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jordanreed
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let me do it!!..please?..something positive about the gop..


its a great party..they've done a wonderful job with plenty of politicians I can look up to for guidance..

a great foil for the liberal, wacko, lefties.( I guess I'm one)..

the gop provides plenty of yuks..

pms is a great example of this...look at the fodder he has provided us..an unrelenting,egotistical, nutjob...what more could ya want?...its like the freak show at the circus.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
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Originally posted by Pagan:
ROTFLMAO!! You two really are dumb and dumber. And moocow, still waiting for you to post a negative GOP article, as you previously said you post both. Not seen a single negative GOP post from you yet. Still waiting. Also, what is your economic recovery plan? You complain of the Dems of throwing money at it, that's whats needed! Couple of fools with no clue about anything.

Have you ever made anything but a negative GOP comment? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Let's face it, lock..., after what the GOP has done to the whole world over the last few decades, where is there any non-negative aspect of the GOP on which to comment?

This world is in dire straights and that was caused directly the GOP.

Your query of Pagan does bring to mind an equivalent one. Do you ever make a non-negative comment about anything political and non-republican Party sanctioned?

If you do it is very very seldom and if you have, it isn't obvious. Your negative comments about anything democratic stick out like the proverbial sore thumb, though.

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Let's face it, bdgee..., after what the socialists have done to the whole world over the last few decades, where is there any non-negative aspect of the socialists on which to comment?

This world is in dire straights and that was caused directly the socialists.

Do you ever make a non-negative comment about anything political and non-democratic Party sanctioned?

If you do it is very very seldom and if you have, it isn't obvious. Your negative comments about anything republican stick out like the proverbial sore thumb, though.

LOLOLOL!!!

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hey..knock it off!!!!!you're stealing my thread!

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Let's face it, bdgee..., after what the socialists have done to the whole world over the last few decades, where is there any non-negative aspect of the socialists on which to comment?

This world is in dire straights and that was caused directly the socialists.

Do you ever make a non-negative comment about anything political and non-democratic Party sanctioned?

If you do it is very very seldom and if you have, it isn't obvious. Your negative comments about anything republican stick out like the proverbial sore thumb, though.

LOLOLOL!!!

"Do you ever make a non-negative comment about anything political and non-democratic Party sanctioned? "

Indeed I do, but when this cadre of hate and insult that poses as today's republican party is in the picture, there is almost never anything positive to say.

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A picture is worth a 1,000 words, and in THIS case a picture is worth TRILLIONS of words!

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that is funny...

and Dubya is jealous... he was there in '02 and he blew it.

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The GOP is not a great party and most lost their conservative ways. I hope we will get a conservative party in the future..

But, the democratic party has lost its way further - it is leftist and Obama is a scam--

I did say awhile back and still find true, Obama got elected because of Bush' dissatifaction but not pro-socialism/communism.

He is slammimg this country - further in the hole because of the extreme leftist ideology--

He was so eloquent but he has not done anything concrete -
1. He let Pelosi dictate the spendulus bill - mostly pork at a time the country needded real stimulus - dont get me wrong parts are stimulus but most pork - shame on Obama - no leadership there but simply caving in to those that got him elected- mostly the extremists and the bush haters - but the bush haters didnt want socialism - i think they will wake up-- the left will wake up when obama demands all hollywood should should share the wealth to the non-working---

2. His cabinet is a joke - his treasury sec. is a crook as he is - --most folks supported hitler due to emotional pain as is the case with obama-

3. I hope america wakes up before it is destroyed by Obama - his policies are tragic - spend -spend -spend - give from the workers to the non-workers--isnt that coomunism?? Far worse than socialism? I value my credit rating but in this reality of Obama - I may default on my mortgage so i can get help. I am a struggling homeowner and yet the govt is forcing me to help others that made bad decisions? I need help - I do what I can but now what I can is BAD and and the BAD get rewarded - so survival speaks - I too will be in line for govt help --

4. The markets are speaking - Obama may collapse the market but it wont be over- there could be revolution --

Now, I say may but Obama did get elected based on fear and his leadership is fear based. Hope, I am wrong but I think folks should think twice before supporting the socialistic/communism policies of Obama. All folks in my belief will accept handouts and want them but in the end the line will get too long- You cant take from the working and give to the non-working because in the end it is collapse--

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Patience, think....CRAP!

