CIEN - news - people ), shareholders sold off other high-profile tech stocks in heavy trading, sending a negative sentiment throughout the market at large that continued through late in the trading day. Cisco was down $2.18 to $24.23; Ciena, down $1.30 to $5.99; Intel (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ), down $1.06 to $30.30; Nortel (nyse: NT - news - people ) , down 52 cents to $7.47; and Lucent Technologies (nyse: LU - news - people ) down 22 cents to $4.27. The major indexes were all moderately lower in late trading. The Dow was at 10,487.18, down 18.00; the Nasdaq at 2,020.38, down 45.83; and the S&P 500 at 1,128.48, down 7.55. Bonds were slightly higher late in the day, the 10-year Treasury was up 0.024 to yield 4.124% and the 30-year was up 0.008 to yield 4.964%. NYMEX crude oil futures slumped 2.9% in a sell-off after industry and government inventory data showed a huge supply increase last week due to heavy imports.
ON DECEMBER 19, OF 2001 CETEK CLOSED AT AN AMAZING 0.75 CENTS!!!
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IT MADE IT THERE AGAIN....YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT!
pre news this stock was overbought big time!
also for the ones that were here for the .0002/.0040 run from early december. there was pullback from .0040 to .0019 remember. so one could say our recent overbought high of .0079 should dip to around .0040 before the next run up. sounds right
don't be weak stand strong the news will effect this stock next week plus it will see .01. SOON
Revenues from this article
mention Revenues for 2001 1.5 million $
Hilal in 2002 says 117% higher than 2001 =3.25 Million $
so then in 2003 203 % higher than 2002 =9.85 Millions
so so far we are talking around 10 millions dollars revenue yearly ...
based on this article .
Cetek Technologies Inc. [S] Poughkeepsie, NY • Phone: (845) 452-3510 • Fax: (845) 452-3524 E-mail: fayiz@cetektechnologies.com www.cetektechnologies.com (under construction) CEO: Fayiz Hilal
$1.5 million (2001 sales est.) The company supplies electronic and structural ceramic components, as well as customized advanced ceramic products. In October 2002, Cetek Technologies announced that it had been licensed by Motorola to produce and use its Carbon Nanotube Triode technology, which is expected to form the basis of the flat-panel display. The company claims that prototype displays demonstrate the potential of a process that could produce 60-in. panels as easily as 2.5-in. displays, with a lifetime in excess of 10,000 hours and better viewing angles than active-matrix LCDs. However, at press time, the company was still seeking to secure adequate funding for this project. Although 2002 sales figures could not be obtained, the company reported that revenues for the first half of 2003 were 223% higher than the same period last year, largely as the result of a new 12-in. ceramic substrate.
Tomorrow will be a better day.
Malloy
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
ANY COMMENTS ON THE CURRENT DIP, DOUBLE BOTTOM OFF of .0045... IS this done or do you guys see some more movement..COMMENTS??? MM Manipulation to help the COMPANY FINISH BUYBACK possible????
The float would be reduced to 240 million and they would have revenues of over 10 million dollars. DIVIDE 240 million by 10.. and that is the REvs per share.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0EIN/1999_Sept_22/55816261/p1/article.jhtml
Thanks
35 employees. 740 million outstanding shares as of NOVEMBER. BELIEVED TO BE LESS NOW.
500 million share buyback program initiated. No details available on that yet.
AND Revenues are believed to be well over 10 million dollars.
quote:
Originally posted by CetekTechnology-NANOTECH:
1.5 Million Sales in 2000.
http://www.ceramicindustry.com/CDA/CIGiants/GiantsItem/0,2754,60551,00.html35 employees. 740 million outstanding shares as of NOVEMBER. BELIEVED TO BE LESS NOW.
500 million share buyback program initiated. No details available on that yet.
AND Revenues are believed to be well over 10 million dollars.
Just in case, you did not click on link.
Where did you get the revenue information ?
I know that the 500 million number is a rumor from RB...
Thanks
Cetek Shareholders` Report for the Fourth Quarter 2003
January 30, 2004 10:09:00 (ET)
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y., Jan 30, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Cetek Technologies Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CTKH) reports that the fourth quarter of 2003 was the first profitable quarter in over four years. Revenues for the year 2003 were 185% higher than the year 2002.
Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry.
Larger sintering furnaces, in the ceramic area, will come on line the first quarter of 2004, hence increasing available capacity by threefold. Having this increased capacity will have a favorable impact on the response time to customers. So far, Cetek has been able to maintain all shipments on schedule.
Cetek's primary customer from England, for whom we are building special furnaces, has issued Cetek Technologies more orders for these large furnaces. This product has generated strong demand in the United States and overseas. Substantial sales for this product line are expected throughout 2004 and into 2005.
Also, Cetek Technologies is proud to announce it has initiated its stock buyback program for the benefit of the shareholders. No information will be disclosed until it is completed, and no specific time limit has been set.
Cetek Technologies Inc.'s CEO, Fayiz Hilal, stated, "I am pleased with the quarterly results and very optimistic about Cetek's business landscape and I think it will be another rewarding and profitable year. I thank all shareholders for their continuous support. We will endeavor to keep shareholders informed of our efforts in developing Cetek into a significant player in this industry. We believe these recent events will lead to increased shareholder value."
This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. In particular, when used in the preceding discussion, the words "believe," "expects," "projects," "may" and similar conditional expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the act and subject to the safe harbor created by the act. Except for historical information, all of the statements, expectations and assumptions contained in the foregoing are forward-looking statements that involve a number of risks and uncertainties.
SOURCE: Cetek Technologies Inc.
"Importantly, Cetek made a significant advancement during this past quarter, to become established in the nanotechnology field. The Bush administration has signed a $4 billion appropriation for nanotechnology. This is an exciting, innovative technology with far-reaching potential applications. Nanotechnology is considered to be the basis for the next industrial growth. Cetek is well positioned in this field, and continued development and progress in this area should be fast and aggressive, both for the company and the industry.
Larger sintering furnaces, in the ceramic area, will come on line the first quarter of 2004, hence increasing available capacity by threefold. Having this increased capacity will have a favorable impact on the response time to customers. So far, Cetek has been able to maintain all shipments on schedule.
Cetek's primary customer from England, for whom we are building special furnaces, has issued Cetek Technologies more orders for these large furnaces. This product has generated strong demand in the United States and overseas. Substantial sales for this product line are expected throughout 2004 and into 2005."
Yesterday we had the first divergence of the CMF. Price closed at a new low but indicator went up. Also ADX has peaked and is moving down indicating a possible weakening of the down trend.
These are minor moves but good ones. Williams %R is also now at 80, nearing oversold.
To play safe you might want to wait for a confirmation of the change as CMF moves up over 0.
