quote:Originally posted by stockvaper: From PTSC website:
Common Shares Outstanding: 252 million
Fully Diluted Shares Outstanding: Est. 398 million
If PTSC just got 10 percent of that $ 260 billion they are estimating annually that would be about $65 per fully diluted share; annually. With just a PE ratio of 5, that would set the PPS at around $ 325. That's with only 10 percent of the estimate realized folks. GLTA
Where did you get the estimated annual figure of "$ 260 Billion" .........?
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Global sales of end products deploying chips using technologies protected by the jointly owned patents are estimated to be greater than $260 billion annually. The MMP Portfolio is exclusively managed by Alliacense, a TPL Group enterprise.
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I was just trying to illustrate that a percent (any percent) of the $ 260 Billion is a large number....pick a number yourself...one percent...one half of a percent...it's still huge.
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As far as future earnings from licensing is concerned, I'm sure even PTSC doesn't know what that'll be. In their PR's they've said they're offering a 'discount' to the early signors of the licensing and it will escalate for the later ones. Who knows at this time who will sign and when??? It's a big number though no matter what.
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quote:Originally posted by Repoman75: I think the more important question is, where did you get the 10%?
That was exactly my point... $260 Billion is what the industry makes in GROSS sales, but the settlements would be MUCH lower than 10% of that... I believe the HP deal was quoted at $10 Million... and what does HP do in annual GROSS sales..? I believe the best they can hope for is UNDER $1 Billion per year in a best case scenario... and that's if they were to sign up EVERYONE.
Don't get me wrong I'm in PTSC LOOONNNGGG. I believe the stock will continue to go up... WAY UP, but don't expect a 50-60% gain after EVERY PR... expecially if they release them every few weeks. I think an end of year price of around $10.00 - $15.00 is likely.
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Bidding up again this morning... here's some speculation to chew on:
1) STI-CELL chip superior to any chip build by INTEL or AMD.
2) STI-CELL makes INTEL and AMD's chips obsolete.
3) Nintendo Revolution STI-CELL.
4) Playstation 3 STI-CELL.
5) XBOX-360 qty 4 AMD Opterons; currently in testing with STI-CELL
6) Toshiba computers STI-CELL
7) Sony computers STI-CELL
8) See no matter which chip the manufacturers use they are in patent infringement with PTSC and TPL.
9) INTEL must buy out and own the PTSC/TPL patent rights in order to control Sony, Toshiba, and IBM.
10) INTEL owes some payback on patent infringement with Intergraph in which they would also be able to control them.
11) As soon as STI boys show up, INTEL will immediately proceed with Buyout negotiations with TPL/PTSC. We are now looking at $10 to $15 per share as a buyout price. Due to the substantial billions of dollars investments already put up by both Intel and the STI boys, a bidding war is sure to follow. Each party has everything to gain by buying the ownership of the PTSC/TPL patent Portfolio. As in Monopoly.
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Interesting thoughts Repoman.... I think we'd see $ 10 by year end even without a buyout though. I ran a stock screen program this morning looking at the PPS's for companies that netted between $ 250m and $ 500m annually (which is within reach for PTSC). I didn't find a single one under $ 22. Most were between $50 - $70 PPS (and most of these companies had more O/S). I couldn't believe it. People pay a premium for very profitable companies.
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Another key is insider transactions. If the insiders do not sell any of their shares at these prices, after probably accumulating a lot in the pennies, then you know they believe (and know) that this thing is going much higher. Next week will be very interesting.
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I couldn't agree more Repoman. The process of signing up companies on licensing agreements is just in it's beginning stages. IMO the PPS will continue to climb until PTSC is receiving over $ 250m annually or it's patents are bought out. My magic 8-ball sees a target PPS of $ 10 - $ 15 this time next year.
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I bought all of mine under .20....most at .15, but all under .20. I've been holding for over 6 months and can't count the times I wanted to sell because it was going nowhere....Having the patience of dirt really paid off this time.
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Wally - possibly, but unlikely since some fool will always sell to them on the shakes...
But keep your eye on NITE and UBSS .. they are the 2 major MM's for this stock. And they refuse to sell shares.. they keep pulling their asks. They are waiting for big PPS to sell.
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True but now the shakes keep staying at higher levels. What do you see as the close today. Imagine what will happen if we get a license from Sony.
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does anyone know why we shot up 27% today, no news I can see. I'm still holding my shares long but was hoping to load up some more on a dip. I thought for sure we would see a pull back today after the surge we had last week.
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We are up 27% for the same reason we are up 100% over the last week. News is not driving this stock... it's the GUARANTEE that 150 companies are using this chip and they MUST settle eventually. That simple. Dip is NOW period. Buy now. If you wait, you will not get in and tomorrow we will be up again.
I see a close of under $2.00 . Lots of morons cashing in at these levels... let them go. When the next settlement is announced (I think it will be Texas Ins.), or the 8-Ks are released, this thing will be unbuyable below $3.
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I agree, just thought that 27% was a bit extreme for one day without news. Lets not forget that even though we have invested in a great company, it's still an OTC stock and the main driving force behind these stocks is news.
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thanks, I just added 5k shares to give me a grand total of 10k shares, nothing compared to stockvapers 25k but should pull a nice return none the less. GL all
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