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The rules are already in the books PM. No monopolies. Pharmaceutical companies PAY each other and your Pharmacist to keep prices in line with each other to be non-competitive. That constitutes a monopoly though it is brokered by agreement between multiple companies. Most generics costs could be lowered by 200% and still make more profit than the commercial average.
What you say regarding productive citizens and slackers sounds great on paper. But Black and White doesn't work in the real world. The melting pot does not allow for the mono-culture conformity required for that one sentence answer work. A hand MUST be extended at all times for the "slacker" or son/daughter of a "slacker" who is ready to take a step up in responsibility. Otherwise we have a caste system where the sins of the father are revisited upon the son.
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I'm talking about people who receive $600 or $700 per month on welfare and have their housing paid by the taxpayers in the form of section 8. I'm talking about the guy working at Walmart for $7 or $8 per hour.
point made. do the math. cable TV and cell phone? how much is that?
why should somebody have a job and get welfare?
cuz that's what's going on...
the jobs they have are actually subsidized by all of US.. and Wal Mart pockets the "profit" from our subsidy...
does that add up for you?
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quote: _________________________________________________ Originally quoted by Propertymanager:
Even the people who live under bridges are not poor. Most of them are getting their government check, however they are just choosing to buy crack or meth with it instead of spending that money on rent or food. _________________________________________________
Sounds like you spend a lot of time under bridges.
Maybe it is the old supply and demand theory. Just not enough demand for the quality of housing that some are supplying.
Reading some of your posts makes me think of a lawyer or doctor standing on a corner waiting for a accident to happen so they can get their next customer.(Or victim depending how you look at it)
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quote:Maybe it is the old supply and demand theory.
You got that right. It's definitely a supply and demand issue. Not enough government money to pay for the supply of crack they need. That leaves them homeless.
It is not those big 'evil' companies like WalMart that are destroying our country, it's the loss of personal responsibility.
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well then maybe we should just cut out the middlemen and either give the poor people all the crack they can smoke, in which case? we won't have to be doing that for very long cuz crack kills people fairly fast...
or pay the crack dealers to not deal crack?
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then you'll complain about having to pay for their food and cable there too...
you'd be amazed at how many cars i repoed with enough drugs in them to pay the bills..
if i turned it into the police? the cops seize the car and the banks is mad at me.
if i steal the dope? the dealers handlers want me dead.
if give the drugs back? the bank gets paid i get paid and, well, you get the picture..
the best thing was to never find the damn dope. so i didn't look for it.
the real truth is that for every two to five crack dealers on the street? there's some fat cat up in Telluride or Palm Beach sittin' on his azz collecting the real$$$
and those guys are lobbyists.
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quote:then you'll complain about having to pay for their food and cable there too...
No, you wouldn't hear a peep from me about paying for prisons. However, I am certainly not happy about providing criminals with TV or any other entertainment.
quote:you'd be amazed at how many cars i repoed with enough drugs in them to pay the bills..
No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Deadbeats are often druggies and criminals.
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Hi guys most prisons don't have cable to the general population.
They almost all have standard antenna t.v. in a clear plastic case so nothing can be hidden in it.
Yes it does help and keeps a lot of peace after all the reason for a prison is to keep harmful people out of society. It not ment to be a place of extreme punishment and cruelity for 10 years or what ever of a persons life.
Prison is cruel enough and at this point the way it is run is causing almost more harm than good.
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Were your parents or are they low income property owners or managers, Propertymanager?
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Not working? Not hardly. I worked today - shoveling snow at the apartment buildings and a quick check of the rat's nest for druggies.
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It isn't what you do that is bad.(own low income housing, propertymanager) It's what you promote.
Everything you say leads to the same door.
You keep packing a weapon and working around low income people with the attitude you have towards them and you will most likely end up behind bars some day. What a shame.
If i was you i would find a different profession. But then again i am not you.
Aren't you worried that a lawyer will some day use your prejudice against the low income and homeless to file a suit against you? Especially considering the type of business you are in. You do not seem to try an hide it in any way-- at least not on this board. Or do you think you are hiding it?