Watch for volume, I believe there could be an exposive move with climatic volume. Be ready. This is only my opinion and I am ready to get back in.
wyz
http://www.ceteklimited.com/html/home.htm
When more good news comes...the longer it has stayed cheap now, the higher it will go then.
Buy more now so you can make more then.
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19 Commerce St
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603-2608
PHONE: (845) 452-3510
FAX: (845) 452-3524 http://www.cetektechnologies.com
ABI#: 43-379-8238
COUNTY: Dutchess
METRO AREA: Dutchess County, NY
REPORT AS OF
Wednesday, February 04, 2004
BUSINESS CREDIT SCORE
A+ (95)
CORPORATE INFORMATION
NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES: 20-49
ANNUAL SALES: $5-10 Million
TYPE OF BUSINESS: Privately Owned YEARS IN INFOUSA DATABASE: 10+
LOCATION TYPE: Single Loc
CORPORATE AFFILIATION: None
MANAGEMENT DIRECTORY
NAME TITLE
Mr. Fayiz Hilal Chief Executive Officer, Finance Executive, Sales Executive
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
PRIMARY LINE OF BUSINESS: Machine Parts-Manufacturers (3469-09)
OTHER LINES OF BUSINESS SIC CODE BRAND/SPECIALTY
Ceramic Products-Industrial (Mfrs) 3299-02
Electronic Equipment & Supplies-Mfrs 3679-01
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PHONE: (845) 452-3510
FAX: (845) 452-3524 http://www.cetektechnologies.com
ABI#: 43-379-8238
COUNTY: Dutchess
METRO AREA: Dutchess County, NY
REPORT AS OF
Wednesday, February 04, 2004
BUSINESS CREDIT SCORE
A+ (95)
CORPORATE INFORMATION
NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES: 20-49
ANNUAL SALES: $5-10 Million
TYPE OF BUSINESS: Privately Owned YEARS IN INFOUSA DATABASE: 10+
LOCATION TYPE: Single Loc
CORPORATE AFFILIATION: None
MANAGEMENT DIRECTORY
NAME TITLE
Mr. Fayiz Hilal Chief Executive Officer, Finance Executive, Sales Executive
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
PRIMARY LINE OF BUSINESS: Machine Parts-Manufacturers (3469-09)
OTHER LINES OF BUSINESS SIC CODE BRAND/SPECIALTY
Ceramic Products-Industrial (Mfrs) 3299-02
Electronic Equipment & Supplies-Mfrs 3679-01
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19 Commerce St
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603-2608
PHONE: (845) 452-3510
FAX: (845) 452-3524 http://www.cetektechnologies.com
ABI#: 43-379-8238
COUNTY: Dutchess
METRO AREA: Dutchess County, NY
REPORT AS OF
Wednesday, February 04, 2004
BUSINESS CREDIT SCORE
A+ (95)
CORPORATE INFORMATION
NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES: 20-49
ANNUAL SALES: $5-10 Million
TYPE OF BUSINESS: Privately Owned YEARS IN INFOUSA DATABASE: 10+
LOCATION TYPE: Single Loc
CORPORATE AFFILIATION: None
MANAGEMENT DIRECTORY
NAME TITLE
Mr. Fayiz Hilal Chief Executive Officer, Finance Executive, Sales Executive
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
PRIMARY LINE OF BUSINESS: Machine Parts-Manufacturers (3469-09)
OTHER LINES OF BUSINESS SIC CODE BRAND/SPECIALTY
Ceramic Products-Industrial (Mfrs) 3299-02
Electronic Equipment & Supplies-Mfrs 3679-01
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any moves lower should only be shakes also they have pulled down our weekly rsi as well good news.
let's see what happens.
holding 3mil shares last buy in at .0042
Job Growth in January Disappoints
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. economy created just 112,000 new jobs in January, far fewer than expected, government data showed on Friday in a disappointing report that will likely weigh on President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election campaign.
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The weak labor market is expected to be a major issue between candidates in the presidential race. Bush's opponents say his economic policies have helped the wealthy and done little to create new jobs.
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The troubled manufacturing sector cut jobs for the 42nd month in a row, despite some signs of a revival in factories seen in other economic data.
The report included annual benchmark revisions but these did not lead to a major change in the overall picture of a weak jobs market.
The Labor Department also defended the accuracy of the employment count based on its survey of payrolls, disputing criticism the poll fails to capture jobs created by new businesses.
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In another encouraging sign for job seekers, hours of work rose to 33.7 from 33.5 in December. Employers often increase the work of existing employees when they are considering taking on new hires.
Average hourly earning also rose to $15.49 from $15.47 the previous month.
CTKH has hit the oversold line as the buyback of the shares is finishing. Once that is done, the stock will rise.
quote:
Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
HUGE, HUGE, HUGE Buys going through.
WOW!
HEY HEY...HERE WE GO TO .007 AGAIN. THIRD TIME IS A CHARM. MAYBE ON TO .01
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DIANA
[This message has been edited by Randy803 (edited February 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
HEY HEY...HERE WE GO TO .007 AGAIN. THIRD TIME IS A CHARM. MAYBE ON TO .01
Lets not jump the gun! Its still at 0.0051
wyz
Thanks, I need all the help I can get
GoGirl
Well, this stock can be short term or long term...but if you really want to see the gold, I would just buy and hold for the long term. You can buy penny stocks and sell short term if you by LOTS of shares to make up for the amount spent and the profit.
What I generally do is this. I will pick a stock, buy several thousand shares, and then choose a target price. So, like for CTKH, I would set a target between 0.75 and 1.00 for myself. You can choose lower or higher targets, it's all up to you. And hopefully it will rise to that target and then sell. For CTKH, I would hold because hopefully it will rise to the .75 or 1.00 target. Hope this helps.
TEST OF 50 day passed with flying colors. LOOK FOR STRONG MOVE UP NEXT WEEK.
where do u see this going next week in your opinion. i was about to sell today at .004, glad i didnt..i need some advice
You never answered my question. You stated the MM's were assisting Hilal in lowering the price to buy back the company.
Is that a FACT or OPINION. If it is fact, please tell us your source. If it is an opinion, please state that also.
I appreciate all of your DD and that is the reason I bought, but I hope we keep to the facts.
Roger
I think we should be breaking .01 down and looking for .019 within the next 1-2 weeks.
ALOT OF MONEY FROM QBID is pouring into cetek.
HALF OF THE CETEK HOLDERS bought in on QBID at the bottom level, and will take some profits and BUY MORE CETEK. THIS Started on friday...
GOOD LUCK..
REMEMBER sometimes the market has no ryhm, rhythm or reason for what it does.
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It is a treat ----- for a long-distance runner.
