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34 youths among 56 dead in Israeli strike

By KATHY GANNON, Associated Press Writer
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QANA, Lebanon - Israeli missiles hit several buildings in a southern Lebanon village as people slept Sunday, killing at least 56, most of them children, in the deadliest attack in 19 days of fighting. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed "great sorrow" for the airstrikes but blamed Hezbollah guerrillas for using the area to launch rockets at Israel. Olmert told U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza that he needed 10 days to two weeks to finish offensive in Lebanon, according to a senior Israeli government official.

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"We want this to stop!" shouted Mohammed Ismail, a middle-aged man pulling away at the rubble in search for bodies, his brown pants covered in dust. "May God have mercy on the children. They came here to escape the fighting."

"They are hitting children to bring the fighters to their knees," he said

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French President Jacques Chirac's office said "France condemns this unjustifiable action, which shows more than ever the need to move toward an immediate cease-fire."

Jordan's King Abdullah II condemned "the ugly crime perpetrated by Israeli forces in Qana."

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Corpses pulled from rubble in Qana

By Hussein Saad

QANA, Lebanon (Reuters) - Rescue workers placed the body of a girl on the ground and ran to search for more. They heaved hunks of concrete off a dead child caked in dust.

The rigid corpse of a young boy, his bloody face disfigured, lay near a pulverized building.

Hours later, rescuers were still clambering over rubble using their hands to pull the bodies of men, women and children from buildings destroyed by an Israeli air strike on the southern Lebanese village of Qana on Sunday.

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I guess you just conveniently left out this part of your news article.

Israeli said it targeted Qana because it was a base for hundreds of rockets launched at Israeli, including 40 that injured five Israelis on Sunday. Israel said it had warned civilians several days before to leave the village.

"One must understand the Hezbollah is using their own civilian population as human shields," said Israeli Foreign Ministry official Gideon Meir. "The Israeli defense forces dropped leaflets and warned the civilian population to leave the place because the Hezbollah turned it into a war zone."

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"Why have they attacked one- and two-year-old children and defenseless women? What have they done wrong?" asked Mohamed Samai, whose relatives were among the dead.

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"This is not only Israel's fault, this is the fault of America and the Arab states that backed Israel's attack. If the Israelis want to attack let them fight the resistance face-to-face," said Samai, before collapsing.

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quote:
Originally posted by NaturalResources:
"Why have they attacked one- and two-year-old children and defenseless women? What have they done wrong?" asked Mohamed Samai, whose relatives were among the dead.

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"This is not only Israel's fault, this is the fault of America and the Arab states that backed Israel's attack. If the Israelis want to attack let them fight the resistance face-to-face," said Samai, before collapsing.

So how do you fight someone face to face if they are hiding behind and attacking you from behind a human shield of civilians? This is very sad but..
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Obviously the deaths caused to innocent civilians in Israel over the years by terrorists with car bombs and homicide bombers have no significance to you.

So... let's see... how about all the innocent civilians in the WTC? Or all over Europe in train stations, restaurants, and such?

Any of this ring a bell?

And, I'm quite sure that the Israelis were not targeting woman and children. If you can read, which obviously you are selective about, you'd see and be cognizant of the fact that the terrorists use their own innocent woman and children as shields to protect their brave selves.

By the way, did they send flyers to the thousands of American ppl before they crashed in the WTC?

I am certain that if Israel was not concerned about civilian lives, this could have been accomplished much quicker. And why should Israel have to fight face-to-face when the enemy is not? If I recall they are firing bombs into Israel's civilian population. Oh, but I forgot, Israeli lives are inconsequential.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sunnyside:
I guess you just conveniently left out this part of your news article.

Israeli said it targeted Qana because it was a base for hundreds of rockets launched at Israeli, including 40 that injured five Israelis on Sunday. Israel said it had warned civilians several days before to leave the village.

"One must understand the Hezbollah is using their own civilian population as human shields," said Israeli Foreign Ministry official Gideon Meir. "The Israeli defense forces dropped leaflets and warned the civilian population to leave the place because the Hezbollah turned it into a war zone."

Actually, I intentionally left that part out, but not for the reason you suspect....

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quote:
Originally posted by Leo:
So how do you fight someone face to face if they are hiding behind and attacking you from behind a human shield of civilians? This is very sad but..

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Funny way to make a point. But point well made.
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What is Hezbollah and what are its goals?

The core of the Hezbollah organization (also spelled Hizballah, Hezbullah and other variants, meaning 'Party of God') in Lebanon comes from 'Iranian Revolutionary Guards' sent to Lebanon in 1982, at the time of Israel's invasion of Southern Lebanaon designed to oust the PLO. They went to assist in the establishment of a revolutionary Islamic movement whose members would participate in the 'Jihad', Holy War, against Israel from bases in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley. Inspired by the success of the Iranian Revolution and establishment of an Islamic Republic in Iran, Hezbollah also dreamt of transforming Lebanon's multi-religion state into an Iranian-style Islamic state. Its ideology, as expressed in declarations by its leadership, maintained that Israel had no legitimacy as a state, and that it must be fought until Jerusalem, meaning all of Israel, is liberated.