My God, man, he hasn't been in office but barely a month a couple of hours ago!

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Well, what he has done in a month is disastrous -
like I said he is bringing the country further to socialism/communism but he didnt get elected for that. He got elected mostly because of Bush hate. And, folks need to wake upo before it is too late-- I have children and I wnat them to have an america-- Obama is not in support of america - not in my opinion -

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now that is funny!!

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No, not doing what he is would be disastrous times ten.

Get off that whine about socialism/communism. It is absurd. First of all, there is absolutely no chance this country will ever be communistic and second, socialism is a fundamental part of government of any kind, provided that government intends top be here in years to come and without which it has no purpose.....no reason to function al all. that is the definition of government, an organization to act and make laws on behalf of the people.

Get serious, he got elected to do exactly what he is doing. He did not get elected to be a right-wing conservative, which is all you will accept.

Yeah, there was plenty of Bush hate, because the Nation hated that dubya refused to get off the far right-wing road to destruction of everything we cherish about America, and that includes all that pure bull sh-t about freemarketism, first, last, and always. Bush hate is absolute disgust with a fool that was selling out the Country to right-wing hatred and freemarketism and puting the funds in OUR treasury in his political buddies pocket.

Indeed! Hopefully, people have waked up before it is too late, they ran those pushing us to fascism via republican freemarket mantra out of power.

Your opinion is in a selfish, distinct, and very small minority and has been for a good while, think....

Get with the program. without it the nation is doomed. With it there is a chance.

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The nation needs to wake up! Obama got elected mostly due to Bush' hate not a free pass for socialism/communismn.

His proposals all are socialistic/comunistic. Take from the working and give to the non-working. If any right-minded person thinks the working will support the non-working is foolish. In nature, we work to take care of us and our family and if we are compassionate, we will help others'if we can-- But, if you force me to take from my family so I can help you survive, I will fight.

I already will play the game of survival - do what it takes in OBAMA land to get handouts- my point is- in the end, america will collapse--

Does anyone think that the working will work for the non-working as in communism? Obama is mostly taking from the working and giving to the non-working in the stimulus and then taking from the working and giving to the bad choices in the housing? And taking from the working middle class and giving to the elite banks for their greed,etc?

It is wrong and Americans better wake up!

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Obama got elected mostly due to Bush' hate not a free pass for socialism/communismn.

and Bush got elected how?

i voted for Bush the first twice and Dubya once.

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Obama is mostly taking from the working and giving to the non-working in the stimulus

not true.

he is mostly trying to make sure people who want to work can find work...

i agree with you about him allowing Pelosi to write the bill, but that's the way Washington works, do you want a dictator or an emperor? that's where Cheney would have had US.

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
The nation needs to wake up! Obama got elected mostly due to Bush' hate not a free pass for socialism/communismn.

His proposals all are socialistic/comunistic. Take from the working and give to the non-working. If any right-minded person thinks the working will support the non-working is foolish. In nature, we work to take care of us and our family and if we are compassionate, we will help others'if we can-- But, if you force me to take from my family so I can help you survive, I will fight.

I already will play the game of survival - do what it takes in OBAMA land to get handouts- my point is- in the end, america will collapse--

Does anyone think that the working will work for the non-working as in communism? Obama is mostly taking from the working and giving to the non-working in the stimulus and then taking from the working and giving to the bad choices in the housing? And taking from the working middle class and giving to the elite banks for their greed,etc?

It is wrong and Americans better wake up!

I repeat. Your opinion is exactly that, an opinion. Everything you claim to be true is based on nothing more than faith in a religion like mantra that neo-conservatism is Godly and the world will be cast into the fires of hell if absolute capitalism isn't allowed to control the lives destinies of us all, individually and collectively.