OH AND ANOTHER THING, DECEMBER 19 OF 2001 WAS AFTER 9/11.....
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
where is every1?
I AM HERE--MAJOR MOVE TODAY..LOOKING GOOD SO FAR...
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DIANA
I sidelined this one early last week getting out about even.
The mention of a agreement with Motorola was mentioned, but I ran across someone who allegedly e-mailed motorola. I wish I would have saved it, but the response from Moto was that the agreement was no longer in force as CTKH was unable to keep up payment on the licensing fees. I have looked, but haven't e-mailed motorola myself. Just wondering if someone has DD on this or has followed with Moto.
Next...again I don't know the full applications of this technology, but at Best Buy, they do have a big screen (from I believe Samsung) that has internal technology beyond Plasma (which has always unimpressed me - old transistor tubes and they admit will only last 3-4 years) and LCD (which is very good). The rep explained the technology in this new unit that sounds very similar to a small ceramic/mirror plate which does produce a clearer picture than even LCD. And I heard that Texas Instruments has produced such technology for this use. Can anyone inform of this and if it applies to CTKH at all?
Their story is good. I'm just trying to make sure they protected any patents or secured licencing agreements with patented manufactuers.
Curious here. Bo
At these prices, it should not take too long to accumulate the 500 Mil they were looking to get.
IMO, when the PR hits, we should be hitting penny land ++.
2004 estimated revs = 20+ Mill (from last PR)
# of O/S after buyback = 200+ Mill (from last PR)
This equals 0.10 rps ==== good target point before year end!
Get in now while the pps is at bargain basement prices!!!!!!!
I am long with 250K shares!
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"A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn, that was fun!"
quote:
Originally posted by ascw60:
My partner and I went in for 4.7 million shares today. Average cost of .0047066. All non productive thoughts aside, I would like an idea of a timeframe where this might reach .09.
between now and this coming Christmas! C'mon CTKH, popa needs a new plasma screen tv!
Nick
good Luck to all.
The biggest mistake with stockholders is impatience and getting out too early...
I can tell you this from experience. I got out on MKTY a little too early and ended up losing an extra $5,000 profit...
FS ~ Trust your dd
This company claims to have made money
but will not answer any questions as to
how much or even what they are truly
marketing. I have contacted the investor
relations s t o c k e n t e r @ aol.com
who stated and I quote...
"As for the questions re: revenues, all the company has made available is what was published in the press release of 1-30-2004. This is a non-reporting SEC issuer; that means that Cetek is not obligated to report, or file, financial information. And, there is no voluntary reporting of any reports beyond what was reported in that press release; and this is the position the company is taking.
Similarly, the size of the orders, and dollar amount, and to whom the company ships to is not being reported. They consider this proprietary; and esp. regarding their customers, they do not want to give specific names in that this may give Cetek competitors an edge.
Sir, I work with many public companies, and they all have investment risk. Non-reporting pink sheet companies are especially hard to evaluate; and I can appreciate your desire to learn more about this one, so as to help determine the merits of the company. I regret that I cannot be more helpful with your questions, but I am being as honest as I can be. I wish you good luck with all your investments, and ask that you invest prudently and be diverse in what you invest in.
Sincerely,
Stock Enterprises
I/R for CTKH"
I followed with a message requesting the
data to support the 185% profit claim.
(if the company can not or will not produce
any information to back the 185% profit then
I expressed that I consider their release
false and misleading in my humble opinion.
Nothing about a profit should be considered
proprietary... seems a bit fishy to me
you all make your own judgements. I hope
they come back with a positive response.
stockenter responded to my first email within 1 hour on a Saturday. My follow-up e-mails have not been responded to at all - days later...*)
quote:
Originally posted by Fallstaff:
Why would you bail on this stock...I've racked up thousands of free shares in this stock, if you can get a feel for the ebb and flo. It's a great company with great potential and probably one of the few that have proven to make money. Eventually, it will have to release but it takes more than a few days/weeks to break out of sub-penny land. PATIENCE!!!!FS ~ Trust your dd
quote:
Originally posted by njs300zx:
Anybody have any thoughts on this stock anymore?
It's a good stock...just watching it consolidate between .0044 and .0047
FS
[This message has been edited by Fallstaff (edited February 17, 2004).]
The technology you are referring to has nothing to do with CTKH. What you saw was a DLP chip. It would be great if it was.
It states that Cetek and Motorola have an agreement...does that site have credibility?
That would be HUGE!!!
Run like you stole somethin!
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Good find HA I hope your right.
[This message has been edited by BADGUARD (edited February 22, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by BADGUARD:
I'm new to this board. just thought i would share this link i came across. http://www.nanoelectronicsplanet.com/nanochannels/products/print/0%2C%2C10460_1 481341%2C00.html it had an article. i don't know how trustworthy it is. thought maybe the more experienced people could check it out. like i said i'm a rookie.[This message has been edited by BADGUARD (edited February 22, 2004).]
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2427323
quote:
Originally posted by GOADY911:
what is with oct. of 2002 ?
With stocks, and especially new technology that is being developed or sold, you cannot expect an OVERNIGHT BOOM to $1....especially with CTKH. This is going to take time. All stocks take time to re-adjust and I think with the coming elections, things are going to get even screwier....but not to fear...KERRY IS HERE!...LOL...OR MAYBE NADER IS HERE!...LOL
ELECTION YEARS ARE ALWAYS THE SCREWIEST WITH STOCKS....
Hate to disagree with your assessment. But
CTKH has been around for a while and under
different symbols.
It produces PR that says just enough to
get people to invest. They will not answer
questions about the company or who their
customers are... They will not produce any
figures that support their claim to have
the first profitable quarter in years. They
will not even tell anyone a figure associated
with their 185% claim.
They use Stock Center as their investor relations
but do not provide any information to
Stock Center beyond the Press Releases.
I put forward many questions to their
investor relations and have not had a
single question answered beyond the company
saying that they do not answer questions
beyond the press releases.
They have given me a number to contact
that has yet to be answered after many
calls over the last two weeks. They will
not send me an e-mail to answer my questions
they say they want to explain them over the
phone.
I recently purchase many shares of CTKH
so that I could prove a point and ask
legitimate questions of the company as
a stockholder.
bottom-line ... Dream a Dream but if
you expect the stock to hit a dollar
at any time in the future I would suggest
pulling up a ******g chair. In my humble
opinion it is going to be a very long wait.
If you wonder why Wall Street has not taken
notice. I would say it has and thus CTKH
is where it is...
I posted this because the astrix
made it seem as though the post
was derogatory.
YEE HAAAAA
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DIANA
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by rajarammx:
A 500 signal just went thru couple of minutes ago, if I read Scottrade right.GLTA
I read it from the quickquote of Scottrade...
Glta
Raja
Now about the phone call with Fayiz.