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quote:Aren't you worried that a lawyer will some day use your prejudice against the low income and homeless to file a suit against you?
I am not prejudice against low income people (you've been reading bdgee's 3rd grade nonsense again). I have a bunch of low income tenants and have gotten many complements from the city for providing safe, clean housing. In addition, you are confusing my normal tenants with the drug dealers, druggies, and deadbeats that we inherit when we take over a property. You would be correct in saying that I don't like drug dealers, druggies, and deadbeats. Once we've kicked out these losers, we thoroughly screen applicants to get good tenants. Even conssidering the inherited tenants from buildings we take over, we only have an eviction rate of about 1% per month.
As for being sued, that is a normal part of the business. However, I am not in the least concerned about being sued because I don't like drug dealers, drug addicts, deadbeats, and criminals. These are not protected classes and we can (and MUST) discriminate against them all day long with the city's blessing. In fact, if you were reading the Billary thread, you would see that the city forces landlords to discriminate against these people or receive stiff fines.
I completely understand why you have a different view of the world. I'm guessing that you are a normal middle class person who has lived a normal life. When people tell you something, you can believe it. Most people you deal with are probably hard working, honest people.
I was the same way before I got in this business and still am when dealing with normal, middle class people. However, after dealing for several years on a daily basis with liers, deadbeats, criminals, and druggies, I have a much different perspective on these people. You naively think that these people are victims. I see the reality of the situation because I deal with them every day. They are NOT victims. They are liars, criminals, druggies, and in many cases, pure evil. About 95% of the applicants I talk to on a daily basis have either been evicted (are deadbeats) or are criminals. That is a FACT.
I certainly wouldn't get into another business. I like my business. It is very rewarding to change a street from a drug infested nightmare to a clean, safe place for people to live. I have done this on several streets and feel very good about it.
quote:You keep packing a weapon and working around low income people with the attitude you have towards them and you will most likely end up behind bars some day.
I do not "pack" a weapon. I am not a thug! I do have a concealed carry permit and carry a handgun for protection, because I deal with a lot of dangerous people. However, this is NOT a TV show. I am very careful when working around dangerous people and would take ANY STEP to avoid a confrontation. I have never had my handgun out of its holster and hope I never do!
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I guess i used the wrong word for carrying a handgun. Not really into them and the proper language. But the end result will be the same, if you got my point-- i have sure gotten yours.
When you lump people together like you have done throughout your posts it only reads one way. I don't think your fooling anyone but yourself, sure not many if any on this board.
So the only time you deal with people and treat them with respect is when they are middle class and above. Your point is well made and mine too.
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quote:So the only time you deal with people and treat them with respect is when they are middle class and above. Your point is well made and mine too.
I think this is a fundamental difference between the right and left. I believe that respect is EARNED, not bestowed simply because a person is breathing. Someone that is a criminal, a deadbeat, or a drug dealer has not earned any respect and I don't give them any. Respect has NOTHING to do with income. I have GREAT RESPECT for someone that is working 2 jobs at minimum wage to provide a living for their family! I have NO RESPECT for an able bodied person who sits on their butt, collecting welfare because they are lazy!
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I completely understand why you have a different view of the world. I'm guessing that you are a normal middle class person who has lived a normal life. When people tell you something, you can believe it. Most people you deal with are probably hard working, honest people.
I was the same way before I got in this business and still am when dealing with normal, middle class people. However, after dealing for several years on a daily basis with liers, deadbeats, criminals, and druggies, I have a much different perspective on these people. You naively think that these people are victims. I see the reality of the situation because I deal with them every day. They are NOT victims. They are liars, criminals, druggies, and in many cases, pure evil. About 95% of the applicants I talk to on a daily basis have either been evicted (are deadbeats) or are criminals. That is a FACT.
nobody is pure evil, just as you (nor anyone else) is pure good...
hence my suggestions to you that yo might be happier in another business too...
i also repeat my earlier statements about you doing business regularly with those drug dealers "bosses" that you aren't aware of and probably even respect. they DO live in Telluride and Palm beach, they are presidents of Frat houses, and bankers...