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quote:
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And, I'm quite sure that the Israelis were not targeting woman and children. If you can read, which obviously you are selective about, you'd see and be cognizant of the fact that the terrorists use their own innocent woman and children as shields to protect their brave selves.

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I agree. No one in the right of mind would intentionally target woman and children. I do not believe Isreal did this intentionally.

However, certain other ideologies call for a maximization of collateral damage and civilian casualties. They glorify the idea of suicide, even among children, as a means to inflict damage to the "infidel" population and intentionally kill civilians.

"Palestinian 15 years old suicide bomber"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VwijDBpxmYg&mode=related&search=


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all Hezbolah had to was was put a real or a dummy rocket and launcher on the building where they had already put children....

quit crying people...


war is hell....

hezbolah and iran have already declared war! take them seriously

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Israel just now released video showing the rocket launcher being parked in the building....

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This is exactly what Iran wants..
They desperately want to make Israel look like genocidal fanatics..

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They're doing fine on their own.

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Gordo...

i agree with you on a lot of things...

like the war in iraq was based on lies etc....

BUT?

Iran is asking, no, DEMANDING that we take them out...

i think we should oblige them....

they think we can't afford to because of the world oil market...

i suggest you put some more of your portfiolio in gold

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By all means, take out Iran's government. A great ideology.

My concern is only for the thousands of innocent people that will die at our hands when we do.

Agreed: Most of my portfolio is in PMs now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
By all means, take out Iran's government. A great ideology.

My concern is only for the thousands of innocent people that will die at our hands when we do.

Agreed: Most of my portfolio is in PMs now.

Ok Gordon, so should we wait until they try to take us out first? Or Israel? When is someone supposed to step in and shut this down? Or are they permitted to strike out against any and all with no retaliation?

Do you realize that Hezbolah has killed more Americans than any terrorist organization? And you don't think they're supported by their own arab nations?

Its nice to be idealistic while sitting in American comfortably watching TV, but this is what is actually happening. NOW. Not some vague theoretically event.

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Do you realize that car accidents have killed more Americans than any terrorist organization?

Perspective, people.

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Originally posted by Sunnyside:
Do you realize that Hezbolah has killed more Americans than any terrorist organization? And you don't think they're supported by their own arab nations?

Its nice to be idealistic while sitting in American comfortably watching TV, but this is what is actually happening. NOW. Not some vague theoretically event.



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Yes, Gordon, you need some perspective.
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gordon, you are defending terrorists...

what's up with that?

they led the Israelis bomb right to those kids...

not vice versa...

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If you're truly interested in saving Americans from death, we should outlaw the automobile. That would save millions more lives than the "War on Terror" ever will.

P.S. I always get a chuckle out of that name, "War on Terror." It's like "No Child Left Behind."

LOL

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No I'm not defendng terrorists. I'm saying it's not worth blowing up innocent children to get them.

Or, as the terrorists would say, "kill all you want, we'll make more."

At the very least it's terrible PR.


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Originally posted by glassman:
gordon, you are defending terrorists...

what's up with that?

they led the Israelis bomb right to those kids...

not vice versa...



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But Gordon we're not arguing about the safety of automobiles, we're watching a terrorist organization gone wild with the ideology of killing all of us.

What are you talking about? Sounds like a case of altered mental status again.

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And we have the ideology of killing all of them. (Yeah, this is gonna work. LOL)

Sounds like a case of Fox News saturation to me. Try another channel.

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do you think the israelis knew the kids were there?

the terrosits did.

you are being "spun" by the other side now...

i agree about the "we'll make more" statement this has to stop...

how many rockets has hezbolah shot rondomly into Israel in the last year? over a thousand....

that's BEFORE this current situation started


you think you can "reason" with Ahmadinejad???

he's nuts... worse than Bush

July 25, 2006, 11:44AM
Iran president warns of spreading violence

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

DUSHANBE, Tajikistan — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Tuesday that the conflict between Lebanon and Israel could trigger "a hurricane" of broader fighting in the Middle East.


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Like which one? Crescent News Network?
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I like to think I'm not "spun" by anyone. I think the intent here is only to escalate the conflict.

I'm against that.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
do you think the israelis knew the kids were there?

the terrosits did.

you are being "spun" by the other side now...

i agree about the we'll make more...

how many rockets has hezbolah shot rondomly into Israel in the last year?
adn that's BEFORE this curent situation started
over a thousand....


yuo think you can "reason" with Ahmadinejad???

he's nuts... worse than Bush

July 25, 2006, 11:44AM
Iran president warns of spreading violence

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

DUSHANBE, Tajikistan — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Tuesday that the conflict between Lebanon and Israel could trigger "a hurricane" of broader fighting in the Middle East.



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Ahmadinejad just wants a cease fire so they can re-supply hezbolah...

with MORE rockets...

sheeyit man....

they can't stand up to US..

they want to have never ending terrorismn so they can continue to get 70$ or more for their main export: oil...
its business...

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Try browsing. It's that up/down arrow thingy on your remote. [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Sunnyside:
Like which one? Crescent News Network?



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And Israel will just go on a picnic, right?

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Ahmadinejad just wants a cease fire so they can re-supply hezbolah...

with MORE rockets...

sheeyit man....



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Gee, where's Meir Kahane when you need him? [Big Grin]
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Gunned down, I assume. [Big Grin]

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