I started the call by telling him that we were all very excited about the direction the company is going. I told him that in my judgment, as we read between the lines of the last PR there was a lot to be excited about. His response was that he was glad that I had read between the lines, because many people had called and told him that they felt there was nothing there.
I asked him if the buyback was the reason that the last report was so general in nature. He said no. He told me that he really did have to submit the report, not just to his attorney but to that SEC legal department too.
He would not confirm anything about the buyback. Because there are those who would use the information for financial gain.
I then informed him that I have been very impressed by his leadership of the company through the dot com crash and the R/S difficulties.
I then asked him if there was any way that we could get more specific financial information. His immediate response was that the company was very well off financially. As he put it, the fact that they were doing the buy back means that they could afford it.
He said that his long range goal for CTKH is to be listed on the NASDAQ, as he put it, for the welfare of all of the shareholders. He agreed that as a pinkie we are at the mercy of the shareholders. He says that it is their intention to offset their hold by getting more attention to their stock. As he put it by getting more attention to their stock that will keep the market manipulators (his words) off balance.
He said that financially they are "extremely well off." He said that they have gone through the bad times and they are better now.
I then asked him if he saw a time in the forseeable future when they could begin giving us some solid financial figures. He sais that they are currently considering the possibility of including eanings, profit, and profit per share figures. Things like that.
I told him that as investors it is important that we get such information so that we know that we have our money invested wisely.
He told me that it is up to his attorney. That he has limited their press releases to on per quarter so that they cannot get in trouble with the SEC for pump and dump.
For those of you who doubt that statement by him you need to check out my Comp. DD Report and you will see an example of a report last year where Hilal published a report that he was immediately required to retract. The SEC has slapped his hands, once and he has been super careful ever since then.
He said that the SEC now requires them to provide proof of everything that the plan to put in their reports. He said that one of the ways to satisfy the SEC that they are not a pump and dump is to limit their press releases.
For example he said that his original draft of the last report included specific dollar amounts in the second paragraph. But his attorney made him take it out because it could be considered a pump and dump move. He said that in his opinion, the result was that paragraph was very weak. And he was not satisfied with it, but could do nothing about it.
We chatted about that for a while. We talked about the "Better than you could imagine" comment. And he reafirmed it. And he said that was one of the things they made him take out of the second paragraph.
I suggested that he give more infomation to Jim Stock. I also suggested a mid quarter report. So that there won't be so much lag time between report that kills the momentum. I told him that when we don't hear from them for 3 months the MMs kill us. And that it is hard to justify staying with a postition when the MMs retrace the stock price 50%.
I told him that the key is for him to put himself in our place and ask himself what informtion he would want from CTKH to justify his investment. He said he understood and would talk it over with his attorney.
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quote:
Originally posted by Trader O:
It's been about 10 days since the last post on this. Has anyone heard anything? Is the buyback complete or what?
I must have been absent that day in school when they taught that. Would you be so kind to elaborate?
quote:
Originally posted by NukeMeds:
Look at the volume over the past 5 trading days. Somewhere in there you should see a LARGE volume spike with a very unproportionate gap up or down in price..hint hint
Sorry about being vague, was late and tired.
quote:
Originally posted by Saving4KidsCollege:
Nuke....I must have been absent that day in school when they taught that. Would you be so kind to elaborate?
[This message has been edited by NukeMeds (edited March 09, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by rita7uk:
how do i buy shares for nanotechnology?
please help.
under what symbol or name are they on the market?
CTKH ....
quote:
Originally posted by hajinator:
Big meeting Wed with a shareholder and Hilal. The books will no longer be a mystery. We WILL know all info on this company. Watch for a pr on Wed at the latest. Everything you ever wanted to know will come out this week.
bingo
Cetek Technologies Issues Status Report
Friday July 30, 9:26 am ET
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 30, 2004--Cetek Technologies, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CTKH - News), a manufacturer of ceramic components and ceramic substrate material for the electronics industry, files the following update for second quarter 2004.
Management takes this opportunity to briefly report on the status of operations, as is customary, having completed the second quarter, and first half, of 2004.
Sales revenues continue to grow, with the recently ended second quarter being the strongest yet in production and shipment of our proprietary ceramic substrate product. Revenues were up 51% from the previous quarter, and Cetek continues to operate with net positive cash flow and profitably.
As reported previously, demand for our products is increasing. Additional production capacity is needed, to meet current and future, production requirements. Management has been working on how best to increase production capacity. One possibility, being that of acquiring an additional facility or company. Fortunately, Cetek's resources, from previous successful funding activities, will be available to use towards this production capacity issue. Capitalization of the corporation was enhanced in the past year through the issuance of private placement common shares, which in itself, demonstrates strong support for the management of the company and its technology from the investors' community. This effort is facilitating the company's continued expansion of its product line and in general, the growth of the bus.
As we have previously stated, we do not anticipate any circumstances that would cause us to undertake a reverse stock split of our common stock.
The company's official website was launched in the past quarter, www.cetektechnologies.com and it will be updated on an ongoing basis.
The company is expected to have its annual shareholder meeting later this summer. A specific date and location have not yet been established, but will be reported shortly.
From the Company's inception, Cetek has focused on building a company with solid fundamentals, and with solid foundations in the state-of-the-art ceramic technology. Years of formulating, testing and proto-typing have taken us to where we are now -- producing and distributing Cetek's proprietary ceramic materials for an ever-growing client base.
Cetek Technologies was represented at the SEMICON West 2004 (http://wps2a.semi.org/wps/portal) technology trade show in San Francisco, California, which had very strong interest by attendees in the company's materials and capabilities. As a result, several new domestic and international sales prospects are being pursued.
We continue to view the CNT (carbon nanotube) area as a dynamic business segment for the future, one that may hold much promise, including electron emitters for FPD's (flat panel displays). In addition, "nano emissive display" (NED) technology, which enables a manufacturer to design large flat panel displays that exceed the image quality characteristics of plasma and LCD screens at a much lower cost, is extremely exciting in our niche of the industry, and could potentially be one of Cetek's applications in the future.
In closing, we thank all shareholders for their continued support in the company, and we will endeavor to keep shareholders informed of our efforts in developing Cetek into a significant player in its industry, as it strives to build shareholder value for our stockholders.
Respectfully submitted,
Fayiz Hilal
CEO and President
About Cetek Technologies, Inc.
Cetek Technologies' principal activity is to manufacture and market products based on applications of thin film and display technologies. Cetek produces very high grade quality industrial ceramics including alumina, cordierite, mullite, and zirconia for thermal shock, wear, electrical isolation and corrosial resistance applications. Substrates are commercially produced in 12 inch panels, as well as larger sizes. Products are sold to the electronics, welding, chemical, pulp & paper, nuclear power, aerospace and semiconductor industries. In addition, CNT technologies are currently being researched and co-developed for various applications, including fuel cells.