I'm tired of being controlled by what you want. And I am in the majority. So take your religion of freemarketism and go off somewhere and start your own country, where you can dictate to someone there. Leave us alone.

Yes, we could fail, but it will be failure with honor and the freedom to believe in ourselves and not just to be ruled by the muckity-mucks of the financial marketplace....that's fascism you are wanting.

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"i agree with you about him allowing Pelosi to write the bill, but that's the way Washington works, do you want a dictator or an emperor? that's where Cheney would have had US."

Yes!

If you guys would read the Constitution it REQUIRES that a finance bill be originated in the House. It's the law!

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His cabinet is a joke - his treasury sec. is a crook as he is - --most folks supported hitler due to emotional pain as is the case with obama-

uh? Hitler and Obama in the same sentence, interesting... i'll have to ponder it for a second... sorry, no compute.

the Tresaury Secretary is a crook! yes, you can't find a banker in America that isn't IMO... nature of the business...

we will see some form of conservatism return TM that is the nature of US politics.. the pendulum swings back and forth and all the professional politicians know this and count on it,
however, it will not be anything like the "conservatism" we have today or have had for the last few years..

the "conservatism" we've had for the last few years is the reason we are in this mess.

i know alot of people try lay blame elsewere, but that's just politics.

the fact is? Bush started two wars and cut taxes...
that was wrong not just economically but morally.

war is painful it doesn't matter if you are in the "right" or in the "wrong" war hurts, we all know this, it's just how things are. Bush tried to make it painless for his friends.. now we all pay for the tax cuts and the "SCHEMES" Bush laid down to pay for the wars instead of playing it straight.

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Hitler came to power because folks were hurting and emotionally weak, same with Obama- he came to power because of Bush' hate and not support of socialistic/commuism policies --

Yes, I do agree conservatism will returm, probally in the next 2 years in the house but it will be different- Bush was not a conservative - he was an elected official who harmed america - my point is Obama is trying to destroy america -he wants the working to take care of the non-working-

IMO, doubt it will happem. we are close to a market collapse - and this is Obama's doing -

americans still want to be free not chained by big govt --

Today, Obama rushed after closing bell to say, no nationaliztion - he had to cause market is not buying to his rehetoric as many americans have- if market crashes - it is only BIG govt- then revolution-

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Today, Obama rushed after closing bell to say, no nationaliztion


BTW? they made the announcement well before the closing bell...

and it was to dispell rumors, how many rumors have you heard on the stock market?

Natioanalization of banks happens all the time. That's when they fail. The govt takes over, the shareholders are cut out, and your deposits are garanteed..

the people that run the markets made this mess. they are shaking this thing for all it's worht to get prices as low as they can.

fear and greed, it's always fear and greed...

IMO, doubt it will happem. we are close to a market collapse - and this is Obama's doing -


sorry TM that's really off the mark. we have been on the verge of collapse for months and the "conservatives" are the ones that did it then and if anybody is tanking it now? it's the conservatives who have a vested interest in seeing Obama fail...

if it "failed" tomorrow and you blamed Obam? that would be no different from blaming Bush for Clintons recession..

heck, i remember people blaming Clinton for 9-11 and that was 8 months after Bush took office..


if we fail and that is WE as a nation? it will be because the people are losers. not because of Bush or Obama.. are we losers?

Bush was not a real conservative? I spoke up and said that right here in 2004 and the "conservatives" called me a liar.

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Glass- do you like Obamas' spend and spend?

I dont understand why you defend the socialist, maybe communist- Take from the working and give to non-working or take from ability and give to need- same thing---

Bus harmed this country but Obama may destroy it - why are ya so pro obama?

Your neighbor has 4 bedrooms, an extra bathroom, took an arm and now he asks ya to pay for it? you who work and are struggling?

I am sorry but that is not my america---

The markets didnt crash under BUSH but they may under Obama ---Bush messed us up but Obama promised change - now, we have change - NOT change most americans want- and day by day more and more will revolt--

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Glass- do you like all o Obams' spend and spend?

