quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I am more worried about the kind of people who are cultishly attracted to Obama than Obama himself.
Just look at how people on this board react to anything that questions some of his actions.
If you don't have a mirror, try finding a still pool of water and say that while looking at yourself therein, when anyone doesn't heap abundant and ridiculous uncalled for praise on Palin or McCain.
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No, no, Mach, he has established quite conclusively that he is totally devoted to barking out RNC propaganda, making like a a one trick pony at the county fair and running the wrong way on a one way road.
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Yeah? I do appreciate that you enjoy the comedy I try to include. I do put out effort to that end.
And that you would put forth the effort to follow it, means that, hopefully and eventually, you will also begin to recognize the informative political aspects also.
It probably won't happen overnight, so be patient. It takes more than luck and wishing to go from nowhere to somewhere and the trip from republican parrot to rationality is a far far longer journey.
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Anyone whos long-time spiritual mentor and pastor turns out to be a rabid, racist, America-hater who claims the U.S. invented AIDS to wipe out black people is questionable in my mind.
"Not God bless, but 'God d--- America!'" -Jeremiah Wright
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Bdgee, obama says what you want to hear. baaaaa baaaaa
I am not voting for a liberal who will surround himself with gun grabbing loonies
No, you have made it clear that you want only republican destruction of the Constitution directed toward installing a Nazi styled fascism and will always vote accordingly.
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Hey, whatever bush did I dont like. I dislike bush, but know this...he is not a true conservative. He is just following in his fathers footsteps and has someone else telling him what to do.
McCain isnt one either. However I believe in the issues the republican party defends.
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Yes, he has someone else telling him what to do....the republican party!
It must be clear to anyone that bothers that dubya is too stupid to have done this alone. He is only following the republican mantra. This mess belongs squarely placed at the feet of the republican party and nowhere else.
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Any candidate that has a poster of che in their campaign office is someone to worry about. I doubt McCain would ever let such filth be wall posted.
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I read an article about a month back by a female republican adviser that said that "Catcher in the Rye" is on their list of "subversive literature".
Seems like they want it removed from school (both high school and college) reading list, because it "lures" kids into antisocial thinking.
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We'll they tried years ago to censor it and such but eventually they failed... here from Wiki:
"In 1960, a teacher was fired, and later reinstated, for assigning the novel in class.[17] Between 1961 and 1982, The Catcher in the Rye was the most censored book in high schools and libraries in the United States.[18] In 1981, it was both the most censored book and the second most taught book in public schools in the United States.[19] According to the American Library Association, The Catcher in the Rye was the 13th most frequently challenged book from 1990–2000.[1] It was one of the 10 most challenged books in 2005, and came off the list in 2006.[20]
The challenges generally begin with vulgar language, citing the novel's use of words like f*ck[21] and "goddam",[22] with more general reasons including sexual references,[23] blasphemy, undermining of family values[22] and moral codes,[24] Holden's being a poor role model,[25] encouragement of rebellion,[26] and promotion of drinking, smoking, lying, and promiscuity.[24] Often, the challengers have been unfamiliar with the plot itself.[18] Shelley Keller-Gage, a high school teacher who faced objections after assigning the novel in her class, noted that the challengers "are being just like Holden ... They are trying to be catchers in the rye."[22] A reverse effect has been that this incident caused people to put themselves on the waiting list to borrow the novel, when there were none before.[27]"
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If I remember correctly, the librarian (or someone else involved) that Palin tried to get to censor books mentioned "Catcher in the Rye" as one Palin didn't approve of. (She later fired that librarian after the librarian rejected her efforts.)
It sort of sounds like Palin was only trying to pass on and use the power of her office to instill standard republican mantra, which surely seems to be standard republican activity, because we have so many examples of it.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I am more worried about the kind of people who are cultishly attracted to Obama than Obama himself.
Just look at how people on this board react to anything that questions some of his actions.
I would assume you have me in the afore mentioned category CCM. When people stop lying about Obama's agenda then we can have a reasoned debate.
Did you see my note on the other thread that there is no proposed gun and ammo tax on the Obama tax plan? Yet another lie that you have been sold because his opponents know his dislike for guns does not resonate with many conservatives.
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Since this has turned into the new bashing thread....
Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have brought down Wall Street.
Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, " Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that "mistakes were made" and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years." Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.
Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear. http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ .. The Government noted, "The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner." These c harges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, "Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,"
On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.
Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currentl y under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor
TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee
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I had no idea that Jackson had ever tried to segregate this country. And I don't think anyone that claims so honestly is remotely rational. Maybe you should see someone about that problem?
I think you are dreaming up trash. This country is decidedly less segregated than it was years ago, with much thanks going to Jackson and absolutely none due to the republicans, who depend on and have essentially placed all of their weight behind fostering racial bigotry to hold and gain power.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: I had no idea that Jackson had ever tried to segregate this country. And I don't think anyone that claims so honestly is remotely rational. Maybe you should see someone about that problem?
I think you are dreaming up trash. This country is decidedly less segregated than it was years ago, with much thanks going to Jackson and absolutely none due to the republicans, who depend on and have essentially placed all of their weight behind fostering racial bigotry to hold and gain power.
Shows your complete lack of understanding of how the 2 reverends have done more to segregate their own than any other two people in the history of the U.S.
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