Company website: www.cetektechnologies.com
Safe Harbor Statement under the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform Act:
Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.
Contact:
Stock Enterprises (Investor Relations)
James Stock, 866-242-2405
Source: Cetek Technologies, Inc.
Author: Roundmot. this information has to be release at large...
Listen up! And pay attention. You have asked for it. And the boards
are buzzing with everything. So I am going to tell you what I know or
think I know about Cetek.
BUT let me tell you straight up, this will not change ANYTHING.
Tomorrow the pps will be exactly the same. The bashers will still be
talking about that reverse split. And they will still be attacking me
when I am through. IN FACT I predict that the personal attacks will
increase as a result of this post.
This is a mixture of what I know for a fact and what I have assumed
from things I know for a fact.
As you know, I was completely shut down by Fayiz when I went to NY.
When I left his office, I was in shock. I could not believe the man
had played me for such a fool. I had allowed him to reschedule my
appointment twice with the understanding that I was going to have a
personal two hour meeting with him during which I was going to get all
that I had asked for under Delaware law.
When I got to Cetek, Fayiz came into the conference room and
introduced himself and asked me about my flight, and where I was
staying etc. And then he introduced me to a gentleman named Bill
O'Hare. He told me that Bill would be the one answering my questions,
that he (Fayiz) has some things he had to do. And he walked out of
the room. Bill and I chatted for a few minutes and Fayiz returned
briefly with 4 11 x 17 sheets of paper and gave them to Bill.
Bill and I discussed the substrate samples that he had brought in with
him and he told me that I could have them. It was then that he let it
slip that Cetek was making 40" substrates. A few minutes later he
started showing me the paper Fayiz had left. They were are shareholder
list. But it didn't list all the shareholders, just the ones who had
requested certificates, everyone else was grouped under the Cede &
Company, which I found out later was the company that holds all street
named stocks for the DTC. We discussed the list and the fact that it
was basically useless to me. I then started going down my list of
information I had come for, and with every request, Bill told me that
he would have to get back with me on that. By the time I got to the
end I was pretty hot. I tried my best to act professional and to
remember that I was there representing everyone. So I told him that I
was very shocked that after bending over backwards to let Fayiz
schedule at day that was just perfect for him, that I would be treated
this way. He apologized and told me the he would ask Fayiz about
everything. And so I came away with nothing except a pathetic
shareholders list that wasn't even dated, and four ceramic substrate
samples.
Later that evening when I returned to my motel, there was a message
waiting for me that Bill had talked to Fayiz and he had said it was
okay. What was Okay? Ididn't have a clue, so I decided I would call
him first thing in the morning before my flight left. I was hoping
that he would actually meet with him and I could take a later flight home.
Later that night at about 11:00, as I was getting ready for bed, my
phone rang. It was a PennyFever board member who has asked not to
identified. He told me that he had been thinking about calling me for
about a month. And he said that he was calling me now because he had
some information that he thought might help me with Fayiz. He said
that he was part of a group of investors who had been approached by
Fayiz over a year ago about financing a prototype facility. (Read the
April 5 2003 PR and you will see that Fayiz mentioned it) He said that
they decided not to participate but he thought that I should know
about it.
The next morning I called Fayiz and after some unpleasantries, I
finally said, "Look Fayiz you think that I am your enemy but I am your
friend. I know a lot about your company that I have never told the
people on the boards because I know you would want me to keep them
secret until you are ready to put them out in a PR. For instance, I
know about the negotiations with the two Far East companies regarding
an acqusition, and I know the names or the two sales reps that you are
interviewing for the East and West Coast sales rep positions, and I
know about DisplayTek. But I haven't told anyone, because I am your
friend not your enemy." And when I said that, Fayiz immediately asked
me,"What do you know about DisplayTek?" And I said, "I know that you
acquired it, and that it is a solely owned subsidiary of Cetek and I
know that you sold 2 billion shares of Class A Common to acquire the
company, and that they are restricted for two years." And he laughed
and said, "Do you mind if I tell you something, you have got it all
wrong. We didn't acquire DisplayTek. We created it from the ground
up. And the only thing it cost us was the cost of filing the
paperwork. And we didn't sell the shares to buy it. Do you know why
we sold the shares? Because we needed the money for everything we are
doing."
We talked for another 20 minutes or so about everything and I ended
the call by asking him to look over the list of things I came for and
see if there was anything on the list that he could send me
immediately so that I would not come home completely empty handed. He
told me that he would look at it.
When I got off the plane in Phoeix, I got the phone call in which
Fayiz told me that he was sending me something that would make
everyone very happy. As it turned out, the only information i got was
the shareholder list. But a week or two later I did get a letter from
Bill O'Hare telling me that he would help me get our answers one by
one. I was very encouraged by that. And in the mean time, I was
recieving phone calls from Jim Stock every few days just to talk over
customer relations issues. I have developed a wonderful relationship
with him (if this post doesn't destroy it) i have been able to convey
all of our concerns to him at least 3 times a week since my return. I
have also developed a very warm relationship with Fayiz and have
called him about 6 times since my return and have sent him about 8
e-mails. He has read them all. And I even got one back from him that
said in part, "Dear Richard: I want to personally thank you for all
your good wishes and your prayers for me and for Cetek...Thanks again
for your warm thoughts and you are really a friend. Fayiz"
So when I have told this board that I have been reluctant to share
anything about their secrets because I now have a true friendship with
them I was not exaggerating. But I also have an obligation to you. In
the first place I am the moderator of the PnneyFever Investment Group.
We are a DD group. That is true even of the RB. And our primary
purpose is to share our DD. I have attempted to do that for the last
month by referring to old PRs that have spoken directly to the things
I know. But for some reason many of you could not understand that
approach. Therefore, I will not tell you what I know, in plain English.
First let me tell you what I know about DisplayTek. As soon as I
returned home I began looking for information about the company. I
checked with Delaware and they didn't have any company that looked
like it could fit. So I took a shot in the dark and checked with NY
Secretary of State's office. I found a company that was incorporated
on January 27, 2003, in Dutchess County, NY, as a Domestic Business
Corporation. Their address is 488 Freedom Plains Rd. Ste 103,
POUGHKEEPSIE, NY 12603. There is no registered agent shown. The fact
that it is in Poughkeepsie and was started after the date of the R/S
all fit. And the spelling of Tek instead of Tech was too coincidental
for me.