I dont understand why you defen the socialist, maybe communist- Take from the working and give to non-working or take from ability and give to need- same thing---

Bus harmed this country but Obama may destroy it - why are ya so pro obama?

Your neighbor has 4 bedrooms, an extra bathroom, took an arm and now he asks ya to pay for it? you who work and are struggling?

I am sorry but that is not my america---

no, your america is where Haliburton gets a blank check to poison and electrocute our troops.

it's not a matter of supporting Obama or not.

and you are making it clear that you'd rather America fall apart and have revolution than do what we have to toget out of this mess we are in.


guess what? i'm ready for either. and i know how to rock-n-roll..

most of the wimps out there calling for a revolution are thesame people who were telling people to move to Canada after Bush won in '04...

don't just talk about this crap. do it. talk is cheap. and i'm tired of the whining

just keep in mind that after revolutions? the meansest nastiest SOB is in charge, it won't be Rush Limbugger, it'll be a General, probably one that has Special Forces training form day one.

there'll be no "democracy" it would be like Russia is right now.

you won't like it.

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I want to get out of this mess but what Obama is doing is pushing this country towards collapse --

And, more and more americans will see that and will not permit it- I hope --sorry but our country is based on freedom and I want my children to have freedom vs living in a socialistic, state controlled america--

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well the damage was done long before this month.

you want a different political leader? recruit one that can get elected.

i expect Obama will screw up sooner or later, but so far? this ain't the kinda screwup i'm talking about

and it is definitley not Palin or Boehner...

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when somebody gets cancer? they give them chemotherapy..

chemo is poison. it is controlled in it's dosage, but it is still poison.

think of this like that and pray.

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Better get used to it, think..., because what has happened in the last couple of elections, particularly with Obama, has already begun a systematic alteration of our whole outlook on what politics is for in our part of the world and, if the idiots yanking on the republican leash and wanting them to re-Reagan America don't learn to think beyond what they have done for the last 30 - 40 years, society won't be pleased at all and the republican party will die sooner rather than later.

Party leadership in the republican party is embarrassing and distasteful, because what that leadership is insisting on is their standard for years, STAY THE COURSE, when the people have learned that the course the republicans steered us on was disaster.

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bdgee you are sooo sure the Republican Party will die...please. The Democratic part is destroying itself. Pork laden spending on a level never seen before. ANOTHER stimulus being talked about, the 275 BILLION dollar mortgage bailout AFTER the stimulus was passed...the Democrats are on a spending high.

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quote:
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bdgee you are sooo sure the Republican Party will die...please. The Democratic part is destroying itself. Pork laden spending on a level never seen before. ANOTHER stimulus being talked about, the 275 BILLION dollar mortgage bailout AFTER the stimulus was passed...the Democrats are on a spending high.

Young man,

Straighten up, and take a deep breath. You need to compose yourself. Nobody worth listening to is saying the Democratic Party is a saviour.

But you simply *must* realize for your own sanity check that Bush & Company highjacked the GOP, and the party is beyond reeling and is laying out on the floor, waiting on the paddles to find an EKG line.

If you continue on the squirrelnut juice, you are going to hyperventilate and maybe burst a blood vessel...

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It just may be that two or three have already gone pop up there between the ears.

Temper, temper, temper, cow.
Calm down, now....a deep breath or two.....

You need to wean off that right-wing talk radio stuff and get on a diet of solid and factual information and you'll fell better.

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This is a democracy and there are other, possibly, better cures for cancer other than chemo. Actually, in cancer nutrition is a better rememdy. Eat healthy and eliminate foods that are cancerous---You can even reverse/destroy cancer by eating healthy and having healthy lifestyle.

I think there are better solutions to the current mess. i.e. I dont think the GOVT should be the judge who gets money and who doesnt regarding housing and force all taxpayers to pay. I think a better idea would to to have something across the board for all homeowners, ie. 40 yr, 4 % morgage for all, etc...

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quote:
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This is a democracy and there are other, possibly, better cures for cancer other than chemo. Actually, in cancer nutrition is a better rememdy. Eat healthy and eliminate foods that are cancerous---You can even reverse/destroy cancer by eating healthy and having healthy lifestyle.