the street urchins you deal with are the dregs of humanity and will most likely always be trouble unless thay are reformed in some way...
you told me you don't believe in karma when i 'splained about repo work... maybe you think of Karma as some invisible unknown force, it's not, it is very real and the reality is some always rubs off from the people you associate with...
check out this study conducted at Stanford... it had to be ended early because the upper middle class, highly privileged (to get into Stanford)students involved began behaving like animals very quickly... Our planned two-week investigation into the psychology of prison life had to be ended prematurely after only six days because of what the situation was doing to the college students who participated. In only a few days, our guards became sadistic and our prisoners became depressed and showed signs of extreme stress.
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You are trying to justify everything you are doing, not uncommon. Take you money and run. Life is way to short to feel the way you do no matter what the rational is for it.
Sounds like you are way to young to become this bitter.
Many of those people you are talking about are veterans and many have their problems. Some do not want a roof to live under bacause sometimes those walls close in. But they do deserve respect and help just like many non veteran families.
You underestimate where i have been what i have done and whom i have dealt with.
I understand what you are saying and not everyone is good but i try and look beyond a few people in a particular group and look at them one person at a time.
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I believe that respect is EARNED, not bestowed simply because a person is breathing.
i had that attitude too for a long long time...
i adjusted myself to grant a large amount of respect to people right off... and then add or deduct as experience dictates...
how do you allow someeone to earn respect if you start off with none for them... you'll find they tend to do the same to you as well...
i was at Morgan Freemans club this past weekend. i saw a young African American bouncer/cover charge collector working at a low wage pick up a 20$ off the floor unnoticed by anyone except me, and he didn't know i saw him cuz i was shooting pool and i have this way of watching everything around me anyway even when it doesn't seem like it...
he found the last guy that came in the door, an old white guy half lit already and asked him if he lost some money. the guy counted his roll and said he lost twenty. the security guard gave it to him.
noone else was the wiser.
i made sure to let the owner know what his guy did.
that's how Karma really works.
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quote:i also repeat my earlier statements about you doing business regularly with those drug dealers "bosses" that you aren't aware of and probably even respect. they DO live in Telluride and Palm beach, they are presidents of Frat houses, and bankers...
I don't even know what you're talking about here. So you think my local Ohio bank president is a drug kingpin? I think you've been watching too much TV.
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quote:you are naive... all drug money has to be laundered.
So, are you saying that my local Ohio Bank president is a drug kingpin? That's a little paranoid, isn't it?
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prison is full of high wage earners and men of degree that had a lot of what you folks call respect.
Greed got the better of them and guess where they are staying now .
For the most part respect is something you say about some one when there is nothing eles to say about them that is good
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quote:what kind of game do you think are you playing here? it's foolish to assume others are naive.
I think you're playing bdgee's word games. This IS the problem with our country today. The lefties have successfully blurred the line between right from wrong; between good and evil; between reality and some eutopian fantasy.
There is right and wrong. There is good and evil. Criminals are not victims. Drug dealers are not victims. The millions of lazy people in our country are not victims. The vast majority of people who took out loans with introductory gimmick rates are not victims. Big companies are not evil and are not making excessive profits.
To be so confused that you think my local banker is a drug kingpin is preposterous. Is there a bank president anywhere that is involved in laundering money? Yes. Are the majority of bankers criminals - absolutely not.
You guys are losing touch with reality.
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To be so confused that you think my local banker is a drug kingpin is preposterous.
show me where i said that first.
this is the problem with the "so-called right" today. they are stupid idiots who think they are smart because they can read and use words with four syllables..
they aren't even smart enough to seek wisdom.
i am a true conservative. i don't suffer fools for very long, but i do pity them, unlike the "so-called right" who beleive they weild the sword of righteousness.
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that's a junior high school debating technique. by High school? you should be beyond misquoting other people and actually learning how to move the debate back into more familiar territory.
i said there are dope dealers at all strata of society. there has to be for it to b this prevalent. and all drug money MUST be laundered. i m not naming names.
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