As I did some more checking, I found out from another source that it
originally was conceived over a year and a half ago, apparently even
before the r/s, but was put on hold until January of '03. Even the,
it appears that the company lay dormant until it was resurrected
toward the end of '03. As Fayiz stated in the April 5 ,2003,PR,
DisplayTek apparantly was created to produce the prototypes and
products for various customers. The idea was that when the customers
prototype was created they would then be allowed to buy stock in
DisplayTek so that they not only get the product but also own stock in
the manufacturer and the prototype. That is what Dixie_normous was
talking about the other day when he/she wrote: "If you want to know
whats going down, Forget Roundmouth, he's just a clown. Displays the
name and techs the game. You heard it here first, only yourself to
blame. Subsidiary rights, with other to sell. Make the product, but
dip twice at the well. Harness customers, get them hooked,
shareholders get little, but Hilals double booked."
We have heard that 55% of the stock will be held by CTKH, 5% by the
DisplayTek management, and 40% by the customers who buy into the
company. We also have heard that the CFO of the company is a man named
Lloyd Lews or Lewis.
When I went back and re-read the last PR, keeping in mind what I now
know about DisplayTek, I assumed that the company had given up on
developing their own CNT prototype, and that DisplayTek was dead. But
then I started thinking about the missing employees. And I started
wondering if they were working somewhere else, perhaps at the 488
Freedom Plains Rd. Ste 103, POUGHKEEPSIE, NY address. So I secretly
asked a board member to go by that address and take some pictures and
find out all they could. I was halfway expecting him to find 15 Cetek
employees constructing some kind of manufacturing facility. But
instead he found an Attorney's office. He reported back to me that
his mission had failed. But then he told me the name of the attorney:
O'Hare & O'Hare. We had the right DisplayTek and the address for the
Agent of Record. We still don't know where the actual facility is.
But I am convinced that somewhere in Poughkeepsie, NY, there is a
company called DisplayTek that is being outfitted as a full prototype
production facility. And if it is there, then eventually we will be
able to find it. Perhaps, now that you all know about it, we can find
it together. The statement in today's PR that "CNT technologies are
currently being researched and co-developed for various applications,
including fuel cells" re-kindled my belief that there is a prototype
facility somewhere that we have not found yet.
You can confirm the information I have given you about DisplayTek on
the NY Secretary or State's office. I don't know the exact address so
you will have to find it. I found it with no problem.
In addition to DisplayTek, I have heard rumors that CTKH is currently
talking with two manufacturing companies about a merger/acquisition by
CTKH to provide them with additional manufacturing capabilities. We
have reason to believe that Fayiz conducted successful talks with one
of the companies the week before he went to SemiCon. I personally
thougt that it was a South Korean company. I had heard a soft rumor
that there was one in the loop. But I could not get confirmation of it
or get a name. But then two weeks ago Fayiz showed up at the SemiCon
Conference with Valley Design Corporation out of Westford
Massachusetts, with a branch office in Santa Cruz, California. The
were "sharing" a booth. But the strange thing was that Cetek was not
a registered vendor at the show. How could they be sharing if the
weren't sharing? Obviously, there was more to it. A little research
showed that Valley Design was one of the companies that Fayiz was
talking about in the April 5 2003 , PR when he said, "the Company was
still supplying ceramic samples to certain grinding houses for
evaluation."
They liked what they saw and apparently replaced all other substrates
with ours. You should go to valleydesign dot com for all of the
information about what they can do. Also check out www dot ultra-thin
dot com/ for more information. While there, click on the site map and
read The Valley Story.
There are two important things to note. One is that they have a man
named G. Indras on staff who is considered to be one of the world's
leading consultants on polishing, grinding, and coating ceramic
substrates. And the other thing to note is that the old couple who
started the company are apparently wanting to retire.
Even with all to that information, it never occurred to any one that
there was anything really going on until Queeens_14 posted that Fayiz
was going to be meeting with someone last Wednesday. A few days later
I learned from a board member that Fayiz did have that meeting. And
it was in Boston. Westford is West Northwest of Boston, and could
easily have been his actual destination.
If Fayiz did in fact go to Valley Design Corporation last week to sign
the paperwork to finalize the acquisition, why didn't He mention it in
today's PR? I suggest that there can only be one explanation; they
didn't finish all of the paperwork yet. Perhaps they only signed a
letter or intent to get the process started, perhaps they signed half
of the paperwork but had to work on the rest. I don't know. But I do
believe with all my heart that the acquistition is real. And I fully
expect even Fayiz to put out a full disclosure PR the very day that
the acquisition is finalized, just exactly like he did when they
acquired Multilythics.
If they do acquire Valley Design Corporation, that would solve many of
the production problems. It would give Cetek a manufacturing center
on both the East and West Coasts. And interestingly, the two sales
people they are interviewing are rumored to be from Massachusetts and
California. No great surprise.
But if I am right, this will not be the last acquisition. They still
need the Far East assembly line to make all of this work perfectly.
So I personally expect to begin hearing rumors about that very soon.
If they are able to do that, then IMO, everything will fall into place.
As I mentioned above, the company is also talking with two sales
representatives, Brad Novak in Orange County California and a woman in
Mass. Neither one has been hired. They are both big long term
shareholders with CTKH and have really done a lot of homework to learn
the industry.
There are also rumors that a major newspaper in the NY area is
considering doing a article about CTKH. That should bring them to
the attention of Wall Street. And if it is after the mergers then it
could really be a significant article. Also one of our board members
works for one of the big three TV news broadcasters. And he is trying
to talk them into doing a piece on CTKH if things pop.
Then of course you have heard the rumors that they are preparing to
file for reentry to the OTCBB. The rumors are that they are trying to
get the Form 10 submitted by the end of summer with the hopes of
being listed by Christmas. The Christmas date is looking very
doubtful, but the filing by late September could still prove to be
true. And as I have pointed out before, once the Form 10 has been
filed we should be ableto download it from the SEC site. And then we
will know every little detail about Cetek. And, if one of the mergers
is with a Nasdaq listed company then we will instantly end up on the
big boards. Wouldn't that be nice?
And now this week we have had the mystery guest on Monday. And I have
heard unconfirmed rumors that he will be back for seconds soon. I
thought that it was going to be this week and obviously I was wrong.
But I have no reason to doubt that the rumors are true. Of course we
will have to wait and see.
There may be more that I am forgetting at this time because of the
late hour. If I rememeber anything else I will post it later.
Now you know why I was so positive when I returned from NY. I told
Jim Stock and Fayiz that I would hold off on telling the boards until
the information was made public by someone else. I have kept my word.
In fact, I remained silent even after most of it was released, because
I could see that most of you did not notice the references. Well, it
is out now. And since my purpose for being here is to present
accurate DD, I am posting the whole story to clear up any confusion by
the many different reports.