I think there are better solutions to the current mess. i.e. I dont think the GOVT should be the judge who gets money and who doesnt regarding housing and force all taxpayers to pay. I think a better idea would to to have something across the board for all homeowners, ie. 40 yr, 4 % morgage for all, etc...

well, you're part of the gummint--run that idea up the flagpole...

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Party leadership in the republican party is embarrassing and distasteful, because what that leadership is insisting on is their standard for years, STAY THE COURSE, when the people have learned that the course the republicans steered us on was disaster.
Ironically, I agree with that 100%! The Republican party is a joke and should be dismantled. They have NO principles and will do anything to get elected. They've moved farther left than the democrats were only a few years ago. Bdgee is right, they are an embarrassment and have destroyed the party.

I am grateful that the democrats are in charge of the entire government. This way, they will receive all the credit if they turn things around and all the blame if the country collapses. The problem for the democrats (socialists) is that this wreckless spending ($10.8 trillion committed so far) is accelerating the date of our destruction. None of the things we have experienced so far (subprime, banking problems, etc) are even a fraction of the real problem, which is that we've promised more money in entitlements than we can deliver. Borrowing trillions more is only making things worse - A LOT WORSE!

The party is over and I'm hoping that a conservative movement will rise from the ashes to put this country on the right path.

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PM: all you seem to harp on is entitlements. Social Security and Medicare would be fine if it weren't for the fact that they were raided by both parties. The real reason we are in the dire straits we are in, is that the free market was let to go untethered and greed took over.

I don't think anyone really knows how to fix it. Your solution of letting the markets fail and rebuilding isn't any better than throwing money at the problem. Yet something has to be done. It's going to be trial and error until something works or doesn't.

The real need is for these elected officials to begin doing what they should have been doing all along and that is to do what is best for the COUNTRY not them individually to get re-elected or hold party lines.

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PM: all you seem to harp on is entitlements.
That's because excess spending, especially entitlement spending, is the problem.

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I don't think anyone really knows how to fix it. Your solution of letting the markets fail and rebuilding isn't any better than throwing money at the problem. Yet something has to be done. It's going to be trial and error until something works or doesn't.
Actually, my solution IS a lot better, because it doesn't saddle us with trillions of dollars of additional debt that must be repaid (one way or the other). That makes my solution a lot less painful than the spend-a-thon alternative.
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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
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Party leadership in the republican party is embarrassing and distasteful, because what that leadership is insisting on is their standard for years, STAY THE COURSE, when the people have learned that the course the republicans steered us on was disaster.
Ironically, I agree with that 100%! The Republican party is a joke and should be dismantled. They have NO principles and will do anything to get elected. They've moved farther left than the democrats were only a few years ago. Bdgee is right, they are an embarrassment and have destroyed the party.

I am grateful that the democrats are in charge of the entire government. This way, they will receive all the credit if they turn things around and all the blame if the country collapses. The problem for the democrats (socialists) is that this wreckless spending ($10.8 trillion committed so far) is accelerating the date of our destruction. None of the things we have experienced so far (subprime, banking problems, etc) are even a fraction of the real problem, which is that we've promised more money in entitlements than we can deliver. Borrowing trillions more is only making things worse - A LOT WORSE!

The party is over and I'm hoping that a conservative movement will rise from the ashes to put this country on the right path.

"I agree with that 100%!"

My God, I must have bungled up the language something fierce!

"The party is over and I'm hoping that a conservative movement will rise from the ashes to put this country on the right path."

That being the case, one thing is for certain. Those in charge of that movement will distance themselves from you and all the rest of the embarrassing mindless extremist and religious fanatics that have left them a laughing stock over the world by marching to the piping of Fat Rush's flute and to the chorus of the rest of his far right-wing obstructionist Party first ilk. The whole world is ashamed yaw'll can't at least act civil and honorably.

[ February 21, 2009, 09:59: Message edited by: bdgee ]

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