As you know, Fayiz ran me through the emotioal ringer for weeks prior
to my trip. I went from trusting, to doubting, to fearing, to
doubting, to trusting, to almost liking, to pitying the man. Since my
trip I haver learned to totally trust him to do what he says he will
do. He will fulfill his plan if it can be done. Of that, It have no
doubt. But my gut tells me that there are parts of his personality
that cannot be figured out. I want to believe that my first instincts
were correct, and that he can be trusted with my life savings. So I
have decided to take a chance and put my last bit of money into his
hands. If I am correct then my dreams will come true, If I am wrong
then the amount of money is so small it wouldn't have helped me for
more than a month of two anyway.
I do not have a clue who the real Fayiz is. We may have to take every
negative thing I said about Fayiz in my previous e-mails and posts
with a grain of salt. I cannot read him accurately from one minute to
the next. Just about the time I was sure that he was a complete
phony, he does things that forced me to see him in a different light.
In the meantime I will attempt to keep the bridge intact and in fact
will try to strengthen it. Although I suspect that this post will
destroy my relationship with Jim Stock and Fayiz. I hope not. But I
feel that I have more of an obligation to all of you than I do to them.
Before today's PR, I let him know that we know his secrets and it is
therefore of no use to keep these things quiet. I recommended that he
tell the world about the 40" substrates. Several of the shareholders
who had done the original research that uncovered much of this info
made it known that they intended to tell all on August 1 if Fayiz had
not done so by then, and as you saw today, they kept their word. I
let Fayiz know about their determination to do so, and i had hopes
that he would take the high road and include much of this in this PR,
but it was not to be.
From the beginning, my concern has been that if we released this
information to the boards, it would be doubted, torn apart by the
bashers, and perhaps even denied by JS and Fayiz because they are not
ready of it to be released. In that case, I am convinced that the net
affect on the pps will be negative. And the sad part it that, later
when they do finally publish the info, it will be looked at as old
news and will not have the affect on the pps then that it would have
had if Fayiz had been the first one to tell the world. Only time will
tell. I hope that I am wrong.
Now you know everything that I know that comes to mind.
I have verified everything contained here through sources that I
trust. But I cannot guarantee that the information is true or
accurate. I am satisfied that it is. you must decide for yourself.
Richard
DISCLAIMER: I am not an investment expert or advisor. Nor am I an
employee or agent of any of the companies I discuss on this board.
Therefore, everything contained in my posts is my own personal
opinion, and is not necessarily fact, or the opinion of the companies
I have discussed or their management. While, to the best of my
knowledge all information contained herein is true and correct, there
is always a chance that I am wrong. Therefore, do your own research.
A good rule of thumb is that if you have not received the information
from a recognized investment expert or advisor, or directly from a
company, its management or other official representatives, do not base
your investment decisions upon it. - Richard, aka roundmot.
DEBT FREE(?)
A/S 9 000 000 000
O/S 3 875 000 000
Restricted 2 275 000 000 (estimation)
Float 1 600 000 000 (estimation)
So let also assume:
Revenue 20 000 000 (maximum estimation)
O/S 3 875 000 000
R/OS 0,0052
x10R 10
Target price 0,0516
The PPS is very undervalued. Buy back still on progress (I presume). Company with good future.
Negative side: Lack of information.
Cetek Technologies Inc. Annual Shareholder Meeting Date Set
Tuesday August 17, 8:00 am ET
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 17, 2004--Cetek Technologies Inc. (Pink Sheets: CTKH - News), a manufacturer of ceramic substrate material for the electronics industry, stated today that its Annual Shareholders Meeting is scheduled for Sept. 8, 2004, at 2 p.m. PDT.
The venue will be at the Horizon Room, 104th floor, in the Stratosphere Casino Hotel & Tower, 2000 Las Vegas Blvd. S., Las Vegas (http://www.stratospherehotel.com). Shareholders of record on Aug. 6, 2004, will be entitled to attend. Due to security requirements at the venue, shareholders are advised to arrive at the Tower 15 minutes early.
About Cetek Technologies Inc.
Cetek Technologies' principal activity is to manufacture and market ceramic products for general and specific applications, such as flat screen monitors and fuel cells. The company produces very high grade industrial ceramics including alumina, cordierite, mullite and zirconia, etc., for applications that require stability at high temperature, wear and corrosion resistant, electrical isolation and others.
Company Web site: www.cetektechnologies.com
Safe Harbor Statement under the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform Act
Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.
Contact:
Stock Enterprises
James Stock, 866-242-2405 (Investor Relations)
Do not expect any substantial movement without news.
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by Forrestgump:
Chart look very good. Ready to run...?
Hello brg88tx...thought someone better qualified than me would be
posting here tonight. But I live in L.V.,came home ...logged in and
realized nobody had updated anyone. Am surprised, but when I left
them at the buffet, they were still pretty deep in discussion. I am
sure you will get a better take from someone else soon, but my
opinion was we came away with little more than we already knew. A
little ray of sunshine was the confirmation that we are working on
something with G.E.. Fayiz said that we are working on aquisitions,
but nothing was finalized. There was alot of aggressive questioning
as to revenues etc., but I personally don't feel that we came away
anything solid. Others may disagree....we'll see.
Please Note at the annual meeting there were approximately 35 shareholders plus Mr Hilal, Jim Stock and Sec attorney who recorded the minutes.. the Attorney told me he MAY give these minutes to JIm to distribute BUT does NOT want them on internet.. when i mention that they would be posted by someone he became quite upset and they may not be distributed.. Summary of meeting
First techinical Issues were discussed in details as to Number of furnaces, cost of furnance , informal CETEK process, size of substrates, uses as CNT, etc. and fuel cells.. FH told us with a poker face so do not know if true or not that CETEK is working with a small company most know as GE on fuel cells..
then the business issues
1. O/s shares are 4.9 Billion 1 Billion were sold in Dec-Jan at ABOVE market prices for additional funding.
2. Motoroal Contract DORMANT but NOT DEAD.. FH claimed Cetek paid Motoral some $$ and never got all what Motoral promised.. also since they had a contract Cetek can not use Motoral Tech without Motoral OK and they hope to make DORMAT ACTVE again but NO PROMISE..
FH WILL SHARE with shareholders any news when it become avail and MOTORAL was upset when FH announced th agreement in a PR to shareholders..
3. NO REVERSE SPLIT.. this was stated over and over again
4. NO BUYBACK currently cause of DAY TRADERS...
5, Cetek wants to expand through an Aquistion.. they have agreed in principal but are talking price NOW..
I spoke with FH, attorney and JIM and asked NOT for name of company but GENERAL time frame.. i.e 4 th Quarter, 2004, 1st Quarter 2005..
FH immediate response was 2 weeks take it wor what it worth..
6 talk of HARD numbers... FH afraid since SEC calls on numbers..
& results of 01,02,03 UNAUDITED numbers complete and will be audited shortly..
7. Cost of Formal reorting over 40K per quarter and FH thinks $$ could be spent elsewhere will discuss with SEC attorney and SEC on reported UNAUDITTED #'s..
Remember as a PINK he does NOT have to report ANYTHING so we should be happy to get the quartley shareholder update we are getting
I will be on board tomorrow to answer any other Questions
Bill
Summary or the meeting...
Much of this has been covered but will start at the top of my notes
anyway.
Sales in U.S. and overseas increasing.
We are making 30" and 40" substrates.
The 30" is currently being sold in the U.S.
The 40" is currently being sold overseas to a company that is
developing a large screen TV.
The 12" substrate is still the favorite.
They have grown CNT on their own sustrates before. And Fayiz talked
as though they have already developed the prototypes for 6", 8", and
12" CNT displays.
Glass based displays are our only real competition. They are ideal
for small displays like those in pagers, cell phones, hand held games,
calculators, and PDAs. But begin to have problems when they are put
into larger items like laptops and TVs. The problem is that the
circuitry must originate from the side of the glass. And by the time
the circuitry reaches the far extremes of the glass the image looses
brightness and contrast. To offset that problem they can either put
another circuit for the other side or lower the bright portion to
match the darker far side. The second circuit of course increases
cost. And in even larger displays it does not eliminate the problem.
Ceramic doesn't have that problem because they can drill holes in the
ceramic and originate the circuitry across the entire surface.
Cetek developed a special method of sintering their ceramic. That
special method has reduced the sintering time from 15 days to 3. Our
ovens therefore must be built special. The problem is they can cost
over $500K AND it would require Cetek to tell others their secret.
Therefore, we build our own for only $200K.
We currently have 6 ovens on line. Fayiz would not tell us how many
shelves they have or how many substrates they will hold on each tray
or total. I won't tell you the reason he gave for not telling us. I
don't want to insult your intelligence or cause you to doubt his. Let
me just say that dumb doesn't adequately characterize his answer.
I previously had assumed that they had 8 ovens. I was wrong.
We still assume from comments by JS that they have multiple shelves
and have an internal measurement of approx. 5' x 5'.
Fayiz did make the comment that there were times that they only have
one substrate on a shelf. I assume therefore that he was talking
about the 40". If that is true then IMO we can assume that that same
shelf will hold three 32" substrates each direction or 9 per shelf.
He said the the ovens are running 24/7 364 days a year. They are
turned off one day a year for maintainance.
He also told us that they have a 90 gal mixer to mix the ingredients in.
The Poughkeepsie facility is currently maxed out, and Fayiz said that
the are not making making substrates at any other location. However,
he said that they have room for 6 additional ovens and construction on
them has already begun.
They have 22 employees including Fayiz, but not including JS and RL.
But they are not always there. Since the ovens have to bake the
substrates for 3 days, there are times when the whole crew is not
needed. There is someone there 7 days a week.
The preliminary audits are finished for the years 2001, 2002, and
2003. They must now be certified.
We have entered into some kind of research partnershiip with GE to
develope fuel Cells using Cetek ceramic.
The agreement with MOT is dormant right now. According to Fayiz,
Cetek paid MOT money for their intellectual property but never
received it. They then stopped paying, and MOT subsequently cancelled
the agreement. That explains why MOT tells us that the original
contract ended because Cetek did not pay them. Fayiz says that they
are hoping to finally get the property in a few months.
But he also said that Cetek will be able to go forward with most of
there plan without them.
Fayiz played the SEC card again when trying to explain his lack of
informative PRs. I do not believe him. IMO it is more likely that
Fayiz has been submitting his PRs to Laskowski for approval. And he
has automatically rejected anything that even looks like details on
the pathetic grounds that the SEC will require proof. AS IF THE SEC
HAS EVEN A SINGLE SECOND TO MONITOR A SUB-PENNY STOCK. I donnnn't
think so.
The 500 million share buy back was actually started in December and
continued until sometime in late March. At that time, Fayiz became
concerned that the day-traders were taking advantage of the slight
increases in the share price that resulted from the buyback. This, if
you remember, resulted in more selloff and a reduction in the pps to
even lower level. Of course most of us who had money at the time,
took advantage of the low prices and bought more shares. NOT FAYIZ.
No, rather than taking advantage of the garage sale prices to finish
off the buyback and maybe even buy back more than planned, he decided
that he wasn't going to be used by the day-traders in this manner, so
he stopped the buyback all together. That kind of logic from a CEO
who has all of my money scares me. And of course none of that even
comes close to explaining why he dumped 3 billions shares onto the
market during the same time perios.
Fayiz then mentioned that he was researching the situation to
determine if there were any other ways to lower the O/S without a R/S.
He reaffirmed that we will never have another R/S. He also said that
the last one hurt him just like it hurt us. So he obviously has most
of his hopes resting on the pps of the common stock. The one thing
that he failed to mention, however, is that if he wants more shares,
all he has to do is vote to issue himself more shares as a part of his
compensation. Life is hard.
He then talked about the acquisition efforts. He said that the day
that any acquisition is finished, it will be announced in a PR.
Robert Laskowski then added that every such major change in the status
of the company has to be approved by the shareholders. He of course
failed to mention the minor detail that Fayiz controls 10 billion
votes and therefore any vote is a mere formality. And they
demonstrated clearly when they only sent notices of the shareholder
meeting to a couple of hundred people, that they are more than willing
to bend the rules. So I would not look too hard for any ballot to be
sent in the mail that would allow you to vote on the acquistition.
Laskowski clearly thinks that we are all a bunch of idiots.
Fayiz explained that the reason he doesn't tell us everything that is
going on is because everything has to be done in a certain sequence.
That of course explained everything.
He made a passing comment about overseas companies that are going to
be the manufacturing arm of the company, via contract. He also said
somehing about that being a revenue source. So it would appear that
they intend to sell franchises to overseas companies or collect
royalties from them.
One of the more interesting comments was regarding the question of why
they do not have patents. He said that everytime they change the size
or the thickness or purpose of a substrate for a customer, they
actually have to adjust the recipe and the process to accommodate the
changes. So it is impossible to state a single description that
covers them all.
That's all I have time for now. It covers all of my notes. As I
think of things that I heard but didn't jot down I will post it. I
tried to record the meeting, but they were not using a microphone, so
I couldn't pick up anything.
Overall, on a scale of 10, I give Fayiz a 4, the meeting a 3, the
quality of information a 7, Laskowski a -10. The was nothing about
that man that I liked or trust.
Others will have to fill in the gaps.
O/S 4.8B
Annual revenues: between 6M and 10M
4.8b/6m-10m: 0,0013 $ - .0021
X 10
Target price: 0,013 - .021$
NOW!